[Mailman-Users] Mailman users list
I gather from what I read, that if I don't own the server my list is hosted, there is no way to get a full membership list with emails and names. I have found some reference to changing the general information page, but again I don't own the installed instance of Mailman. Charles -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribers bouncing
My little meager 150 name list started bouncing after I added 50'ish new names. In my case, the error was "unrouteable mail domain" and I found out from the provider of the server, he was "throttling" outgoing mails at 100 per hour Could it be you are throttled at 300 (90% of 3000)? Look for that, but definitely figure out and post what the stated reason is for the bounce. Charles "hoping for my own server someday" Owen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Debbie Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:03 PM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] subscribers bouncing I checked the archives and didn't find what I was looking for, so please forgive me if this has been answered already. I keep having about 90% of my 3000 subscribers bouncing on a regular basis. I've checked and most are good addresses. Even the address that I use keeps bouncing, and sending me the bounce message, even though I get all the messages I send. Have I done something wrong? Does it have something to do with it being an annoucement list? It's getting to be an awful lot of work to manually contact the bounced subscribers to make sure they are still online and then to take the bounce off of their account. Only to have to go through it a few weeks later and do it again. Can anyone help me? Thanks in advance, Debbie -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/cmowen%40att.net Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation e-mail goes to user that isnotadmin or moderator
It reports to be 2.1.6. I will have to forward your comments to tech support, but I have only one forwarder in my lists that was created by the installation program provided. (You have indicated this forward is wrong, thus unrouted/bad addresses go to the persons designated) If you think of anything, I will also pass my tech supports help if helpful. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Sapiro Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 8:50 PM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation e-mail goes to user that isnotadmin or moderator Charles M. Owen wrote: > >I am an end-user of a rented server. I do not have access to mailman >directly. What is "MTA"? <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.013.htp> >I did discover three things. > >1) The person getting the unwanted message sent me a copy and it was to >-owner@ from mailman-bounces@ This is how owner notifications should be sent. >2) When I added the list through the control panel, it automatically placed >a forwarder (only one) in the forwarder list: > >owner-@ ==>>> -admin@ This is wrong. If the intent of whatever did this is to handle mail to owner-@ by forwarding it to the list owner, it should be forwarded to -owner@. -admin@ is a deprecated address. It hasn't been actually used since Mailman 2.0.x. In Mailman 2.1.x it is a synonym for -bounces@. >2) Two people DID GET it that I did not expect and I found both addresses as >forwarded from the "Default Address Maintenance" where "All unrouted mail >will be sent". > >SO... I get the message for being in the moderator field as I should and >they get it for unrouted mail. "-owner" instead of "owner-" >should be forwarded. This is my working theory!! I have an idea of this is >the course of action, but those more familiar can advise. I'm not sure I'm correctly parsing the above, but the owner- address is not a Mailman address. It is an address that is generically used by some to reach the owner of the list. Thus, with a Mailman list, this address is supported by forwarding to the address that actually reaches the owner. What version of Mailman is this? I've been assuming it is a recent 2.1.x version, but maybe not, so what is it? >THUS... what do I need to do or get the provider to fix? Mailman 2.1.x expects 10 addresses per list to be delivered to Mailman in specific ways and to not be 'unknown'. These addresses are @... [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (does not go to the owner, goes to -bounces) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailman 2.0.x expects only 4 @... [EMAIL PROTECTED] (does go to the owner) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/cmowen%40att.net Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation e-mail goes to user that is not admin or moderator
Sorry, I did miss it somehow. I will post against this topic, since it is more appropriate. I am an end-user of a rented server. I do not have access to mailman directly. What is "MTA"? I did discover three things. 1) The person getting the unwanted message sent me a copy and it was to -owner@ from mailman-bounces@ 2) When I added the list through the control panel, it automatically placed a forwarder (only one) in the forwarder list: owner-@ ==>>> -admin@ 2) Two people DID GET it that I did not expect and I found both addresses as forwarded from the "Default Address Maintenance" where "All unrouted mail will be sent". SO... I get the message for being in the moderator field as I should and they get it for unrouted mail. "-owner" instead of "owner-" should be forwarded. This is my working theory!! I have an idea of this is the course of action, but those more familiar can advise. THUS... what do I need to do or get the provider to fix? Charles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Sapiro Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 4:03 PM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation e-mail goes to user that is notadminor moderator Charles M. Owen wrote: >I have set up a list and all the emails that are going to the "owner" are >going to a person that is not on either the admin or moderator list. > > >Any idea why? Did you see the reply to your prior post at <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-January/048811.html>? -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan Charles M. Owen wrote: >One of my users is getting the owner e-mail for some reason I can't figure >out. There are only two places (admin & Moderator) and He is not there. He >gets the request and the confirmation of the subscription. > >Where do I look? Generally, internally generated Mailman owner notifications are sent to list-owner at example.com and only after being received at that address are they resent to the admin and moderator addresses. So check what the MTA is doing with the list-owner address (aliases, something else?). Also check Mailman's smtp log. You'll normally see two entries with the same message id. The first for 1 recipient (the mail to list-owner) and the second perhaps a couple of seconds later for 'n' recipients which will tell you how many admins/moderators it is sent to. If you send mail directly to list-owner at example.com, does he get it? -- Mark SapiroThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/cmowen%40att.net Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Confirmation e-mail goes to user that is not admin or moderator
I have set up a list and all the emails that are going to the "owner" are going to a person that is not on either the admin or moderator list. Any idea why? Using 2.1.6 Mailman Charles -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] An interesting problem 2.1.6
One of my users is getting the owner e-mail for some reason I can't figure out. There are only two places (admin & Moderator) and He is not there. He gets the request and the confirmation of the subscription. Where do I look? Help! Charles -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
