[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman in two servers

2021-11-01 Thread Mark Sapiro

On 11/1/21 11:33 AM, Ivan Tejeiro Izquierdo wrote:

Hi,
Is it possible to run mailman on 2 servers at the same time? What directories 
should be shared between both servers and how to configure the mm_cfg.py?



See the FAQ article at https://wiki.list.org/x/4030621


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[Mailman-Users] Mailman in two servers

2021-11-01 Thread Ivan Tejeiro Izquierdo
Hi,
Is it possible to run mailman on 2 servers at the same time? What directories 
should be shared between both servers and how to configure the mm_cfg.py?
Thanks.
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Expected mailq behavior/maintenance commands

2021-11-01 Thread Mark Sapiro

On 11/1/21 10:04 AM, John Lake wrote:

Thanks Mark!

I checked Defaults.py and it appears that the VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL value setting is 
"0".



So Mailman is already doing everything it can to help Sendmail. Anything 
else has to be done in Sendmail.



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[Mailman-Users] Re: Expected mailq behavior/maintenance commands

2021-11-01 Thread John Lake
Thanks Mark!

I checked Defaults.py and it appears that the VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL value 
setting is "0".



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Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Expected mailq behavior/maintenance commands

On 11/1/21 7:54 AM, John Lake wrote:
> Thanks Steve and Mark!  Which file has the VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL setting?  I 
> did not see it in mm_cfg or the .py files in the MTA directory.


If it is not set in mm_cfg.py, it assumes the default value from Defaults.py.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Expected mailq behavior/maintenance commands

2021-11-01 Thread Mark Sapiro

On 11/1/21 7:54 AM, John Lake wrote:

Thanks Steve and Mark!  Which file has the VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL setting?  I 
did not see it in mm_cfg or the .py files in the MTA directory.



If it is not set in mm_cfg.py, it assumes the default value from 
Defaults.py.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: Expected mailq behavior/maintenance commands

2021-11-01 Thread John Lake
Thanks Steve and Mark!  Which file has the VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL setting?  I 
did not see it in mm_cfg or the .py files in the MTA directory.

We had a pronounced spike again in the /mqueue dir earlier this morning --it 
went up to more than 1200 messages and then 30 minutes later it was back down 
to 110.

Thanks again,

John

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Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 12:03 AM
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Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Expected mailq behavior/maintenance commands

Mark Sapiro writes:

 > On the other hand, if VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL is set to 0, Mailman will  > 
 > deliver messages to Sendmail in chunks with multiple recipients per  > 
 > message.

Note that personalization also affects this.  For example, if the footer 
contains the subscriber's subscription page URL, the message has to be 
submitted separately for each subscriber.

I think those two settings are everything that affects the ability of the MTA 
to send to multiple recipients in one SMTP transaction.  Mark?

Steve

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Expected mailq behavior/maintenance commands

2021-11-01 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Sapiro writes:

 > On the other hand, if VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL is set to 0, Mailman will 
 > deliver messages to Sendmail in chunks with multiple recipients per 
 > message.

Note that personalization also affects this.  For example, if the
footer contains the subscriber's subscription page URL, the message
has to be submitted separately for each subscriber.

I think those two settings are everything that affects the ability of
the MTA to send to multiple recipients in one SMTP transaction.  Mark?

Steve

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