[Mailman-Users] Disabling digests

2024-09-10 Thread Christian via Mailman-Users 
Hi all 

A question which came up after my problem with digests not being sent out:

If I disable digests, so that new subscribers cannot choose how to receive 
messages - what hapens to existing "digest subscribers"? Are they automatically 
merged into the normal subscribers or do they just no longer receive anything 
from that list because no digest is created? 

Mailman runs in a cPanel environment. 

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Error messages from Mailman without "real content".

2024-07-20 Thread Christian via Mailman-Users 
Hi all 

I just received the following message from our provider:

> cPanel is aware of the bug and are working to resolve it. 
> Unfortunately, we have no ET for the resolution, but we'll place this 
> ticket (7814289) on hold for now and periodically check in to 
> determine when cPanel has fixed the problem. I expect they will push 
> the fix out in an automatic update. As your server checks for 
> software updates nightly, you may be made aware of the fix before we 
> respond back.

So, it appears that there is some hope to receive meaningful error messages at 
some time...

Have you all a nice weekend,
Christian 



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[Mailman-Users] Re: Error messages from Mailman without "real content".

2024-07-16 Thread Christian via Mailman-Users 
Hi all

I just received another message from our provider, with a (newer) log attached. 

Does this tell more? 

Thank you
Christian 

> This is the content of the postauth.txt file:
> 
>> Eine E-Mail an eine Mailingliste wurde nicht verteilt und benötigt
>> eine Freigabe durch Sie als Listenmoderator:
>>
>> Liste:   %(listname)s@%(hostname)s
>> Von: %(sender)s
>> Betreff: %(subject)s
>> Grund:   %(reason)s
>>
>> Bitte besuchen Sie bei Gelegenheit
>>
>> %(admindb_url)s
>>
>> um die E-Mail zu genehmigen oder abzulehnen.
> 
> I have reinstalled Mailman but it still mentions the template file 
> postauth.txt as "broken"
> 
> The most recent entries of the error log file in the attached file
> 
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Jul 09 14:50:18 2024 (32554) broken template: 
/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/templates/de/postauth.txt
'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xe4 in position 82: ordinal not in range(128)
Jul 09 15:14:16 2024 admin(10332):  
admin(10332): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.39 -] 
admin(10332): [- Traceback --] 
admin(10332): Traceback (most recent call last):
admin(10332):   File "/usr/local/cpanel/base/3rdparty/mailman/scripts/driver", 
line 117, in run_main
admin(10332): main()
admin(10332):   File 
"/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py", line 241, in main
admin(10332): process_form(mlist, doc, cgidata)
admin(10332):   File 
"/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py", line 852, in 
process_form
admin(10332): forward, forwardaddr)
admin(10332):   File "/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", 
line 169, in HandleRequest
admin(10332): forward, addr)
admin(10332):   File "/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", 
line 367, in __handlepost
admin(10332): note += '\n\tReason: ' + comment.replace('%', '%%')
admin(10332): UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xe4 in 
position 60: ordinal not in range(128)
admin(10332): [- Python Information -] 
admin(10332): sys.version =   2.7.5 (default, Mar 21 2024, 16:55:10) 
[GCC 4.8.5 20150623 (Red Hat 4.8.5-44)] 
admin(10332): sys.executable  =   /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/python2 
admin(10332): sys.prefix  =   /usr 
admin(10332): sys.exec_prefix =   /usr 
admin(10332): sys.path=   
['/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/pythonlib', 
'/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman', 
'/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/scripts', '/usr/lib64/python27.zip', 
'/usr/lib64/python2.7', '/usr/lib64/python2.7/plat-linux2', 
'/usr/lib64/python2.7/lib-tk', '/usr/lib64/python2.7/lib-old', 
'/usr/lib64/python2.7/lib-dynload', '/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages', 
'/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages', '/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages', 
'/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/gtk-2.0', 
'/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages', '/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages', 
'/usr/lib/site-python'] 
admin(10332): sys.platform=   linux2 
admin(10332): [- Environment Variables -] 
admin(10332):   REMOTE_PASSWORD: 
cpses_mue2t9wlur[::cpses::]zb_3haEefGVIZB4GXAsX5aZ3c5LKRWue 
admin(10332):   REAL_DBOWNER: musch 
admin(10332):   DNS: mus.ch 
admin(10332):   HTTP_REFERER: 
https://mus.ch:2096/cpsess4478987539/3rdparty/mailman/admindb/infoline_mus.ch 
admin(10332):   REDIRECT_STATUS: 1 
admin(10332):   SERVER_SOFTWARE: cpsrvd 11.110.0.36 
admin(10332):   DOMAIN: mus.ch 
admin(10332):   SUBID:  
admin(10332):   HTTP_TRANSFER_ENCODING:  
admin(10332):   OPENSSL_NO_DEFAULT_ZLIB: 1 
admin(10332):   REQUEST_METHOD: POST 
admin(10332):   CPANEL: active 
admin(10332):   SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1 
admin(10332):   QUERY_STRING:  
admin(10332):   PATH:  
admin(10332):   REMOTE_DBOWNER: cpses_mue2t9wlur 
admin(10332):   cp_security_token: /cpsess4478987539 
admin(10332):   ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip, deflate, br, zstd 
admin(10332):   LANG: en_US.UTF-8 
admin(10332):   HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET:  
admin(10332):   REMOTE_USER: musch 
admin(10332):   TZ: Europe/Athens 
admin(10332):   HTTP_COOKIE: 
infoline_mus.ch+admin=2802006979298d667328003869356139383531626135303434386634336265363636633736653036643666383564663263;
 timezone=Europe/Berlin; roundcube_cookies=enabled 
admin(10332):   SERVER_NAME: mus.ch 
admin(10332):   REMOTE_PORT: 49569 
admin(10332):   PATH_TRANSLATED: 
/usr/local/cpanel/base/3rdparty/mailman/scripts/infoline_mus.ch 
admin(10332):   SERVER_PORT: 2096 
admin(10332):   IS_TRIAL: 0 
admin(10332):   HOME: /home/musch 
admin(10332):   SERVER_ADDR: 144.208.72.125 
admin(10332):   DOCUMENT_ROOT: /usr/local/cpanel/base 
admin(10332):   CONTENT_LENGTH: 350 
admin(10332):   HTTP_STATUS: 200 
admin(10332):   CURRENT_USER_UID:  
admin(10332):   PYTHONPATH: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman 
admin(10332):   UPLINK:  
admin(10332):   SCRIPT_FILENAME: 
/usr/local/cpanel/base/

[Mailman-Users] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Error messages from Mailman without "real content".

2024-07-16 Thread Christian via Mailman-Users 
Good morning Mark (and all others)

> You need to contact someone who has access to Mailman's `error` log 
> on the server. We need to see the error message and traceback from 
> the log in order to diagnose this. If this is cPanel, see 
> https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%20and%20CPanel

I enclose the file "error.txt", which hopefully is what you need to analyze the 
problem. I got it from the provider this morning. 

Thank you 

Christian 
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May 24 17:46:51 2021 mailmanctl(21949): PID unreadable in: 
/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid 
May 24 17:46:51 2021 mailmanctl(21949): [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 
'/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid' 
May 24 17:46:51 2021 mailmanctl(21949): Is qrunner even running? 
Jun 02 10:42:49 2021 mailmanctl(22277): PID unreadable in: 
/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid 
Jun 02 10:42:49 2021 mailmanctl(22277): [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 
'/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid' 
Jun 02 10:42:49 2021 mailmanctl(22277): Is qrunner even running? 
Jun 02 10:42:50 2021 mailmanctl(22308): PID unreadable in: 
/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid 
Jun 02 10:42:50 2021 mailmanctl(22308): [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 
'/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid' 
Jun 02 10:42:50 2021 mailmanctl(22308): Is qrunner even running? 
Jun 02 10:42:52 2021 mailmanctl(22471): The master qrunner lock could not be 
acquired because it appears as if another
master qrunner is already running.
Jun 02 10:42:52 2021 mailmanctl(22471): 
Jun 02 22:54:26 2021 mailmanctl(29045): The master qrunner lock could not be 
acquired because it appears as if another
master qrunner is already running.
Jun 02 22:54:26 2021 mailmanctl(29045): 
Jun 02 22:55:34 2021 mailmanctl(30358): The master qrunner lock could not be 
acquired because it appears as if another
master qrunner is already running.
Jun 02 22:55:34 2021 mailmanctl(30358): 
Dec 08 04:54:09 2021 (4506) DNSException: Unable to query DMARC policy for 
i...@zublarusa.com (_dmarc.zublarusa.com). The operation timed out.
Feb 03 23:17:08 2022 (13418) private: No such list "listname_mus.ch": 

Feb 03 23:17:08 2022 (13419) options: No such list "listname_mus.ch": 

Feb 03 23:17:08 2022 (13417) listinfo: No such list "listname_mus.ch": 
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Feb 03 23:28:20 2022 (15262) pri

[Mailman-Users] Re: Text encoding of digests

2024-02-21 Thread Christian via Mailman-Users 
Hello Mark Sapiro. On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 14:50:37 -0800, you wrote:

> If in the web admin UI you go to Language options and set 
> preferred_language to German (you may also need to select German 
> under available_languages), I think that will work, assuming the 
> current preferred_language is English.

I changed this now, and will see what happens.

> A better solution is to set the character set for English to UTF-8, 
> but that requires access to mm_cfg.py on the server, see 
> .

As you said, this is not possible with the cPanel version of Mailman. 
 
> Of course setting the list's preferred_language to German will have 
> other effects which may be unwanted such as changing the default 
> language of the web UI and translating the digest boilerplate.

This is not a problem for me, I am native German speaking, bur worked half of 
my life in companies where the office language was English :-)

Thank you
Christian 

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Mails are sent in tranches of 100

2024-02-16 Thread Christian via Mailman-Users 
Hello Andreas Grupp via Mailman-Users. On Fri, 16 Feb 2024 12:34:35 +0100, you 
wrote:

> An > e-mail to a list of 600+ members is sent in tranches of 100 
> e-mails per sending process. 

Possible that your SMTP server has a sending limit per hour or so? 

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Good Commercial Mailman Hosts?

2023-11-03 Thread Christian via Mailman-Users 
Hello Michael Reeder -- Hygeia MS. On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 10:36:47 -0400, you wrote:

> I'm hoping you all could point me towards some good commercial 
> providers that offer Mailman lists to customers?

I think Mailman (version 2, not 3) is included in all offers that contain 
cPanel as a front-end.

> Bonus points if they are also web hosting accounts, and bonus points 
> for lower cost as this is a volunteer effort I'm paying for 
> out-of-pocket for the community.

Contact digimouse.eu for details on their offers - 
.

Christian 

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Delayed messages

2022-10-08 Thread Christian via Mailman-Users 
Hello Robert Heller. On Sat,  8 Oct 2022 09:28:50 -0400 (EDT), you wrote:

> What sorts of e-mail addresses are delayed.  Are *all* users seeing 
> delays or only some (eg only people with @yahoo.com or 
> @hotmail.com addresses?).

It concerns all addresses - even those who are on the same server / same 
domain. 

> Do you have access to your server's mail queue?  Do you have command-line 
> access to your server?

No, unfortunately not. It is a cPanel installation on a virtual server. 

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[Mailman-Users] Delayed messages

2022-10-08 Thread Christian via Mailman-Users 
Good morning 

I have several unmoderated lists on Mailman 2.1.38 running on cPanel (106.0.8). 

The messages sent to the lists are almost immediately visible in the list 
archives, but are sent to the subscribers with a - sometimes huge - delay. 
Mostly it is 20 - 40 minutes, but sometimes it is more than one hour. 

This makes replying difficult for the users because they might give an answer 
which is already given by someone else, or they miss a clarification. 

Is this normal to Mailman 2 on cPanel, or is there any possibility to speed up 
the message delivery? 

Thank you, Christian   

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Reply-to addresses

2022-03-27 Thread Christian via Mailman-Users 
Hi Michael  

I don’t think you have a problem here. The "From:"-address will probably look 
like this:

"Firstname Lastname usern...@domain.com" 

This means that the original sender’s address is in the "realname" (or 
"comment")-part of the address field. The sender appears still to be 
 and replies should go there - unless your list is set 
to deliver replies only to the original sender (as it is here in the Mailman 
list). 

Christian 


Hello Michael Welch. On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 13:05:12 -0700, you wrote:
> Hello friends. We are using Mailman through Dreamhost, which doesn't 
> allow us to change server-based list configurations, we only have 
> access to the Admin's normal Options pages.
> 
> After years of working fine, we'd recently been having bouncing 
> problems specifically with gmail addresses.
> 
> Thinking this was Dreamhost's problem, and not mine, I queried 
> Dreamhost support, and they looked over a bounced message. Their 
> suggestions are pasted below. I changed from_is_list to Munge From 
> but now the reply to headers have both the list address and the 
> original sender's address. So I assume the original sender gets sent 
> two copies of responses, one from the list and the other directly to 
> them.
> 
> I've spent some time over the years trying to train them to not use 
> Reply to All to avoid that double message situation, and now it's 
> happening even with just a regular Reply.
> 
> I'm hoping I can fix this easily. I know a little about this stuff, 
> but I'm basically just a list manager, not a full-on sysop, so please 
> be gentle in your terminology and instruction.
> 
>  From Dreamhost support:
>> Taking a look into the 're-wrenches-re-wrenches.org' list, the bounce
>> errors point to possible DMARC issues with the list post going out. But,
>> the 're-wrenches-re-wrenches.org' list does not look to have 'Munge From'
>> enabled on the list right now, so you'll want to log into the list and
>> enable that on the 'General Options' page for that list.
>> 
>> Along with that, the list sub-domain didn't have our SPF, so I've added
>> it for you since the domain is managing DNS services with us as well:
>> 
>> lists.re-wrenches.org.  300 IN  TXT "v=spf1 mx
>> include:netblocks.dreamhost.com include:relay.mailchannels.net -all"
>> 
>> That was setup on the 'Websites' > 'DNS Settings' page on your account
>> for the 're-wrenches.org' domain.
>> 
>> Having both above set will help to better the outgoing relays of the
>> posts, so set the 'Munge From' and let us know if you're still seeing the
>> same bounce as before. 
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Plus addressing

2022-03-22 Thread Christian via Mailman-Users 
Hello robertowenbere...@gmail.com. On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 14:01:58 -, you 
wrote:

> Does the list support plus addressing?
> Google and O365 support plus addressing.  This allows someone to 
> subscribe as myself+li...@mycompany.com when their real email address 
> is mys...@company.com.  The problem is that when they reply, or 
> generate a new message, it may be held or rejected because it is 
> coming from an address different than they subscribed with. 

Instead of using "Plus addressing", in most (if not all) mail programs it is 
possible to set up rules for messages coming from a certain source. This rule 
can sort messages from mailinglist1 in one mail folder, and messages from 
mailinglist2 in another folder. 

Christian 

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[Mailman-Users] Re: illegal BOM

2022-02-03 Thread Christian via Mailman-Users 
Hello Mark Sapiro. On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 14:31:11 -0800, you wrote:

>>> X-Ham-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system
>>> "crift.digimouse.eu", has NOT identified this incoming email as
>>> spam.  The original message has been attached to this so you can view
>>> it or label similar future email.  If you have any questions, see
>>> root\@localhost for details. Content preview:  systemerweiterungen,
>>> benutzer, dein account, startobjekte: ist da noch was drin? Jean-Luc
>>> Aeby CH-4052 Basel > Am 03.02.2022 um 09:05 schrieb Max Röthlisberger
>>> Mus : > > Guten Morgen zusammen > > Mein MacBook Pro,
>>> OS 10.11.6 sucht zu Hause nach einem Neustart 4 - 5 > mal im Heimnetz
>>> den ? [...]  Content analysis details:   (-0.0 points, 4.0 required)
>>> pts rule name  description  --
>>> -- 0.0
>>> URIBL_BLOCKED  ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was
>>> blocked.  See
>>> http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for
>>> more information. [URIs: mus.ch] -0.0 BAYES_40   BODY:
>>> Bayes spam probability is 20 to 40% [score: 0.2865] -0.0
>>> SPF_PASS   SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0
>>> KAM_SHORT  Use of a URL Shortener for very short URL -0.0
>>> T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE   No description available.
> ...
> 
> 
> This is the only header in the message that looks suspicious. I 
> suspect the `?` characters are actually non-ascii characters in an 
> unencoded header and that's the problem. I think whatever is adding 
> this header (SpamExperts ?) is the root of the problem. If this can 
> be configured to not add that X-Ham-Report: header, that may solve 
> the issue.

Ah, I see - the ? in this part: " den ? [...]  Content analysis details" seems 
to replace a curly quote. 

I’ll contact the provider whether it is possible to switch off the spam 
detection software for our lists. 

> Or, you could patch 
> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/view/head:/Mailman/Handlers/Cleanse.py#L62
>  
> and add
> ```
> del msg['X-Ham-Report']
> ```
> to have Mailman remove it. That may help.

Thank you so much 
Christian 

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[Mailman-Users] Re: illegal BOM

2022-02-03 Thread Christian via Mailman-Users 
Hello Mark Sapiro. On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 11:28:00 -0800, you wrote:
> On 2/3/22 09:24, Christian via Mailman-Users wrote:
>> Hello Carl Zwanzig. On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 17:12:37 +, you wrote:
>> 
>>>>   From tine to time I get bounce messages (for several recipients,
>>>> today 4 of a total of 165) with the folloeing content:
>>> 
>>> Are those coming from the same recipients? same hosts? (same sender?)
>>> Looking for any commonality between failures.
>> 
>> Today I saw two different mail hosts reporting this error.
> 
> 
> But the question is was the poster or the poster's domain the same?

Today it was 1 single message - bounced from 4 destination addresses. 

> Can you post the headers of the message as sent from the list?

Of course. Here it is: 

> Return-path: 
> Received: from [::1] (port=42372 helo=crift.digimouse.eu) by 
> crift.digimouse.eu with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from 
> ) id 1nFYkI-0003Yb-SS for i...@jlaeby.ch; 
> Thu, 03 Feb 2022 11:49:41 +0200
> Received: from nx5.node01.servicehoster.ch ([194.191.24.205]:20285) 
> by crift.digimouse.eu with esmtps (TLS1.2) tls 
> TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from 
> ) id 1nFYjS-0003XH-W4 for listn...@mus.ch; Thu, 03 
> Feb 2022 11:48:50 +0200
> Received: from web16.servicehoster.ch ([194.191.24.26]) by 
> node01.servicehoster.ch with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) 
> (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nFYij-001AvF-TE for 
> listn...@mus.ch; Thu, 03 Feb 2022 10:48:08 +0100
> X-SecureMailgate-Identity: supp...@jlaeby.ch;web16.servicehoster.ch
> Received: from mailproxy1.servicehoster.ch 
> (mailproxy1.servicehoster.ch [194.191.24.249]) (Authenticated sender: 
> supp...@jlaeby.ch) by web16.servicehoster.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA 
> id E1292283C33; Thu,  3 Feb 2022 10:48:04 +0100 (CET)
> X-SecureMailgate-Identity: supp...@jlaeby.ch;web16.servicehoster.ch
> From: Jean-Luc Aeby 
> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0)
> Message-Id: <49cc4583-c039-4298-aab0-486d8f38d...@jlaeby.ch>
> References: <61fb806e.1000...@gmx.net>
> In-Reply-To: <61fb806e.1000...@gmx.net>
> To: My Listname 
> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2022 10:47:57 +0100
> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (19C63)
> X-PPP-Message-ID: <20220203094805.1919589.44...@web16.servicehoster.ch>
> X-PPP-Vhost: jlaeby.ch
> X-Originating-IP: 194.191.24.26
> X-SpamExperts-Domain: web16.servicehoster.ch
> X-SpamExperts-Username: 194.191.24.26
> Authentication-Results: servicehoster.ch; auth=pass 
> smtp.auth=194.191.24...@web16.servicehoster.ch
> X-SpamExperts-Outgoing-Class: ham
> X-SpamExperts-Outgoing-Evidence: Combined (0.10)
> X-Recommended-Action: accept
> X-Filter-ID: 
> Pt3MvcO5N4iKaDQ5O6lkdGlMVN6RH8bjRMzItlySaT9GLtin6l+txdElILq/dTaMPUtbdvnXkggZ 
> 3YnVId/Y5jcf0yeVQAvfjHznO7+bT5zfUDJC12yq1R+0xYTXupxIc6njMu1JKD+SITWju70qDXH+ 
> ctc+dpw7gdML3GJ/0msh55uqY3MhMgFAHq5BxPxP12vLaykrv/CV1HIsS0W0SG32PVOyyTq65KCP 
> Edd+aVdouAN+Zcq4K4WoYagN8ZM67Ra46+udvgcY+rhDPo0c5ehyDmer8lEHke3c0U1vejiaLU28 
> xfGxbJc3Fnwf/OFlpRmoji2HEHffcAOeAvCLnizdCoyd6Zso1A7DhSLZDZQUx7MG2wf4WvmVq0gI 
> vEpMsXte0CH4ExjoF85tff90A1HUoVwaoyKiseY5we892IYad3lsxkDrjYxAaP1hGz0QyGcCgytU 
> Mu2J9HJXA1Uo4AZeFq5fAXGcSKKeqh8qGBjw2YHxywJjv0+YZf/72FgeUHn+gnmsNLchHhymY5JU 
> 63hy/sIYQHSrltYx0aSLXrZBb28w2O5AZdbWNIkO3NCjZ7FYVl/BQ3QKsAVBVEjkrDhrjIHsvvRj 
> yQOzr25FPf/Deo2F/515C8kJ0QodJwfrmFGs5lmow6gOzU/CbOds0gEiRQv+PVjjwa+Z5RFCOMSX 
> MmfzoxaPyOgXrgXEjk0eWpEhCmdLpqjaP3jDB9QvXusM54wVAOlSD/zV8CCZm5fiIYr6oi6Wy76P 
> yMRvkvurVV8gVB0OrHv2q11HcBSY0iz3XgtqLDENrnN+u7byfLqgZZAS9m5ZAKg1qGreZOdFq+KD 
> +HSe3QqOtbfvew+T8Jp7R/SyQ9MaPLuQ4OIexWoNiXzTEv0SLu34PBxzuERAwdRWk4myhKHuwgYs 
> 2PEJ3MA/9xGgj7taJxWtHZ97uYqOu5TxNefgMpX+DiV6TZ5Nw6nIoDr0sXUZ7YZoZ/GZ+hFN0x52 
> 3WxNmc+AvCalCmRJm84B1u1bEoWAFvHljuWaLNLnnkkL94kTQnbQ9bsMgGb3QSxTuhF3dtWcgZsS 
> 3iwqNR+YJaQAd+G4qbVmYoTDcSLZOai+Ves9Dekd80QunVT5zsfLy3aWiU9bQJYdgWKzrSl9uYny 
> uRAIXyrYCHbl
> X-Report-Abuse-To: s...@node01.servicehoster.ch
> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0
> X-Spam-Score: 0
> X-Spam-Bar: /
> X-Ham-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system 
> "crift.digimouse.eu", has NOT identified this incoming email as 
> spam.  The original message has been attached to this so you can view 
> it or label similar future email.  If you have any questions, see 
> root\@localhost for details. Content preview:  systemerweiterungen, 
> benutzer, dein account, startobjekte: ist da noch was drin? Jean-Luc 
> Aeby CH-4052 Basel > Am 03.02.2022 um 09:05 schrieb Max Röthlisberger 
> Mus : > > Guten Morgen zusammen > > Mein MacBook Pro, 
> OS 10.11.6 sucht zu Hause nach einem Neustart 4 - 5 > mal im Heimnetz 
> den ? [...]  Content analysis details:   (-0.0 points, 4.0 required)

[Mailman-Users] Re: illegal BOM

2022-02-03 Thread Christian via Mailman-Users 
Hello Carl Zwanzig. On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 17:12:37 +, you wrote:

>>  From tine to time I get bounce messages (for several recipients, 
>> today 4 of a total of 165) with the folloeing content:
> 
> Are those coming from the same recipients? same hosts? (same sender?) 
> Looking for any commonality between failures.

Today I saw two different mail hosts reporting this error. 

Thank you

Christian 
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[Mailman-Users] illegal BOM

2022-02-03 Thread Christian via Mailman-Users 
Hi all

I have some mailing lists running on cPanel 100.0.7 / Mailman 2.1.37. 

>From tine to time I get bounce messages (for several recipients, today 4 of a 
>total of 165) with the folloeing content:

Action: failed
Final-Recipient: rfc822;...@yyy.ch
Status: 5.0.0
Remote-MTA: dns; mx02.tophost.ch
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 Headers contain illegal byte order mark (BOM)

Not all messages to these subscibers (or mailhosts) are bouncing, only few of 
them. What could be the reason for this? Is this a Mailman problem, or a 
problem of the mail program used by the writer of the bounced message? 

Thank you
Christian 

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Listservers currently hosted with EMWD - urgent request for assistance

2022-01-04 Thread Christian via Mailman-Users 
Hello Jonathan Ashby. On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 14:22:41 +, you wrote:

> I am unaware that EMWD changed anything so I am at a loss as to why 
> they stopped working.
> 
> The EMWD hosting is on Postorius version 1.3.3
> 
> Mailman Core Version - GNU Mailman 3.3.1 (Tom Sawyer)
> Mailman Core API Version - 3.1
> Mailman Core Python Version - 3.7.3 (default, Dec 20 2019, 18:57:59) 
> [GCC 8.3.0]

Since this list mainly covers Mailman 2, you would probably be better off if 
you use this list: 
mailman-us...@mailman3.org
.

But, of course, if you did not change anything and EMWD does not answer your 
requests, it is difficult to say what the reason is - no matter which list you 
use...

Good luck 
Christian  
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Listservers currently hosted with EMWD - urgent request for assistance

2022-01-04 Thread Christian via Mailman-Users 
Hello Jonathan Ashby. On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 13:24:02 +, you wrote:

> We have our listservers hosted with EMWD which stopped working on 23 
> December. 

For no apparent reason? Or did EMWD change something on their servers?

> We have since found out the devastating news that Brian 
> Carpenter passed away last year. Brian was really helpful when we 
> moved our listservers from a legacy system to hosting on the EMWD 
> platform. My sincere condolences to his family and friends.

This news was mentioned here some time ago, and I also miss his answers. 
However, Mark Sapiro wrote on June 5, 2021: "His family is continuing EMWDs 
services". Their website is still up and advertises Mailman 2 and Mailman 3 
hosting services. 

> As we can no longer get a response from EMWD about our listserver 
> issue I was wondering if any one else in this community could help.

It may just be because of the holidays that you did not get an answer from 
EMWD. However, you might want to tell us 

- is the EMWD hosting you have using cPanel for your administration
- what (if anything) did you (or any of the people having access) change on the 
list settings? 

I am sure there are many people here who want to help. 

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[Mailman-Users] Re: I'm on Microsoft's blocklist again!

2021-12-07 Thread Christian via Mailman-Users 
Hello Jayson Smith. On Tue, 7 Dec 2021 12:49:51 -0500, you wrote:

> Just over two weeks since I found myself on Microsoft's blocklist and 
> was manually removed, I find myself back on their blocklist again. 
> Possibly coincidentally, this morning MXToolbox informed me that 
> Linode has apparently found itself back on Uceprotectl3. 

I had yesterday the same issue with a different provider on the recipient’s 
side. I asked my hosting provider and his answer was:

> uceprotect has the reputation of a scam blackmail service. I have 
> asked for delisting (although there was no reason for blacklisting to 
> begin with). Please, allow up to 36 hours for delisting.

Best wishes 
Christian 


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