Re: [Mailman-Users] Making a Mailman legacy archive searchable?

2014-05-23 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Fri, 23 May 2014, Peter Weyland wrote:

> Anyone recommend a searchable archive for MM? We are up to date with version 
> 2.1.18

I like swish-e

http://swish-e.org/


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[Mailman-Users] Setting hard limit on message size for mailman

2012-02-07 Thread Christopher X. Candreva

Is there a setting I could use to limit the size of a message mailman will 
process, that even a list owner can't approve to get around ?



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Stripping sig files

2010-12-17 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Fri, 17 Dec 2010, Paul Tomblin wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 9:24 AM, bruce clark  wrote:
> > My problem: the users on my lists are waging a low-level war with their sig
> > files. I do not allow commercial posting so they have started creating sig
> > files with their commercial messages inside them.
> >
> 
> You're not going to solve a social problem with technology.  If people
> are violating the terms of the list, boot them off until they agree to
> follow the terms of the list.

Or, moderate the list amd reject any posts with such a sig, explaining why.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Search tool for Mailman Archives

2010-12-09 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, Liste Yoneticisi wrote:

> Hello;
> 
> I am trying to implement a search tool for Mailman Archives.

I've always liked swish for indexing web sites and mailing list archives

http://www.swish-e.org/

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Preventing from getting on spam list

2010-09-28 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010, Hung Phan wrote:

> We are a school district which sends out legitimate messages about school 
> information to parents but last week, we were tagged by spamrats as 
> spammer. An important message did not reach all the subscribers because 
> the local ISP which hosts many of our parents' emails, subscribes to 
> spamrats as one of the anti-spam source.

Talk to the local ISP, tell them you are a school. They should be able to 
whitelist you locally.

If they won't, tell the parents what happened, and suggest they use a 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Soft bounces....

2009-04-03 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Charles Gregory wrote:

> Yahoo expects me to respond promptly to 5xx bounces, disabling any
> subscriptions, otherwise it starts generating 'greylist' 4xx bounces for my
> mail. Unfortunately, if I try to lower the bounce threshold, the now-daily
> occurence of 4xx bounces guarantees that all yahoo addresses will end up

This doesn't quite make sense, because 4xx isn't a bounce. It's a delay code 
to your mail server to try again later.

sendmail, by default, generates a warning back to the sender if it hasn't 
been able to deliver it for 4 hours, and that notice MIGHT be interpreted as 
a bounce, but that's the only thing I could think of.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Any way to prevent un-subscribing?

2008-10-01 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008, Elizabeth Schwartz wrote:

>  I've been asked to prevent the students from un-subscribing. Is there
> a way to do that in any version of mailman? And/or any other
> convenient mechanism?  The list is a bit unwieldy for plain email

Under "Privacy options" you can enable the option "Is the list moderator's 
approval required for unsubscription requests"

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Re: [Mailman-Users] changes at aol

2008-08-13 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008, Larry Stone wrote:

> That's not a "Message ID", that's a queue ID. And yes, I do the same
> thing.

Ah yes, of course you are right.

As you said though -- either way, it works. :-)


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Re: [Mailman-Users] changes at aol

2008-08-13 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008, Mark Sapiro wrote:

> I'm confused. How do you use the Message-ID for this? Even when
> messages are fully personalized, every recipient's message has the
> Message-ID of the original, incoming message.

It may depend on how your MTA is set up. On my lists, there is an internal 
Received: line where the mailman machine hands off the message to itself. 
That message ID allows me to lookup the recipient despite AOL's obfuscation.

Here's an example from a test list, luckly someone just tested it:
(Mycroft is the border mail machine, Friday is the web/mailman server)
If I had a complaint I would look up message ID m7DF2jJX008532 on 
host Friday. 

Received: from friday.westnet.com (Friday.westnet.com [216.187.52.6])
by westnet.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m7DF301M001618
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:03:01 -0400 (EDT)

Received: from friday.westnet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by friday.westnet.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m7DF2jJX008532
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:02:45 -0400 (EDT)

Received: from Mycroft.westnet.com (Mycroft.westnet.com [216.187.52.7])
by friday.westnet.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m7DF1ddZ008518
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:01:44 -0400 (EDT)


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.10rc1 has been released

2008-04-15 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Mark Sapiro wrote:

> This is a security and bug fix release and it is highly recommended
> that all sites upgrade to this version. Mailman 2.1.10 also adds support

Quick clarification: It's somewhat unusuall for it to be recommended that 
all sites upgrade to a release candidate. Am I to understand that the 
recommendation is for sites running 2.1.9 release updates to the 2.1.10rc1 
-- or just those running previous 2.1.10 betas ?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] merging 2 mbox files

2008-03-22 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, Mark Heer wrote:

> reproduced the file just as I had concatenated it. Is there a way to merge 
> 2 same list mboxes into 1 properly sequenced mbox?

If this is a one-time thing for the transition, you could load them into a 
mail program, move all the messages to a single folder, sort the folder 
by date, then save all to another folder again. I've done this with Pine. 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] httpd.conf Rewrite rules with ZOPE to use mailman.

2007-12-02 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Sat, 1 Dec 2007, Ignacio Valdes wrote:

> I'm running a Zope instance that requires me to have re-write rules
> (below) in httpd.conf that are not compatible with Mailman. I can use
> mailman if I don't use the Zope re-write rules or I can use Zope but
> not mailman with the re-write rules below. This seems like a black art
> to me. Is there a way to change the re-write rules so that they both
> work at the same time? Thanks!

The easiest thing may be to set up another NameVirtualHost  
mailman.brainimagingnews.net  to run mailman that doesn't have the re-write 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Uncaught bounce notification - Out-of-Office

2007-07-24 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Barry Finkel wrote:

> Are there plans for Mailman to be able to intercept out-of-office
> replies and ignore them?  Or is the format of the text too variable
> to be able to parse the OOO message?  

I've solved this problem locally using a procmail rule, and I think the 
method could be implemented in mailman itself if others thought it 
worthwhile. I only send on to mailman messages that match 
procmail's FROM_MAILER check, anything else is sent directly to a human.
My theory is if the message isn't from a mailer-daemon, than it probably 
isn't a bounce.

For those not familiar with procmail, FROM_MAILER expands to a faily 
complicated regex designed to catch mail from any mailer-daemon.

 `(^(((Resent-)?(From|Sender)|X-Envelope-From):
 |>?From )([^>]*[^([EMAIL PROTECTED])?(Post(ma(st(er)?|n)|office)
 |(send)?Mail(er)?|daemon|mmdf|n?uucp|ops|r(esponse|oot)
 |(bbs\.)?smtp(error)?|s(erv(ices?|er)|ystem)
 |A(dmin(istrator)?|MMGR))(([^).!:a-z0-9][-_a-z0-9]*)?[%@>\t
 ][^<)]*(\(.*\).*)?)?$([^>]|$))'


The aliases entry looks like this:
listname-bounces:   \
"|/usr/local/bin/procmail -m  /etc/mail/listname-bounces.rc"

listname-bounces.mc has:

# Only send stuff from the mailer to mailman
:0
* ^FROM_MAILER
| /home/mailman/mail/mailman bounces listname

#Everything else to a human
:0
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Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's "Client TOS Notification"

2007-07-14 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Dave Dewey wrote:

> Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  

Wow, maybe I'm just lucky.

Is your server on the AOL whitelist ? 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's "Client TOS Notification"

2007-07-14 Thread Christopher X. Candreva

> VERP doesn't work any longer for these, as of a couple months ago.
> They now redact ALL information that can be used to identify the
> user, including verp'd addresses.

As of June ( the last one I received) they only removed the list name part, 
so you get a line like this
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Where user is the actually user name at AOL.
It's usually fairly easy to figure out what list it was.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's "Client TOS Notification"

2007-07-14 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Larry Stone wrote:

> That's unfortunate. At this point, what's the point of getting them if they
> won't give you any useful information as to who doesn't want the list mail
> they requested.

It's not really supposed to be usefull on a per-mail basis, rather as a way 
of spotting trends -- a new bad-apple customer, a comrpromised script, 
virus-infected user, etc.

I have one client with a list that has one person on it who, without fail, 
reports every message as spam, yet claims he isn't and that he wants the 
messages.   I've given up -- The server is on AOL's whitelist, they've never 
blocked it, and I have it on authority from the former heard of AOL's 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting the FONT globally for the mailman GUI?

2007-04-25 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Brad Knowles wrote:

> project) would agree.  However, who's actually going to write the 
> code to do this?  When is that going to be incorporated into the 
> mainstream codebase, and for which version?

Is there a standard template library for Python, ala Template::Toolkit for 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Slow delivery

2007-03-10 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007, Brad Knowles wrote:

> >  This is a common misconception of what IDENT is/was for.  IDENT was not

> I know what the purpose of IDENT is.  I wrote the original sendmail FAQ entry
> on this subject back in 1995.

Sorry, automatic response of the fingers, usually reserved for IRC operators 
who somehow think accepting connections only from hosts running IDENT does 
something for them.

In fact it's so automatic I have the funny feeling I'm commited this same 
faux pass with you before.

-Chris

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Slow delivery

2007-03-09 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Fri, 9 Mar 2007, Brad Knowles wrote:

> So Phil says that he runs a trustworthy IDENT server on his box. 
> Fine.  But plenty of spammers, phishers, and other nefarious types 
> out there will try to use IDENT as another vector to exploit for use 
> in breaking into your system, or for tricking you into believing 
> whatever lies they want you to believe.

This is a common misconception of what IDENT is/was for.  IDENT was not 
intended to provide reliable authentication, as to who owned a connection. 
Rather, IDENT was a way of providing information such that a sysadmin could 
figure out later which of their own users had done something bad, or had 
their account compromised.

People then started using it this way, possibly due to the inclusion in tcp 
wrappers, but as I recall it wasn't the original purpose.

In other words, as the recipient I have no reason to trust the string. But 
if I am on the reciving end of an attack from a multi-user machine and am 
reporting it to the owner of the machine, I would give them the IDENT data I 
capture so they can better track what happened on their machine.
And even on a non-multi user machine, it could help narrow down what process 
was compromised.

There was at least one IDENT server that would return a seemingly random 
string, that could be decrypted by the sysadmin to know what the account was 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

2006-12-08 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, Barry Warsaw wrote:

> Have I mentioned recently how long I've been looking for a volunteer  
> to help make all this not suck?  ;}  Pipermail is just one of those  
> things that people either live with or ditch.

I've used Hypermail for probably a decade to archive Majordomo lists.
It makes web archives from mbox files natively.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't run mm_cfg.py

2006-06-01 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Thu, 1 Jun 2006, Carl Fink wrote:

> I'm unable to configure Mailman, because when I edit and run mm_cfg.py

You don't run mm_cfg.py  You just edit it.

It contains values that are then read by the other programs when they run.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Has anyone actually implemented Postfix address verification for their sites?

2006-05-07 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Sun, 7 May 2006, Brad Knowles wrote:

>   I'm curious to know -- Postfix has this address verification 
> feature, which is kind of like greylisting.  Basically, before a 
> message from a given envelope sender will be accepted, the system has 
> to get a confirmation that the registered MXes for that envelope 
> sender domain will at least appear to accept messages for that sender.


This does not scale. Please do not turn this on.

If everyone did this, it would mean when someone forges my domain into a 
spam run, my servers will be hammered by all these requests to verify this 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Automated announcements

2006-05-04 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Thu, 4 May 2006, Mike Brudenell wrote:

> For example we recently moved from running our lists service using an old 
> MLM package to GNU Mailman.  One of the things some of our users are 
> missing is the ability to set up a repeating post to remind people of 
> etiquette on the list and point them to the FAQ.  Previously they could do 

Different problem. Sending a repeated static message monthly is one thing. 
You could probably modify the password reminder to do that.

Sending a daily custom message is something else.  You have a custom 
scheduler of what granularity ? How much scripting will it allow for custom 
fields ? Is your GUI person going to be able to do that ? Will he need a 
full GUI editor that allows the insertion of tags for dates, pulling fields
from a database, running snipits of code to obtain that day's URL ? How will 
you check that for injection of malicious code ?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Automated announcements

2006-05-03 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Tue, 2 May 2006, Robert Seymour wrote:

> I would like to send out announcement emails M-F (in cron?) stating
> something like "Check out todays cartoon at
> http://birdbreath.com/images1/20060502.png"; with the dated file name
> changing each day.

> Does Mailman have the capability to do this? If so, where can I find

No, but you don't need it to. It's a separate problem.  Mailman's job is 
simply to distribute mail sent to it to all members. What you are looking 
for is something that will generate a dated e-mail at a given time to "some 
address" .  That "some address" happens to be a mailing list is irrelavant.

That's the beauty of breakign problems into little pieces, and solving each 
piece.

Really, all you want is some little script to generate an e-mail with a 
dated link and send it to the mailing list address.  A few lines of shell or 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman vs yahoogroups

2006-05-03 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Tue, 2 May 2006, Ted Ernst wrote:

> I suggested using mailman hosted by mayfirst.org and that was accepted.  We
> now have two lists.  Problem is, it's not like yahoogroups.  I don't care,

What aspect of Yahoogroups is it that they need ? No two things are exactly 
like, so either there is a particular feature or features they want, or they 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce issues with Yahoo

2006-03-01 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Wed, 1 Mar 2006, Greg Lindahl wrote:

> Like most people who've been running mailing lists for 20+ years, I

Funny, I would have guessed this was your first, comming from a marketing 
background with the selfishness you are showing.

> have strong opinions about list policy. Please address the mechanism
> I asked for instead of seeking to discuss the policy issues.

Would you like to provide the IP of your mailman server, so we can block 
just that and not your whole domain ?

Sorry, when you get 1,000 AN HOUR of autoreplies for mail you didn't send 
you look at it differently.

But you want operational,  put SpamAssassin or some other filter in front so 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce issues with Yahoo

2006-03-01 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Wed, 1 Mar 2006, Greg Lindahl wrote:

> Yahoo users. Well, that's because I get a lot of incoming spam from
> fake Yahoo accounts to my Mailman, and I have it configured to send
> back a "you aren't a member" message.
> 
> Is there any way to suppress "you aren't a member" only for Yahoo
> senders?

How about supressing them all together, so you aren't part of a DDOS attack 
on the people forged into the spam ?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Goodmail spells doom for mailing lists?

2006-02-18 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Jonathan Dill wrote:

> Has anyone talked about the changes planned by AOL, Yahoo! etc. to 
> require "certification" via Goodmail or just be blocked?
> 
> http://www.clickz.com/news/article.php/3581301

It's been beaten to death -- at this point I can't recall if here or on 
other lists.  Essentially it means nothing. AOL backpedaled the next day 
saying it wasn't a press release, they aren't requiring anything, blah blah 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] auto-rejecting non-member posts

2006-02-17 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Brad Knowles wrote:

>   The reason they're still asking on the list?  Because they sent
> messages on this subject months ago which were simply discarded instead of
> being bounced, and they were never notified.

Then someone should be going through them by hand, or put them through 
SpamAssassin or something else.

>   No, you don't want to generate blowback to forged addresses.  But
> simply sending back a message saying that your post has been held for
> moderation is a form of blowback that is being generated today on most
> Mailman-hosted mailing lists.

And it has come up here also that SpamAssassin or some such should be in the 
pipeline first. Blindly replying to all of it is bad.




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Re: [Mailman-Users] auto-rejecting non-member posts

2006-02-17 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Tim Perdue wrote:

> I'm getting flooded under requests to approve spammer posts to 
> lists.gforge.org and wondered if there was a way to auto-reject 
> non-member posts instead of sending them to me for approval.

If you do anything, please discard and not reject.  The from address on spam 
is almost always forged, and we have users getting thousands of rejects, 
bounces, and warnings a day for mail they didn't send.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] no confirmation required?

2006-02-17 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, kalin mintchev wrote:

> right...  spamming about cancer awareness or wedding dresses si...
> i kinda explained that i'm aware of this argument...
> 
> the other option is to lose those clients

The other option is to risk being put on a blacklist for running a 
non-compliant mailing list.

Forget spam. A mailing list that does not require a response to a 
confirmation before subscribing an address can be abused for a DOS attack. 
Suppose I don't like you, and decide to subscribe you to 1,000 mailing 
lists.

If they require confirmation, you get 1,000 confirmation messages and it is 
over.

If they DON'T require confirmation, you are now on 1,000 lists that you need 
to track down and unsubscribe from.

Explained this way I've yet to loose a mailing list customer.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] GMane?

2006-02-15 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006, John A. Martin wrote:

> Not only is this list, Mailman-Users, but also Mailman-Announce and
> Mailman-Developers appear to have simultaneously disappeared from
> Gmane.  Is there someone who doesn't like Gmane?  If so, please
> explain your objections.  Many lists use Gmane with satisfaction.  Why
> should the Mailman lists be different?

Actually you are answering your own question. This was discussed on the list 
BEFORE they were removed. However since you were reading via newsgroups -- 
you missed it.

I always wondered how people could possibly post a question that had been 
beated to death on a list all day, and I'm starting to think newsgroup 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman stagger script?

2006-01-25 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006, Mark Sapiro wrote:

> Daniel/The Fold wrote:
 
> >I was told by my hosting company that I need to pick a mailing list 
> >manager for my 14,000+ subscriber e-mail list that would stagger the 
> >sending of the email to something like 300 e-mails per hour to lower the 

> Where is this list hosted? Is it on your server or at the hosting
> company. If it's your box and you have your own outgoing MTA, this
> shouldn't be an issue for the hosting company other than the bandwidth
> on your connection if they provide that.

Dan, do you know how long it is taking  to send to this list now ? Might it 
make a difference if you did this at night / off-hours ?

Mark & John are right about the time, unless this is a once a week type of 
thing sending at that rate is going to get backlogged.

If this is the site for the band that on the domain you mailed from I'm 
guessing they/you are on a budget. If you get to the looking for a new host 
stage contact me off list, I'll see what I can do.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug in 2.1.7, can't edit Public HTML pages & text files

2006-01-11 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Tokio Kikuchi wrote:

> Sorry for the inconvenience but I've put a new bug in the code while tighten
> up the security of the script.  Work around is to put a line
> 
> import re
> 
> in the top part of the Mailman/Cgi/edithtml.py.
> 
> The bug was reported in
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1400128&group_id=103&atid=100103

Thanks, sorry I missed the existing bug. I really did check !

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[Mailman-Users] Bug in 2.1.7, can't edit Public HTML pages & text files

2006-01-10 Thread Christopher X. Candreva

Mailman is telling me there is a bug whenever I try to submit a page from 
the "Edit the public HTML pages and text files" menu. The page returned 
says:

Bug in Mailman version 2.1.7

We're sorry, we hit a bug!

Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of 
traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but 
the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. 

The most usefull thing I've found in the logs is:

Jan 10 15:52:55 2006 admin(6592): 

admin(6592): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.7 -]
admin(6592): [- Traceback --]
admin(6592): Traceback (most recent call last):
admin(6592):   File "/home/mailman/scripts/driver", line 101, in run_main
admin(6592): main()
admin(6592):   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/edithtml.py", line 125, in 
main
admin(6592): ChangeHTML(mlist, cgidata, template_name, doc)
admin(6592):   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/edithtml.py", line 160, in 
ChangeHTML
admin(6592): code = re.sub(r'<([/]?script.*?)>', r'<\1>', code)
admin(6592): NameError: global name 're' is not defined
admin(6592): [- Python Information -]
admin(6592): sys.version =   2.4.2 (#1, Nov 11 2005, 14:28:34)
[GCC 3.4.4]

I would be surprised if I was the only person to try to submit a changed 
HTML/text page in 2.1.7, but I suppose it's possible. However I haven't 
found anything in a search, and check_perms tells me everything is OK.

Have I done something stupid, or is it a real bug and I should open a bug 
report ?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Spamassassin/Mailman - filter messages tolist-owners

2006-01-04 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006, Mark Sapiro wrote:

> Messages to the -request address will not be filtered, but spam to this
> address is normally just returned to the sender with an error message,
> not forwarded to an owner/moderator.

Except spam often has a forged sender address, so sending an error to this 
address is usless at best, at worst part of a DDOS attack on the poor guy 
who's address is forged.

I would be interested in this as a way of preventing mailman from replying 
to anything that might be spam, so the ability to filter the -request 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Large mailing lists

2005-12-22 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005, Ross Vandegrift wrote:

> > At 10:46 PM -0500 2005-12-21, Ross Vandegrift wrote:

> I'm working on the web developer to implement some better checks.  It'd
> be awesome if when we got a subscription request from a client, some code
> made sure they didn't type [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I'm somewhat hopeful of

If he is using perl, the CPAN module Mail::CheckUser does a great job.

> Unfortunately, I just work for the hosting company and don't really
> have a lot of pull with celebrity TV personalities or their web
> programmers...

Presumably you have access to the power switch. :-) (But then I own the 
hosting company and can do that).

Good luck !

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Permissions problem accessing commands via php

2005-12-09 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005, John Dennis wrote:

> 2) The php script invokes a wrapper just like the CGI does. This is
> preferred for a variety of security reasons. It would not be hard to
> create a new wrapper from the existing wrapper src code.

I'm giving serious thought to writing a mailman 'server', sort of like 
an SQL server process. It would let a cgi authenticate, then issue commands.
Today it could just call the CLI programs, someday -- it could be the actual 
way MailMan does its work, with the other programs calling it.


Drifting off topic . . . I've done mostly thinking about this because I 
don't know a lick of python, but it seems to me MailMan and the developers 
might benefit from breaking it up into more of a frontend/backend system. A 
'server' process that accepts messages, sends them from the queue, manages 
users, etc. Then the web stuff would be one front end to this. There could 
then be other front ends -- integrating with packages like PostNuke, 
shopping carts, etc.

The Unix way is small programs that do one job well. :-)

Am I the only one who thinks this is a good idea ? I'm willing to help how I 
can, and have zero interest in starting a fork. :-)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] SPAM Control

2005-11-04 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I'm an AMD-64 Gentoo Linux, Postfix, Mailman server - does anyone have any
> suggestions for a system wide anti-spam tool that integrates well?

If you aren't already, DNSbl's to block connects from dynamic IPs, known 
infected networks, spammers, etc. We're using combined.njabl.org, 
sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org, and list.dsbl.org

Forgive me if this is obvious, but make sure you have anti-virus running to. 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatically unsubscribe someone

2005-11-04 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Thu, 3 Nov 2005, Nelly Yusupova wrote:

> How can I automatically unsubscribe someone from an announce list, using a 
> php script?

If you are the site admin and have access to the command line tools, you can 
call the remove_members program in mailman/bin .  It has an option to not 
send a notification.

It needs to be run as the mailman user however, so you would need to use 
sudo and a wrapper for security. (This is what I was talking about 
yesterday). 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribing someone from a CGI script

2005-11-03 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Thu, 3 Nov 2005, Brad Knowles wrote:

>   If you'd like to see this get fixed, please file an RFE on the Mailman
> RFE page at SourceForge.  Better still, come up with a patch (or have someone
> else come up with a patch) and upload that to the Mailman patch page at
> SourceForge, which would be much more likely to be incorporated into the code
> base in the near future.

Please don't think I was complaining. It's just if you're going to call it 
an API, I felt the person should know the limitations. Myself I've gotten 
around it very well with a Perl wrapper and sudo.

Unfortunately I know perl, PHP, bash, some C and C++, could probably 
remember some FORTRAN, Pascal, and BASIC in a pinch, but no python.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribing someone from a CGI script

2005-11-03 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Thu, 3 Nov 2005, Brad Knowles wrote:

>   The command-line tools are the API.  If you can't use them 
> because your web server is trying to run them under the wrong group 
> id, I don't know that there's anything else we can do for you.

As a site admin I see a slight problem with the command line tools, 
in that they don't seem to accept a list password. I have to make some sort 
of wrapper for them so that a list owner can only access their own list.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Archiving

2005-10-21 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Mark Sapiro wrote:

> >lists or not.  I don't seem to see any place that allows trimming the 
> >archives if they start taking up too much space or just get too many in 
> >general if I want to do it on weekly basis.  Is that option available 
> >some place? 
> 
> There is no option within Mailman to prune old messages from the
> archives.

If the archive file is just an mbox file, you should be able to use any mail 
program that uses mbox format to remove messages -- mail, elm, pine, etc.

Then regenerate the web archive.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing the from header

2005-09-28 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Brad Knowles wrote:

> At 9:13 AM -0400 2005-09-28, Jeremy Leonard wrote:
> 
> >  Joe the CEO wants a message to go to all the members of our
> >  organization. His secretary creates the message and sends it to the
> >  list. She is also the moderator of the list. In Majordomo she would
> >  reply to the moderate email with the moderator password in the header
> >  and change the From: header to the Joe CEO of company.
> >
> >  Is there a way to do a similar thing with Mailman?

>   Nope.  At least, not without making source code modifications to 
> Mailman.

Wouldn't the obvious answer be to configure her mail program to send mail as 
the CEO in the first place ? This would work for not only MailMan, but any 
mailing list program, and in fact mail to individuals as well. :-)


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Hotmail Delivery Problems

2005-09-21 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Lloyd F. Tennison wrote:

> Here is the text of the emails.  They are pushing the BondedSender like crazy 
>   
> - especially since I received an email direct from BondedSender. 
>  at the address I only used with this ticket to hotmail. 

I would turn the problem around. Tell the hotmail users that hotmail is 
blocking their list mail, and they should contact hotmail and tell them to 
stop blocking their legit mail.

Or, if it's not a business list, tell hotmail users they need to use a 
different address and move on.  Send them all a gmail invite while you're at 
it.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Sending in Batch

2005-09-06 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, Jim Null wrote:

> My host only allows 200 emails per hours and 50 emails in five minutes to go
> out.  We have 97 members on one list that is growing.  Does Mailman offer a
> timed-batch feature that I can set to send out emails over a period of time
> that won't violate my hosts policies?

I think you may need to either see if you can pay for additional mail usage, 
or look into alternate hosting, either for your site or just your mailing 
list. the FAQ entry referenced says this would need to be done at the MTA 
level, meaning your hosting provider.

Feel free to contact me off-list if you think you need outside hosting for 
the list. We haven't turned list hosting into a 'product' yet, but have done 
it on request.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Making list inactive

2005-05-09 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Sun, 8 May 2005, John Poltorak wrote:

> I would like to have a list of members who subscribed to a list and 
> possibly want to reactivate it at some point in the future.

Backup the mailman/lists/listname directory, delete the list, restore the 
directory if you want to reactivate it.

You can also use the list_members command line program to dump the member 
list to a text file, which could be imported whenever you wanted to 
reactivate it.  

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[Mailman-Users] Edit public HTML/text files sets incorrect permissions

2005-04-26 Thread Christopher X. Candreva


I've just opened Bug 1190404 on this issue. System is Solaris 8, gcc 3.4.0, 
python 2.4, Apache 1.3.33

On mailman 2.1.6rc1 and rc2, when I use the "Edit the HTML pages and text 
files" option, the directories and files created are mode 600 , owned by 
nobody.mailman . After this, subscriptions fail with a permissions error. 
Since the listname/en directory is unreadable, there is a permissions error 
for the e-mail script that tries to send a confirmation message back to the 
user.



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