Re: [Mailman-Users] Any scripting available for global site admin

[Gretchen R Beck]

Global remove is easy. The bin/remove_members application as a --fromall option

So something like this:

/bin/remove_members --fromall idtoremove@their.domain


Gretchen Beck

Carnegie Mellon



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Subject: [Mailman-Users] Any scripting available for global site admin

I have mailman 2.x and am specifically interested in knowing how to do the 
following two tasks:


1.   List all users with all their mailing lists

2.   Globally remove a user from all mailing lists

Thanks.

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[Mailman-Users] Subscription via email

[Gretchen R Beck]

Is it possible to subscribe members to a list via email (for the admin to send 
an email with one or more addresses to subscribe to a list -- similar to the 
mass subscription page)?


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[Mailman-Users] Anyone successfully using a proxy with recaptha v2 in mailman?

[Gretchen R Beck]

Hi Folks,


My apologies if this is the wrong list. We're moving a departmental mailman 
server which was unfirewalled (except the server's local firewall) that used 
the recaptcha v1 client and additions from Andrea Veri.


The new machine is behind a network firewall, and the "recommendation" is to 
access this via proxy (which makes sense since google makes no guarantee about 
their IP addresses. Has anyone gotten this working using a proxy and if so how?


(Also, if this is the wrong place to post, please point me to somewhere better!)


Thanks!


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Suggestion: Add a new binary flag: "Discard [or bounce] Sender Posts

[Gretchen R Beck]

Couldn't you just do individuals subscribers  as a spam filter within the 
Privacy options?

Gretchen Beck
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From: Mailman-Users  on 
behalf of Julian H. Stacey 
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 7:27 PM
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Cc: Julian H. Stacey
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Suggestion: Add a new binary flag: "Discard [or 
bounce] Sender Posts

Hi mailman-users@python.org
Suggestion: Add a new binary flag: "Discard [or bounce] Posts From Sender
http://berklix.org/~jhs/help/majordomo/#discard_sender

Reason: A mailman list member got his address book harvested by a spammer,
twice spammed a mailman list I run, I removed list member, asked
member to rejoin with an address spammer did not know was subscribed
to list.  Another list member suggested I could instead personaly
moderate all future mail from the spammer harvested address.
http://berklix.org/~jhs/help/majordomo/#harvested

PS (ignore "majordomo" in URLs, I just havent moved text yet.)

PPS Thanks to Mark S & others for replies 22 Mar on "compare lists setup"
still not got back to that - world spins too fast ;-)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] accept_these_nonmembers for umbrella lists

[Gretchen R Beck]

Thanks Mark,

USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER=No (we haven't changed it)
For the lists in question both have from_is_list=No and 
dmarc_moderation_action=1 (the system defaults)

Adding the @list1 to the non-members  on list2 works, but I have admins here 
who have one or two users (usually faculty) who want to post to the umbrellas 
but don't want to be subscribed to anything. While subscribe + no-mail works, 
most of these admins tend to go to accept_these_nonmembers first, so I'm trying 
to figure out what's preventing it from working in this instance on our site 
(we're on 2.1.18-1 with some local customization so the usual caveats there). 

--Gretchen

From: Mailman-Users  on 
behalf of Mark Sapiro 
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 4:22 PM
To: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] accept_these_nonmembers for umbrella lists

On 01/05/2017 12:58 PM, Gretchen R Beck wrote:
>
> I have an umbrella list.  My address (cmupyt...@cmu.edu) is a member of the 
> parent list (list1), and on the accept_these_nonmembers on the second list 
> (list2). It is NOT subscribed to list2
>
> When I post to list2 directly, the post is accepted and delivered. When I 
> post to list1, the post is held for moderation by list2 as a non-member 
> poster.
>
> Default.py has SENDER_HEADERS = ('from', None, 'reply-to', 'sender')  and 
> these are not changed in mm_cfg.py


The article at <https://wiki.list.org/x/4030574> may help.

The most likely explanation is that you have

USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER = Yes

in mm_cfg.py. This means that list2 is checking the Sender: header value
against the accept_these_nonmembers list and the Sender: header has the
list1-bounces address, not yours.

There are other possibilities depending on various settings of list1.
Note that cmu.edu publishes DMARC p=none, so it's possible that list1 is
munging the From: header depending on DMARC settings.

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[Mailman-Users] accept_these_nonmembers for umbrella lists

[Gretchen R Beck]

I have am trying to figure out why the following happens:


I have an umbrella list.  My address (cmupyt...@cmu.edu) is a member of the 
parent list (list1), and on the accept_these_nonmembers on the second list 
(list2). It is NOT subscribed to list2


When I post to list2 directly, the post is accepted and delivered. When I post 
to list1, the post is held for moderation by list2 as a non-member poster.


Default.py has SENDER_HEADERS = ('from', None, 'reply-to', 'sender')  and these 
are not changed in mm_cfg.py


What am I missing (or what else should I check?)


Thanks!


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Sending mails to all list administrators

[Gretchen R Beck]

Or, even easier to generate the list:
/usr/mailman/bin/list_lists | awk '{print $1 "-owner@"}'

From: Mailman-Users  on 
behalf of Hirayama, Pat 
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 12:23 PM
To: Martin Stein; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Sending mails to all list administrators

I suppose you could generate a list of people to send by doing something like:

/usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_admins --all | sed 's/.*Owners: //'|sed 
's/,/\r/g'|sed 's/ //g'|sort|uniq

And that use that to send your email.  Maybe combine it with xargs to do 
something like:

/usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_admins --all | sed 's/.*Owners: //'|sed 
's/,/\r/g'|sed 's/ //g'|sort|uniq | xargs -I {} mail -s 'subject' {} < 
message.txt

At least, I think that last might work. :)

-p


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Subject: [Mailman-Users] Sending mails to all list administrators

Hi,

I'm looking for an easy way, as site administrator, to send a message to
all list administrators. Is there any possibility to set up a
autogenerated list with all list administrators of the site or another
smooth solution?

Regards,

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[Mailman-Users] Defending against DDOS style scanning

[Gretchen R Beck]

Hi Folks,


We had a group of machines hit our mailman server hard last night -- trying all 
the advertised lists and their corresponding URLS.  After shutting down and 
restarting the webserver, the attempts stopped.


What (if anything) are folks doing to protect against such events?


Thanks!


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[Mailman-Users] Suggestions for handling archive growth

[Gretchen R Beck]

Hi Folks,


As our archives approach a terabyte in size, I was wondering if anyone had 
suggestions or tips for handling archive growth and storage. I've got some 
ideas, but am wondering what others might be doing.  Just as background, we 
have a few thousand lists, and support a mid-sized university population, with 
list creation open to faculty, staff, and students.


If there is a better place to ask this question, please point me there.


Thanks!


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[Mailman-Users] View a user's subscription options

[Gretchen R Beck]

Is there a command line script that can be used to view an individual user's 
subscription options for a specific list?

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[Mailman-Users] Expiring mailing lists

[Gretchen R Beck]

I noticed that a couple of sites lists include expiration dates for their 
mailman lists.

I'm interested in using such a feature on my site; is there a particular 
version where this is available, or is it customized site-by-site?  Any 
pointers to information on implementation? [Also, if this is the wrong list to 
ask this question, please point me to the right one]

Thanks!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Wrap Message and Munge From aren't happening

[Gretchen R Beck]

Oh, and the site default from_is_list = 0 (Accept)

--Gretchen

From: Mailman-Users [mailman-users-bounces+cmupythia=cmu@python.org] on 
behalf of Gretchen R Beck [cmupyt...@cmu.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 12:02 PM
To: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Wrap Message and Munge From aren't happening

Hi Folks,

I have a new test mailman server running 2.1.18.1.  It's got some 
customizations in it from our old 2.1.9 server.

Everything seems to work except the DMARC policy -- specifically, if I send 
mail to a list from my yahoo address, it bounces if the DMARC moderation action 
for the list is set to Accept (expected), Wrap Message, or Munge From 
(unexpected) are set.

I turned off the Outgoing queue runner and examined the captured messages, and 
frankly, the headers/message body all looks the same, not matter which option 
is set.

Any suggestions, helpful hints, or things to poke at?

Thanks much!

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[Mailman-Users] Wrap Message and Munge From aren't happening

[Gretchen R Beck]

Hi Folks,

I have a new test mailman server running 2.1.18.1.  It's got some 
customizations in it from our old 2.1.9 server.

Everything seems to work except the DMARC policy -- specifically, if I send 
mail to a list from my yahoo address, it bounces if the DMARC moderation action 
for the list is set to Accept (expected), Wrap Message, or Munge From 
(unexpected) are set.

I turned off the Outgoing queue runner and examined the captured messages, and 
frankly, the headers/message body all looks the same, not matter which option 
is set.

Any suggestions, helpful hints, or things to poke at?

Thanks much!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] No mail received

[Gretchen R Beck]

Hi Bryan,

I've encountered something similar when there is a problem with the Outgoing 
qrunner (it's behind, a disk is over quota, sendmail -- which we use for the 
MTA layer -- is throwing an error, the list has gotten tagged by the spam 
filter, etc).  How do your queues look?

Gretchen Beck
Carnegie Mellon


From: Mailman-Users [mailman-users-bounces+cmupythia=cmu@python.org] on 
behalf of Mark Sapiro [m...@msapiro.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 11:52 AM
To: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] No mail received

On 03/04/2015 08:23 AM, Bryan Blackwell wrote:
> On Mar 3, 2015, at 8:08 PM, len ward  wrote:
>>
>> I manage a list of 60 members.  If I send an email it does not get to
>> anybody, yet it is recorded in archives.  Same for most others, although I
>> know one person gets through and maybe others.  How do I fix this?
>> Regards len
>
> I found that DMARC is pervasive enough to cause this behavior.  Using "munge 
> from" fixed it for me, be aware you need a very recent version of MM to have 
> the options.


If the posts that aren't received are all From: yahoo.com and aol.com
addresses, DMARC is the likely reason. See the FAQs at
 and .

On the other hand, if this is independent of sender, see the FAQs at
 and .

Does Mailman record bounces for the undelivered mail? See Mailman's
'bounce' and 'error' logs if you have access.

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