[Mailman-Users] {Spam?} in subject lines.

2021-12-07 Thread Adam Morris

Hi all,
I realised I asked about this recently.
on lists I run I don't have this appearing in subject lines where 
messages are sent from g mail and other domains.
For a list I don't run messages sent from g mail and other providers 
have this in the subject line.

Wondering what settings need changing on the list this is happening with?
TIA.

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[Mailman-Users] It gets weirder re. Microsoft block list

2021-12-07 Thread Jayson Smith

Hi,


I just received Microsoft's response to my deliverability support 
request. Mitigated? Nope. Not qualified for mitigation? Nope again. 
Their resolution states:



We were unable to identify anything on our side that would prevent your 
mail from reaching Outlook.com customers.



I sent a test Email to an Outlook customer after receiving that 
response, and it bounced right back with the same error as always. 
Needless to say I've responded to Microsoft's message. We'll see where 
this goes.



Jayson


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[Mailman-Users] Re: I'm on Microsoft's blocklist again!

2021-12-07 Thread Jon Baron
On 12/07/21 12:49, Jayson Smith wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> Just over two weeks since I found myself on Microsoft's blocklist and
> was manually removed, I find myself back on their blocklist again.
> Possibly coincidentally, this morning MXToolbox informed me that
> Linode has apparently found itself back on Uceprotectl3. Does anyone
> know if Microsoft considers that particular blacklist when deciding
> to blocklist an IP? Naturally, I've submitted a deliverability
> support ticket, and will probably have to wait several hours for the
> result.

I am also on Linode and also a repeat-victim of Microsoft: sjdm.org
(and Linode thinks we are jbaron.org, both addresses sort of work).

I strongly believe that nobody pays attention to UCEPROTECT3. I don't
think we have ever been off of it, and lately we have 100% success
except for a few "user not found" or "over quota" messages, including
with Microsoft. The last problem with Microsoft took over a week to
resolve despite repeated emails from what seemed to be a person saying
that they had brought in their escalation team, or something like
that.

That weeklong outage was due to an error message about IPv4 addresses
in "our range". UCEPROTECT3, as I recall, looks at IPv6. Microsoft
uses only ipv4. Of course we control exactly one ipv4 address. (We do
have one /64 ipv6 address, installed at my request by Linode, and that
fixed some of the other blocklists that look at ipv6, even though we
have another ipv6 address without that range specifier, which is what
I think it is.)

> As always, I'm not doing anything wrong (that I know of at least).
> Even if someone had hacked my server, my hypothesis is that they'd
> have to be a very careful and methodical hacker if their aim were to
> get me blocklisted by Microsoft and only Microsoft. If my server were
> spewing out spam, I ought to be hitting Spamhaus/SORBS/etc. spam
> traps left and right. Trust me, one time I was hacked, my server was
> sending out spam and I didn't know it, and I quickly found myself on
> Spamhaus XBL.

Spamhaus is a much bigger problem. I think the /64 helped with
that. For the last few months they have not given us trouble.

Please feel free to communicate with me directly at ba...@sjdm.org or
the address I am writing from. I've spent a lot of time getting things
to work, and, at this moment, they do.

Jon

> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Jayson
> 
> 
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[Mailman-Users] Re: I'm on Microsoft's blocklist again!

2021-12-07 Thread Christian via Mailman-Users
Hello Jayson Smith. On Tue, 7 Dec 2021 12:49:51 -0500, you wrote:

> Just over two weeks since I found myself on Microsoft's blocklist and 
> was manually removed, I find myself back on their blocklist again. 
> Possibly coincidentally, this morning MXToolbox informed me that 
> Linode has apparently found itself back on Uceprotectl3. 

I had yesterday the same issue with a different provider on the recipient’s 
side. I asked my hosting provider and his answer was:

> uceprotect has the reputation of a scam blackmail service. I have 
> asked for delisting (although there was no reason for blacklisting to 
> begin with). Please, allow up to 36 hours for delisting.

Best wishes 
Christian 


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[Mailman-Users] Re: I'm on Microsoft's blocklist again!

2021-12-07 Thread Mark Sapiro

On 12/7/21 9:49 AM, Jayson Smith wrote:

Hi,


Just over two weeks since I found myself on Microsoft's blocklist and 
was manually removed, I find myself back on their blocklist again. 
Possibly coincidentally, this morning MXToolbox informed me that Linode 
has apparently found itself back on Uceprotectl3. Does anyone know if 
Microsoft considers that particular blacklist when deciding to blocklist 
an IP? Naturally, I've submitted a deliverability support ticket, and 
will probably have to wait several hours for the result.



Uceprotectl3 and Uceprotectl2 are not respected blacklists. Many people 
view them as extortion. Microsoft does not use them (pretty much no one 
does). I have a server that's on Uceprotectl3 and periodically is on 
Uceprotectl2 and Microsoft is not blocking it.



As always, I'm not doing anything wrong (that I know of at least). Even 
if someone had hacked my server, my hypothesis is that they'd have to be 
a very careful and methodical hacker if their aim were to get me 
blocklisted by Microsoft and only Microsoft. If my server were spewing 
out spam, I ought to be hitting Spamhaus/SORBS/etc. spam traps left and 
right. Trust me, one time I was hacked, my server was sending out spam 
and I didn't know it, and I quickly found myself on Spamhaus XBL.



Any thoughts?



Dealing with Microsoft blocks is always a pain. It requires patience and 
persistence, but if you persevere, they will eventually unblock you.



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[Mailman-Users] Re: I'm on Microsoft's blocklist again!

2021-12-07 Thread Paul Moore
My experience is that MS uses its own system and I do typically, not 
always, find my server on other RBLs when I'm on MS. Currently I'm 
having issue with Cisco's Talos system even though I'm not on any from 
https://multirbl.valli.org or MSToolbox.


This is where I deal with MS if you haven't seen it before. 
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/supportrequestform/8ad563e3-288e-2a61-8122-3ba03d6b8d75


Cheers,
Paul

On 12/7/2021 9:49 AM, Jayson Smith wrote:

Hi,


Just over two weeks since I found myself on Microsoft's blocklist and 
was manually removed, I find myself back on their blocklist again. 
Possibly coincidentally, this morning MXToolbox informed me that 
Linode has apparently found itself back on Uceprotectl3. Does anyone 
know if Microsoft considers that particular blacklist when deciding to 
blocklist an IP? Naturally, I've submitted a deliverability support 
ticket, and will probably have to wait several hours for the result.



As always, I'm not doing anything wrong (that I know of at least). 
Even if someone had hacked my server, my hypothesis is that they'd 
have to be a very careful and methodical hacker if their aim were to 
get me blocklisted by Microsoft and only Microsoft. If my server were 
spewing out spam, I ought to be hitting Spamhaus/SORBS/etc. spam traps 
left and right. Trust me, one time I was hacked, my server was sending 
out spam and I didn't know it, and I quickly found myself on Spamhaus 
XBL.



Any thoughts?


Thanks,


Jayson


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[Mailman-Users] I'm on Microsoft's blocklist again!

2021-12-07 Thread Jayson Smith

Hi,


Just over two weeks since I found myself on Microsoft's blocklist and 
was manually removed, I find myself back on their blocklist again. 
Possibly coincidentally, this morning MXToolbox informed me that Linode 
has apparently found itself back on Uceprotectl3. Does anyone know if 
Microsoft considers that particular blacklist when deciding to blocklist 
an IP? Naturally, I've submitted a deliverability support ticket, and 
will probably have to wait several hours for the result.



As always, I'm not doing anything wrong (that I know of at least). Even 
if someone had hacked my server, my hypothesis is that they'd have to be 
a very careful and methodical hacker if their aim were to get me 
blocklisted by Microsoft and only Microsoft. If my server were spewing 
out spam, I ought to be hitting Spamhaus/SORBS/etc. spam traps left and 
right. Trust me, one time I was hacked, my server was sending out spam 
and I didn't know it, and I quickly found myself on Spamhaus XBL.



Any thoughts?


Thanks,


Jayson


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