Re: [Mailman-Users] Another newbie startup question
Well, I did turn off notifications and added the 90 new names 30 at a time. They appeared immediately on the list. Turns out that, since I don't have command line access to the machine that hosts the list, I'm reduced to looking 30 at a time. Such are the vagaries of being a remote moderator. Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/04/05 8:00 PM At 3:12 PM -0600 2005-02-04, C. Jon Hinkle wrote: I added a list of 230 names/e-dresses to the list using the mass subscribe box. It seems to have choked the system. The subscriber list snip I'm not sure I've got any answers for you on this. I've never seen this kind of behaviour on the lists I've managed. Even the snip question: Is it possible to print (or see) a complete membership list, snip There are the command-line programs. See snip CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT This electronic communication is from the Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services and is confidential, privileged and intended only for the use of the recipient named above. If you are not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering this information to the intended recipient, unauthorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately at the following email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by calling (816) 632-7276. Thank you. C. Jon Hinkle, Senior Epidemiology Specialist Division of Environmental Health and Communicable Disease Prevention Mo. Department of Health and Senior Svcs. 207 E. McElwain Cameron, Missouri 64429-1395 Phone: (816) 632-7276 Fax: (816) 632-1636 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Another newbie startup question
I got a bounce that said I wasn't subscribed when I thought I was, so I resubscribed, deleted the first message, and then my subscription verification seems to have failed. I have a feeling that it may be because of the confidentiality statement our IT folks append to the end of every e-mail leaving the system. Having said that, here is my original question, and I'll just wait until it is answered or rejected. First, thanks for all the help you've already given me. Now, the next set of problems. I added a list of 230 names/e-dresses to the list using the mass subscribe box. It seems to have choked the system. The subscriber list shows all of the names (I think), but I only got about 80 notifications. (Wouldn't it have been clever to have turned off notifications first, he muses...) Anyway, I think those are working, but that leads to my second question: Is it possible to print (or see) a complete membership list, rather than having it displayed 30 at a time on the membership page? Thanks again for all your help. CJon CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT This electronic communication is from the Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services and is confidential, privileged and intended only for the use of the recipient named above. If you are not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering this information to the intended recipient, unauthorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately at the following email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by calling (816) 632-7276. Thank you. C. Jon Hinkle, Senior Epidemiology Specialist Division of Environmental Health and Communicable Disease Prevention Mo. Department of Health and Senior Svcs. 207 E. McElwain Cameron, Missouri 64429-1395 Phone: (816) 632-7276 Fax: (816) 632-1636 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] newbie question
Thanks, everybody, for your responses. I put it up yesterday with the first dozen of the 30 added in the first wave. I gave some of them full rights and left the others moderated and played with it all afternoon. I hope my boss, who gave me the assignment thinks it was a productive Friday afternoon. ;^) Anyway, I think I had come to about the same configuration that you all suggested, and it is nice to have confirmation that I'm thinking down the right track. I hadn't thought about Brad's point about 130 large attachments, but it is a good one. One of the things we were thinking about was a weekly distribution of a dozen 100K spreadsheets. I guess that's out. Looks like I'll be spending some time lurking in this forum. I'm not shy about asking for help, so you'll probably hear from me again. Thanks for your help. CJon Oh! sorry about the big sig. Our IT dept does that for anything that goes outside the system. I can't turn it off. CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT This electronic communication is from the Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services and is confidential, privileged and intended only for the use of the recipient named above. If you are not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering this information to the intended recipient, unauthorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately at the following email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by calling (816) 632-7276. Thank you. C. Jon Hinkle, Senior Epidemiology Specialist Division of Environmental Health and Communicable Disease Prevention Mo. Department of Health and Senior Svcs. 207 E. McElwain Cameron, Missouri 64429-1395 Phone: (816) 632-7276 Fax: (816) 632-1636 Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/21/05 8:26 PM At 4:27 PM -0600 2005-01-20, C. Jon Hinkle wrote: In either instance, how do I account for worthwhile replies that would be beneficial for the entire list to see? Generally speaking, munging the Reply-To: header is considered to be a bad idea -- See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.048.htp. That said, for certain types of lists, it may make sense to do this sort of thing. Lists where that is more appropriate tend to be ones that are run internally to an organization, and where you can make an across-the-board decision like this and do so with the approval of management. Am I taking the wrong tack here? Is this better done with something like default_member_moderation? I could set the flag to off for the 30 and on for the rest and then set the action to Hold. Then, if the posting/reply was worth seeing on the list, it could be approved by a single moderator, and if not then it gets rejected and the poster gets a notice. That's the path I would be inclined to take. You can choose which people get their moderation bit turned off, so that they can post directly. Everyone else gets moderated, and you have a small team of people who do the work of eliminating the wheat from the chaff. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] newbie question
I have been selected to set up a Mailman system to communicate with roughly 140 users. I have exactly zero experience with this kind of endevor, although I am not totally techno-challenged. I need to set about 30 of the users to be able to post and reply at will. The rest should be able to post and reply, but with some limits. For instance, if someone posts something useful, we don't want 130 postings back to the list saying Wow! That's cool! Given the user-level of many of the 110 with limited rights, such a scenario is well within the realm of possiblity. These are the same people who reply to a Department-wide announcement by hitting the Reply All button. In any event, I can see from the List Admin manual that I can set up moderators and they would have full rights and set the rest as users and make their replies be moderated, but having 30 moderators seems unwieldy. For instance, who would actually moderate the postings from the 110? If I set first_strip_reply_to to YES and then set reply_goes_to_List to POSTER, the reply would go to the original poster, but not to the entire list? Is that different than setting first_strip_reply_to to NO and having the original reply-to be in force? In either instance, how do I account for worthwhile replies that would be beneficial for the entire list to see? Am I taking the wrong tack here? Is this better done with something like default_member_moderation? I could set the flag to off for the 30 and on for the rest and then set the action to Hold. Then, if the posting/reply was worth seeing on the list, it could be approved by a single moderator, and if not then it gets rejected and the poster gets a notice. If this seems disjointed, it is because I'm making it up as I go along. Any guidance you can offer is appreciated. TIA, CJon CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT This electronic communication is from the Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services and is confidential, privileged and intended only for the use of the recipient named above. If you are not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering this information to the intended recipient, unauthorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately at the following email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by calling (816) 632-7276. Thank you. C. Jon Hinkle, Senior Epidemiology Specialist Division of Environmental Health and Communicable Disease Prevention Mo. Department of Health and Senior Svcs. 207 E. McElwain Cameron, Missouri 64429-1395 Phone: (816) 632-7276 Fax: (816) 632-1636 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
