[Mailman-Users] OutgoingRunner Failing
Hi all, I have the OutgoingRunner process failing quite regularly, and this has resulted in a build up of mail in the qfiles/out directory. How do I find out what is going on in this process for it to be failing like this? Mailman version: 2.1.5 Platform: Linux copperhead.qut.edu.au 2.4.9-e.27smp #1 SMP Tue Aug 5 15:49:54 EDT 2003 i686 unknown (Redhat Enterprise) See logs: Sep 13 17:18:04 2004 (12790) OutgoingRunner qrunner started. (pid: 30230, sig: None, sts: 1, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Sep 13 17:20:11 2004 (11267) OutgoingRunner qrunner started. (pid: 12790, sig: None, sts: 1, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Sep 13 17:20:15 2004 (14127) OutgoingRunner qrunner started. (pid: 11267, sig: None, sts: 1, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Sep 13 17:20:22 2004 (11356) OutgoingRunner qrunner started. (pid: 14127, sig: None, sts: 1, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Sep 13 17:23:51 2004 (16171) OutgoingRunner qrunner started. (pid: 11356, sig: None, sts: 1, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Sep 13 17:23:56 2004 (12702) OutgoingRunner qrunner started. (pid: 16171, sig: None, sts: 1, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Sep 13 17:24:09 2004 (16339) OutgoingRunner qrunner started. (pid: 12702, sig: None, sts: 1, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Sep 13 17:24:13 2004 (2321) Qrunner OutgoingRunner reached maximum restart limit of 10, not restarting. (pid: 16339, sig: None, sts: 1, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Sep 13 18:29:21 2004 (20319) OutgoingRunner qrunner started. (pid: 20319, sig: None, sts: 1, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Sep 13 18:59:32 2004 (3045) OutgoingRunner qrunner started. (pid: 3045, sig: None, sts: 1, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Sep 13 19:14:34 2004 (9761) OutgoingRunner qrunner started. (pid: 9761, sig: None, sts: 1, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Sep 13 19:33:24 2004 (18412) OutgoingRunner qrunner started. (pid: 18412, sig: None, sts: 1, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Sep 13 19:48:36 2004 (7608) Qrunner OutgoingRunner reached maximum restart limit of 10, not restarting. Thanks, David Richards Senior Network Programmer Information Technology Services Queensland University of Technology -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Rejecting Posts from some members
Hi, We have a need to restrict the senders of a list to a very small number of people. These people may or may not be members of the list. All other posts we wish to reject, how can this be acheived? At the moment, the following are set: default_member_moderation = no (no members set to moderation) member_moderation_action = reject accept_these_nonmembers = ['[EMAIL PROTECTED]','[EMAIL PROTECTED]'] generic_nonmember_action = reject [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a member of the list. Thanks in advance, David Richards Senior Network Programmer Information Technology Services Queensland University of Technology -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Moderating from the command line
Hi all, I need to bounce messages automatically to certain lists - at the moment they sut waiting for moderation. These lists have a select number of senders, the rest I just need to bounce. Can I write a script to bounce these using the command line or something? Any ideas, anyone?? Thanks, David Richards Senior Network Programmer Information Technology Services Queensland University of Technology -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Bouncing immediately unauthorised senders
Hi, I have a number of lists that have a limited set of addresses that can send to it. Is there a way to bounce any other senders immediately, instead of queueing in the administrative requests? Current settings: moderated = NO member_posting_only = NO posters = ['[EMAIL PROTECTED]', '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' ] mailman v2.0.13 Any ideas? Thanks, David Richards -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] LDAP -> mailman
Hi, Does anyone out there have a script that takes definitions for a mailing list from LDAP to mailman?? Our preferred method would be to have all definitions in LDAP, and mailman to directly access them there, but from what I have read that is not currently available. So, if someone has a script that could update mailman based on LDAP definitions, it would be really cool if I could get my hads on it, even if I have to mod a little bit. The reason? Because all our corporate data is in Oracle databases and we have it translated to LDAP for other purposes... thanks, Dave. Dave Richards Senior Network Programmer Information Technology Services Queensland University of Technology -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple Servers for a List?
This is also now possible with RedHat Advanced Server - using shared storage??? So will it run in a load balanced manner there?? Presumably if it runs on a Tru64 cluster (which we have many of), it will run on a number of servers sharing file systems via NFS?? Thoughts?? Dave. > > > > > Using the LDAP master/slave paradigm. Even better would be to > use the > Novell e-Directory method and have a 'peer' network. > So any updates > against any system in the peer-ring, will update > (and make sure it > happens - receive confirmation) every other > member in the peer group. > > > Sounds good - someone with a lot more time than me going to > pick it up?? > > > Since we are venturing into the realm of proprietariness > > Even better would be to just install/run Mailman on a Tru64 UNIX > cluster with Mailman installed on shared Cluster Filesystem, set > up for load balancing and/or failover among cluster nodes as > desired. > Linux clusters may get there someday but it is going to take a > while longer. > > Dave Richards Project Manager (Messaging) Information Technology Services Queensland University of Technology -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple Servers for a List?
> Are there any mailman developers around here? - a much better > solution would be to turn on a "backup server" option in the > config file, specifying the e-mail address of the list server on > the backup server. What should then happen if this is on, is > whenever a list is changed either with mail commands or the web > interface, it should send a mail to the backup server to make > these same changes. This sounds very easy to implement but would > be very useful! Using the LDAP master/slave paradigm. Even better would be to use the Novell e-Directory method and have a 'peer' network. So any updates against any system in the peer-ring, will update (and make sure it happens - receive confirmation) every other member in the peer group. Sounds good - someone with a lot more time than me going to pick it up?? D. Dave Richards Project Manager (Messaging) Information Technology Services Queensland University of Technology -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple Servers for a List?
Not so much of performance that will be a problem, but more of a availability issue. Yes, would be fun to try... How about Ian's original idea, about keeping certain directories in sync?? Which directories would that have to be, and can a straight 'cp -R' acheive the syncing?? Dave. > I would worry about locking on the databases. Mailman handles > this via a lock file in a common directory, so it should work > even in active-active, but you would still only have one mailman > process able to run on a list at one time. In other words, I > don't think you would get much better performance out of the dual > system since only one at time would have access to the list > databases. > It would be fun to try it out! > > On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 00:17, David Richards wrote: > > How about ACTIVE-ACTIVE sharing the same installation via an > NFS mount (or > possibly shared storage in a cluster)? > > > > D. > > > > Dave Richards Project Manager (Messaging) Information Technology Services Queensland University of Technology -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple Servers for a List?
How about ACTIVE-ACTIVE sharing the same installation via an NFS mount (or possibly shared storage in a cluster)? D. > There are several ways to set this up. Here are two examples > that I've done: > > - Front end the servers with an LVS cluster and run the servers > in your DMZ. The LVS cluster acts as a firewall and connects a > user to an active internal server (one of many in its list) based > on either an ip address or a port. If one of the internal > servers stops responding then the LVS cluster will only direct > new requests to the servers that are still responding. > > - Run redundant external servers. One server is the primary and > runs all the requests. This server is maxed out with all the > hardware needed to handle peak loads and growth for a few years. > The other server is the secondary and is setup to handle the > current normal load. You run a heartbeat program on the servers > and write a script to bring up the secondary when the heartbeat > is lost from the Primary. In this case the Secondary runs > multiple IP Addresses - running it's own set, plus it takes over > the Primaries IP Addresses on failure of the heartbeat. > You can write your own heartbeat program which is as simple as a > ping, or you can use one of the stock Linux services that > automatically does this sort of thing for you (sorry, I can't > remember the name of any at this time, but Google is your friend > - a good starting point is the LVS project). > > On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 18:56, David Richards wrote: > > > I have a domain with 2 master mx servers and I want to run > > > mailman on > both so if 1 is down, the mailing lists still > work. > > I have not setup > mailman yet, but have subscribed to > quite a > > few lists using it. > > > > > Does anyone have a similar setup? > > > > > > Most folks do this via NFS. They setup a primary mailserver > then > > a secondary that only kicks in if the heartbeat of the > primary is > > interrupted. The Mailman setup is stored in a home > directory that > > is mounted via NFS to both servers. > > > > > > Are there any guides on setting up mailman in this fashion?? > We are > looking at doing the same here for greater availability. > > > > Is it possible to set up so that both mailman installations can > run at the > same time?? Active-Active?? Otherwise, what is the > best way to do the > 'heart beat'? > > > > Dave. > > > > Dave Richards > > Project Manager (Messaging) > > Information Technology Services > > Queensland University of Technology > > > > -- > > Mailman-Users mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ > > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Dave Richards Project Manager (Messaging) Information Technology Services Queensland University of Technology -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple Servers for a List?
> I have a domain with 2 master mx servers and I want to run > mailman on > both so if 1 is down, the mailing lists still work. > I have not setup > mailman yet, but have subscribed to quite a > few lists using it. > > > Does anyone have a similar setup? > > Most folks do this via NFS. They setup a primary mailserver then > a secondary that only kicks in if the heartbeat of the primary is > interrupted. The Mailman setup is stored in a home directory that > is mounted via NFS to both servers. Are there any guides on setting up mailman in this fashion?? We are looking at doing the same here for greater availability. Is it possible to set up so that both mailman installations can run at the same time?? Active-Active?? Otherwise, what is the best way to do the 'heart beat'? Dave. Dave Richards Project Manager (Messaging) Information Technology Services Queensland University of Technology -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Fwd: shared installation / NFS / Shared storage
Expers required ! I still have no response on this message below, does anyone have experience in this area?? Thanks, D. - Message Forwarded on 18/11/02 - From: "David Richards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: shared installation / NFS / Shared storage Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:21:58 +1000 Hi, I have been trying to find information in the FAQ and archives about whether Mailman can run on two independant systems over NFS or concurrently on two cluster nodes using shared storage. can anyone help me out and tell me if mailman can handle this and if it is same to do so? Thanks, Dave. Dave Richards Project Manager (Messaging) Information Technology Services Queensland University of Technology - End Forwarded Message - -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] shared installation / NFS / Shared storage
Hi, I have been trying to find information in the FAQ and archives about whether Mailman can run on two independant systems over NFS or concurrently on two cluster nodes using shared storage. can anyone help me out and tell me if mailman can handle this and if it is same to do so? Thanks, Dave. Dave Richards Project Manager (Messaging) Information Technology Services Queensland University of Technology -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
