[Mailman-Users] Using python format strings

2004-08-31 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi!

I want to customize our mailman installation (2.1.5) and need to edit 
the languange templates for that.

I've read the docu how to use the python format strings but especialy 
the %(host_name)s string does not work in every template. I want to use 
%(host_name)s in the verify.txt template, but the format string is not 
translated into the hostname. On the other site %(host_name)s works fine 
for example in subscribeack.txt.

Can't I use evry python format string in evry template? Is this problem 
known or is it a bug? Or am I doing something wrong?

Also I saw the format string %(hostname)s in some templates, for example 
in subauth.txt (English or German). I tryed this also with verify.txt 
but it doesn't work too. Whats the different between both python format 
strings and are both correct? Witch format string shall I use?
betweenn %(hostname)s and %(host_name)s?

Can someone help me out of this format string confusion?

Thanks,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Using python format strings

2004-08-31 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi!

On Di, Aug 31, 2004 at 08:32:07 +0200, Brad Knowles wrote:
> At 5:46 PM +0200 2004-08-31, Christian Schoepplein wrote:
> 
> > I've read the docu how to use the python format strings but especialy
> > the %(host_name)s string does not work in every template. I want to use
> > %(host_name)s in the verify.txt template, but the format string is not
> > translated into the hostname. On the other site %(host_name)s works fine
> > for example in subscribeack.txt.
> 
>   Hmm.  Do you have full personalization turned on?  Are you 
> configured to VERP every message?

Yes, all that things are working fine. And I've also found the reason 
for the missing %(host_name)s format string for the file verify.txt. In 
the file

$mailmanpath/Mailman/MailList.py

some template files get initialized with the format strings, that can be 
used inside the template files. For verify.txt the %(host_name)s format 
string was not set up as a property :-(.

I wonder wy all often used format strings aren't availabel for all 
template files. In my opinion this would be a nice feature for the next 
release or a bugfix or what ever. What can I do to make sure, that this 
is changed for the next mailman release?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Using python format strings

2004-08-31 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi!

On Di, Aug 31, 2004 at 11:11:50 +0200, Brad Knowles wrote:
> At 10:23 PM +0200 2004-08-31, Christian Schoepplein wrote:
> 
> > And I've also found the reason
> > for the missing %(host_name)s format string for the file verify.txt. In
> > the file
> >
> > $mailmanpath/Mailman/MailList.py
> >
> > some template files get initialized with the format strings, that can be
> > used inside the template files. For verify.txt the %(host_name)s format
> > string was not set up as a property :-(.
> 
>   If you can provide some patches, I'm sure they would be welcomed. 

I'm new to python (this was the first time I changed python code) and 
patches and all this stuff..., but I would be glad to submit the 
changes. Maybe someone can give me via PM some hints or a quick step by 
step instruction, how I can get a diff between the old and the changed 
MailList.py file.

> They might even find their way into a 2.1.6 release, although that 
> decision would have to be left to Barry.

When will 2.1.6 released?

>   Please submit patches via the bug tracker on the Mailman project 
> page at SourceForge.

I'll take a look at it, thanks.

Ciao,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1.5 - genalias not working for postfix?

2004-12-11 Thread Christian Schoepplein
On Sa, Dez 11, 2004 at 01:50:29 -0700, Jeffery Cann wrote:
> I have seen several threads related to the genalias command.  The idea
> is that with postfix, when you run genalias (and you have added the
> mailman alias files to your postfix main.cf), it will automatically
> update your mailman alias file.

Yes, and that works fine here since more than a year ;-).

> The problem for me on Fedora Core 3 is that when I set my
> MTA='Postfix' in the mm_cfg.py file and then run 'genalias', the alias
> file is supposed to be written to the data/aliases file.  On FC3, this
> is located in /var/lib/mailman/data/
> 
> Here's an example
> 
> # /usr/lib/mailman/bin/genaliases
> # ls  /var/lib/mailman/data
> last_mailman_version
> sitelist.cfg
> 
> My guess is that there is some configuration parameter that is
> preventing this from working.  When I change remove the MTA='Postfix'
> in the mm_cfg.py file, aliases are generated.  I realize this is the
> workaround, but I would like to have mailman working automatically to
> maintain postfix aliases when we add or remove mailman lists.

Create the /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases file manualy and set the 
right permissions. Then try the genaliases command again:

# touch /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases
# chown user_that_your_webserver_runs_under:mailman aliases
# chmod 660 aliases

On my box with SUSE 8.1 the alias files in /var/lib/mailman/data look 
like this:

# ls -al /var/lib/mailman/data/al*
-rw-rw1 wwwrun   mailman 56857 Dec 11 23:45 aliases
-rwxr-xr-x1 wwwrun   mailman 90112 Dec 11 23:45 aliases.db

If the files were created correctly, you have to tell postfix about the 
mailman alias file. From /etc/postfix/main.cf:

alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases,
 hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases

Hth,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman + Postfix won't work

2005-01-09 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi!

On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 05:00:08PM -0500, José Zapata wrote:
> I'm currently using Mailman with Sendmail. After investigating a bit, 
> I heard using Postfix would be better for performance (I have a 45000+ 
> news list, announce only, with one message per day which is 70-90k in 
> size). My server came with Postfix preinstalled, so I stopped sendmail 
> and started Postfix. 

Good decision ;-).

> After reconfiguring Mailman with the correct 
> user, tried testing the lists. They don't seem to work at all. Every 
> message I send to the list or the list owner seem to dissapear. The 
> aliases are correctly set up, and Postfix is working fine as far as I 
> can tell. 

Does postfix know about your mailman aliases? You can integrate the 
mailman aliases file into postfix, by adding the path to this file to 
the alias_maps entry:

alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases,
 hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases

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Re: [Mailman-Users] (Off topic - kinda) Postfix again

2005-01-09 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi!

On So, Jan 09, 2005 at 12:04:00 -0500, José Zapata wrote:
> Well, I'm trying again Postfix instead of Sendmail and hopefully all 
> will work this time. However, I have one little problem. Even if 
> Postfix is running and Sendmail isn't, when I check the queue with 
> "mailq" the result I get belongs to the Sendmail queue.

Have you really installed both postfix and sendmail on the same server?

> Can you please tell me how to make the "mailq" command work with the 
> Postfix queue?

Use the command

postqueue -p

Thats the same like mailq and it shows you the postfix queue. If you 
want to use the mailq command, remove sendmail and install and 
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[Mailman-Users] mailman stoped sending mails :-(

2005-02-25 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hello!

I'm using a self compiled mm 2.1.5 installation on a suse 8.1 box. The 
installation worked for mor then a half year without problems, but now 
mailman doesn't send out mails anymore :-(. The mailsetup seems to be 
ok, because mails that were not sent to lists are delivered. I can't 
find anny error message in the logs, the only thing I see is in the 
logfile for mailman posts.

Feb 26 04:46:20 2005 (21607) post to iscb from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=2
951, message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 276 failures
  
Where could this failures come from? I didn't change anything on the 
system. I have no more ideas where or what to look for :-(.

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[Mailman-Users] mailman + groupware software

2005-06-07 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hello,

I wonder if there is a groupware software available, that has mailman 
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[Mailman-Users] Postfix and some mailman problems

2003-07-24 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hello!

I have some problems with postfix and mailman and I don't know how to 
solve them :-(.

I'm using a machine that responds on tow domains (dom1.de and dom2.de).  
Postfix accepts mails for both domains without problems, messages to  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] are delivered correctly to the user 
schoeppi.

On the box the newest mailman is running. For lists under dom1.de every 
thing is working fine. If I setup a list via the webinterface under  
dom2.de the list is created, but I can't send mails to the listaddress or 
the other aliases for the same list. Either I get no reaktion 
from mailman or the mailserver (errormessage etc.) or postfix produces the 
following error:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
host mx.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.148]: 550 Unknown local part listenname
in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

What might be the reason for this behavior?

The list appears in mailman's alias-fileand the alias-database is build. 
Also postfix can read this files..., for dom1.de everything is working 
fine.

For default mailman uses dom1.de as hostnamepart for a list, when setting 
up a new list in the interface under dom1.de or dom2.de. but is it 
possible to use the hostnamepart dom1.de when accessing the webinterface 
via 

http://www.dom1.de/mailman/admin 

or 

http://dom1.de/mailman/admin 

and dom2.de when accessing the interface via 

http://www.dom2.de/mailman/admin 

or 

http://dom2.de/mailman/admin

Its also not so nice, that not all lists for dom2 are showen, when I 
access the admininterface via

http://www.dom2.de/mailman/admin

or

http://dom2.de/mailman/admin

If I try the same for dom1, everything is OK..., all list for dom1.de are 
shown for both URLs.

Maybe someone could give me some hints how to solve the problems above!!!

Best regards an thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] Problems with user rights

2003-07-26 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hello!

After adding some virtual hosts to mm_cfg.py and restartting mailman, I 
get the following problems with the user rights for mailman and postfix:

---
This is the Postfix program at host www.as-2.de.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned
below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.

For further assistance, please send mail to 

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the message returned below.

The Postfix program

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Command died with status 2:
"/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post blindzeln-mod". Command output: Group
mismatch error.  Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as
group "nogroup", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as
group "mailman".  Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group
"nogroup", or re-run configure,  providing the command line option
`--with-mail-gid=mailman'.
---

I ran check_perms but no problems where shown..., before adding the 
virtual hosts everything worked fine.

what can I do, to solve this problem? I know that I could reconfigure 
and reinstall mailman, but what about the old lists an configurations? 
Will they be deleted after a new installation? How shuld I reinstall 
mailman to have the right userrights?

Apache is running as user wwwrun an group nogroup, postfix runs as user 
postfix and group maildrop...

Thanks for any hint!

Ciao,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with user rights

2003-07-26 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hello!

On Sam, Jul 26, 2003 at 10:26:41 -0400, Jon Carnes wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 09:59, Christian Schoepplein wrote:
> > After adding some virtual hosts to mm_cfg.py and restartting mailman, I 
> > get the following problems with the user rights for mailman and postfix:
> > 
> > ---
> > This is the Postfix program at host www.as-2.de.
> > 
> > I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned
> > below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.
> > 
> > For further assistance, please send mail to 
> > 
> > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
> > delete your own text from the message returned below.
> > 
> > The Postfix program
> > 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Command died with status 2:
> > "/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post blindzeln-mod". Command output: Group
> > mismatch error.  Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as
> > group "nogroup", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as
> > group "mailman".  Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group
> > "nogroup", or re-run configure,  providing the command line option
> > `--with-mail-gid=mailman'.
> > ---
> 
> Hmmm, Check the ownership of the alias file (the where the above alias
> is stored). Try setting the files group ownership to "nogroup"...

Thanks, the userrights of my alias.db-file really were the problem. But 
somehow I'm confused about the groups and users I have to use, when 
setting up mailman with postfix and apache :-(. In my case the following 
envirorment is given:

httpd.conf:

User wwwrun
Group nogroup

>From postfix's main.cf:

mail_owner = postfix
setgid_group = maildrop
default_privs = nobody
owner_request_special = no 

And from /etc/group:

nobody:x:65533:nobody
nogroup:x:65534:nobody
mailman:x:500:
maildrop:x:59:
postfix:x:51:

[...]

> One of the first steps (after expanding the tar ball containing all the
> source code) to installing from source is to run the command:
> ./configure

Yes, I know, but what do I have to set for cgi-gid, mail-gid, 
with-username and with-group? I executed configure with the following 
parameters:

./configure --prefix=/usr/lib/mailman --sysconfdir=/etc
--localstatedir=/var/run --libexecdir=/usr/lib/mailman
--with-var-prefix=/var/lib/mailman --with-cgi-gid=nogroup
--with-mail-gid=nogroup

Is this OK or should I reinstall mailman with other settings?

> In your case you would include the switch:
>   ./configure --with-mail-gid=mailman

I tryed this but that caused problems like the one above.

> Jon Carnes

Thanks in advance for help!
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[Mailman-Users] Statistics 4 all MM-lists

2003-07-28 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hello!

I wonder how to get some statistics for my MM-lists. What I'm interested 
in is how many users are subscribed to every list, how many users are 
subscribed on all lists (not counting more than onetimes the users, that 
are subscribed to more than one list), how much trafic produces every 
list (count of messages and bytes), how much traffic produces every user 
(not so important) and how much traffic was produced for all MM-lists.

Does anyone know a script, that creates some MM-statistics? Or would I 
have to hack such a script for my needs?

Best regards,
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[Mailman-Users] HTML-Tags ins listaddress :-(

2003-07-30 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hiho!

If HTML-tags were used in a description for a MM-list, in some cases this 
tags apear in the listaddress. Example:

I have a local list called [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the webinterface I added the 
following for the listdescription:

   beschreibung

If I write a mail to the list everything with the addresses in the header 
is fine, only the Reply-to-entry looks strange:

   Reply-To: "beschreibung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

If I reply to this message, my mailer (mutt) uses this entry in his 
to-field :-(.

I'm using MM 2.1.2 and the reply-to for the list is set to the
listaddress. MTA is postfix and my MUA is mutt..., but I think its nor a 
MUA or MTA butt a MM related problem :-(.

I cant prevent the listadmins on my site to use this HTML-tags, they think 
it looks nicer on the listinfopages..., but also they don't want this 
HTML-stuff in the messages to their lists...

Is there a possibility to filter out this HTML-tags?

Thanks and the best regards,
Schoeppi

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[Mailman-Users] Charset conversion

2003-08-03 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hello!

I'm using mailman 2.1.2 that uses AFAIK email 2.5.1 for messageprocessing. 
However, I have a problem with some emails in mailmanlists :-(.

If the listlanguage is set to German (iso-8859-1) and a message is posted 
with this characterset to a list, everything works fine. If the posters 
use another characterset I get multiparted messages..., messages with 
attachments. For example a poster uses 7bit us-ascii in its mailer, in my 
lists appears a message with tow parts: The text from the poster in 
us-ascii and the listsignature in iso-8859-1. Such a meeeage looks like 
this:

-
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sat Aug  2 15:49:00 2003
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from toshiba.schoeppi (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by toshiba.schoeppi (Postfix) with ESMTP
id 621DC1047B; Sat,  2 Aug 2003 15:48:58 +0200 (CEST)
X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: by toshiba.schoeppi (Postfix, from userid 503)
id F247F109C0; Sat,  2 Aug 2003 15:48:56 +0200 (CEST)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 15:48:56 +0200
From: Christian Schoepplein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i
Subject: [Lh2] test
X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2
Precedence: list
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
List-Id: 
List-Unsubscribe: <http://localhost/mailman/listinfo/lh2>,
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
List-Subscribe: <http://localhost/mailman/listinfo/lh2>,
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===64836026195830321=="
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[-- Anhang #1 --]
[-- Typ: text/plain, Kodierung: 7bit, Größe: 0,1K --]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline

messagetext


[-- Anhang #2 --]
[-- Typ: text/plain, Kodierung: quoted-printable, Größe: 0,1K --]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Disposition: inline

--
listfooter

-

My idea was to convert messages, that are not written with charset 
iso-8859-1 into this characterset. Most users are using charset 
windows-1252 in their mailers or their operatingsystem... So a big help 
would allready be, if windows-1252 is converted into iso-8859-1.

I tryed to set this up with the email-pakage by editing the file 
Carset.py, but I had no sugces :-(. Is it possible to do such a conversion 
with email and how do I have to set this up?

Allthough I don't know if my idea is good and mailman will do things right 
after changing the configuration of email, I'd like to have a try... Have 
yo heard of this problems and do you konw a better solution?

Thanks and best regards,
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[Mailman-Users] Python error message...

2003-08-09 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi!

Yesterday I upgrated python 2.2 to 2.3 on our mailinglistserver. Now I 
get some python errors:

as-2:/usr/lib/mailman/bin # ./config_list -o xyz as-news
/usr/lib/mailman/pythonlib/korean/c/euc_kr.py:24: RuntimeWarning: Python 
C API v
ersion mismatch for module _koco: This Python has API version 1012, 
module _koco
 has version 1011.
  import _koco
/usr/lib/mailman/pythonlib/japanese/c/euc_jp.py:3: RuntimeWarning: 
Python C API
version mismatch for module _japanese_codecs: This Python has API 
version 1012,
module _japanese_codecs has version 1011.
  import codecs, japanese.c._japanese_codecs
as-2:/usr/lib/mailman/bin # 

Allthog I don't have any Japanese or Korean lists on my server, I'd like 
to correct this errors. How can I do this?

Ciao,
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[Mailman-Users] Stop the "who" request...

2003-08-10 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hello!

Is it somehow possible to stop mailing out all the mailaddresses, when 
someone send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject 
like

who password

or a mailboddy like
who password

I'd like to have this restriktion only to some mailinlists on my server, 
this lists are public an not moderatetd...

Anny hint is wellcome!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Charset conversion

2003-08-14 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hiho!

Thanks for the patch, now everything works as I want it.

Ciao,
Schoeppi

On Son, Aug 03, 2003 at 08:42:23 +0900, Tokio Kikuchi wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> This patch should help.
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=664209&group_id=103&atid=300103
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Tokio
> 
> Christian Schoepplein wrote:
> >Hello!
> >
> >I'm using mailman 2.1.2 that uses AFAIK email 2.5.1 for messageprocessing. 
> >However, I have a problem with some emails in mailmanlists :-(.
> >
> >If the listlanguage is set to German (iso-8859-1) and a message is posted 
> >with this characterset to a list, everything works fine. If the posters 
> >use another characterset I get multiparted messages..., messages with 
> >attachments. For example a poster uses 7bit us-ascii in its mailer, in my 
> >lists appears a message with tow parts: The text from the poster in 
> >us-ascii and the listsignature in iso-8859-1. Such a meeeage looks like 
> >this:
> >
> >-
> >>From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sat Aug  2 15:49:00 2003
> >Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Received: from toshiba.schoeppi (localhost [127.0.0.1])
> > by toshiba.schoeppi (Postfix) with ESMTP
> > id 621DC1047B; Sat,  2 Aug 2003 15:48:58 +0200 (CEST)
> >X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Received: by toshiba.schoeppi (Postfix, from userid 503)
> > id F247F109C0; Sat,  2 Aug 2003 15:48:56 +0200 (CEST)
> >Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 15:48:56 +0200
> >From: Christian Schoepplein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Mime-Version: 1.0
> >User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i
> >Subject: [Lh2] test
> >X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2
> >Precedence: list
> >Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >List-Id: 
> >List-Unsubscribe: <http://localhost/mailman/listinfo/lh2>,
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >List-Subscribe: <http://localhost/mailman/listinfo/lh2>,
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Content-Type: multipart/mixed; 
> >boundary="===64836026195830321=="
> >Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >[-- Anhang #1 --]
> >[-- Typ: text/plain, Kodierung: 7bit, Größe: 0,1K --]
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >Content-Disposition: inline
> >
> >messagetext
> >
> >
> >[-- Anhang #2 --]
> >[-- Typ: text/plain, Kodierung: quoted-printable, Größe: 0,1K --]
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >Content-Disposition: inline
> >
> >--
> >listfooter
> >
> >-
> >

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[Mailman-Users] Restrict number of subscribers for a mailinglists

2003-08-14 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hello!

Can I somehow restrict the number of subscribers for my mailinglist? For 
example list1 should only have 100 members, list2 150 and list3 50 
members? Is it ppossible to define a maximum number of listmembers?

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[Mailman-Users] editing the mailman.po file

2003-08-19 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi!

I'd like to change some of the content in the

$PREFIX/messages/de/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po

file. What do I have to do, to get mailman with the changes working? A 
reinstallation with a changed maiman.po file showed no changes :-(. Do I 
really need to reinstall mailman after editing the .po file?

Thanks and best regards,
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[Mailman-Users] What are listmoderators allowed to do?

2003-08-30 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hello!

I have some lists that have different people for administration and 
moderation. No I wonder, what things listmoderators are allowed to do?

For example listadmins have no problem to set users to nomail by using 
mailman's webinterface, but how about the moderators? Are they able to 
disable maildelivery for some listmembers too? 

Is it possible to allow moderators the access only for the webbased 
usermanagement of the lists?

Is there somewhere a documentation about the things a moderator is allowed 
to do and how this things can be done?

Best regards and thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] Problem with setting users to 'delivery off'

2003-08-30 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hello!

Users on my server can't deactivate maildelivery for their listmails via 
email :-(. They sent a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the 
following tow commands:

set authenticate password
set delivery off

A mail came back that said that option delivery was set, but the users 
still get mails from the list. If they deactivate delivery via their
personal mailmanwebpage, delivery was turned off succesfuly.

Is this a known problem or do they something wrong? We run mailman 2.1.2 
with postfix 2.0.12.

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[Mailman-Users] What went wron with mailman here?

2003-09-01 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hello!

A user of our mailmansystem got the follwoing error..., unfortunatly I 
don't know what she did exactly:

---

Traceback:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
main()
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py", line 96, in main
process_form(mlist, doc, cgidata, language)
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py", line 176, in
process_form
mlist.AddMember(userdesc, remote)
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 806, in AddMember
cookie = Pending.new(Pending.SUBSCRIPTION, userdesc)
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Pending.py", line 80, in new
hashfood = str(now) + str(n) + str(content)
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/UserDesc.py", line 56, in __repr__
return '' % (
UnicodeError: ASCII decoding error: ordinal not in range(128)

-

Can anyone tell me, what went wrong and what I have to do, to eleminate 
this error? Mailman version is 2.1.2.

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[Mailman-Users] Problem with listheaders

2003-09-04 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi!

I've a little problem with my listheaders. I don't know why, but for 
example the snederentry aon my site looks like this:

Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The same entry for this list looks different:

Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What is responsible for the differenze? Is this a mailman or a MTA 
problem? I'm using mailman 2.1.2 and postfix 2.0.12.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman sendmail error

2003-09-06 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi!

On Sam, Sep 06, 2003 at 12:45:52 -0700, Merle Reine wrote:
> I get the following in /var/log/mail when trying to send to 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
> 
> Sep  6 00:23:30 mail postfix/qmgr[5425]: 670D71159B: 
> from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=584, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
> Sep  6 00:23:30 mail Mailman mail-wrapper: Failure to exec script. WANTED 
> gid 65534, GOT gid 65533.  (Reconfigure to take 65533?)
> Sep  6 00:23:30 mail postfix/local[5835]: 670D71159B: 
> to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=local, delay=0, status=bounced (Command 
> died with status 2: "/usr/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper post staff". Command 
> output: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 65534, GOT gid 65533.  
> (Reconfigure to take 65533?) ) 
> 
> I have the aliases setup in /etc/aliases, ran newaliases, postfix reload.  

Why using the global aliasfile and not mailmans aliasfile?

> This is on a SuSe Open Exchange box and Mailman installed from the RPM. 

> Mailman Version:  2.0.13 

How did you start mailman? SuSE ships a own mailmanstartscript thats 
located in

/etc/init.d

Just do a

/etc/init.d/mailman start

or a

rcmailman start

and everything should be OK with the executionrights for mailman and 
postfix. I worked also with SuSE's mailman on SLOX and had no problems.

Regards,
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[Mailman-Users] Problem with charset, global changes don't work :-(

2003-09-06 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hello!

I tryed to change my subscriber address and my password via the 
webinterface first for only one list and after that for all lists in my 
local mailmantestinstallation, where I'm subscribed.

- Passwordchanges for only one list worked, but not globaly for all lists 
  :-(
- EMailaddresschanges for only one list didn't work :-(. I've found the 
  following entry in the error log:

---

Sep 06 14:02:02 2003 (1996) Uncaught runner exception: 'ascii' codec 
can't decode byte 0xe4 in position 18: ordinal not in range(128)
Sep 06 14:02:02 2003 (1996) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 105, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 155, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/CommandRunner.py", line 232, in _dispose
res.process()
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/CommandRunner.py", line 105, in process
stop = self.do_command(cmd, args)
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/CommandRunner.py", line 130, in do_command
return self.do_command(cmd, args)
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/CommandRunner.py", line 132, in do_command
return handler.process(self, args)
  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Commands/cmd_confirm.py", line 83, in process
if line.lstrip() == match:
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xe4 in position 18: 
ordinal not in range(128)

Sep 06 14:02:02 2003 (1996) SHUNTING: 
1062849722.142228+57b48973f469ac9915c7484cab2bb675a6228858


  The problem seems to be the special german letters in the 
  confirmationmail..., somehow the mailmanscripts can not handle this :-(. 
  What do I have to do to fix this?
- A global EMailaddresschange for all lists didn't work too :-(.
- A global Passwordchange for all lists didn't work also :-(.

If I try to see my other listsubscribptions via the 
"List my other subscriptions"-button, I only get the lists where I'm 
logged in :-(. So maybe there is not only the problem with the special 
german letters but a db-related problem. A

~mailman/bin/check_db --all --verbose

told me this:

---
List: lh
   /var/lib/mailman/lists/lh/config.pck: okay
   /var/lib/mailman/lists/lh/config.pck.last: okay
[Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/lib/mailman/lists/lh/config.db'
[Errno 2] No such file or directory: 
'/var/lib/mailman/lists/lh/config.db.last'
List: lh2
   /var/lib/mailman/lists/lh2/config.pck: okay
   /var/lib/mailman/lists/lh2/config.pck.last: okay
[Errno 2] No such file or directory: 
'/var/lib/mailman/lists/lh2/config.db'
[Errno 2] No such file or directory: 
'/var/lib/mailman/lists/lh2/config.db.last'
List: mailman
   /var/lib/mailman/lists/mailman/config.pck: okay
   /var/lib/mailman/lists/mailman/config.pck.last: okay
[Errno 2] No such file or directory: 
'/var/lib/mailman/lists/mailman/config.db'
[Errno 2] No such file or directory: 
'/var/lib/mailman/lists/mailman/config.db.last'
---

What the hell is going on there? Could this be the reason for the problems 
described above? Could this also be the reason for mailman is not sending 
out monthly passwordreminders? I

Is my mailmaninstallation broken?

Regards and THANKS for any tipps helping my solfing the problems ;-)
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman backup script?

2003-09-11 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hello!

On Mit, Sep 10, 2003 at 02:35:49 -0700, Merle Reine wrote:
> I am looking for the best way to backup all of mailman.  I am using the 
> following script but is there a built in utility to do this?  I am using 
> SuSe Open Exchange 4 with mailman.

Take a look into the mailman FAQ, AFAIk there is a script to backup all 
necesary things.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] external archivers and replies

2003-09-16 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi!

On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 09:40:16 -0500, Terry Cowan wrote:
> Also, I notice that, unlike most emails lists -- if you hit reply on this 
> list, the message is directed to the sender instead of the group. Is this 
> easily changed so that replies go to the list instead of the sender?

Go through the general options, there you can define where the relply 
should go to.

> Terry Cowan

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Re: [Mailman-Users] how does it work with virtual domains

2003-09-28 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hello!

On Sam, Sep 27, 2003 at 06:04:03 +0200, Jochen Stärk wrote:
>  I'm using Postfix with virtual domains, and tried something like in  
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-isp/2002/debian-isp-200209/msg00052.html: 
> I got entries for all users that mailman inserted in the alias  in my 
> virtual (like [EMAIL PROTECTED]   list-testing) . The aliases 
> are set correctly to
> execute the wrapper in /etc/aliases. I executed postmap 
> /etc/postfix/virtual postalias /etc/aliases and rcpostfix reload (SuSE 
> Linux uses rcpostfix).
> 
> In /var/log/mail I see that the wrapper really IS executed (Sep 27 
> 17:57:22 linux postfix/local[1]: EE8681EB12: 
> to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=local, delay=2, status=sent 
> ("|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper post mltest4")).
> 
> Anyway, I never see any of those mails again. As there is nothing new in 
> /var/lib/mailman/logs I even tried to redirect the wrapper output (>, 
> 2>) to a log file but that did not grow and /var/lock/mail told me 
> something about my wrapper had died unexpectedly with return code 6 (of 
> course only as long as i tried it "extra-logging").

Witch mailman version are you using and have you started the 
mailmanprocesses, if you using mailman 2.1.2:

ps aux | grep mailman

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[Mailman-Users] My own malman.po file

2003-10-06 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi!

We use mailman for a community and we want to create our own 
mailman messages, for example when a mail was blocked because of 
attachments etc. I know how to create our own settings by editing the 
mailman.po file and bring it into a binaary message catalog format with 
msgfmt.py.

But what is the best way to use such a own binary message catalog after 
a mailman update? Surely mailman.po changes from time to time and I can't 
use an old .po file with a new mailman version... Are there any chances to 
include an old .po or .mo file after an upgrade?

thanks and best regards,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Stats

2003-10-08 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hiho!

On Die, Okt 07, 2003 at 12:31:03 -0700, Jesse Williams-Proudman wrote:
> I need to generate mailing list stats for my customer (# of emails
> delivered/# failed, etc...) for each email they send on their list.  Can
> Mailman do that?  If not, does any one know a server that could?

I wrote a script based on Jon Carnes ideas that I found in the archive of 
this list. With this script you can

- create a overview page with some datas aobut evry advertised mailinglist 
  on your server and with links to a detailed stat and to the list info 
  pages for evry list; this overview might be helpfull for siteadmins etc.
- create detailed stats for every list witch will be coppied in a seperate 
  listspecific directory, so access for evry list can be restricted for 
  evry list with a special login or password for example with an 
  .htaccess-file; this stats might be helpfull and interesting for the 
  moderators or listadmins.
- mail out the detailed stats to the listadmins and moderators and/or 
  other people who could be interested in the stats.

The webpages and mailings can be done with cronjobs as ofthen as necesary.

I run this script on a little server with mailman 2.1.3 and about 40  
lists and 1500 users with out any problems, but I have no experince what 
will happen if this script is used with bigger lists or more users. 

Here is the link where the script can be downloaded:

http://www.schoeppi.net/mmstats.tar.gz

If anyone has ideas, wishes, critics, bugfixes or what else regarding the 
script, please let me know!

Regards and have fun,
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[Mailman-Users] Rebuild list archives

2003-10-11 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hello!

What do I have to do for rebuild dayly based listarchives into monthly 
based archs? At the moment I see a link for evry day on my archive page 
but I want to have a monthly view. I've allready reconfigured the 
listconfig from dayly to monthly archiving, but after running $bin/arch I 
have still the links for evry day... :-(

Can someone give me a hint?

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[Mailman-Users] Footers and problems with charset... :-(

2003-10-12 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi!

I ofthen get mails with attachments when messages were sent with a not so 
common charset... The attachment is the footer, its in quoted printable 
and not text/plain format.

Is there any chance to eleminate these attachments? I allready patched 
mailman with a patch from Tokio Kikuchi 
(http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=664209&group_id=103&atid=300103)
but this patch sems not to work allways :-(. What more can I do to 
eleminate this attachment without turning of the footers?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] bugs in Mailman 2.1.3, one critical for private mailists

2003-10-30 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hiho!

On Don, Okt 30, 2003 at 12:54:59 -0500, Pablo Chamorro C. wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, Dan Phillips wrote:
> 
> About the other problem, I gave these email commands to Mailman:
> 
> 1. password
> 2. set show (delivery was on)
> 3. set authenticate 
>set delivery off
> 4. set show (delivery was on)
> 
> 5. I send one test message to the list and I received it.
> 6. So I disabled the deliveries from the web interface, and I did again:
> 
> 7. set show (delivery was off)
> 8. set authenticate 
>set delivery on
> 9. set show (delivery was off)
> 
> Am I doing something wrong?

No, I don't think so.

I tryed the same on a system with mailman 2.1.3 (also a clean 
installation from source) and I had the same problem too. If I remember 
correctly, with 2.1.2 (that was the first mailman version I used) there 
was the same problem too.

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[Mailman-Users] Subscribing aliases of other lists to a mailman list

2003-11-06 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi!

I'm wondering if mailman aliases can be used to subscribe to other lists 
on the same machine. 

Example: I have [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] on the same machine. I 
configure my mta that it uses [EMAIL PROTECTED] as senderaddress and 
that it has a valid mailaddress, where I can recive mails. After that i 
write with the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] a mail to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and because of the Reply-To-header with my 
valid address i recive the confirmation. I reply the confirmation also 
with the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address and if no aproval of listadmins 
or moderators is required for a listsbuscribtion the list1-subscriebe 
address should be a member of [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Is mailman able to recognize, if anoyone wants a listsubscription with 
another mailman alias? If not, how can I make sure, that no other 
mailman aliases can be used for subscribtion?

Thanks and best regards,
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[Mailman-Users] Personalisation

2003-12-01 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi!

What do I have to set in mm_cfg-py to enable personalisation by default 
for new lists (not full personalisation). In listconfigs i saw, that

personalize = 1

would be the thing to set, but is it possible to use this setting in 
mm_cfg.py?

Thanks!
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix not sending mail

2003-12-16 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hiho Thomas!

On Di, Dez 16, 2003 at 12:49:54 +0100, Thomas Murphy wrote:
> Simon White wrote:
> >Now, if the aliases are correct, and you have run newaliases, and mail
> >is still going to the catchall, then you'll have to show an extract of
> >your aliases file, the email address you are sending to, and the
> >delivery success in the mail log for any further troubleshooting.
> 
> the email address i am sending is the mailing list:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> and i'm sending from:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> /usr/local/mailman/aliases:
> ---
> # The ultimate loop stopper address
> mailman-loop: /usr/local/mailman/data/owner-bounces.mbox
> 
> # STANZA START: netmilk-general
> # CREATED: Tue Dec 16 12:47:53 2003
> netmilk-general: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post 
> netmilk-general"
> netmilk-general-admin:   "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin 
> netmilk-general"
> netmilk-general-bounces: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces 
> netmilk-general"
> netmilk-general-confirm: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm 
> netmilk-general"
> netmilk-general-join:"|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join 
> netmilk-general"
> netmilk-general-leave:   "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave 
> netmilk-general"
> netmilk-general-owner:   "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner 
> netmilk-general"
> netmilk-general-request: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request 
> netmilk-general"
> netmilk-general-subscribe:   "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe 
> netmilk-general"
> netmilk-general-unsubscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman 
> unsubscribe netmilk-general"
> # STANZA END: netmilk-general
> 

Is there also the mailman-list in the alias file? Does mailman start 
correctly without any error message and can you see the running mailman 
processes in the process table?

> /var/log/mail:
> 
> Dec 16 12:48:56 p15135765 postfix/smtpd[1531]: connect from 
> smtprelay01.ispgateway.de[62.67.200.156]
> Dec 16 12:48:56 p15135765 postfix/smtpd[1531]: 9AD3234C187: 
> client=smtprelay01.ispgateway.de[62.67.200.156]
> Dec 16 12:48:56 p15135765 postfix/cleanup[1532]: 9AD3234C187: 
> message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Dec 16 12:48:56 p15135765 postfix/qmgr[1240]: 9AD3234C187: 
> from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=985, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
> Dec 16 12:48:56 p15135765 postfix/smtpd[1531]: disconnect from 
> smtprelay01.ispgateway.de[62.67.200.156]
> Dec 16 12:48:56 p15135765 postfix/local[1534]: 9AD3234C187: 
> to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent 
> (mailbox)
> 

Hmm, normaly there should appear the mailinglistaddress and not the 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] address. Disable the catchall via confixx temporaily and test 
if this works. I also use mailman and postfix on a rootserver from 1&1 
and it works, but first of all I kicked confixx from the machine ;-).

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix not sending mail

2003-12-16 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi Thomas!

On Di, Dez 16, 2003 at 01:52:08 +0100, Thomas Murphy wrote:
> >Hmm, normaly there should appear the mailinglistaddress and not the 
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] address. Disable the catchall via confixx temporaily and test 
> >if this works. I also use mailman and postfix on a rootserver from 1&1 
> >and it works, but first of all I kicked confixx from the machine ;-).

OK, confixx rewrites the adresses to sort mails into the right 
mailbox...

> unfortunatley, that is not an option for me ;) - because i am sharing 
> the server with someone who insists on this software.

OK.

> but i tried to disable the catchall, and now i get failure notices by 
> postfix:
> 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 217.160.217.60 does not like recipient.
> Remote host said: 550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: User unknown
> Giving up on 217.160.217.60.

Whats in the main.cf for local_recipient_maps? I have

local_recipient_maps = $alias_maps proxy:unix:passwd.byname

alials_maps is set this way:

alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases,hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases

Is confixx rewriting the main.cf file also automaticly by its cronjob? 
If not, you could sent us the main.cf file (without comments) and / or 
the output of

postconf -n

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[Mailman-Users] 2 mailman instances with postfix

2004-01-20 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi!

Is it possible to use 2 mailman installations with one postfix mta on a 
server? How do I have to configure postfix / mailman, that for example 
no problems ocure with equal listaliases in the 1. and 2. mailman 
installation. The tow mailman instances are using different domains, so 
maybe postfix can sort out somehow which alias should be used. 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Forced footer for all Mailman lists

2004-02-03 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi Aron!

On Di, Feb 03, 2004 at 05:39:37 -0500, aaron wrote:
> We need to append a forced footer message (with unsubscribe info) to all of
> the Mailman lists that we host. This needs to be done in a way that prevents
> any list admins from changing or removing the message. We thought that we
> could do this using Decorate.py, but can't seem to figure it out. Ideally,
> we would want this footer to be appended in addition to the custom list
> footer.

I integrated alterMIME into our mailsystem (postfix and mailman 2.1.14). 
alterMIME IMHO does wat you want, it adds an disclaimer to every 
outgoing mail for example. At the moment we are testing this system and 
most things appear to work fine, but in 
some cases mails are changed that way, that the listfooter is added as 
attachment, mostly if html-Mails were sent to a list. alterMIME can 
be found here:

http://www.pldaniels.com/altermime/

Hth,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Suse Standard Server 8.0

2004-03-18 Thread Christian Schoepplein
Hi!

On Do, Mär 18, 2004 at 02:46:21 +0100, Dirk Allard wrote:
> I tried to get mailman running on Suse Standard Server 8.0. Installing is no 
> problem as well as creating a mailinglist and adding users. 

Have you checked the alias file for the new list?

> Sending a mail to 
> the mailinglist seems to work to the point just before the mail is spreaded to 
> the subscribers.
>  
> Mailman version: 2.0.13 using postfix 

Hmm, this version is very old. I'd use 2.1.4 if possible, if you do a 
new installation setting up a newer mailman version by hand isnt heavy.

> Some logfile snippets: 

[...]

> -start-- 
> Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/smtpd[24384]: connect from 
> mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE[134.93.178.130] 
> Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/smtpd[24384]: 245821BDE: 
> client=mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE[134.93.178.130] 
> Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/cleanup[24385]: 245821BDE: 
> message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/qmgr[24188]: 245821BDE: 
> from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=1323, nrcpt=1 (queue active) 
> Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/smtpd[24384]: disconnect from 
> mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE[134.93.178.130] 
> Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger spamd[897]: connection from localhost [127.0.0.1] 
> at port 40536 
> Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger spamd[24391]: processing message 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for nobody:65534. 
> Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger spamd[24391]: clean message (-0.4/5.0) for 
> nobody:65534 in 0.1 seconds, 1330 bytes. 
> Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/pickup[24187]: 46C681BE1: uid=65534 
> from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/pipe[24387]: 245821BDE: 
> to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=procmail, delay=0, 
> status=sent (spamfilter) 
> Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/cleanup[24385]: 46C681BE1: 
> message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/qmgr[24188]: 46C681BE1: 
> from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=1625, nrcpt=1 (queue active) 
> Mar 18 14:28:42 staudinger postfix/lmtp[24395]: 46C681BE1: 
> to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=public/lmtp[public/lmtp], 
> delay=0, status=sent (250 2.1.5 Ok) 
> ---end--- 

There is no mailman command executed... Does postfix know about the 
mailman alias file? Are the listaliases in your systemwide alias file? 

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