Re: [Mailman-Users] DKIM Failures cause posts from gmail users to not be relayed to the list
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 10:04:14 -0400 Barry Warsaw ba...@list.org wrote: Hello Barry, FWIW, lists.debian.org does not run Mailman. Fair enough. Seems to me to be less likely that Peter's problem is the same, as other list owners of mailman run lists would probably be reporting similar errors. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Sign away your life Tin Soldiers - Stiff Little Fingers pgpkvEgxFw_MT.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] DKIM Failures cause posts from gmail users to not be relayed to the list
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 13:21:58 + Peter Bossley p...@bossley.me wrote: Hello Peter, mailing lists need to work properly as well. Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas on why the Munge setting didn't seem to have an impact? I'm far from being an expert regarding DKIM, DKMS and mailman, but what I can say is this; *All* lists run from list.debian.org are to have their footers turned off because of valid DKIM signature breakage. Maybe this is an option you could also explore. See https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/08/msg3.html for the announcement. Sadly, very little in the way of details, but the poster of the message may be able to help you. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Drums quite good, bass is too loud, and I can't hear the words Sound Of The Suburbs - Members pgp1sE7iDWFNB.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] I'd prefer clients had collapsing features, not top-post; do away with mailing list digests
On Thu, 09 Apr 2015 08:56:21 -0700 Carl Zwanzig c...@tuunq.com wrote: Hello Carl, (As I've opined before, IME many people consider what we might call inline posting to be bottom posting. I follow language that usage.) More and more these days, on many mailing lists, I see *real* bottom posting(1); Several screens of quoted text below which is added a word or two of reply. It's got to the stage for me that, when I see emails, the first thing I check is the scroll bar. If that indicates more than two screens of text, I simply ignore it - it's rare indeed that, on a mailing list, an email worth reading is that long. (1) Possibly as a result of people misusing the term when they really mean in-line or interpolated posting. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Buy some love at the five and dime You Have Placed A Chill In My Heart - Eurythmics pgpRE5L1Gs7sU.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Security patch and Mailman 2.1.20 to be released on 31 March
On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 13:24:25 +0100 Roland Miyamoto roland.miyam...@gmx.net wrote: Hello Roland, I am running Mailman 2.1.15 under Debian 7. Will the fix be included in the usual repository updates? I can't speak as an authority on either Mailman of Debian, only as a user, but security updates are usually ported to Debian stable (currently Wheezy/7) fairly quickly. The Debian Security Announcement mailing list details updates/patches. It's a fairly low traffic, announcement only list: debian-security-announce-requ...@lists.debian.org?subject=subscribe -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Bet you thought you knew what I was about Problem - Sex Pistols pgpYWybzwC8UY.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] The right way to reply to a mailing list
On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 13:39:00 +0900 Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote: Hello Stephen, Usenet over UUCP via 300 baud modems on backbone servers with 5MB disks.[1] Same went for FTNs, etc. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent I'd hate to look into those eyes and see an ounce of pain Sweet Child O'Mine - Guns 'N' Roses pgpdhulsT1ReJ.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] CC pruning: does it work?
On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 13:35:52 +0900 Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote: Hello Stephen, Does this actually work? In practice, I get the feeling that a large minority at least unsets nodupes. XEmacs lists default to nodupes, I always turn NoDupes off. The reason being that I *want* the list copy, but *not* the personal copy of the email(1). IOW, the complete opposite of what NoDupes does. Obviously, there is no way that MailMan can achieve this. (1) The personal copy often fails to get filtered to the relevant folder because of missing headers, change in Subject line, etc. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent People stare like they've seen a ghost Titanic (My Over) Reaction - 999 pgpY9TuZ4bx8z.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] The right way to reply to a mailing list
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:52:19 -0400 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Hello Tanstaafl, On 3/19/2015 6:47 PM, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote: In many mail user agents, when you press the Reply button the program will analyze the headers, determine that the post being replied to came from a list and offer a Reply to List option in addition to a simple reply, which generally goes privately to the original poster. I'd really like to know which email user agents really do this. Claws-Mail has the option(1) to reply to list when the relevant headers are present. Also, mailing list folders can be set up so spurious To's and Cc's are avoided. (1) Can be (un)set by the user. Most set it to on because, well, why wouldn't you? -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Bet you think you're king but you're really a pawn When You're Young - The Jam pgp30lcDDZ6d8.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC and Bellsouth, etc.
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 20:31:25 +0200 jdd jdani...@free.fr wrote: Hello jdd, (... why people can't use they ISP's mail?) In case that's not a rhetorical question: Because every time you change provider, you would have to change email address too. When you're subscribed to over one hundred mailing lists, to say nothing of the umpteen individuals that would need to be told of the change, it would be an (shall we say) onerous task. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent You suck my blood like a leech Death On Two Legs - Queen signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC and Bellsouth, etc.
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 23:19:29 +0200 jdd jdani...@free.fr wrote: Hello jdd, Le 16/04/2014 20:59, Brad Rogers a écrit : Because every time you change provider, you would have to change email address too. does this occur often? It can, yes. In the past year, I've changed provider twice. If things continue as they are with the current one, I'll be changing again, soon. I find too often many problems are caused by mass mail providers like gmail There are other providers, both free and paid for. but it's not necessary to go further sorry to have begun this Not a problem. Sorry for extending this slightly further, but as the answers were reasonably short I felt it was worth taking the risk. :-) -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent He looked the wrong way at a policeman I Predict A Riot - Kaiser Chiefs signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Prefix for subject line
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 10:43:27 +0200 nikos ni...@qbit.gr wrote: Hello nikos, What will happened if i remove (leave blank) Prefix for subject line? There will be no prefix to add to the subject line. This is not harmful in any way but some people prefer, for various reasons, to have them. Some MUAs seem to have a rather limited ability to filter messages. A subject prefix generally placates the users of such software. I prefer to *not* have prefixes, although that's largely due to the fact that, in the past, they could eat up screen real estate. That's not such an issue these days with nearly all monitors being of the wide screen variety. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent You're only 29 got a lot to learn Seventeen - Sex Pistols signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Attachment with welcome message
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:17:06 +0530 Amit Bhatt misterbh...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Amit, I wish to send an attached file with list guidelines via welcome Does it need to be an attachment? Why not enter the guidelines into the body of the message as plain text? soapbox Of course, 99.999% of people *don't* read the welcome message, never mind keep a copy so they have the unsubscribe instructions. Not that the unsub instructions are generally needed, since they often get tacked onto the end of every list mail anyway. Even then, people seem to have difficulty unsubscribing should the need arise. /soapbox -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Who's a sucker now? Edward The Bear - The Damned signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Suspend a Subscriber
On Thu, 04 Oct 2012 13:37:06 -0400 Dennis Putnam d...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hello Dennis, Is there a way to suspend or otherwise prevent a subscriber from posting Put them on 'moderation', which means all their posts have to be approved before they go out to the list. I know that means work, but you could just ignore them or simply discard them. to a list and send a notice of same, without actually unsubscribing and IDK whether mailman notifies the user that they're on moderation, but you only need send that message to them once. At the same time, you can ask them to explain their actions, and what they're going to do about getting back in to good standing. Personally, if they've been persistently breaking the rules, I'd ban 'em anyway. It's not likely they're going to change, despite your previous warnings. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent I hit the ground, boy have I arrived! The History Of The World (Part 1) - The Damned signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Gmail features
On Wed, 8 Aug 2012 09:09:22 +0200 Lucio Crusca lu...@sulweb.org wrote: Hello Lucio, Brad Rogers writes: Send: smtp.foo.bar Does that mean that I must have an external (from my mailman server point of view) smtp server? That would explain everything, but that I believe so, yes. I only run one list, and don't have sufficient access rights to play with this to find out. Like you, I have limited funds, so can't buy my list out of this situation. Reply to: list.foo.bar Already done since when I created my lists (I almost always set reply_goes_to_list option to the list itself, unrespectful of big warnings mailman shows about reply-to munging considered harmful). I don't set it, but there are arguments both for and against. It's up to each of us to make up our own minds. See http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2012-July/002752.html and a few surrounding messages for some context. I've read the whole thread, thanks. Unfortunately it does not reply to my questions above, but maybe you have undestood the exact meaning of those words. Yes, we were diverging from the real subject of the thread, and I never pursued the matter any further. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Black man got a lot of problems, but he don't mind throwing a brick White Riot - The Clash signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Gmail features
On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 12:19:41 - Lucio Crusca lu...@sulweb.org wrote: Hello Lucio, Like I said, I suspect it depends on the list. My current best guess is that older lists (i.e. the ones that had been created before some time in the past) don't hit the infamous feature, while newer ones do. Gmail has *always* been that way. There is a workaround. Maybe it is employed (if only by accident) on the lists you mention. It is required that the list be set up with the following; Receive: list.foo.bar Send: smtp.foo.bar and then add the header; Reply to: list.foo.bar I got this from another list I'm subbed to, have never done it myself so can't say for sure it's correct, but have no reason to doubt the source. See http://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2012-July/002752.html and a few surrounding messages for some context. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Kill joy, bad guy, big talking, small fry Death On Two Legs - Queen signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] A simple unsubscribe
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:51:51 -0400 Brian Canty bca...@apsa.org wrote: Hello Brian, Hello - I was wondering if anyone has a way to provide subscribers a simple and easy way to unsubscribe from a mailing list. I do not What's wrong with the current challenge and response method? Stops people from maliciously (un)subscribing others. provide passwords, so I was wondering if there is a simple enter your email address box that I can include on a link in my footers? This would be open to the abuse I mention above, unless a challenge was sent out. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent What will you do when the gas taps turn? The Gasman Cometh - Crass signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] what constitutes spam?
On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:39:44 +0200 Anne Wainwright anothera...@fables.co.za wrote: Hello Anne, As I said in my reply, this is hardly spam, I did not send it out to You sent out an Unsolicited Commercial Email (UCE) which, to most people, constitutes SPAM. Whether you sent it to one person or one million is irrelevant. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent The public gets what the public wants Going Underground - The Jam signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Detecting Autoresponders
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:27:22 -0500 Grant Taylor gtay...@riverviewtech.net wrote: Hello Grant, OoO auto responders usually reply to the From: (header) address of messages as they have on concept of the SMTP envelope sender. So if Like Matthias, I ban users that use auto-responders. No amount of begging, apologising or offering me money(0) has, so far, got any of the offenders back on my lists. (0) Okay, so no-one has /actually/ offered me money, but I live in hope. :-) -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent A friend of a friend he got beaten I Predict A Riot - Kaiser Chiefs signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Administrivia
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:12:17 -0600 LuKreme krem...@kreme.com wrote: Hello LuKreme, The help says Administrivia tests will check postings to see whether it's really meant as an administrative request (like subscribe, unsubscribe, etc), and will add it to the the administrative requests queue, notifying the administrator of the new request, in the process. but at least on my system, this doesn't seem to happen. I asked a very similar question a few months back, and got a very comprehensive answer from Mark Sapiro. In my case, it was that the people attempting to (un)subscribe were sending their requests with a plain text *and* an HTML part. The combination of the two parts added up to far more than the allowed number of lines for a message to be treated as administrivia, s was passed on to the list processing software, which promptly strips the HTML part, leaving just the one word message that arrived at the list. Is it possible that the same thing is happening on your list? -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent This is the fifty first state of the USA Heartland - The The signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Robots Tag
On Sat, 02 May 2009 16:53:26 -0400 John Webb we...@swva.net wrote: Hello John, Thanks Brad. Any idea what I need to do to get index/follow into my You're welcome. archives html? Mark has answered that. Which is great, 'coz I had no idea where to look! :-) -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent I'd hate to look into those eyes and see an ounce of pain Sweet Child O'Mine - Guns 'N' Roses signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Robots Tag
On Fri, 01 May 2009 14:56:01 -0400 John Webb j...@virginiamountains.com wrote: Hello John, What exactly does the follow or nofollow part of it do? (no)follow tells spiders whether or not to follow links on your page. Of course, it applies *only* to your page, so the link can still be arrived at from external pages. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent If you ain't sticking your knives in me, you will be eventually Monsoon - Robbie Williams signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Administrivia intercept not working.
Hello All, I run a small mailing list which under version 2.1.11 of Mailman. A while ago, an unsubscribe message came to the list rather than be intercepted and acted upon. I thought nothing of it at the time, but a similar occurrence on another list (to which I subscribe but do not have admin priveleges) prompted me to look closer at my settings. Admin messages to the list are supposed to be intercepted, but for some reason, this one (actually, there were several from the same person) wasn't. Obviously something amiss. The other list runs under v2.1.9 of MM. I can forward copies of messages (with headers) if required so those of you more knowledgeable than me can see what's happening. Finally, I only have web access to my Mailman list settings (via cPanel) as the list is run by my domain provider's servers, not locally. Therefore, I can't alter code directly. What access the list owner of the second list has, I don't know. Thanks, in advance, for all assistance. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] How big message size
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:11:46 +0700 Maickel Pandie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Maickel, How big usually you set message size in your mailing list server? I know the default is 40 KB but it's to small for user that want to share some file I run one list for a small group of users with a size limit of 5MB. Normally, I would not set it anywhere near this high, for similar reasons to those given by Brad Knowles. However, this list is for people that are not at all computer literate (it's a small group of genealogists researching the same family), so expecting them to learn how to use FTP would be an uphill struggle (some of them can't even turn off HTML in their email client, even with a step-by-step guide). I would suggest that increasing it much beyond 5MB may cause problems, not with Mailman, but mail servers. One of the users on the aforementioned list used to regularly miss messages that had large attachments. At the time, the size limit was 10MB. I asked about, and it seems that some servers just silently delete mail over a certain size (varies according to the server's settings, of course). Somewhere along the route to him, the messages would just get deleted. No courtesy messages were sent, either to him, or the list's server/me, to let us know what had happened. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent It's becoming an obsession Teenage Depression - Eddie The Hot Rods signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
