[Mailman-Users] Relaying denied

[BERTHOLD Jean]

Hello,
 
I have a problem to send email from an Microsoft Exchange Server to a Mailman server.
 
1. Several users are subscribed to an Exchange mailing list. then, they can send 
messages on the Exchange list
2. My mailman list is a subscriber to the Exchange mailing list, then a copy of each 
message is sent to the mailman list (for storage...)
3. It is not possible to do that... I receive the following message from the Exchange 
server :
Impossible de contacter le(s) destinataire(s) suivant(s) :
fbms le 29.08.2003 16:55
Vous n'êtes pas autorisé à envoyer de message à ce destinataire. Pour obtenir une 
assistance, contactez votre administrateur système.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 >... Relaying denied

Traduction: cannot contact ... fbms. you are not allowed to send message at fbms... 
Relaying denied.

We migrate our Mail server 1 month ago, from Unix platform to Intel/Microsoft/Exchange 
platform. 
Before our migration, it was possible to send a message from our Unix mail server To 
our mailman server, without additionnal configuration ...

Did you have an idea about this problem ?

 

In advance, thanks for your help and have a nice day !

___

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CH-1001 Lausanne , Switzerland
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It's just selective about who its friends are.


 
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Relaying denied

[BERTHOLD Jean]

Hello Sylvain,

On the mailman server (under Solaris 9), I have a standard configuration for sendmail
Where can I found these conf file ?

I checked all conf file in /etc/mail directory 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # ls
Mail.rc   aliases.dblocal-host-names  main.cf   sendmail.hf
   subsidiary.cf
aliases   helpfile  mailx.rc  sendmail.cf   submit.cf  
   trusted-users


but I did'nt find any configuration about our old mail server.
Do I need to change anything in sendmail.cf or in other ?

I never changed the sendmail configuration when I installed mailman with our old mail 
server.

Thanks for your help !


Jean Berthold


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De : Sylvain Langlade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : mardi, 2. septembre 2003 16:33
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>  denied">[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>  >... Relaying denied

Did you check your MTA conf files regarding IP access to the SMTP server ?
If only one IP or subnet was allowed to pass emails thru your mailman
server, and you change that IP and/or subnet when migrating to a new server,
the mailman server will reject any attempt.

HTH

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Relaying denied

[BERTHOLD Jean]

Hello Sylvain,

220 vanuatu.eos.elro ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.2+Sun/8.12.2; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:52:36 +0200 
(MEST)
HELO pct12046
250 vanuatu.eos.elro Hello pct12046.sila.local [172.16.12.46], pleased to meet you
MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender ok
RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
550 5.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Relaying denied


Effectively, I have a probleme on Sendmail configuration on my mailman server ...

This mailman server was installed when we where under our old domain: eos.elro
our new domain is: sila.local

If I try:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # ls /usr/lib/sendmail
/usr/lib/sendmail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # echo '$=m' | /usr/lib/sendmail -bt -d0.4
Version 8.12.2+Sun
 Compiled with: DNSMAP LDAPMAP LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8
MIME8TO7 NAMED_BIND NDBM NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS
NISPLUS PIPELINING SCANF USERDB XDEBUG
Canonical name: vanuatu.eos.elro
a.k.a.: vanuatu
 UUCP nodename: vanuatu
a.k.a.: [172.16.7.37]
a.k.a.: [127.0.0.1]

 SYSTEM IDENTITY (after readcf) 
  (short domain name) $w = vanuatu
  (canonical domain name) $j = vanuatu.eos.elro
 (subdomain name) $m = eos.elro
  (node name) $k = vanuatu


ADDRESS TEST MODE (ruleset 3 NOT automatically invoked)
Enter  
> eos.elro
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] # 


Do you know how to replace "eos.elro" domain by "sila.local" domain for sendmail ?


Thanks again !


Jean Berthold




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De : Sylvain Langlade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : mercredi, 3. septembre 2003 12:55
À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : RE: [Mailman-Users] Relaying denied


> [EMAIL PROTECTED] # ls
> Mail.rc   aliases.dblocal-host-names  main.cf 
>   sendmail.hf   subsidiary.cf
> aliases   helpfile  mailx.rc  
> sendmail.cf   submit.cf trusted-users

I don't know sendmail enough to give you this info (I'm a happy Postfix
user). Maybe someone else on this list? Have a look at the following :

http://www.sendmail.org/tips/relaying.html


Just to be sure, use telnet to contact your mailman server from the curlprit
machine, and engage a SMTP session :

telnet mailman.server.com 25
<<<
HELO culprit.machine
MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DATA
Subject: test

test
.
QUIT
>>>
If you use some regular FROM and TO address that your mailman server have to
accept, your email should pass along nicely.

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Relaying denied

[BERTHOLD Jean]

Again one precision:

I found in your link:
http://www.sendmail.org/tips/relaying.html

how to allow differents domains by modifying: /etc/mail/access

like that:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # cat access
sila.local  RELAY

Then :
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # makemap hash /etc/mail/access < /etc/mail/access

But the problem persist ...



-Message d'origine-----
De : BERTHOLD Jean 
Envoyé : vendredi, 5. septembre 2003 12:05
À : Sylvain Langlade; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc : BERTHOLD Jean
Objet : RE: [Mailman-Users] Relaying denied


Hello Sylvain,

220 vanuatu.eos.elro ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.2+Sun/8.12.2; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:52:36 +0200 
(MEST)
HELO pct12046
250 vanuatu.eos.elro Hello pct12046.sila.local [172.16.12.46], pleased to meet you
MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender ok
RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
550 5.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Relaying denied


Effectively, I have a probleme on Sendmail configuration on my mailman server ...

This mailman server was installed when we where under our old domain: eos.elro
our new domain is: sila.local

If I try:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # ls /usr/lib/sendmail
/usr/lib/sendmail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # echo '$=m' | /usr/lib/sendmail -bt -d0.4
Version 8.12.2+Sun
 Compiled with: DNSMAP LDAPMAP LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8
MIME8TO7 NAMED_BIND NDBM NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS
NISPLUS PIPELINING SCANF USERDB XDEBUG
Canonical name: vanuatu.eos.elro
a.k.a.: vanuatu
 UUCP nodename: vanuatu
a.k.a.: [172.16.7.37]
a.k.a.: [127.0.0.1]

 SYSTEM IDENTITY (after readcf) 
  (short domain name) $w = vanuatu
  (canonical domain name) $j = vanuatu.eos.elro
 (subdomain name) $m = eos.elro
  (node name) $k = vanuatu


ADDRESS TEST MODE (ruleset 3 NOT automatically invoked)
Enter  
> eos.elro
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] # 


Do you know how to replace "eos.elro" domain by "sila.local" domain for sendmail ?


Thanks again !


Jean Berthold




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De : Sylvain Langlade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : mercredi, 3. septembre 2003 12:55
À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : RE: [Mailman-Users] Relaying denied


> [EMAIL PROTECTED] # ls
> Mail.rc   aliases.dblocal-host-names  main.cf 
>   sendmail.hf   subsidiary.cf
> aliases   helpfile  mailx.rc  
> sendmail.cf   submit.cf trusted-users

I don't know sendmail enough to give you this info (I'm a happy Postfix
user). Maybe someone else on this list? Have a look at the following :

http://www.sendmail.org/tips/relaying.html


Just to be sure, use telnet to contact your mailman server from the curlprit
machine, and engage a SMTP session :

telnet mailman.server.com 25
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
HELO culprit.machine
MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DATA
Subject: test

test
.
QUIT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
If you use some regular FROM and TO address that your mailman server have to
accept, your email should pass along nicely.

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Relaying denied

[BERTHOLD Jean]

Ok,

It seems we have some DNS problems between our old domain name (wich is again 
partially in use)
and our new domain name.

Thanks again for your help and have a nice week-end !

__

Jean Berthold
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CH-1001 Lausanne , Switzerland
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Fax : +41 (0)21 341 20 49
E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

...Unix is like a wigwam - no windows, no gates, apache inside...




-Message d'origine-
De : BERTHOLD Jean 
Envoyé : vendredi, 5. septembre 2003 12:27
À : Sylvain Langlade; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc : BERTHOLD Jean
Objet : RE: [Mailman-Users] Relaying denied


Again one precision:

I found in your link:
http://www.sendmail.org/tips/relaying.html

how to allow differents domains by modifying: /etc/mail/access

like that:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # cat access
sila.local  RELAY

Then :
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # makemap hash /etc/mail/access < /etc/mail/access

But the problem persist ...



-Message d'origine-
De : BERTHOLD Jean 
Envoyé : vendredi, 5. septembre 2003 12:05
À : Sylvain Langlade; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc : BERTHOLD Jean
Objet : RE: [Mailman-Users] Relaying denied


Hello Sylvain,

220 vanuatu.eos.elro ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.2+Sun/8.12.2; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:52:36 +0200 
(MEST)
HELO pct12046
250 vanuatu.eos.elro Hello pct12046.sila.local [172.16.12.46], pleased to meet you
MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender ok
RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
550 5.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Relaying denied


Effectively, I have a probleme on Sendmail configuration on my mailman server ...

This mailman server was installed when we where under our old domain: eos.elro
our new domain is: sila.local

If I try:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # ls /usr/lib/sendmail
/usr/lib/sendmail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # echo '$=m' | /usr/lib/sendmail -bt -d0.4
Version 8.12.2+Sun
 Compiled with: DNSMAP LDAPMAP LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8
MIME8TO7 NAMED_BIND NDBM NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS
NISPLUS PIPELINING SCANF USERDB XDEBUG
Canonical name: vanuatu.eos.elro
a.k.a.: vanuatu
 UUCP nodename: vanuatu
a.k.a.: [172.16.7.37]
a.k.a.: [127.0.0.1]

 SYSTEM IDENTITY (after readcf) 
  (short domain name) $w = vanuatu
  (canonical domain name) $j = vanuatu.eos.elro
 (subdomain name) $m = eos.elro
  (node name) $k = vanuatu


ADDRESS TEST MODE (ruleset 3 NOT automatically invoked)
Enter  
> eos.elro
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] # 


Do you know how to replace "eos.elro" domain by "sila.local" domain for sendmail ?


Thanks again !


Jean Berthold




-Message d'origine-
De : Sylvain Langlade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : mercredi, 3. septembre 2003 12:55
À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : RE: [Mailman-Users] Relaying denied


> [EMAIL PROTECTED] # ls
> Mail.rc   aliases.dblocal-host-names  main.cf 
>   sendmail.hf   subsidiary.cf
> aliases   helpfile  mailx.rc  
> sendmail.cf   submit.cf trusted-users

I don't know sendmail enough to give you this info (I'm a happy Postfix
user). Maybe someone else on this list? Have a look at the following :

http://www.sendmail.org/tips/relaying.html


Just to be sure, use telnet to contact your mailman server from the curlprit
machine, and engage a SMTP session :

telnet mailman.server.com 25
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
HELO culprit.machine
MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DATA
Subject: test

test
.
QUIT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
If you use some regular FROM and TO address that your mailman server have to
accept, your email should pass along nicely.

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[Mailman-Users] How to purge correctly old messages ?

[BERTHOLD Jean]

Hello,

Please, I have this big archive:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # pwd
/usr/local/mailman/archives/private
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # du -sh etrans*
 2.4G   etrans-echanges
 645M   etrans-echanges.mbox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # 


[EMAIL PROTECTED] # pwd
/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/etrans-echanges
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # du -sh database
 903M   database
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # 


How to remove the oldest messages correctly ?


For example, is it sufficient to only delete files under:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # pwd
/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/etrans-echanges
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # du -sh 20030625*
 5.9M   20030625
 4.1M   20030625.txt
 120K   20030625.txt.gz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # 


Or do I need delete related files under:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # pwd  
/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/etrans-echanges/database
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # du -sh 20030625*
 5.9M   20030625-article
  12K   20030625-author
  10K   20030625-date
  15K   20030625-subject
  10K   20030625-thread
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # 



And after the previous delete , is this file will be updated automatiquely:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] # pwd
/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/etrans-echanges.mbox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # ls
etrans-echanges.mbox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # du -sh *
 645M   etrans-echanges.mbox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # 


Is there somewhere a script for automatic purge ? By date criteria ...

I cannot find documentation about that ...


Thanks for your help and have a nice day



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[Mailman-Users] How to purge correctly old messages ?

[BERTHOLD Jean]

Hello,

-- Please, I have this big archive:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # pwd
/usr/local/mailman/archives/private
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # du -sh etrans*
 2.4G   etrans-echanges
 645M   etrans-echanges.mbox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # 


[EMAIL PROTECTED] # pwd
/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/etrans-echanges
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # du -sh database
 903M   database
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # 


-- How to remove the oldest messages correctly ?
-- For example, is it sufficient to only delete files under:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # pwd
/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/etrans-echanges
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # du -sh 20030625*
 5.9M   20030625
 4.1M   20030625.txt
 120K   20030625.txt.gz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # 


-- Or do I need delete related files under:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # pwd  
/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/etrans-echanges/database
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # du -sh 20030625*
 5.9M   20030625-article
  12K   20030625-author
  10K   20030625-date
  15K   20030625-subject
  10K   20030625-thread
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # 

-- And after the previous delete , is this file will be updated automatiquely:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] # pwd
/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/etrans-echanges.mbox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # ls
etrans-echanges.mbox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # du -sh *
 645M   etrans-echanges.mbox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # 


-- Is there somewhere a script for automatic purge ? By date criteria ...
-- I cannot find documentation about that ...


Thanks for your help and have a nice day


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Administrateur Unix & Oracle
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RE: [Mailman-Users] How to purge correctly old messages ?

[BERTHOLD Jean]

Hello John,

Thanks for your help, it is exactly what I need !

But:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # pwd
/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/etrans-echanges.mbox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # ls -l
total 1327072
-rw-rw-r--   1 mailman  mailman  679109463 Jan 29 14:40 etrans-echanges.mbox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # vi etrans-echanges.mbox 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # vi etrans-echanges.mbox
"etrans-echanges.mbox" Tmp file too large


  
  


  
  


  
~
~
~
~
~
~
~
~
~
~
~
~

 Tmp file too large
:

I tried to add more swap, but unsuccesfully ...


[EMAIL PROTECTED] # mkfile 1000M /export/swapfile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # swap -a /export/swapfile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # swap -l
swapfile dev  swaplo blocks   free
/dev/md/dsk/d10 85,10 16 1052624 1045120
/export/swapfile  -   16 2047984 2047984
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # 

Result was the same as previous:

 Tmp file too large

One more question:
--

how to edit this big file ?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # pwd
/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/etrans-echanges.mbox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # du -sh *.mbox
 648M   etrans-echanges.mbox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # 


Thanks again for your help


Jean




-Message d'origine-
De : John DeCarlo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : jeudi, 29. janvier 2004 14:41
À : BERTHOLD Jean
Cc : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : Re: [Mailman-Users] How to purge correctly old messages ?


Jean,

BERTHOLD Jean wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] # pwd
> /usr/local/mailman/archives/private
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] # 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] # du -sh etrans*
>  2.4G   etrans-echanges
>  645M   etrans-echanges.mbox
>...
> -- How to remove the oldest messages correctly ?

The recommended method to reduce or change your archive is to edit the 
file .../private/etrans-echanges.mbox/etrans-echanges.mbox and remove 
the older messages from the file.

Once you have done this, you can run
   /usr/local/mailman/bin/arch --wipe etrans-echange

You can also try and figure out which message in the mbox file you want 
to start archiving (instead of deleting them from the file) and run

  .../bin/arch --start=N --wipe etrans-echange

At least this should get you started.

-- 

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[Mailman-Users] Memory error when running arch

[BERTHOLD Jean]

Hello James,
 
On Fri Jul 27 14:51:49 EDT 2001  You posted the message: [Mailman-Users] Memory error 
when running arch.
 
Actually, I have exactly the same problem.
 
My OS is Solaris 9 on a Sunblade V100 server with 1 GB RAM.
 
Did you receive a response at your problem ?
 
Thanks and have a nice day
 
 
Jean Berthold
 
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[Mailman-Users] SOLVED: How to purge correctly old messages ?

[BERTHOLD Jean]

Hello John,

I tried your command line and now it is ok.

I tried different solutions for editing large file under vi:

1. Add swap file (it is not working)
2. modify temporary storage for vi: set directory=/... (it is not working)
3. split my big file in several files it is the best solution

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # split -b 50m etrans-echanges.mbox 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # ls -l x*
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman  52428800 Feb  1 15:30 xaa
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman  52428800 Feb  1 15:24 xab
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman  52428800 Feb  1 15:24 xac
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman  52428800 Feb  1 15:24 xad
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman  52428800 Feb  1 15:25 xae
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman  52428800 Feb  1 15:25 xaf
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman  52428800 Feb  1 15:25 xag
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman  52428800 Feb  1 15:25 xah
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman65510 Feb  1 15:56 xai
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman  52428800 Feb  1 15:25 xaj
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman  52428800 Feb  1 15:25 xak
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman  52428800 Feb  1 15:25 xal
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman  52428800 Feb  1 15:26 xam
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman  1810704 Feb  1 15:26 xan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # 

After this split command it was possible to remove what I want.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # cat xai xaj xak xal xam xan > TMP.mbox


[EMAIL PROTECTED] # du -sh *mbox
 202M   TMP.mbox
 652M   etrans-echanges.mbox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # 

and mv TMP to etrans...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # ../bin/arch --wipe etrans-echanges
...
...
...
Updating HTML for article 2604
Updating HTML for article 2605
Updating HTML for article 2606
Updating HTML for article 2607
Updating HTML for article 2608
Updating HTML for article 2609
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "../bin/arch", line 187, in ?
main()
  File "../bin/arch", line 177, in main
archiver.close()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 304, in close
self.update_dirty_archives()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 518, in 
update_dirty_archives
self.update_archive(i)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 1032, in update_archive
self.__super_update_archive(archive)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 426, in update_archive
self._update_thread_index(archive, arcdir)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 480, in 
_update_thread_index
self.update_article(arcdir, article, a1, a3)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 1223, in update_article
f.write(article.as_html())
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 426, in as_html
lang=self._lang, mlist=self._mlist)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 195, in quick_maketext
return Utils.uncanonstr(text, lang)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 758, in uncanonstr
u = unicode(s, charset)
MemoryError


Do you have an idea about this error ?

if I run my browser, only the two latest day of February are dislplayed:

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télécharger les archives complètes ( 212 MB ). 

Archive Vue par: Version téléchargeable 
2 February 2004: [ Thread ] [ Sujet ] [ Auteur ] [ Date ]  [ Gzip'd Text 2 KB ] 
1 February 2004: [ Thread ] [ Sujet ] [ Auteur ] [ Date ]  [ Gzip'd Text 24 KB ] 


however I kept archives from 20031031 (31 October 2003) to 2 February 2004.
I would like to display all messages between these dates...


Are my files too big ? 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # du -sh etrans*
1015M   etrans-echanges
 203M   etrans-echanges.mbox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # 



Thnks again

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-Message d'origine-
De : John DeCarlo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : jeudi, 29. janvier 2004 16:07
À : BERTHOLD Jean
Cc : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : Re: [Mailman-Users] How to purge correctly old messages ?


Jean,

BERTHOLD Jean wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] # pwd
> /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/etrans-echanges.mbox
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] # ls -l
> total 1327072
> -rw-rw-r--   1 mailman  mailman  679109463 Jan 29 14:40 etrans-echanges.mbox
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] # vi etrans-echanges.mbox   
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] # vi etrans-echanges.mbox
> "etrans-echanges.mbox" Tmp file too large

>> You can also try and figure out which message in the mbox file you want 
>> to start a

RE: [Mailman-Users] Memory error when running arch

[BERTHOLD Jean]

Hello,

Finally, it was an swap problem.

I made a mistake, my SunFire as only 256 MB RAM ...

I added more swap and now everything work fine !

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # mkfile 2000m /export/home/swapfile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # swap -a /export/home/swapfile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # swap -l
swapfile dev  swaplo blocks   free
/dev/md/dsk/d10 85,10 16 1052624 996112
/export/home/swapfile  -   16 4095984 4095984
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # 

../bin/arch --wipe etrans-echanges
...
...
Updating HTML for article 3849
Updating HTML for article 3850
Pickling archive state into 
/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/etrans-echanges/pipermail.pck


My archive have now this size:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # du -sh etrans*
 766M   etrans-echanges
 204M   etrans-echanges.mbox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # 

Is it too big again ?

Before my purge they had this size:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # du -sh etrans*
 2.4G   etrans-echanges
 652M   etrans-echanges.mbox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # 

:-(

Thanks to all for your help and have a nice day !


Jean



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-Message d'origine-
De : Jon Carnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyà : lundi, 2. fÃvrier 2004 19:42
à : BERTHOLD Jean
Cc : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : Re: [Mailman-Users] Memory error when running arch


Unfortunately the arch program is not optimized for real-world use and
tries to load the whole mbox archive into RAM.  Not a clever thing to
do.  One day we'll have to re-write it so that it is less memory
intensive.  For now you can try using the arbitrary numbering scheme to
run the arch program - and split the task into several smaller ones, or
you can edit your mbox archive and dump some of the earlier emails.

I like to copy off the mbox at the end of the year and start from a
fresh one in January.  I generally have my archives set so that  they do
a monthly grouping.  Once you cross into the new month, there is no
reason to keep the older emails from younger months - just don't delete
the html archives for those months.

Take care - Jon Carnes

On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 05:39, BERTHOLD Jean wrote:
> Hello James,
>  
> On Fri Jul 27 14:51:49 EDT 2001  You posted the message: [Mailman-Users] Memory 
> error when running arch.
>  
> Actually, I have exactly the same problem.
>  
> My OS is Solaris 9 on a Sunblade V100 server with 1 GB RAM.
>  
> Did you receive a response at your problem ?
>  
> Thanks and have a nice day
>  
> 
> Jean Berthold
>  
> EOS Holding
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RE: [Mailman-Users] How to purge correctly old messages ?

[BERTHOLD Jean]

Yes, you are right ...

at first I tried to add swap
After that I tried to modify vi settings: set directory=/another_dir

it was not sufficient ...

Finally I used the split command:

split -b 25m file.mbox

result file1 file2 file3 ...

edit files to delete old emails

cat file1 filefile3 > new.mbox

and run arch command on this new.mbox file
Now, everything work fine !

Question: I tried to split my big mbox file into 50 MB file and 50 MB was too large
(even with set directory=/big_space_directory)

Is it an vi limit or an system limit ?


Thanks and have a nice day !

Jean


-Message d'origine-
De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : mardi, 3. février 2004 13:31
À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : RE: [Mailman-Users] How to purge correctly old messages ?



First, increasing the size of your swap won't solve the problem with vi.  
It needs disk space, probably in your /tmp directory.

If you just want to edit this file without reconfiguring your system for
vi, you could try using emacs.  I use both vi and emacs every day, but
prefer emacs for most things.  Unless you specifically chose not to
install it, emacs should already be installed on your system.  From a
terminal window, just do "emacs [filespec] &".  You don't need to know
the keyboard commands for emacs either.  You can just highlight text 
by dragging the mouse over it, then use menus ("Edit | Cut" and ("File | 
Save Current Buffer") to work on your big file.


hth,
ken


At 15:21 (UTC+0100) on Thu, 29 Jan 2004 BERTHOLD Jean said:

=Hello John,
=
=Thanks for your help, it is exactly what I need !
=
=But:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # pwd
=/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/etrans-echanges.mbox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # ls -l
=total 1327072
=-rw-rw-r--   1 mailman  mailman  679109463 Jan 29 14:40 etrans-echanges.mbox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # vi etrans-echanges.mbox 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # vi etrans-echanges.mbox
="etrans-echanges.mbox" Tmp file too large
=
=
=  
=  
=
=
=  
=  
=
=
=  
=~
=~
=~
=~
=~
=~
=~
=~
=~
=~
=~
=~
=
= Tmp file too large
=:
=
=I tried to add more swap, but unsuccesfully ...
=
=
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # mkfile 1000M /export/swapfile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # swap -a /export/swapfile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # swap -l
=swapfile dev  swaplo blocks   free
=/dev/md/dsk/d10 85,10 16 1052624 1045120
=/export/swapfile  -   16 2047984 2047984
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # 
=
=Result was the same as previous:
=
= Tmp file too large
=
=One more question:
=--
=
=how to edit this big file ?
=
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # pwd
=/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/etrans-echanges.mbox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # du -sh *.mbox
= 648M   etrans-echanges.mbox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # 
=
=
=Thanks again for your help
=
=
=Jean
=
=
=
=
=-Message d'origine-
=De : John DeCarlo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
=Envoyé : jeudi, 29. janvier 2004 14:41
=À : BERTHOLD Jean
=Cc : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
=Objet : Re: [Mailman-Users] How to purge correctly old messages ?
=
=
=Jean,
=
=BERTHOLD Jean wrote:
=> [EMAIL PROTECTED] # pwd
=> /usr/local/mailman/archives/private
=> [EMAIL PROTECTED] # 
=> [EMAIL PROTECTED] # du -sh etrans*
=>  2.4G   etrans-echanges
=>  645M   etrans-echanges.mbox
=>...
=> -- How to remove the oldest messages correctly ?
=
=The recommended method to reduce or change your archive is to edit the 
=file .../private/etrans-echanges.mbox/etrans-echanges.mbox and remove 
=the older messages from the file.
=
=Once you have done this, you can run
=   /usr/local/mailman/bin/arch --wipe etrans-echange
=
=You can also try and figure out which message in the mbox file you want 
=to start archiving (instead of deleting them from the file) and run
=
=  .../bin/arch --start=N --wipe etrans-echange
=
=At least this should get you started.
=
=


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RE: [Mailman-Users] Compilation under Solaris 9 /Sparc problems....

[BERTHOLD Jean]

Hello,

I have had the same problem with Solaris Release 4/03 on a Sunfire v100 
here is "my solution" (provided by the mailman list, thanks ! :-)


SOLUTION:
-
crle  -u  -l /usr/local/lib

OR:

export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib

et try to recompile python from the sources

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-Message d'origine-
De : donnie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : jeudi, 12. février 2004 04:46
À : WC Jones
Cc : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : Re: [Mailman-Users] Compilation under Solaris 9 /Sparc
problems




WC Jones wrote:

>>Have anyone compiled/installed MailMan under Solaris 9/Ultra-5/GCC3.3???
>>
>>
>>
>
>Yes, this past weekend on an Ultra 10 w/Sol9
>
>
>
>  
>
>>Here is the result of an error msg during compilation::
>>
>>
>>Traceback (most recent call last):
>>File "bin/update", line 47, in ?
>>  from Mailman import Utils
>>File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 35, in ?
>>  import cgi
>>File "/usr/local/lib/python2.2/cgi.py", line 39, in ?
>>  import urllib
>>File "/usr/local/lib/python2.2/urllib.py", line 26, in ?
>>  import socket
>>File "/usr/local/lib/python2.2/socket.py", line 41, in ?
>>  from _socket import *
>>ImportError: No module named _socket
>>*** Error code 1
>>make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `update'
>>bash-2.05#
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>Yes - are you using the pythin from sunfreeware.com ???
>

Yes, I am...it seemed the right thing to do...

>
>Try to just build python from scratch.
>  
>
hmm..is the python build at SunFreeware incorrect...??

>
>I was going to attach some ramblings from my recent successful build - but I 
>seem to have mis placed them - Ill try to recreate from memory.
>
>Gr.  Sorry.
>
>Sx
>  
>
..any help/assistance is greatly appreciated...

del
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[Mailman-Users] Email arrives after a long delay

[BERTHOLD Jean]

Hello,
 
I have a configuration problem.
All my lists works correctly excepted that the emails arrives with a delay of 
10 minutes on the mailman server.
All email are forwarded from our MS Exchange server, but email are received on 
my mailman server with 10 minutes late. 
A first, I asked to our Exchange administrator, In the Exchange Mail mail queue 
we can see that emails are in wait during at least 10 minutes.
Exchange administrator can't explain that...
 
On my mailman server if I check the logs:
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   # pwd
/usr/local/mailman/logs
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   # tail -f post
...
Dec 06 12:49:49 2006 (4144) post to fpbg-dtr from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 , size=1880, message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 >, success

Dec 06 13:08:18 2006 (4144) post to fpbg-dtr from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 , size=1875, message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 >, success
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   # pwd
/usr/local/mailman/logs
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   # tail -f smtp
...
Dec 06 12:49:49 2006 (4144) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  > 
smtp to fpbg-dtr for 1 recips, completed in 0.318 seconds

And finally, the sendmail log:
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   # pwd
/var/log
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   # tail -f syslog
...
Dec  6 12:48:46 bahamas sendmail[16562]: [ID 801593 mail.warning] 
kB6BcXf1016562: collect: premature EOM: unexpected close
Dec  6 12:48:46 bahamas sendmail[16562]: [ID 801593 mail.notice] 
kB6BcXf1016562: collect: unexpected close on connection from 
swexch01lpro.sila.local, sender=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]  >
Dec  6 12:48:46 bahamas sendmail[16562]: [ID 801593 mail.info] kB6BcXf1016562: 
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]  >, size=1217, class=0, 
nrcpts=1, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA-v4, relay=swexch01lpro.sila.local 
[172.25.2.76]
Dec  6 12:49:46 bahamas sendmail[16721]: [ID 801593 mail.info] kB6BnkRQ016721: 
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]  >, size=1315, class=0, 
nrcpts=1, msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]  >, proto=ESMTP, 
daemon=MTA-v4, relay=swexch01lpro.sila.local [172.25.2.76]
Dec  6 12:49:47 bahamas sendmail[16722]: [ID 801593 mail.info] kB6BnkRQ016721: 
to="|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post fpbg-dtr", ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 > (1/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, 
mailer=prog, pri=31536, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
Dec  6 12:49:49 bahamas sendmail[16725]: [ID 801593 mail.info] kB6Bnnn6016725: 
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]  >, size=1880, class=-30, 
nrcpts=1, msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]  >, proto=ESMTP, 
daemon=MTA-v4, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1]
...
Dec  6 13:08:20 bahamas sendmail[17179]: [ID 801593 mail.info] kB6C8Kge017177: 
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]  >, delay=00:00:00, 
xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=176820, relay=mta0.eosholding.ch. 
[193.8.222.23], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (Ok: queued as 360A520C03B)
Dec  6 13:08:21 bahamas sendmail[17180]: [ID 801593 mail.info] kB6C8LhF017180: 
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]  >, size=2777, class=-30, 
nrcpts=1, msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]  >, proto=ESMTP, 
daemon=MTA-v4, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1]
Dec  6 13:08:21 bahamas sendmail[17182]: [ID 801593 mail.info] kB6C8LhF017180: 
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]  >, delay=00:00:00, 
xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=176777, relay=mta0.eosholding.ch. 
[193.8.222.23], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (Ok: queued as 5E95B20C053)

As you can see, there is some warning with sendmail ( [ID 801593 mail.warning] 
kB6BcXf1016562: collect: premature EOM: unexpected close )
 
My configuration is the following:
--
Processes runing for mailman
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # ps -cafe | grep sendmail
   smmsp  5183 1   TS  59   Nov 15 ?0:06 /usr/lib/sendmail -Ac -q15m
root  5181 1   TS  59   Nov 15 ?0:21 /usr/lib/sendmail -bd -q15m
[EMAIL PROTECTED] # ps -cafe | grep mailman
 mailman  4149 13070   TS  59   Nov 15 ?0:07 /usr/local/bin/python 
/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s
 mailman  4150 13070   TS  59   Nov 15 ?0:01 /usr/local/bin/python 
/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -
 mailman  4147 13070   TS  12   Nov 15 ?   42:21 /usr/local/bin/python 
/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s
 mailman  4145 13070   TS  52   Nov 15 ?6:24 /usr/local/bin/python 
/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0:
 mailman  4146 13070   TS  59   Nov 15 ?0:20 /usr/local/bin/python 
/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=BounceRunner:0:1 
 mailman  4151 13070   TS  59   Nov 15 ?0:08 /usr/local/bin/python 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Email arrives after a long delay

[BERTHOLD Jean]

Hello Brad,

First, many thanks for your long, useful and complete response (whaou...)
I'm not a email specialist but when I seen the message:

> [ID 801593 mail.warning] kB6BcXf1016562: collect: premature EOM:
>  unexpected close )

I Think you are true, there is a problem on our Exchange server...

The second problem is now to convince our Exchange administrator... 
But I think your response will give them a good idea about the problem... :-)

Thanks again for your help and have a nice week-end

Jean


-Message d'origine-
De : Brad Knowles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Envoyé : jeudi, 7. décembre 2006 17:52
À : BERTHOLD Jean; mailman-users@python.org
Cc : BERTHOLD Jean
Objet : Re: [Mailman-Users] Email arrives after a long delay

At 9:34 AM +0100 12/7/06, BERTHOLD Jean wrote:

>  I have a configuration problem.
>  All my lists works correctly excepted that the emails arrives with
>  a delay of 10 minutes on the mailman server.

In the world of Internet e-mail, ten minutes is nothing.  In fact, 
that's pretty damn fast.

>  Dec 06 12:49:49 2006 (4144) post to fpbg-dtr from
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1880,
>  message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED],
>  success
>
>  Dec 06 13:08:18 2006 (4144) post to fpbg-dtr from
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1875,
>  message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED],
>  success

Okay, so here we have two different messages coming into Mailman from 
you.  So that we can make it easy to identify them, let's call them 
"630" and "634", which comes from the last three digits of the 
Message-ID field before the at-symbol.

>  Dec 06 12:49:49 2006 (4144)
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp to
>  fpbg-dtr for 1 recips, completed in 0.318 seconds

Okay, so we see that 630 came into Mailman from the MTA at 12:49:49 
and went back out to the MTA in less than a second.  That's good.

>  Dec  6 12:48:46 bahamas sendmail[16562]: [ID 801593 mail.warning]
>  kB6BcXf1016562: collect: premature EOM: unexpected close
>  Dec  6 12:48:46 bahamas sendmail[16562]: [ID 801593 mail.notice]
>  kB6BcXf1016562: collect: unexpected close on connection from
>  swexch01lpro.sila.local, sender=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Dec  6 12:48:46 bahamas sendmail[16562]: [ID 801593 mail.info]
>  kB6BcXf1016562: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=1217,
>  class=0, nrcpts=1, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA-v4,
>  relay=swexch01lpro.sila.local [172.25.2.76]

These are signs that your Exchange server is screwing up the SMTP protocol.

>  Dec  6 12:49:46 bahamas sendmail[16721]: [ID 801593 mail.info]
>  kB6BnkRQ016721: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=1315,
>  class=0, nrcpts=1,
>  msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA-v4, relay=swexch01lpro.sila.local [172.25.2.76]

Okay, so here is 630 coming into the system from Exchange.  Note that 
the sendmail queue-id in this case is kB6BnkRQ016721.  This is how we 
tie other log entries together back to this same message -- by the 
sendmail queue-id.

>  Dec  6 12:49:47 bahamas sendmail[16722]: [ID 801593 mail.info]
>  kB6BnkRQ016721: to="|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post fpbg-dtr",
>  ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (1/0), delay=00:00:01,
>  xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=prog, pri=31536, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent

Okay, so here is sendmail saying that it has now sent 630 to Mailman. 
We know that it's what we're calling message 630 because we see the 
same sendmail queue-id, namely kB6BnkRQ016721.

Note that Mailman says that it finished getting this message about 
two seconds later (at 12:49:49), and that Mailman then sends that 
message back to the MTA in less than a second (still 12:49:49).

>  Dec  6 12:49:49 bahamas sendmail[16725]: [ID 801593 mail.info]
>  kB6Bnnn6016725: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  size=1880, class=-30, nrcpts=1,
>  msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA-v4, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1]

Okay, so here is 630 having come back out of Mailman, and going into 
the MTA to be delivered to the recipient.  Note that the sendmail 
queue-id is now kB6Bnnn6016725, because as far as sendmail is 
concerned this is a totally different message.  Sendmail doesn't know 
that the content is exactly the same, and that what has happened is 
that the message has come through sendmail, into Mailman, and then 
back out again.  Sendmail sees the inbound and outbound legs as being 
two totally separate messages.

Any further delay is totally and completely out of the hands of 
Mailman.  There is absolutely nothing that we can do to help.

>  Dec  6 13:08:20 bahamas sendmail[17179]: [ID 801593 mail.info]
>  kB6C8Kge017177: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=00:00:00,
>  xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=176820, relay=mta0.eosholding.ch.
>  [193.8.222.23], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (Ok: queued as 360A520C03B)

Dunno what message this is, but it doesn't look l