[Mailman-Users] Re: Messages being delivered to administrators who are not subscribed.

2022-03-14 Thread Mark Dale via Mailman-Users


> These headers (read them in reverse):
> 

>> X-Original-To: krnet-ow...@list.krnet.org
>> Delivered-To: krnet-ow...@list.krnet.org
>> Received: from sfo.mailmanlists.us (ip6-localhost [IPv6:::1])
>>   by sfo.mailmanlists.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD65451F6;
>>   Sat, 12 Mar 2022 04:11:24 + (UTC)
>> X-Original-To: kr...@list.krnet.org
>> Delivered-To: kr...@list.krnet.org
>> Received: from mout01.posteo.de (mout01.posteo.de [185.67.36.65])
>>   by sfo.mailmanlists.us (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A87C4451D4
>>   for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2022 04:11:21 + (UTC)

> 
> say the message was received by the list and resent by the list to 
> krnet-owner. Is krnet-ow...@list.krnet.org a member of the list?


Bingo! There you have it :-) 

Thank you very much yet again Mark. I think I'm now sufficiently humbled for 
not seeing that.

Best,
Mark 
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Messages being delivered to administrators who are not subscribed.

2022-03-14 Thread Mark Sapiro

On 3/14/22 00:07, Mark Dale via Mailman-Users wrote:

These headers (read them in reverse):


X-Original-To: krnet-ow...@list.krnet.org
Delivered-To: krnet-ow...@list.krnet.org
Received: from sfo.mailmanlists.us (ip6-localhost [IPv6:::1])
  by sfo.mailmanlists.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD65451F6;
  Sat, 12 Mar 2022 04:11:24 + (UTC)
X-Original-To: kr...@list.krnet.org
Delivered-To: kr...@list.krnet.org
Received: from mout01.posteo.de (mout01.posteo.de [185.67.36.65])
  by sfo.mailmanlists.us (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A87C4451D4
  for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2022 04:11:21 + (UTC)


say the message was received by the list and resent by the list to 
krnet-owner. Is krnet-ow...@list.krnet.org a member of the list?


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[Mailman-Users] Re: Messages being delivered to administrators who are not subscribed.

2022-03-14 Thread Mark Dale via Mailman-Users


Hi Mark,

Just a recap (it's been a couple of days).

Problem: The list is sending a copy of the message (posted by a subscriber) to 
the administrator  who is not a subscriber.

I've replied to your queries in line.



>> =
>>
>> Mailman server's Postfix log shows:
>>
>> Mar 12 04:11:28 sfo postfix/smtp[1158]: 6B3E7452E0: to=, 
>> relay=svn.postmark.io[95.217.216.206]:25, delay=2.1, 
>> delays=0.05/0.19/1.4/0.41, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 
>> 427CE3EE82)

> 
> 
> That's the final delivery to m...@postmark.io. What are the earlier log 
> messages showing the message arriving and being delivered to command 
> `/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post krnet` and maybe to command 
> `/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner krnet`.


# grep "/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post krnet" mail.log

Mar 12 04:11:23 sfo postfix/local[1152]: A87C4451D4: to=, 
relay=local, delay=1.7, delays=1.7/0.01/0/0.05, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent 
(delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post krnet)


# grep "/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner krnet" mail.log

Mar 12 04:11:25 sfo postfix/local[1152]: BAD65451F6: 
to=, relay=local, delay=0.39, 
delays=0.1/0.01/0/0.28, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: 
/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner krnet)




> 
> I.e there should be a whole chain of log messages for queue id 6B3E7452E0, 
> and then before that, how the message got to whatever queued it with id 
> 6B3E7452E0.


All I'm seeing for "6B3E7452E0" is:


Mar 12 04:11:26 sfo postfix/smtpd[1148]: 6B3E7452E0: client=ip6-localhost[::1]
Mar 12 04:11:26 sfo postfix/cleanup[1151]: 6B3E7452E0: 
message-id=<3366ecfd5912a33298f3b66849a74...@posteo.net>
Mar 12 04:11:26 sfo opendkim[13925]: 6B3E7452E0: ip6-localhost [::1] not 
internal
Mar 12 04:11:26 sfo opendkim[13925]: 6B3E7452E0: not authenticated
Mar 12 04:11:26 sfo opendkim[13925]: 6B3E7452E0: s=2017 d=posteo.ch SSL 
error:04091068:rsa routines:int_rsa_verify:bad signature
Mar 12 04:11:26 sfo opendkim[13925]: 6B3E7452E0: bad signature data
Mar 12 04:11:26 sfo postfix/qmgr[14048]: 6B3E7452E0: 
from=, size=3120, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Mar 12 04:11:28 sfo postfix/smtp[1158]: 6B3E7452E0: to=, 
relay=svn.postmark.io[95.217.216.206]:25, delay=2.1, delays=0.05/0.19/1.4/0.41, 
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 427CE3EE82)


>> =
>>
>> Header of the received message shows the message as having come from the 
>> Mailman server, and identifies the list correctly.

> 
> 
> What are the headers - full received chain and any Mailman added headers, 
> i.e. List-*:, etc.
> 



>From - Sat Mar 12 15:12:14 2022
X-Account-Key: account61
X-UIDL: 18236140259a
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 
X-Mozilla-Keys: 

Return-Path: 
Delivered-To: m...@postmark.io
Received: from svn.postmark.io
by svn.postmark.io with LMTP
id V9iBHHAdLGIcZxIASR0QWA
(envelope-from )
for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2022 05:11:28 +0100
Received: from sfo.mailmanlists.us (sfo.mailmanlists.us [167.71.156.220])
by svn.postmark.io (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 427CE3EE82
for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2022 05:11:28 +0100 (CET)
Received: from sfo.mailmanlists.us (ip6-localhost [IPv6:::1])
by sfo.mailmanlists.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3E7452E0
for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2022 04:11:26 + (UTC)
Authentication-Results: sfo.mailmanlists.us;
dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; 
unprotected) header.d=posteo.ch header.i=@posteo.ch header.b="aOnoUCdm";
dkim-atps=neutral
X-Original-To: krnet-ow...@list.krnet.org
Delivered-To: krnet-ow...@list.krnet.org
Received: from sfo.mailmanlists.us (ip6-localhost [IPv6:::1])
 by sfo.mailmanlists.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD65451F6;
 Sat, 12 Mar 2022 04:11:24 + (UTC)
X-Original-To: kr...@list.krnet.org
Delivered-To: kr...@list.krnet.org
Received: from mout01.posteo.de (mout01.posteo.de [185.67.36.65])
 by sfo.mailmanlists.us (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A87C4451D4
 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2022 04:11:21 + (UTC)
Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) 
 by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2D4C240026
 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2022 05:11:19 +0100 (CET)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.ch; s=2017;
 t=1647058279; bh=uhsziU26DlE82aOodBuT5N/k3zqUF9gLxYr9j5Adduk=;
 h=Date:From:To:Subject:From;
 b=aOnoUCdmMpsz6xZo7olmCEYzDOzNVPw+G7ykfR0MOcALI+4LTpcLOkxJm5ILcN6Gj
 5v7dM9QGqV615jQ+z+lYR4nGmejN4Oqm36Ckcv6vl8mGeUs8nUx26tTFUDxPwo6Po6
 wYqPH+STSkGS/sBE22ZmCBLhta0FmjMdPjDe9sZ77dpATj4np/53EU8ObR0kyOrS3M
 OvsxbU8dFhsQq3ZugBUInkpFZuOiEKCjyDdb0HN9Wyqy9oyT931TDRAMXoawoy8YG8
 2b1HUIZkBc+2zSmTHpuFw6hRtAfIltddFkxbCTHDJhgYx5qnmJufUxYUHxpD3Z6/X/
 kXz56wcLSscnQ==
Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1])
 by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4KFq9g0nhFz9rxK
 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2022 05:11:18 +0100 (CET)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2022 04:11:18 +
To: k