[Mailman-Users] Unhide all

2008-10-07 Thread Edward Salm, PhD
All of my members have the hide bit set, so doing a who returns no
members. As private_roster is list admin only, this obviously was
unnecessary.

So, two questions:
1 - How can I unhide everyone?
2 - What do I change to make new members not hidden?


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[Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe stats

2008-10-07 Thread Edward Salm, PhD
Is there a way to obtain subscribe/unsubscribe statistics, i.e. How many
have occurred within a given period?

I do not need or want notification of every subscribe and unsubscribe, but
it would be nice to know some stats.

admin_notify_mchanges is off


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Unhide all

2008-10-07 Thread Edward Salm, PhD
Thank you. That worked perfectly!


On 10/7/08 9:05 AM, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Edward Salm, PhD wrote:
 
 So, two questions:
 1 - How can I unhide everyone?
 
 
 Since you don't have command line access you need to do this through
 the web. Use the script at
 http://www.msapiro.net/scripts/mailman-subscribers.py.
 
 This script runs on your workstation and require that Python
 http://www.python.org/ be installed there.
 
 
 2 - What do I change to make new members not hidden?
 
 
 On the General Options page uncheck Conceal the member's address in
 new_member_options.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML table code broken via Mailman

2008-10-06 Thread Edward Salm, PhD
=3d is the escape code for a =. That is direct HTML as translated.
Regular HTML was used, so that part you were incorrect.

However...
You were right on the money about the footer! Wow, that did it. Thank you.

What do you mean full personalization? I don't know what you are referring
to?


On 10/4/08 11:41 PM, Lloyd Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Two problems:
 
 1.   You have image(s) sent in the email.  They ideally are better sourced to
 a server. (It also make the email smaller and transmits faster.)
 2.   You are adding a footer to a mime message.  That will quite often create
 havoc with the message.  Make the footer part of the standard HTML coding,
 and you should be fine.  See
 http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030707
 
 Also, whatever you are using to create the HTML code is creating errors.
 
 div align=3Dcenterfont face=3DVerdana size=3D1lt;lt;please
 forwardgt;gt;/font
 
 Get something that makes the code directly, and does not add all the 3D and
 change your  and  codes, as a start.
 
 I aways recommend to use full personalization, too, in Mailman.  Without it
 the bounce processing does not work as well.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe after just one hard bounce

2008-10-06 Thread Edward Salm, PhD
I am using the cPanel version of Mailman, as someone pointed out earlier.
This is at my webhost, and I do not have such access to those logs.

What cPanel does give me is a graphical user interface. It shows that bogus
user that I subscribed manually as having the status of nomail (Reason
[b]) which I assume to mean bounce. It would have to be a hard bounce, as
it was a non-existent email address.

A screen shot of that interface as mentioned, is here:

http://www.lambdaent.com/pub/mailman/membership.jpg



On 10/4/08 11:49 PM, Lloyd Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What do the bounce logs say about that user? Did the bounce register?  Not
 all hard or soft bounces can be determined.  I actually scan my mail logs
 for hard bounces and delete them even faster than Mailman would.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Edward Salm, PhD [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: mailman-users@python.org mailman-users@python.org
 Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 15:19:03 -0700
 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe after just one hard bounce
 
 bounce_score_threshold = 1.0
 bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings = 0
 
 It's been 24 hours and the bogus user is still there.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML table code broken via Mailman

2008-10-06 Thread Edward Salm, PhD
The email programs that sent the mail both Apple Mail and Thunderbird, so it
appears that Microsoft is not the only culprit. I would have assumed
(perhaps incorrectly) that Thunderbird uses standards.

I have just contacted my webhost, hostforweb.com, regarding the
Personalization option, as well as cron/disbaled.

We're getting closer!


On 10/5/08 3:21 AM, Lloyd Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Outlook and Outlook Express adds the translating, but most other email
 clients do not.  
 
 As to Personalization:
 
 Look at Non-Digest Options, the second option should be:
 
 Should Mailman personalize each non-digest delivery? This is often useful for
 announce-only lists, but read the details  section for a discussion of
 important performance issues.
 (Details for personalize)
 
 No
 Yes
 Full Personalization
 
 Full Personalization is preferred if you want to track, as that uses full
 VERP.
 
 Note: Some hosts do not have that option enabled.  Many will enable it if you
 ask.  It is a simple configuration change that takes seconds to do.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML table code broken via Mailman

2008-10-06 Thread Edward Salm, PhD
Thanks to everyone. All problems solved.

That is, after I sent the message and found out my host had a 500/hour
limit. *(@*(#[EMAIL PROTECTED] They raised it temporarily, and it was just 
sent.

Whew.

This was my first time working with mailman. It was a little quirky, but
everything worked out.

Again, thanks for your patience and diligence.


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[Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe after just one hard bounce

2008-10-04 Thread Edward Salm, PhD
I am creating an annual, announce-only list with over 1300 members. This is
for a once-a-year community event where people have asked/signed up to be
informed. Many of the email addresses were collected at the previous event
one year ago (or more), and I expect many to be no longer effective.

I have set the bounce_score_threshold to 1.0. However, since this list will
only be used once a year, those bounces would not be unsubscribed for 3
years!

How can I have mailman unsubscribe, not just nomail, after just one hard
bounce?

(Yes, I have searched the archives.)

Thank you!


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[Mailman-Users] HTML table code broken via Mailman

2008-10-04 Thread Edward Salm, PhD
I have an email blast that I contains tables and other HTML code. I sent the
same message directly to my email account, and also through mailman. When
sent directly, it is just fine; when sent via Mailman it is not.

Mailman is changing something which is breaking the code. I cannot figure
out what mailman has done.

I need help ASAP. This email distribution must go out right away. I have
posted source code and screenshots here:

http://www.lambdaent.com/pub/mailman/


Thank you!


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe after just one hard bounce

2008-10-04 Thread Edward Salm, PhD
bounce_score_threshold = 1.0
bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings = 0

It's been 24 hours and the bogus user is still there.

 

On 10/4/08 3:04 PM, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Edward Salm, PhD wrote:
 
 Do you mean that setting bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings to 0 should do the
 trick?
 
 Well, I ran a test, using a bogus email address, and it has not. The address
 is still in the membership list, with nomail checked, reason [b].
 
 
 I am saying that if bounce_score_threshold = 1.0 and
 bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings = 0  at the time that mail is sent to
 a member and that mail bounces, the member will be immediately
 unsubscribed.
 
 Perhaps this member already had delivery disabled by bounce when you
 set bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings = 0. Even if this was the case,
 the member should be removed by cron/disabled after just
 bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings_interval days.
 
 In fact, even if bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings  0, the members will
 be removed after (bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings_interval X
 bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings) days as long as cron/disabled is
 being run daily.


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