[Mailman-Users] Re: Messages being delivered to administrators who are not subscribed.

2022-03-11 Thread Mark Sapiro

On 3/11/22 20:38, Mark Dale via Mailman-Users wrote:


SCENARIO 1.

m...@postmark.io = Administrator only (not a subscriber)

=

Test message posted to the list by a member at 04:11

Result: Message correctly delivered to all members, plus message delivered to 
Administrator (who is not a subscriber).

=

Mailman server's Postfix log shows:

Mar 12 04:11:28 sfo postfix/smtp[1158]: 6B3E7452E0: to=, 
relay=svn.postmark.io[95.217.216.206]:25, delay=2.1, delays=0.05/0.19/1.4/0.41, 
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 427CE3EE82)



That's the final delivery to m...@postmark.io. What are the earlier log 
messages showing the message arriving and being delivered to command 
`/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post krnet` and maybe to command 
`/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner krnet`.


I.e there should be a whole chain of log messages for queue id 
6B3E7452E0, and then before that, how the message got to whatever queued 
it with id 6B3E7452E0.




=

Header of the received message shows the message as having come from the 
Mailman server, and identifies the list correctly.



What are the headers - full received chain and any Mailman added 
headers, i.e. List-*:, etc.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: Messages being delivered to administrators who are not subscribed.

2022-03-11 Thread Mark Dale via Mailman-Users



 Original Message 
Subject: account
From: Hunter Parker 
To: supp...@mailmanlists.net
Date: 1/31/2021, 3:30:02 AM

> On 3/11/22 11:45, Mark Dale via Mailman-Users wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have just created a new list and the posts from/to subscribers are being 
>> received and delivered as expected. All is well there.
>>
>> However the messages are also being delivered to the administrators who are 
>> not subscribed.
>>
>> And if the administrator is a subscriber, they receive two copies of the 
>> post.
>>
>> Have I missed a setting, or have I screwed up the plumbing somewhere?


> 
> 
> What's in the Postfix mail.log for the delivery of the incoming message.
> 
> What are the aliases for this list?
> 
> Do the admin's messages come from Mailman?
> 

//

The issue is affecting only the one list on this server (all others are 
behaving correctly), which had me thinking it was a list-specific 
administration setting that I am not seeing.

The aliases for this list are as normal:

krnet:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post krnet"
krnet-admin:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin krnet"
krnet-bounces:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces krnet"
krnet-confirm:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm krnet"
krnet-join: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join krnet"
krnet-leave:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave krnet"
krnet-owner:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner krnet"
krnet-request:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request krnet"
krnet-subscribe:"|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe krnet"
krnet-unsubscribe:  "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe krnet"

.../bin/newaliases was run, and postfix reloaded.

/
/

SCENARIO 1.

m...@postmark.io = Administrator only (not a subscriber)

=

Test message posted to the list by a member at 04:11

Result: Message correctly delivered to all members, plus message delivered to 
Administrator (who is not a subscriber).  

=

Mailman server's Postfix log shows:

Mar 12 04:11:28 sfo postfix/smtp[1158]: 6B3E7452E0: to=, 
relay=svn.postmark.io[95.217.216.206]:25, delay=2.1, delays=0.05/0.19/1.4/0.41, 
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 427CE3EE82)

=

Header of the received message shows the message as having come from the 
Mailman server, and identifies the list correctly.




/
/

SCENARIO 2

m...@postmark.io = Administrator and Subscriber


=

Test message posted to the list by a member at 04:21

Result: Message correctly delivered to all members, plus message delivered to 
Administrator. The Administrator is a subscriber, so received 2 copies of the 
message.

=

Mailman server's Postfix log shows:

Mar 12 04:21:16 sfo postfix/smtp[1513]: 08AA2452E1: to=, 
relay=svn.postmark.io[95.217.216.206]:25, delay=1.9, delays=0.05/0.16/1.3/0.42, 
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as A0E743EE82)

Mar 12 04:21:25 sfo postfix/smtp[1519]: CD61B452DF: to=, 
relay=svn.postmark.io[95.217.216.206]:25, delay=12, delays=0.08/5.3/6.3/0.41, 
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as A0E0E3EE82)

=

Headers of both the received messages show as having come from the Mailman 
server, and identify the list correctly.

/
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Messages being delivered to administrators who are not subscribed.

2022-03-11 Thread Mark Sapiro

On 3/11/22 11:45, Mark Dale via Mailman-Users wrote:


Hi,

I have just created a new list and the posts from/to subscribers are being 
received and delivered as expected. All is well there.

However the messages are also being delivered to the administrators who are not 
subscribed.

And if the administrator is a subscriber, they receive two copies of the post.

Have I missed a setting, or have I screwed up the plumbing somewhere?



What's in the Postfix mail.log for the delivery of the incoming message.

What are the aliases for this list?

Do the admin's messages come from Mailman?

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[Mailman-Users] Messages being delivered to administrators who are not subscribed.

2022-03-11 Thread Mark Dale via Mailman-Users


Hi,

I have just created a new list and the posts from/to subscribers are being 
received and delivered as expected. All is well there.

However the messages are also being delivered to the administrators who are not 
subscribed.

And if the administrator is a subscriber, they receive two copies of the post.

Have I missed a setting, or have I screwed up the plumbing somewhere?

Nothing is leaping out at me from the logs. Any advice on where I should be 
looking would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Mark

PS. Mailman 2.1.39 / Debian / Postfix
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