[Mailman-Users] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: problem with non-member Sender rules

[Mark Sapiro]

On 6/27/24 8:20 AM, Laack, Andrea P. via Mailman-Users wrote:

Straight redirect with an alias.


That shouldn't affect the relevant headers used to determine the sender 
for *_these_nonmembers. Can you give a specific example of the issue and 
what you are trying to accomplish. You say "our servers send emails to 
root@". Perhaps this issue has something to do with specific 
From: or Sender: headers in these mails.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: problem with non-member Sender rules

[Laack, Andrea P. via Mailman-Users]

Straight redirect with an alias.

-Original Message-
From: Mark Sapiro 
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2024 10:18 AM
To: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Mailman-Users] Re: Re: problem with non-member Sender rules

On 6/27/24 4:15 AM, Laack, Andrea P. via Mailman-Users wrote:
> They are sent to a mail group which goes to all of the system admins.

How does this work. Is this a straight redirect as with an alias, or is some 
process involved?

The *_these_nonmembers rules test the one address returned by the
Message.get_sender() method. See the doc string at
https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/view/head:/Mailman/Message.py#L115
for how this is determined and how it is affected by the 
mm_cfg.USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER setting.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: problem with non-member Sender rules

[Mark Sapiro]

On 6/27/24 4:15 AM, Laack, Andrea P. via Mailman-Users wrote:

They are sent to a mail group which goes to all of the system admins.


How does this work. Is this a straight redirect as with an alias, or is 
some process involved?


The *_these_nonmembers rules test the one address returned by the 
Message.get_sender() method. See the doc string at 
https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/view/head:/Mailman/Message.py#L115 
for how this is determined and how it is affected by the 
mm_cfg.USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER setting.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: problem with non-member Sender rules

[Laack, Andrea P. via Mailman-Users]

They are sent to a mail group which goes to all of the system admins.

Andrea

From: Odhiambo Washington 
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2024 4:41 AM
To: Laack, Andrea P. 
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Mailman-Users] problem with non-member Sender rules



On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 12:05 AM Laack, Andrea P. via Mailman-Users 
mailto:mailman-users@python.org>> wrote:
Our non-member Sender rules work fine with emails coming directly from the 
sender, but our servers send emails to root@ and those are forwarded to 
the mail list.  The Sender filters do not seem to be working on this forwarded 
email.  How can we get around this?

On Unix systems, emails sent to root@ should be aliased to the System 
Administrator's email address, i.e. 
laack.and...@mayo.edu. They should NEVER be sent 
anywhere else.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: problem with non-member Sender rules

[Odhiambo Washington]

On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 12:05 AM Laack, Andrea P. via Mailman-Users <
mailman-users@python.org> wrote:

> Our non-member Sender rules work fine with emails coming directly from the
> sender, but our servers send emails to root@ and those are
> forwarded to the mail list.  The Sender filters do not seem to be working
> on this forwarded email.  How can we get around this?
>

On Unix systems, emails sent to root@ should be aliased to the
System Administrator's email address, i.e. laack.and...@mayo.edu. They
should NEVER be sent anywhere else.

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