[Mailman-Users] Sorry about duplicate information

2024-02-09 Thread H Ian Zhang via Mailman-Users
Apologies for posting duplicate information.

I just received "Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 240, Issue 5" and see that my reply 
to Tim Houseman's message was unnecessary (duplicated information). Solution? 
As a digest reader, I need to wait with a reply until the next digest has come 
in... ;)

Ian


>Today's Topics:
>
>   1. Re: Attach footer only once? (Carl Zwanzig)
>   2. Re: Attach footer only once? (Mark Sapiro)
>   3. Re: Attach footer only once? (Dmitri Maziuk)
>   4. Re: Attach footer only once? (Barry S. Finkel)
>   5. Attach footer only once? (H Ian Zhang)


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[Mailman-Users] Attach footer only once?

2024-02-09 Thread H Ian Zhang via Mailman-Users
If there is a website associated with the mailing list, you could move the 
information that is currently contained in the footer to a dedicted page on 
that website and shorten the footer to a one-line reference, such as "Mailing 
list terms and conditions: see [insert link to website]". It would not 
eliminate the multiple footers but at least keep that tail short.

Also, if users create ever long messages by keeping whole threads attached to 
their replies, it suggests that there is insufficient understanding of the 
functionality of modern email softwware, which can show related messages 
grouped into threads. This is, of course, an organisational/educationl issue, 
not a technical one. (I would suggest that in the face of apparent problems - 
in general, not just with mailing lists - it is often more effective to develop 
organisational solutions rather than relying on technical fixes).

Ian


"Tim Houseman"  wrote:
>users have noticed that the footer just continually stacks up at the bottom 
>of subsequent emails. Is there any way to avoid this scenario?


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[Mailman-Users] Re: Intermittent attacks agains Mailman instance (Rich Kulawiec)

2023-11-30 Thread H Ian Zhang via Mailman-Users
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>Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2023 10:06:10 -0500
>From: Rich Kulawiec 
>
>Over the past couple of months, I've observed a series of attacks
>against Mailman that are likely related because they use the same
>tactic every time.

Hi Rich,

attacks against mailman usually come without a referer, so I have found the 
following approach to work: 

I create a landing page for the mailing list that introduces the list, explains 
the signup process, and contains a button with a link to the list interface. 
Via the ".htaccess" file I ensure that the list interface itself can only be 
accessed if there is a referer that contains the domain of the landing page - 
any other access will causes a blank page to be served. Result: no spam.

The same approach also works with blogs and keeps search engines at bay. Humans 
can (and, if motivated, will) go beyond the landing page but machines will be 
blocked.

HTH

Ian


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