Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual sites
Jim Popovitch wrote: > The problem with this approach is that Mailman will still only use the > single specified mail server, rather than processing a list of > mailservers defined as MX records for a DNS domain. If I have a domain name for which there are 3 MXs setup in a Round Robin configuration, wouldn't mailman be given a different IP each time? For example: ; zone file fragment @ IN MX 10 mail.example.com. mail IN A 192.168.0.4 IN A 192.168.0.5 IN A 192.168.0.6 If I tell mailman SMTPHOST='mail.example.com', in theory it should receive a different IP to connect to each time it queries that host name. UNLESS mailman is internally caching that information (to use again on subsequent runs.) -- W | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. +-------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual sites
Carl Zwanzig wrote: > Probably the easiest way to get the 'multiple' domains that you want > is to run one instance of mailman for each domain. Yoy can then configure > the smtphost for that specific domain. And to second this part of Carl's e-mail, this is exactly what I'm doing on my end. I wanted to be able to have the same mailing list *name* exist across multiple virtual domains. Back in January 2003 I posted a question about this, and at the time, Barry Warsaw replied with the following: -- AMK> Under MM2.0.x I created separate installations for AMK> different virtual hosts. This allowed me to create the same AMK> list name, on a different virtual host without having mailman AMK> conflict. Now, with MM2.1, how should I continue to do this? MM2.1 doesn't lift this restriction, so your best bet is to continue your current approach. However, there /is/ a semi-supported extension mechanism that you might be able to use to share one installation to do it all. See the Mailman/Site.py file for details, although there's no guarantee this will give you enough of a hook. -Barry -- So far I haven't seen this change, and to be perfectly honest, I don't really expect it to either. I can't speak for everyone, but I think the number of people who have the same type of installation as me are fairly limited compared to everyone else who runs MM. But then, I could be wrong. MM does what it was designed to do. The fact that a few of us have quirky setups, I don't think is enough to go through a rewrite. :) Just my two cents. But to comment on Jay Vaagen's original post, I think separating the virtual domains across multiple MM installations might be the easier way to go. I have one server that's is specifically for MM, and it's hosting 7 different domains, each one with anywhere between 5 to 50 lists on each installation. -- Ash -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Upgrading after crash
Our list server decided to take a dive yesterday so I spent the day rebuilding. So far everything seems to be working just peachy. However, I have this nagging feeling I'm forgetting something, so I thought I'd ask the experts. Maybe I did over look something, not sure... So after getting the server back up and running, I copied the following from backup: /home/mailman/[domain]/archives /home/mailman/[domain]/data /home/mailman/[domain]/lists I didn't care for what was stuck in qfiles, nor any running locks and what not. After fixing the directory permissions, I installed mailman 2.1.9 (which was an upgrade from 2.1.8 for me) and after starting cron and the qrunner, everything appears fine. Passwords are still what they were and mail is flowing. All of the web services are working as well (still under suexec.) So, what did I forget? -- W | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. +-------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading after crash
Jim Popovitch wrote: > Custom scripts in /usr/local/mailman/cron|cgi-bin| ? > Custom settings in mm_cfg.py? > Custom site html in /home/mailman/*/html/ > Queued files (bounces, etc) in /home/mailman/*/queue/* > > None of the above may apply, but that's my check list when upgrading. > Yup, none of those applied. But thanks for the list. One day I may need that... -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Personalization Question
I'm helping a customer set up three new lists and am running against a small issue. I have OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION turned on and when we send a message to the list address, the message has: Subject: [whatever subject] From: Sender: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Date: To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> How do I get rid of the Sender and CC lines? I don't notice those lines on other lists (that don't have personalization turned on.) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribers bouncing
Debbie wrote: > I keep having about 90% of my 3000 subscribers bouncing on a regular basis. > I've checked and most are good addresses. Even the address that I use keeps > bouncing, and sending me the bounce message, even though I get all the > messages I send. I'd start by finding out why they're bouncing. If you're finding out that their addresses are valid, and yet your messages are bouncing, then you need to start by figuring out the reason for the bounce. And that can be a number of things... -- W | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. +-------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender Name in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm running Mailman 2.1.5 > > I've looked through the archives and have yet to find an answer to this. > > I'm running an anonymous discussion list. The list is setup so replies > are by directed back to the list. > > I would like to be able to add the senders/posters name (the > (optional) name that is in the system) to the header, message or footer. > > I want it this way to dummy proof the list by forcing a signature. > > Any way this can be done? > > > Jeff > You might want to read FAQ 3.15 as a start. It tells you how to enable personalization on an installation, and how to set it up per list. Once enabled, you can click on any of the 'about' links when you're browsing the admin site for your list and it gives you pointers on how to add personalized messages to the message. Do keep in mind that you're taking a performance hit with personalization. So be careful with that. -- W | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. + Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender Name in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have personalization turn on but I didn't think it had a variable > for the poster/senders name (not that I found). Am I missing some > thing? I know it has the TO: username variable. But thats not what I'm > looking for. Log in to your admin site, go under the 'Non-digest options' and enable the personalize option. Then click the 'Details for msg header' link in the next box below that personalization option. Read the instructions. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender Name in message
Mark Sapiro wrote: > All of the personalization substitutions are for the RECIPIENT, not the > SENDER. > Ah yes, I did overlook that part. My bad. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Where's Korea? (recurring problem)
This seems to be a recurring problem, based on a Google search: No module named korean. I'm moving lists from one server running Mailman 2.1.9 to another server. I picked one list domain to move and test, so I grabbed the 'archives', 'data', 'lists', 'logs' and 'qfiles' folders and moved them over to the new server. Paths are all identical. Next I untarred Mailman 2.1.9, run configure and hit make...it ran till it hit the following: Compiling /home/mailman/lists.pcraft.net/Mailman/i18n.py ... Compiling /home/mailman/lists.pcraft.net/Mailman/mm_cfg.py ... Compiling /home/mailman/lists.pcraft.net/Mailman/versions.py ... Traceback (most recent call last): File "bin/update", line 46, in ? import paths File "/home/mailman/lists.pcraft.net/bin/paths.py", line 60, in ? import korean ImportError: No module named korean make: *** [update] Error 1 Looking in /pythonlib/ I only see an 'email' folder, nothing else. The system is running FC5 with Python 2.4.3. -- W | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. + Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Where's Korea? (recurring problem)
c/koco_stream.h:300: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘*’ token src/koco_stream.h:352: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘*’ token src/koco_stream.h:418: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘*’ token src/koco_stream.h:484: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘*’ token src/koco_stream.h:549: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘*’ token src/koco_stream.h:569: error: array type has incomplete element type src/koco_stream.h:570: error: ‘PyCFunction’ undeclared here (not in a function) src/koco_stream.h:570: error: expected ‘}’ before ‘StreamReader___init__’ src/koco_stream.h:573: error: expected ‘}’ before ‘StreamReader_read’ src/koco_stream.h:576: error: expected ‘}’ before ‘StreamReader_readline’ src/koco_stream.h:579: error: expected ‘}’ before ‘StreamReader_readlines’ src/koco_stream.h:582: error: expected ‘}’ before ‘StreamReader_reset’ src/koco_stream.h:585: error: ‘NULL’ undeclared here (not in a function) src/_koco.c:129: error: array type has incomplete element type src/_koco.c:130: error: expected ‘}’ before ‘euc_kr_decode’ src/_koco.c:131: error: expected ‘}’ before ‘euc_kr_encode’ src/_koco.c:132: error: expected ‘}’ before ‘cp949_decode’ src/_koco.c:133: error: expected ‘}’ before ‘cp949_encode’ src/_koco.c: In function ‘init_koco’: src/_koco.c:142: error: ‘PyObject’ undeclared (first use in this function) src/_koco.c:142: error: ‘m’ undeclared (first use in this function) src/_koco.c:142: error: ‘d’ undeclared (first use in this function) src/_koco.c:142: warning: left-hand operand of comma expression has no effect src/_koco.c:142: error: ‘t’ undeclared (first use in this function) src/_koco.c:142: warning: left-hand operand of comma expression has no effect src/_koco.c:145: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘Py_InitModule’ src/_koco.c:148: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘PyModule_GetDict’ src/_koco.c:150: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘PyClass_New_WithMethods’ src/_koco.c:151: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘PyDict_SetItemString’ src/_koco.c:152: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘Py_DECREF’ src/_koco.c:154: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘PyString_FromString’ src/_koco.c:158: error: ‘ErrorObject’ undeclared (first use in this function) src/_koco.c:158: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘PyErr_NewException’ src/_koco.c:163: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘PyErr_Occurred’ src/_koco.c:164: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘Py_FatalError’ error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1 make[1]: *** [install-packages] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mailman/mailman-2.1.9/misc' ...right there. -- H | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. + Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Where's Korea? (recurring problem)
Mark Sapiro wrote: > It looks like the > > #include "Python.h" > > near the beginning of _koco.c is failing. Is there a python2.4 directory > in /usr/include? > That was it. python-devel was not installed on this machine. Would be nice if the configure script checked for all the necessary header files prior to compiling/installing. It installed now...though the bazillion errors were still there: src/_koco_uhc.h:3008: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:3008: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:3008: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:3008: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:3008: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:3008: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:3009: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:3009: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness In file included from src/_koco.c:121: src/euckr_codec.h: In function ‘euc_kr_encode’: src/euckr_codec.h:127: warning: format ‘%04x’ expects type ‘unsigned int’, but argument 3 has type ‘Py_UNICODE’ In file included from src/_koco.c:122: src/cp949_codec.h: In function ‘cp949_encode’: src/cp949_codec.h:151: warning: format ‘%04x’ expects type ‘unsigned int’, but argument 3 has type ‘Py_UNICODE’ In file included from src/_koco.c:123: src/koco_stream.h: In function ‘__euc_kr_decode’: src/koco_stream.h:42: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness src/koco_stream.h:43: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness src/koco_stream.h: In function ‘__cp949_decode’: src/koco_stream.h:135: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness src/koco_stream.h:136: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness -- H | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. +-------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Where's Korea? (recurring problem)
Mark Sapiro wrote: > I don't see these here. Perhaps it's some difference between gcc > versions or configurations. > Would you like to see a full log of the compile, maybe that'll shed some light? -- A -- W | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. +-------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Where's my mail going?
Jon Slater wrote: > I just set up a new Mailman server (Fedora Core 8) and followed the > instructions I found in the FAQs to move my lists. > Did you set up, and start the cron task? -- H | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. +-------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] How did I break my mailman?
On Fri, 24 Oct 2008, TGPlatt, WebMaster wrote: > All this stuff worked FINE yesterday before the move; so somehow this is > clearly related to the move; but I'm not exactly sure what could be wrong. > Any troubleshooting suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I'd like to > answer these questions: > > 1.Why don't confirmations work? > 2.2. Why can't mailman send emails to list members? Did you by any chance forget to (re)install the crontab that runs most of Mailman's background tasks? -- L | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +------------ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual domain support
Geoff Shang wrote: This would appear to be the sticking point. The aliases file doesn't generate fully-qualified Email addresses, only local parts. How do I ensure that a message to annou...@foo.com doesn't go to annou...@bar.org? This must be doable, because if it's not, then this defeats the whole point of doing this in the first place. Presumably I need to do this in postfix/main.cf somehow but I'm at a loss as to how to do this. Not sure if this will help you or not, but I'll share anywhere ... I have a multi setup for mailman to host multiple domains. All my list domains are configured as 'lists.$domain', for example 'lists.yeehaw.net'. My mailman installations all go under /home/mailman/lists.$domain I don't know how this is done in postfix, but in sendmail I have the following: => /etc/mail/aliases/$domain-aliases mailman-lists.$domain \ "|/home/mailman/lists.$domain/mail/$domain-mailman post mailman" mailman-admin-lists.$domain:\ "|/home/mailman/lists.$domain/mail/$domain-mailman admin mailman" mailman-bounces-lists.$domain: \ "|/home/mailman/lists.$domain/mail/$domain-mailman bounces mailman" mailman-confirm-lists.$domain: \ "|/home/mailman/lists.$domain/mail/$domain-mailman confirm mailman" => /etc/mail/virtusertable mail...@lists.$domain mailman-lists.$domain mailman-ad...@lists.$domainmailman-admin-lists.$domain mailman-boun...@lists.$domain mailman-bounces-lists.$domain mailman-conf...@lists.$domain mailman-confirm-lists.$domain This ensures that an incoming e-mail to say for example 'mailman-ad...@lists.$domain' gets rerouted to 'mailman-admin-lists.$domain' which the alias then expands in to '"|/home/mailman/lists.$domain/mail/$domain-mailman admin mailman"' This allows one to have various mailman@'various domains' going to the same server through the same MTA without it going nutso. Now you may be wondering why I renamed the 'mailman' binary to '$domain-mailman'. That's because of permissions within sendmail. Any binary that is going to be sending stuff out needs to be allowed by sendmail, and since I have multiple installations of mailman, in different paths, you can't just tell sendmail it's called 'mailman'. It will get utterly confused when the various lists are trying to send something out. So, by renaming each one to their respective $domain, it keeps sendmail from going bonkers. In my /usr/adm/sm.bin/ I have various symlinks to $domain-mailman which link back to /home/mailman/lists-$domain/mail/$domain-mailman Cheers -- W | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. + Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:ash...@pcraft.com> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 2901 55th Street http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80301, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Install errors
I'm installing mailman 2.1.6 on a fresh system running FC4 (fresh being that it was just installed.) Configure and make went without a problem, but when I went to install it, my screen got filled with many many lines of this: src/_japanese_codecs.c: In function ‘encode_euc_jp’: src/_japanese_codecs.c:147: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness src/_japanese_codecs.c: In function ‘encode_shift_jis’: src/_japanese_codecs.c:381: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness src/_japanese_codecs.c: In function ‘encode_ms932’: In file included from src/_koco.c:49: src/_koco_ksc5601.h:1493: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_ksc5601.h:1493: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_ksc5601.h:1493: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_ksc5601.h:1493: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_ksc5601.h:1494: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness In file included from src/_koco.c:50: src/_koco_uhc.h:1613: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:1613: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:1613: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:1613: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness src/_koco_uhc.h:1614: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness It is a very very long list of lines like that. Someone care to explain? Is it just because of the Japanese characters? -- H | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +-------- Ashley M. Kirchner. 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Sendmail smrsh + multiple mailman
I have a bit of an odd one here. I have multiple mailman installations on one machine (for reasons we won't detail here) as follows: ~mailman// ~mailman// etc. When e-mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED] arrives, it goes into the appropriate folder and does what Mailman does best. The same for [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc., etc. (this setup allows me to have the same list name across multiple domains, behaving as individual lists) The problem I'm running into now is sendmail's smrsh. I can copy the wrapper from one of those hosts into sendmail smrsh's folder, however it will only work for that one host installation. It won't work for the next. And since all the wrappers are called 'mailman', obviously I can't copy all of them in the same (smrsh) folder. So, my question, or questions: a) Is there an easy solution to this where smrsh will work? b) If not, can the 'mailman' wrapper be renamed? (this of course means aliases also get adjusted accordingly) -- H | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +------------ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Black hole
Dennis Putnam wrote: >I am having trouble with my distribution lists (well, only one is >currently under test). I can see from the mail.log file that an >incoming message was processed and sent to 'mailman'. However, no one >on the list received anything and I cannot see anything in the log >where it was distributed. The message seems to have gone into a black >hole without a trace. > > Is the mailman process running? Is the crontab running? -- H | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +------------ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mail to -bounces address
I'm receiving a lot of spam that comes in to our lists' [EMAIL PROTECTED] address. And mailman will dutifully tell me they're Uncaught bounces. All fine and well, but is there some way I can simply avoid that all together? I can't block that email address, can I? -- H | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +-------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Bounce messages
We'd like to set one of our lists up so that permanent/fatal errors (such as invalid mailbox, unknown user, unknown host) would immediately get unsubscribed, while temp fails (such as mailbox full, try again later, etc.) will simply go through the normal motions. With that, we have a few questions: a) Does mailman discern between a temp fail and a permanent fail on a subscriber's address? Obviously this would be the way to figure out who gets unsubscribed right away and who doesn't. b) How do we configure mailman to do this immediate unsub of the permanent/fatal errors? b) in logs/bounce, I see various different bounce scores. Can anyone tell me what those numbers actually mean? Jul 16 23:14:54 2005 (1835) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: list current bounce score: 3.0 Jul 17 05:10:59 2005 (1835) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: list current bounce score: 4.0 Jul 22 10:21:11 2005 (1835) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: list current bounce score: 5.0 Jul 27 12:00:49 2005 (1868) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: list current bounce score: 2.0 Aug 17 06:17:18 2005 (1868) [EMAIL PROTECTED] list current bounce score: 1.0 -- W | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. +-------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Changing max_recipients
If I change my SMTP_MAX_RCPTS (in Defaults.py) while something is being sent out, is there anyway to have mailman ... uh ... recalculate if you will and continue sending where it was, but with the new max_recipient number instead of the old one? Or am I stuck till this queue finishes? -- W | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. +---- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Footer as attachment
Not sure how to configure and shut this off, but I noticed when someone sends a plain/text formatted e-mail to a list, the footer comes in as part of the message. However, when someone sends a text/html message, the footer becomes an attachment. Is there a way to make the footer always be part of the message? Or is this something I need to put before hitting mailman (like stripmime) to overcome this problem? Running mailman 2.1.5... -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +---- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Upgrade question
Having moved from mailman 2.0.11 to 2.1.5, I'm left with a few questions: 1) What, if anything, do I need to do to make sure the old lists work with the new mailman? When I installed 2.1.5, it told me that it checked/fixed/converted lists at the very end of the installation. Does that mean I'm all done, and I don't have to do anything else with the list files? 2) Paths also changed when I upgraded. The previous installation was in /usr/people/mailman, and it's now in /home/mailman. Presumably, all the lists are still assuming they're using the old path. What needs to be done to get that solved? Feel free to simply point me to the appropriate answer somewhere on the web, if it's available. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] SUEXEC question
Mailman likes to have the scripts in /cgi-bin/ to be run with set-gid, however SUEXEC won't allow it. So, a) can mailman work in a SUEXEC environment if I turn OFF the set-gid bit?, or b) what other caveats do I have to look out for with mailman running in a SUEXEC environment? I looked in the FAQ for 'suexec' but that search turned up empty, so I'm not sure if I'm not searching for the right term, or whether no one has tried it yet. There is also no mention of suexec anywhere in the source files or documentation. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +------------ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] unknown mailer problems
So right now I'm faced with the following error: - Transcript of session follows - /usr/bin/python: can't open file '/home/mailman/lists/scripts/post' 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 2 However, here's my problem: that file does exist, in that path, so why would python complain that it can't open it? -- H | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +-------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] unknown mailer problems
Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: So right now I'm faced with the following error: - Transcript of session follows - /usr/bin/python: can't open file '/home/mailman/lists/scripts/post' 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 2 However, here's my problem: that file does exist, in that path, so why would python complain that it can't open it? I forgot to add: the permissions are correct, but for the mail-gid as well as cgi-gid. That I checked over and over, and they're correct. So what else could be causing the problem? -- H | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +-------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] unknown mailer problems
Mark Sapiro wrote: It's hard to know what the problem might be because you seem to be presenting a moving target and not telling us much about what you're doing. Your initial post was about suEXEC and removing the setgid bit from the various wrappers in the cgi-bin/ directory. Yes it was, and after removing the set-gid bits from everything within the /cgi-bin/, I kept on trucking because it seemed to run just fine. I say "seemed" because I haven't done a whole lot of testing just yet. When I was ready to do that, I ran into the unknown mailer problem... Which by the way has now been solved as well. Keep reading please... First of all, the scripts/post script is not normally found in the lists/ directory. This is correct, however I run mailman across several domains, on the same server, and its built-in virtual domain capabilities simply don't allow me to do what I want to do (or what my clients want.) So, I install mailman under one user, but in separate folders (for separate domains) /lists/ being one of them (this by the way was brought up several times in the past.) So yes, your assumption is correct, I do configure mailman with --prefix=/home/mailman// So, are you trying to remove setgid from everything and somehow give permissions to the mail-gid and the cgi-gid? I don't really know about running Mailman under suEXEC. Neither do I, however with our recent web server upgrades and batting down the hatches, I'm forces to find a way to install Mailman under suexec. So this was my project of the day. I think what this really means is it isn't possible to set Mailman up properly to run with suEXEC. Maybe so, however I'm still testing it out. Yes, I have removed the set-gid bit from anything within the /cgi-bin/ folder since that's what suexec requires. As for the other error (unknown mailer error), python won't read/execute programs in a folder that's g-x which /home/mailman/ was. Once that restriction was removed, it happily worked. Now I need to continue testing, sending myself mail, subscribing, etc., etc. So far, it's working. -- H | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] unknown mailer problems
Mark Sapiro wrote: I'm not saying it won't work. I think it probably will. The one issue I think you may have is if you have private archives, they may turn out to be accessible to anyone because your web server now runs as group mailman which is documented as wrong for this reason. Hrm, yes, that would be a problem (I just tested it and it's indeed visible to everyone, despite the URL difference.) I'd hate to have to come up with a login procedure outside of mailman simply because it won't play well with suexec. Yes I realize it's mentioned very specifically that mailman needs for the exec not to be run as the mailman user, however that will go against suexec's security feature. So I guess my question now is, what can be done to make this work? Or maybe a better question would be, when will mailman reach a point where it will and can run within a suexec environment? I like my security and I like using mailman. -- H | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +-------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] unknown mailer problems
Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Hrm, yes, that would be a problem (I just tested it and it's indeed visible to everyone, despite the URL difference.) Errr, I was wrong. It helps if I wasn't the one logged in, making administrative changes, and also checking on the archives at the same time. Once I used a different browser, it worked just fine (non-members and not-logged-in members can't get to the private archives.) So, that means that so far, mailman is working quite nicely within a suexec environment, with the set-gid bit removed from all the scripts that reside in /cgi-bin/. Disclaimer: I'm still not 100% sure whether removing the set-gid bits will have any adverse complications later. I'm still in the early stages of testing. So please don't quote me on it working fine under this environment. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +-------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Site Admin vs List Admin
Probably simple enough question, but: If I login to the admin page of one of my lists, using the _site-admin_ password, and I decide to change the admin password at the bottom of that screen, what is it changing? The list-admin password, or the site-admin password? AMK4 -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! | ~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com .3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 .. . . . .Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Site Admin vs List Admin (D'oph!)
I just realized something - I can't change the list-admin password without knowing the old one. Okay, so how do I do that? One of the admins forgot her password to log in, how do I reset this for her? AMK4 -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! | ~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com .3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 .. . . . .Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Mass Subscriptions
When doing a mass subscribe through the web interface, mailman loves sending out one message per subscriber to the admin of the list. In other words, if I typed in 100 emails in the text field and hit Submit, I will get 100 emails, each one with a different subscriber's email in it. Is there a way to make mailman send out ONE email, containing all the subscriptions in it? AMK4 -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Q2: Mass _UN_subscribing
When unsubscribing an email through the web interface (by unselecting the 'subscr' box) , is there a way to tell Mailman _NOT_ to send out an unsubscribe message to said address? AMK4 -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Two questions
The first one I posted a few days back and got no reply: 1) Mass Subscribing: When mass subscribing through the web interface, mailman sends out one single 'Subscribe Successful' for each email subscribing. Meaning, if I put in 100 emails to be subscribed, I will also receive 100 emails telling me such and such successfully subscribed (each one with a different email of course). Is there any way to have mailman send out ONE email containing all emails? Just like it displays all the emails at the top of the page after subscribing. 2) Stale Locks Every once in a while I'll check on the locks directory and find a whole bunch of them in there, all stale (anywhere from a few hours, days, sometimes weeks (if I don't check it for a while). Why are these becoming stale? And, does anyone have some intelligent way of dealing with this? Perhaps a script (through a crontask) that runs every hour, checking for stale locks (say locks that are older than one hour), and clear them? If not I'll probably write a perl script or something to that nature. I just don't want to reinvent the wheel. -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com .3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 .. . . . .Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] config.db path mismatch
One of my admins decided reinstall mailman into a new directory and just *moved* the lists from one (old) directory to the other (new) directory. However, now we're faced with the fact that bits and piece of Mailman don't work (what else is new when you move things without thinking). The question now is, how can I fix the config.db file for some of these lists? Basically, it's failing on the archival linking. Mailman's error is: -- File "/home/users/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 42, in makelink os.symlink(old, new) OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory -- When I look in one of the list's config.db, I see these defined: -- 'archive_directory': '/mailman/archives/private/palladium', 'private_archive_file_dir': '/mailman/archives/private/palladium.mbox', 'public_archive_file_dir': '/mailman/archives/public', -- And I need to change those to reflect the new path (which now is /home/users/mailman/...) Can that be done, somehow? -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. |________ ~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] RTFM, yeah must have been mentioned here b4
Len Merikanto wrote: >- Transcript of session follows - > Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 12, GOT gid 2. (Reconfigure to take > 2?) > 554 5.3.0 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post test"... unknown mailer error > 2 > > have installed like 4 or 5 mailmans on freebsd machines and this bitchy > linux just doesnt swallow it? Read the error message again, and read the suggestion it gives you. Error: WANTED gid 12, GOT gid 2. Suggestion: Reconfigure to take 2? Also helpful to read is the INSTALL file that comes with Mailman, specifically section 2: 2. Running configure TAKE SPECIAL NOTE OF THE --with-mail-gid AND --with-cgi-gid OPTIONS BELOW. YOU WILL PROBABLY NEED TO USE THESE! . [ ... snip ... ] . --with-groupname= Specify a different groupname than `mailman' to use as a default. Use this only if the groupname `mailman' is already in use. Can take an integer group id. Be sure your $prefix directory is group-owned by this group. So yes, RTFM. It's written for a reason. AMK4 -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com .3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 .. . . . .Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] RTFM, yeah must have been mentioned here b4
Len Merikanto wrote: >- Transcript of session follows - > Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 12, GOT gid 2. (Reconfigure to take > 2?) > 554 5.3.0 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post test"... unknown mailer error > 2 > > have installed like 4 or 5 mailmans on freebsd machines and this bitchy > linux just doesnt swallow it? * MESSAGE RECALL: WRONG INFO * Reason: Wrong section quoted -- Read the error message again, and read the suggestion it gives you. Error: WANTED gid 12, GOT gid 2. Suggestion: Reconfigure to take 2? Also helpful to read is the INSTALL file that comes with Mailman, specifically section 2: 2. Running configure TAKE SPECIAL NOTE OF THE --with-mail-gid AND --with-cgi-gid OPTIONS BELOW. YOU WILL PROBABLY NEED TO USE THESE! . [ ... snip ... ] . > --with-groupname= >Specify a different groupname than `mailman' to use as a >default. Use this only if the groupname `mailman' is >already in use. Can take an integer group id. Be sure >your $prefix directory is group-owned by this group. This was supposed to be the following section: --with-mail-gid= Specify an alternative group for running scripts via the mail wrapper. can be a list of one or more integer group ids or symbolic group names. The first value in the list that resolves to an existing group is used. By default, the value is the list `other daemon'. This is highly system dependent and you must get this right, because the group id is compiled into the mail wrapper program for added security. On systems using sendmail, the sendmail.cf configuration file designates the group id of sendmail processes using the "DefaultUser" option. (If commented out, it still may be indicating the default...) AMK4 -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! | ~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com .3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 .. . . . .Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Odd behaviour with ownership
I run several lists on a server and every once in a while when I check on the directory where mailman resides, I see that some of the lists have their config.db and request.db owned by the Apache daemon, while others have theirs owned by mailman. list_1, all files owned mailman.mailman, EXCEPT: -rw-rw 1 httpdmailman 4922 Feb 16 08:35 config.db -rw-rw 1 httpdmailman 4922 Feb 16 08:34 config.db.last list_2, all files owner mailman.mailman, EXCEPT: -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpdmailman 2 Feb 15 17:00 request.db list_3, all files owned mailman.mailman, INCLUDING: -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 2898 Feb 15 17:00 config.db -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 2898 Feb 15 12:00 config.db.last -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 2 Feb 15 17:00 request.db Mailman never complains, and things seem to work fine. But then, there are times where it blows up while doing the checkdbs crontab. What's even more baffling is that sometimes when the checkdbs command fails, the files are all owned by mailman.mailman group, and the only way to get it going again is to chown it httpd.mailman, and this only for one list, the other ones don't cause a problem even though they're owned mailman.mailman. I repeat, this ONLY happens with SOME lists, not all of them. All the lists were created the same exact way, and the web daemon has not bee changed, recompiled, or anything. Neither has mailman. Everything works, except for that weirdness. Can anyone shed some light on this? Info: SGI Indy running IRIX 6.5.8m Mailman v2.0(UID.GID: mailman.mailman) Apache v1.3.14 (UID.GID: httpd.httpd) Python v2.0 (UID.GID: root.sys) AMK4 -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com .3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 .. . . . .Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] REPOST: File Ownerships
I run several lists on a server and every once in a while when I check on the directory where mailman resides, I see that some of the lists have their config.db and request.db owned by the Apache daemon, while others have theirs owned by mailman. list_1, all files owned mailman.mailman, EXCEPT: -rw-rw 1 httpdmailman 4922 Feb 16 08:35 config.db -rw-rw 1 httpdmailman 4922 Feb 16 08:34 config.db.last list_2, all files owner mailman.mailman, EXCEPT: -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpdmailman 2 Feb 15 17:00 request.db list_3, all files owned mailman.mailman, INCLUDING: -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 2898 Feb 15 17:00 config.db -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 2898 Feb 15 12:00 config.db.last -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 2 Feb 15 17:00 request.db Mailman never complains, and things seem to work fine. But then, there are times where it blows up while doing the checkdbs crontab. What's even more baffling is that sometimes when the checkdbs command fails, the files are all owned by mailman.mailman group, and the only way to get it going again is to chown it httpd.mailman, and this only for one list, the other ones don't cause a problem even though they're owned mailman.mailman. I repeat, this ONLY happens with SOME lists, not all of them. All the lists were created the same exact way, and the web daemon has not bee changed, recompiled, or anything. Neither has mailman. Everything works, except for that weirdness. Can anyone shed some light on this? Info: SGI Indy running IRIX 6.5.8m Mailman v2.0(UID.GID: mailman.mailman) Apache v1.3.14 (UID.GID: httpd.httpd) Python v2.0 (UID.GID: root.sys) AMK4 -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com .3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 .. . . . .Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] COMPLETELY Virtual mailing lists....
Scott Brown wrote: > Has anyone been able to completely virtualize the mailing lists under > mailman v2? Depends on how 'virtual' your setup is, and I suspect, it also depends on the MTA. I have three domains sitting on one machine and mailman installed for each one (meaning, three copies of mailman). Each vhost has it's own web address, and crontask. And I can have the same list name under all three vhosts and it works. lists.yeehaw.net-> test-list@... lists.diarist.net -> test-list@... (these don't actually exist) lists.pcraft.net-> test-list@... I run sendmail as my MTA, and using its virtusertable feature, combined with aliases, each list knows where to go, what to do and what domain to use. I have lists that exist on two, or all three domains, same name. And I have lists that only exists on one of those domains. It works like a charmfor ME! Doesn't mean it'll do the same for you. AMK4 -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Multiple Servers
What should I do with mailman, and it's aliases if I have multiple MX servers for a domain? When the actual mailman server is busy sending out email, incoming mail is/can be redirected to a second (backup) server that isn't as busy. However, that backup doesn't have mailman on it so, uh...nothing happens, it just bounces. Both servers are running sendmail. Any ideas? AMK4 -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com .3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 .. . . . .Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] load across servers
Has anyone tried installing mailman on one server, in a directory that's NFS mounted on a second machine (so that mailman is essentially available on both servers), and have the load be distributed across both machines? In other words: have the entire mailman config and db files, NFS mounted on server two. Mirror the sendmail aliases files and set the servers up so that for sendmail, one is a master, and one is a backup so that when one server becomes busy (sending mail out), the other can receive mail for mailman, process it, and send mail out as well (instead of having to wait for the primary server to become available)? Theoretically, if that works, one should also be able to do the same for the web interface. Instead of having one single web server to serve, setup a second one (same name, different IP, using round robin) that can do the same. Since the main mailman files are really only on one machine (but visible through NFS on the other) it ought to work, no? Comments? -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! | ~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com .3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 .. . . . .Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Lock files
When does mailman create file locks, and for how long do they exist? (i know they will linger around if the program crashed, but under normal operation, how long?) AMK4 -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. | ~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] REPOST: Lock files
When does mailman create file locks, and for how long do they exist? (i know they will linger around if the program crashed, but under normal operation, how long?) AMK4 -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. | ~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Massive list prevents other lists' posts?
Neil Kandalgaonkar wrote: > Whenever we post a message to the very large list, posts stop > flowing from the others. > > Any suggestions on how to fix this? This might not be mailman's doing. This may be your MTA. If it's too busy spitting out messages, it'll refuse new connections till the load drops. I know sendmail will stop receiving email if the system load gets too high. It will also throttle itself if you have a high volume of messages going through, and again, new messages will not be posted. AMK4 -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple installations almost working
Dave Melton wrote: > I've now got my second installation of Mailman almost working, with > a username and group of "mailmana" (mailmanb and mailmanc will happen > as soon as I get the first one working). Any reason why you're using different UID.GID combinations, instead of the default mailman.mailman? I have mailman running on my server with three different installations (under three different directories), and all of them are running using mailman.mailman. It's a lot easier and poses less headaches as well. My List server: echo $HOME /usr/people/mailman ls -lAF total 20 -rwxr--r-- 1 mailman mailman296 Feb 4 01:53 clear-locks* drwxrwsr-x 19 mailman mailman 4096 Jan 29 13:25 lists.diarist.net/ drwxrwsr-x 19 mailman mailman 4096 Jan 29 13:52 lists.pcraft.net/ drwxrwsr-x 19 mailman mailman 4096 Feb 4 02:11 lists.yeehaw.net/ drwxr-xr-x 13 mailman mailman 4096 Feb 3 11:47 mailman-2.0/ Each one of those 'lists.domain' combination is a separate installation of mailman, running individual lists of their own. All of them under mailman.mailman. All webpages for each individual list server goes to the correct location under each installation. The mainman-2.0 directory is just the source, for future (re)installs. AMK4 -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com .3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 .. . . . .Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Prob2: admn -severe- trouble
Leonardo Boselli wrote: > I forgot the admin password of a list ... > I have however the root one for the machine: how can I reset the > admin password for one list other than destroying the list and > resetting up ? Use your mmsitepass to get into the list and reset the password. AMK4 -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com .3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 .. . . . .Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] changing EVERY member EMAIL ADDRESS?
Dan Mick wrote: > I think he meant "with Mailman", hence the reason for asking it > here on mailman-users; if Mailman has an "aliases" file, it's news > to me. > > > Try using sed on your aliases file. > > sed '[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/g' aliases > aliases.new > > readn aliases.new and make sure it happened the way you want. then put it > into production. However, he can still use that approach to change the email addresses: 1) list_members list_name > aliases 2) sed '[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/g' aliases > aliases.new 3) sync_members -f aliases.new list_name AMK4 -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. |________ ~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] changing EVERY member EMAIL ADDRESS?
I wrote: > However, he can still use that approach to change the email addresses: > > 1) list_members list_name > aliases > 2) sed '[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/g' aliases > aliases.new > 3) sync_members -f aliases.new list_name > > AMK4 I forgot, I would also add the -w=no and -a=no arguments to the sync_members command, unless you want everyone to receive a welcome message (again) and the list_admin receive all the un/subscribe messages as well. (No one has ever figured this out, right? When mass un/subscribing is being done, send the list admin ONE message listing all that have un/subscribed, as opposed to sending one for each and every user) AMK4 -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] changing EVERY member EMAIL ADDRESS?
Teo de Hesselle wrote: > (list_members into a file, > then remove_members, sed the file, then add_members) No need to remove and re-add. That's what sync_members is for. AMK4 -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] stupidest question of all
Zack Exley wrote: > Where is there info about how to instal MailMan? I looked and looked and > couldn't find any instructions. From the mailman tar ball: INSTALL README README.BSD README.EXIM README.LINUX README.NETSCAPE README.QMAIL README.SENDMAIL UPGRADING And there's this list. What more do you want? -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] stupidest question of all
Christopher Kolar wrote: > I run W2K on my office machine, > so downloading and untarring stuff on my server still does not give me > something that I can print right away. Why not? I run Win98, I download, untar the file (through WinZip), open the INSTALL files up in whatever word processor I have, and hit the print button. What's wrong with that? AMK4 -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] stupidest question of all
Christopher Kolar wrote: > When there is a link that says Installation the user expects > information about installation, not about where to find the information > about installation. Click on Installation, then look at the left menu, second section: Installing Mailman. Everything you ever wanted to know about it. AMK4 -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] stupidest question of all
Christopher Kolar wrote: Oh, and I guess people aren't supposed to expect stupid answers to their stupid questions. That depends on several variables. I will admit it's not very clear on the website where the instructions are. You click on one and get presented with, 'read this' and 'make sure you read that too' comments. Continuing links on there would've been nice, but oh well. I'm not in charge of the website. AMK4 -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. . eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA
[Mailman-Users] 3rd REPOST: File Ownerships
Okay, this is now the third time I'm posting this and no one has come up with a reason, nor solution for this yet. My mailman installation has all of the files owned by mailman.mailman, however when you log in through the admin interface, it'll blow up saying that it doesn't have permission to access the request.db and t he only way to fix that is to change the ownership to the httpd daemon (httpd.daemon). However, what the checkdb crontab runs, it blows up because that same file is not owned by mailman.mailman. What gives? AMK4 -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com .3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 .. . . . .Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] [Fwd - Frm: fsf-global-admin@gnu.org, Subj: 1 FSF-Global admin request(s) waiting]
"Bradley M. Kuhn" wrote: > Mar 12 13:56:23 2001 admin(2845): > admin(2845): [- Mailman Version: 2.0.2 -] > admin(2845): [- Traceback --] > admin(2845): Traceback (innermost last): > admin(2845): File "/com/mailer/mailman/scripts/driver", line 96, in run_main > admin(2845): main() > admin(2845): File "/com/mailer/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py", line 88, in main > admin(2845): HandleRequests(mlist, doc, cgidata) > admin(2845): File "/com/mailer/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py", line 271, in >HandleRequests > admin(2845): preserve, forward, forwardaddr) > admin(2845): File "/com/mailer/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 133, in >HandleRequest > admin(2845): status = self.__handlesubscription(data, value, comment) > admin(2845): File "/com/mailer/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 331, in >__handlesubscription > admin(2845): except Errors.MMAlreadyMember: > admin(2845): AttributeError: MMAlreadyMember I believe this was recently discussed, v2.0.2 has a bug in that routine. The routine should be called MMAlreadyAMember (note the 'A' infront of the Member). v2.0.3 has that bug fixed - I think. AMK4 -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! |________ ~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com .3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 .. . . . .Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] [Fwd - Frm: fsf-global-admin@gnu.org, Subj: 1 FSF-Global admin request(s) waiting]
"Bradley M. Kuhn" wrote: > Mar 12 13:56:23 2001 admin(2845): > admin(2845): [- Mailman Version: 2.0.2 -] > admin(2845): [- Traceback --] > admin(2845): Traceback (innermost last): > admin(2845): File "/com/mailer/mailman/scripts/driver", line 96, in run_main > admin(2845): main() > admin(2845): File "/com/mailer/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py", line 88, in main > admin(2845): HandleRequests(mlist, doc, cgidata) > admin(2845): File "/com/mailer/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py", line 271, in >HandleRequests > admin(2845): preserve, forward, forwardaddr) > admin(2845): File "/com/mailer/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 133, in >HandleRequest > admin(2845): status = self.__handlesubscription(data, value, comment) > admin(2845): File "/com/mailer/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 331, in >__handlesubscription > admin(2845): except Errors.MMAlreadyMember: > admin(2845): AttributeError: MMAlreadyMember I believe this was recently discussed, v2.0.2 has a bug in that routine. The routine should be called MMAlreadyAMember (note the 'A' infront of the Member). v2.0.3 has that bug fixed - I think. AMK4 -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! |________ ~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com .3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 .. . . . .Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Cambio de Servidor de listas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Queremos cambiar todo el tema de las listas de servidor, es decir de > máquina física, pero queremos hacerlo con los usuarios directamente, no > tener que meterlos otra vez. > > Sabe alguien como ?? Yeah, you can start by posting in English, not Spanish. :) This question has been posted, and explained before. Moving lists between machines. I moved my lists from one to the other by installing mailman first, and then copying the .db files and templates. And I had to run move_list on each list to fix the paths. DISCLAIMER: I'm not saying your move will go as easy as mine, so don't quote me on that. AMK4 -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Re: More spam :-(
JC Dill wrote: > It shouldn't be that hard for those who write mailing list software to > program and configure their own "user's list" to only accept posts that are > either A) from subscribers or B) have the list product (mailman) mentioned > somewhere in the body of the post. a) There are several automated bots that do subscriptions through a variety of list servers. Nothing will stop a post from coming through if that account is subscribed. b) It is, in the footer and the subject tag AMK4 -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request
"Richard B. Pyne" wrote: > My second, and almost as important, request: Provide a way to specify > the list domain name at the time of list creation instead of having > to change it after creation. This causes confusion for users of > virtual domains. Don't see why you have to do that. I run mailman across three different vdomains and I never have to change the list domain name. It automatically knows what its (correct) vdomain is when it gets created. AMK4 -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com .3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 .. . . . .Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request
"Richard B. Pyne" wrote: > You must be running IP virtual domains rather than named virtual > domains. Nope, they're named virtual domains. > With named vrtual domains, mailing lists are always created defaulted > to the domain where Mailman was originally installed (the machine's > default domain) I run named vdomains, to the same IP. However, I do have a separate installation for each vdomain (though they all run under ~mailman as mailman.mailman) > There are also some minor issues on the list of lists for a domain. > If the domain is set to foo.com and the user browses to > http://www.foo.com/mailman/listinfo they will not see the list but > will if they browse to http://foo.com/mailman/listinfo. That's not mailman's fault, that's your web server's problem. Misconfigured. AMK4 -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. |____ ~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request
"Richard B. Pyne" wrote: > No, not msconfigured. Mailman looks at the FQDN when deciding what > lists to show, not just the second level domain. Changing this > behaviour COULD cause other undesirable effects though. You have mailman installed as 'foo.com', so it never knows about the 'www' part. Mailman is not responsible for how you set it up, it does what you tell it to. If you told it to install as 'www.foo.com', it will also work that way. All of my lists sit on 'lists.vdomain.com' and they work just fine as soon as I add a new list. There is no editing to be done anywhere, no domains to be changed, nothing. None of them conflict with one another, and I can have the same list name under several domains and everything works just fine (as separate lists). The web interface works the same way. I can hit 'abc-list' on any of the vdomains (provided it exists on them) and it would be a different list. Another solution would be to tell your webserver to serve mailman through www.foo.com if mailman only knows about foo.com. Set a pass through proxy. AMK4 -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. | ~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Multiple OUTGOING servers
Can mailman (somehow) make use of multiple OUTGOING mail servers? Mailman is currently installed on one server, and I'd like to distribute the mail load across two, or more mail servers. Ideas anyone? AMK4 -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to unsubscribe users in a group?
"Cordell H. Thomas" wrote: > This is a quick and easy way to unsub list members without a pw. However > since you can only see 30 names at a time it becomes more difficult with > larger than 60 member lists. Anything over 10 members, I won't use the web interface. I dump the list members in a text file, remove the ones that needs to be unsubscribe (just do search and delete), and then run sync_members on the list. Voila. Of course, this is assuming you have access to mailman's command line on the machine. AMK4 -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com .3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 .. . . . .Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Undelivered msgs?
For some unknown reason, mailman 2.0 started doing something rather weird today and I can't figure out why, nor how to fix it. It's been running fine for months, however today I received several messages with the subject of 'Undeliverable Mail', and it pastes almost the entire message in the body. This is what it looks like (sorry for the spam): --- Invalid final delivery userid: jessi@LOCALHOST Original message follows. Received: from battlezone.yeehaw.net [204.144.132.175] by mail.hostronix.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.00) id A953901D6; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:12:03 -0400 Received: from ns1.yeehaw.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by battlezone.yeehaw.net (8.11.3/8.11.3-battle) with ESMTP id f3R09HP278231; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:09:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from host4.apollohosting.com (host4.apollohosting.com [209.239.38.251]) by battlezone.yeehaw.net (8.11.3/8.11.3-battle) with ESMTP id f3R08gP272756 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:08:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cjadudley (iq-ind-as004-86.iquest.net [209.43.54.86]) by host4.apollohosting.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f3R0AWL26260 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:10:32 -0400 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: anathema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Mailer: Poco 2.11 (777) - Registered Version Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 19:15:30 -0500 X-URL: http://www.the-anathema.org In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Journals] Test Msg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by battlezone.yeehaw.net id f3R08gP272756 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=help> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.yeehaw.net/mailman/listinfo/journals>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=subscribe> List-Id: Discussion list for diarists List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.yeehaw.net/mailman/listinfo/journals>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe> It were said <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quoth: >If this was a real emergency, you'd be reading an actual Journals-L [message truncated] Why is this happening? Why does it refer to a user jessi@LOCALHOST? It's been doing it on other users as well. I don't have anyone subscribed with that email, nor do I have anyone locally on the machine that is subscribed to that list. -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. |____________ ~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] [ NEVERMIND ] Undelivered Msgs
Figured it out. -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. | ~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] [ NEVERMIND ] Undelivered Msgs
Steve Pirk wrote: > well? what was it? :-) Not mailman. :) AMK4 -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Big problems with stale lockfiles on large list...
Graham TerMarsch wrote: > I'm finding, though, that the WWW processes are regularly creating stale > locks that sit around and hold everything up. > > Any and all information, tips, pointers, or suggestions are welcome. I have a perl script run every 15 minutes and check for lock files. Any lock file older than 10 minutes gets forcibly removed (by the script). This way my admins don't have to wait till I come around to manually delete them. Keeping in mind that the default timeout for a webserver is generally 5 minutes, the 10 minutes wait period works out great. AMK4 -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] My old mailing list is not working after installation on a new distro.
Daniel Einspanjer wrote: > I think I found the problem. I didn't make a mailman user in my new installation, >used my existing user "mail" and set up a /home/mail/ directory. Unfortunately, when >doing a grep for "/home/mailman/", I see the the mailing list's config.db is still >pointing to the old directory structure. Could anyone tell me how to update that? bin/move_list AMK4 -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] My old mailing list is not working after installation on a new distro.
Daniel Einspanjer wrote: > I tried that, but the move_list program hangs as well. I can only assume it is >reading that bad directory and failing? > I'm going to try to create a symlinked structure and see if it can run then. Any >further ideas would be greatly appreciated. Synlinks have nothing to do with it as it does not try to read the old (bad) directory. If your lists are large, it will sit there for a while. Check your lists first, make sure they're okay: bin/check_db then run the move bin/move_list AMK4 -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Prohibiting Local Access to Archives
Kenneth Jacker wrote: > I'd like to continue web-access to the archives for list members, but > prohibit access to local users on the Mailman "host machine". The fact > that ../mailman/archives/private/ has "drwxrws--x" permissions isn't > sufficient. This isn't a mailman problem, this is a problem with the way you have your setup. For example, all of my users are UID.users, while mailman is mailman.mailman. No one in the users group can read anything in the mailman private directory. No matter how hard they try. They can read the public archives if they so feel like it, but that's it. The mailman documentation tells you to create a separate group for it. There's a reason for that. -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] nomail users
When Mailman sets a user's 'nomail' option, there is no way that user would know, except for realizing after the fact that they're no longer receiving mail. Is there any sort of mechanism (even third party) that can periodically probe those that have 'nomail' set? Maybe once every 48 hours? If successful, just send a note telling them their option has been set to 'nomail' and if they need it changed to get on the subscription page... Something. -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The List-headers are RFC-compliant. Footers are not. > > What RFC says that footers are not allowed? No one said footers are not allowed. Read what was said. Footers aren't RFC compliant, that doesn't mean they're not allowed. List-headers on the other hand need to be compliant (and in this case, are). AMK4 -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions
I want to setup multiple servers running (the same) mailman lists. The ways I can think of doing this is either: Option 1: Setup a master machine with everything on it and export the mailman structure for NFS so the other machines can mount it, and use it. Problem: What happens if the NFS connection dies? Msgs get lost. That's not desirable. Option 2: Have the remote machines mirror the master (through [s]ftp or [s]rcp). This will avoid having to deal with NFS dropping. Problem: The files won't be as up-to-date as the master, unless one starts mirroring continuously, which would be ridiculous. Option 2 looks the most promising, however what's a good interval? 30 minutes? 15? More? Less? And what happens if during the mirroring processes, a new message came in on that remote server? Things can get horribly broken. So I'd have to think about having to suspend the MTA as well while that's going on. I'm open for suggestions. -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions
Chuq Von Rospach wrote: > Before we start building this beast -- why? Load balancing. I prefer having one server running mailman and having all the lists on it, however this means that machine will also get hit pretty hard when several lists get to receive/send messages. Having a cluster of machine that can handle incoming/outgoing msgs would solve this problem. (I know for a fact that (big ass) services like Yahoo do this. If you do a 'nslookup mx1.mail.yahoo.com', you'll get a series of servers returned. Somehow, somewhere, they all should tie back in to one DB somewhere, and I'm only assuming it's done through NFS. But, as you pointed out > Trying to keep the subscriber databases in sync across machines is going to > be problematic. ...yes, I suppose that would be problematic. Short note: I'm ONLY trying to do this for mail. The web interface will still only be on one machine, and be accessible from that one machine. Setting up round-robin for the web server as well now means I'm dealing with two different things. Right now, I want to see IF it is possible, and how it will perform. -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions
Chuq Von Rospach wrote: > And services like yahoo have programmers on staff to write this stuff, and > admins on staff to manage it, and budgets for the hardware, and... Something I don't have. :) That's why I'm trying to go as light as I can, with currently (working) software. > How big are these lists? How many messages a day? How many total e-mails are > you thinking to send out a day? What's the hardware? What's the network and > the pipe? Right now, the single machine running lists is a 200Mhz RISC machine, hosting roughly 30 lists, each one with subscriber base between 1,500 to 5,000 (only about 5 of those lists actually hit the 5,000 mark, the rest are all under 2,500). Each list is generating an average of 20 msgs per hour, most of them being between the hours of 6AM and 9PM. The machine is sitting on a 100BT hub, connected to a T1. I don't have a problem with the bandwidth generated (considering these are small text msgs), however I do have a problem with the system load and the time it takes for messages to be spewed back out because of load. Yes I know, I should probably look into buying a faster machine, however I don't have that luxury (at the moment). I do however have other machines at my disposal that I can use, providing I can tie them in this (main) one. -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! +-------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions
Chuq Von Rospach wrote: > Trying to keep the subscriber databases in sync across machines is going to > be problematic. Tow things I can think off of the top of my head, one being the easiest (maybe). a) NFS or b) If mailman has a way of sending a signal out when something changes on the .db files (or archives? what am I forgetting here?) The remote server could then sync up once they receive this signal. What comes to mind with this last option though is, what happens if something changes on a remote server? Now the master has to sync up... Oy vey! I think I just dug my own grave. -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! +---- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions
Chuq Von Rospach wrote: > And your average delay in delivery is -- how long? Generally, two to six at the most. If I don't clean out the queue because of nasty remote servers not working properly, it can go into a day or two. That's generally when I'll get a phone call because someone hasn't seen their msg gone through yet. > The real problem you're seeing is that Mailman 2.0 is singlethreaded. It > only does one thing at a time. Barry's fixing this for 2.1. If you can hold > on and deal with the delivery delays until then... I'm willing to wait and try, see how much it'll help. > -- going through the > bounce queues can clear up a significant amount of processing time, at very > little work. You just need to spend time watching the queues and logs and > clearing stuff out that gets in the way. I already have to do this. I have sendmail configured so that it holds something in queue for up to 24 hours (instead of the default 5 days). Mailman has been set to shut off delivery after 2 failures (I forgot what the default was). However, even with these two in place, with 20 messages coming in every hour, that starts to clog the queue pretty darned fast. > And -- what's your MTA? Sendmail? How are you configured? What's your batch > size? What are you doing for DNS resolution? I'll bet there are things you > can do to mailman to fix up stuff here, or to your delivery system, to speed > things up... These are all things I'm willing to entertain. You're right, there may be things that I can do now that will help. When I changed DNS resolution from a remote DNS server to localhost, that helped a great deal. When I told sendmail to start using .hoststat, that helped as well (it didn't need to try to resolve every time anymore). Has anyone written an administrator's guide to optimizing mailman? -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! + Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Upgrade & Path Changes
I have a system running a list using an old version MM. We're re-installing MM in a different location and also using v2.0.5. Can I simply copy the ./lists and ./archives directories from the old installation into the new path and run bin/movelist on all the lists? (and fix mail aliases) -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! +---- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Nested MAIL command?
Mailman suddenly started causing these errors, after nothing was changed for months: SYSERR(root): Nested MAIL command: MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> And every time that error pops up, over half of the queue gets mysteriously lost. It's just gone. Help! -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! +------------ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Nested MAIL command?
"Barry A. Warsaw" wrote: > Did somebody upgrade Python out from under you? Maybe a buggy > smtplib.py was installed some place (not that I'm aware of a buggy > smtplib.py ;). Nope. I run the system, and I'm the only one with access to it. And I know it has not been hacked. > /Something's/ obviously changed! The system's been running, untouched, for over 3 months, no problems. It just started showing problems. However, I did a restart on the MTA, and it's working fine again. Go figure. -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] List Stats
Has anyone come up with a way to count the amount of incoming/outgoing msgs on a per-list basis? I have several lists hosted under a domain, and I'd like to be able to tell each administrator how many messages they've received and sent out. Looking at the logs, it applies to the whole domain, not each list. The same applies if I were to look at the MTA's 'mailstats' command. -- W | | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. | ~~~~~~~~~ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. .eFax 248.671.0909 http://www.pcraft.com . 3550 Arapahoe Ave #6 .. . . . . Boulder, CO 80303, USA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] (no subject)
Troyh wrote: > Is there something I'm asking the wrong way? I'm trying to find out how to > setup mailman so that I can have each host have mailling list @ their own > domain instead of everyone being the servers domain.name > > I know how to create vhosts as far as postfix and apache are concerned ( > least I think I do for postfix ) but not with mailman Mailman does not, by default, support that setup. However, there are several folks on this list that have gotten around that (myself included) by doing a number of things. In my case, I have a separate mailman installation for each vhost. Others have been able to run one copy of mailman, for different vhosts. It varies. -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! +-------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] virtual hosting tactic
Rodrigo Borges Pereira wrote: > however, how do you avoid the list administrator from changing the list > preferred domain in the web interface? As far as I know, there's no way to do this, however, in my case, with several domains running off of one server (multiple mailman installations), it does the admin no good to change the domain. If they do, mail will no longer be delivered/send from their list because sendmail will not deliver/send mail from any of the other domains configured. -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! +------------ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] virtual hosting tactic
Rodrigo Borges Pereira wrote: > What i'm interested is in the right steps to use multiple installations of > mailmain for each domain. > If u can give me a "mini-guide", it would save me some time figuring it out > and i'd appreciate that a lot. Just install it like you normally would, into different directories, each one representing a domain. -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! +-------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] cannt access the Admin interface
CJoe wrote: > I was connected to the Admin web interface from home and the > connection was dropped by the server. > Now, I am online again but cannot access the Mailman Admin > interface. > Why is this so and how can I fix it ? When you first accessed the admin interface, a lock file was created. When your connection was dropped, that lock file became stale. Look in the ~mailman/locks folder for any stale locks and remove them. Once you do that, you'll be able to get back to the web interface. AMK4 -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! +-------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and phone bills
Phil Stracchino wrote: > *8-year-old kids* fer crissake know that it doesn't cost any money to > answer a call when the phone rings. This isn't rocket science. Practice your own preaching. "Never assume anything." There are countries where you DO get billed for incoming calls. So will your calling party, even if you don't answer the phone. -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! +------------ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] List members
Tania Rodriguez wrote: > Does any of you know if there's a file where are saved the addresses of the members >of a list??... just like majordomo? List members (and other information) are stored in the 'config.db' file, and you need to use the 'list_members' command to extract them. -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! +------------ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] starting Mailman 2.1a2
"J.D. Bronson" wrote: > I wrote a simple script for Solaris to start mailmain under > /etc/rc2.d/S99mailman Generally, you create a script under /etc/init.d called 'mailman' and you soft link it to the run level: ln -sf /etc/init.d/mailman /etc/rc2.d/S99mailman (for startup) ln -sf /etc/init.d/mailman /etc/rc6.d/S99mailman (for shutdown) [ note: the latter one needs to have a 'stop' clause in the script ] > /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl start I haven't had a chance to look at MM2.1 yet, so I don't know what this (mailmanctl) does yet, however if it's just a script, you may want to make sure it has the proper paths in it. Remember that when the system starts up and runs anything in your /etc/rc*.d directories, it doesn't have any PATH information set. You need to do that manually in your scripts. -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! +------------ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] starting Mailman 2.1a2
"J.D. Bronson" wrote: > I find it easier to just put them in /etc/rc2.d However, when having then run from different runlevels, it's better to have one file (under /etc/init.d) with symlinks to whichever runlevel you need it to run from. > I included the path statements...hmmm. I know it is built fine, as I said - > it will launch MANUALLYjust not at boot up. Manually yes, because it inherits your (user) PATH when you type it in. > Thats the part that I dont understand! With nothing in any error log > ANYWHERE, I dont know how to begin to debug it. Stick echo/print statements in the script, pipe them to /tmp/ or something. After bootup, examine /tmp for a) does the exist? Does it contain any information? If the exists, then the script is run at bootup, if it doesn't, you know it hasn't even been called. > From the looks of this 'mailmanctl' - it starts and stops just like > 'apachectl' from apache web server. Then it should work just fine. -- H | Hi, I'm currently out of my mind. Please leave a message. BP! +-------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving lists to a new server
Mike Barnes wrote: > The base path of the installation changed from /localhome/mailman to > /var/mailman and while we're mostly functional there are errors cropping > up related to the archive paths. After doing some digging and a couple > of recursive greps, I've discovered there is a reference to > /localhome/mailman kept in the config.db file under lists/listname. This is what ./bin/move_list is for: ./bin/move_list -h Move a list to a new directory. What this really does is just update the three archive list attributes public_archive_file_dir, private_archive_file_dir, and archive_directory by recalculating them based on the new Defaults. It then saves the list. Usage: move_list [options] listname Options: --help -h Print this help message and exit. listname must be a valid mailing list name and is required. -- H | "Life is the art of drawing without an eraser." - John Gardner +-------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] why can't people see my lists?
J C Lawrence wrote: > Hostnames are explicitly case insensitive. Mailman flattens the > strings prior to comparison. Example: > > https://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/ > https://WwW.Kanga.Nu/lists/listinfo/ > > Both will report the same page. As for the setting: Um, no. IE6 sees the same page, however Nutscrape 4.78 says no public lists for the second URL. On the second URL, IE6 says (at the top) 'www.kanga.nu Mailing Lists' where Nutscrape says 'WwW.Kanga.Nu Mailing Lists'. I was going to say maybe it's related to the https part of it (not being able to match), but that doesn't make sense either. Something is happening, somewhere... -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +-------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Re: Spam
"T. Glen Haggard" wrote: > I see the Spam mail coming through this list. Is this something that is a > problem with mailman? I am setting things up but I don't want to have to > deal with the Spam or outside post on any of me list. Is there a way to get > rid of these things like limiting the post to subscribers only? Would like > to know before setting up mailman. Yes you can. It's in the main configuration page for each list. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +-------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Re: Forget->Tri-Miracle 3 in 72 hr....
Bob C wrote: > Disclaimer at bottom: > Disclaimer:You Are Are Receiving This Because You Are A Member Of > Mailman.org list-This is not Spam. > You're right, this isn't SPAM (Stuff Posing As Meat). This is Unsolicited Bulk E-Mail, which can be argued with the law to be illegal. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +------------ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Re: Bug in Mailman version 2.0.6
David Moruzzi wrote: > admin(5625): IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: > '/var/lib/mailman/templates/admlogin.txt' This is the actual error. It's not finding the templates. How, or where did you install MM? -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +-------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Re: Configure problem
Larry Chuon wrote: > I successfully installed mailman. Did you also install the crontab, like the INSTALL file tells you to do? You can verify this by logging in as (or su-ing to) the MM user, and typing in 'crontab -l' - you should get a listing of crontabs for that user that triggers MM's qrunner every few minutes. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +------------ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Re: FAQ and help
mailman wrote: > Is there a real FAQ somewhere (not the one on the official site), it's almost >useless? I believe there are several user written FAQs floating around the web. One of those is http://web.aurora.edu/~ckolar/mailman/index.html > Also, how one would get rid of the long list of url (List-Help etc.) ans addresses >sent with all posts (you know : You can't, unless you want to hack the source. Those headers are RFC standard headers (and the topic of removing them has come up before on this list, I think. You may want to scan the archives for answers to this question) -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +------------ Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Re: Problem Reaching Just One List
Torresen Marine Diesel Direct wrote: > Starting a couple of hours ago I could no longer get in to manage ONE of > the lists. When I say get in, I mean that I can not access the Web > interface for that particular list. The server simply churns and churns and > churns but nothing ever comes up on the screen. That list has a stale lock file. Look in the /locks directory and clear out whatever's no longer needed. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +-------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Re: Bug in Mailman version 2.0.6
David Moruzzi wrote: > I use the apt-get install---command in Debian to install the mailman. > > That is the correct path /var/lib/mailman/templates > > These is no admlogin.txtIs Mailman meant to create this file or am I? Mailman installs several files in the templates directory, including admlogin.txt... Perhaps your installation isn't complete, I don't know. I always install from source, as opposed to pre-packaged distributions. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +-------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
