Re: [Mailman-Users] Formatting the Subject-field in other languages
Hi! On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 06:34:38AM +0900, Tokio Kikuchi wrote: >What is your problem? Will you please describe it in more detail or >show me some example? And, what is your mailman version? I have no specific problem with mailman. I just wanted to point out how futile and possibly senseless it is to have mailman handle every subject prefix which dumb "mail user agent" writers happen to invent, by giving an example how they don't even agree on one prefix for *one* language (German). Mailman itself works very fine for me, just dumb "MUA"s make me annoyed on and off. >[...] Kind regards, Hannah. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Formatting the Subject-field in other languages
Hello! On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 09:30:25PM +0900, Tokio Kikuchi wrote: >[...] >Here is your patch. We have already integrated German and Dannish dialects. Does that really make sense? They don't even manage to use *one* localized reply prefix, witness "AW:" in a German version of one silly "mail client" (Outlook), and "Betreff:" in a German version of one other silly "mail client" (IncrediMail; the incredible nightmare for mailing list admins). Kind regards, Hannah. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help
Hello! On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 01:11:34PM +0100, Mark.A.Lombardo wrote: >Hello, >Please for novices around her don't use jargon. You get what you pay for. And I think one can expect for people to educate themselves. >[...] Kind regards, Hannah - slightly annoyed by that attitude of entitlement. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help
Hello! On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 12:39:27PM +0100, Mark.A.Lombardo wrote: >It they hit reply, it is redirecting the email to the list, this should not >be the case. I have set the option to poster, so why does it post to the >list. Perhaps the original poster set "reply-to" to the list address. The setting "poster" does just not add an own reply to, but it leaves original reply-to headers alone, AFAIK. Kind regards, Hannah. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help
Hello! On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 12:40:14PM +0100, Mark.A.Lombardo wrote: >MUA = ? Mail user agent. Kind regards, Hannah. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help
Hello! On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 08:53:03AM +0100, Mark.A.Lombardo wrote: >Please can someone help me? I have set a distribution list using mailman and >my isp. I have set the replies to poster, but the whole list is receiving >the replies, and it is annoying members of the list. Please people have >discussed the confidentially issue. Two words: User education. And set the "reply-to header" setting appropriately (i.e. do *not* set reply-to to the list), if you usually want direct replies to poster. Oh I read you have already done that. Then... User education (they should use the reply to sender function, not group reply or list reply in their MUA if they want their replies to be private). If they aren't supposed at all to send to the list, deny them the right to do so (possible on the web interface). Or set the list to moderated. >Kind Regards >Mark Kind regards, Hannah. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] "bounce" message from misconfigured mail host(s) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Returned mail: User unknown]
Hello! I'm getting "bounces" like this from a misconfigured site which bounces to the header From instead of the envelope from. Perhaps that recipient should just be removed from the list? The "bounce" has envelope from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (should be empty!) header from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and stems from [193.74.71.21] (helo=xizor.is.scarlet.be) (helo matches the reverse-mapping of the IP, double reverse check matches) Its received lines seem to be echoed from the original mail (bad!). The upmost received lines from the original mail are: Received: from (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by fundy.is.scarlet.be with ESMTP id j9NJNaoW011305 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 21:23:36 +0200 Received: from bag.python.org (bag.python.org [194.109.207.14]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9NJNV5u040983 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 21:23:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: from bag.python.org (bag [127.0.0.1]) by bag.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E2B1E411D for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 21:23:14 +0200 (CEST) So something at or after smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl or fundy.is.scarlet.be is heavily misconfigured. Please fix this (CC is set to people who could be responsible): DSNs should have an empty (null) envelope sender and should be sent *only* to the envelope sender of the original message, the header (From/Reply-To) should never be evaluated for creating DSNs/bounces. Kind regards, Hannah. - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Hannah Schroeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 17:38:30 +0200 Subject: Returned mail: User unknown The original message was received at 2005-10-26 17:34:24 +0200 from postoffice.local [10.0.0.1] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to postoffice.local.: >>> RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <<< 550 5.1.1 unknown or illegal alias: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown Reporting-MTA: dns; postoffice.local Received-From-MTA: DNS; postoffice.local Arrival-Date: 2005-10-26 17:34:24 +0200 Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: DNS; postoffice.local Diagnostic-Code: SMTP;550 5.1.1 unknown or illegal alias: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last-Attempt-Date: 2005-10-26 17:34:24 +0200 From: Hannah Schroeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: mailman-users@python.org Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 21:23:00 +0200 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Disable Subscriptions/Unsubscriptions Hello! On Sun, Oct 23, 2005 at 09:11:00PM +0200, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: >Hi all! >Is there a possibility to disable the member subscription/unsubscription >through the web interface? >The list-members are added and removed with a script which is fed from a >DB so there is no point in self-subscription. I don't know whether there's a specific knob in mailman itself, but you could either just not publish the list info address at all, or deny access to it, using appropriate web server configuration (access control or rewrite rules to show explanatory text instead). > Bernd Kind regards, Hannah. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jjbl3213%40tiscali.be Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp - End forwarded message - -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] ascii error
Hello! On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 07:55:45AM -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: >Doc Schneider wrote: >>Subject: [UHS] =?iso-8859-1?q?B=D6C=3A__knees_or_feet=3F?= >>This this would be the one? >Probably not. That is a properly RFC 2047 encoded subject that says > BÍC:__knees_or_feet? No, it says BÍC: knees or feet? _ is a substitute for space in "q" encoding. See section 4.2, no. (2), in RFC 2047. It's used, because spaces are frequent in encoded headers and unencoded spaces aren't allowed in an encoded-word. >[...] Kind regards, Hannah. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] ISO-8859-1/Latin1 vs UTF-8
Hello! On Sun, Oct 23, 2005 at 11:58:37PM +0200, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: >Apparently all of the German translation of Mailman is in ISO-8859-1 (or >ISO-8859-15) - at least in the standard Debian mailman package. >Is there a special reason for not moving to UTF-8 in general? I'd say: YAGNI (Ya ain't gonna need it). If the charset is declared correctly, it isn't worse for German text. And it has less overhead then. > Bernd Kind regards, Hannah. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Disable Subscriptions/Unsubscriptions
Hello! On Sun, Oct 23, 2005 at 09:11:00PM +0200, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: >Hi all! >Is there a possibility to disable the member subscription/unsubscription >through the web interface? >The list-members are added and removed with a script which is fed from a >DB so there is no point in self-subscription. I don't know whether there's a specific knob in mailman itself, but you could either just not publish the list info address at all, or deny access to it, using appropriate web server configuration (access control or rewrite rules to show explanatory text instead). > Bernd Kind regards, Hannah. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] members not receiving their own posts
Hello!
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 05:59:25PM +0530, Shillong Dotcom wrote:
>Hi
> { } Do not send a copy of a member's own post.
> This option is NOT selected in our list. However, members donot receive
>their own posts back in thrir email/inbox!!1 why??
> Am I missing something?
> Bg
I think the setting itself should be right.
Do they receive other mail from the list?
Kind regards,
Hannah.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] reply-to header missing..
Hello! On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 01:21:31PM +0200, Dominik Werder wrote: >Hello all, >I'm using operas mail client. >Every mailing list running mail man does not add a reply-to header, so if >I answer a message my reply goes directly to the person but not to the >list :( >Is there something that can be done? Reasonable MUAs have a separate list reply function. E.g. with mutt, I can register the mailing lists I'm on (the To address where submissions to the list go), and if I ask mutt to do a list reply, it takes all known list addresses from To and CC as target for the reply. (private) reply addresses Reply-To, or From. (group) reply addresses all addresses from From/To/CC except for mine. >bye! >Dominik Kind regards, Hannah. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] adding new members with their fullnames via commandline
Hello! On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 12:00:58PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Hello Again, >Is it true that there is no way to add member to the list with his full name >from the command line? >I know that the below syntax won't work: >./add_members -r - "firstname1 lastname1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> somelistname There're a few things wrong with that command line. First, you'd probably have to quote the special characters, ", <, and >. Second, with "-r -" you specify that add_members will read the addresses of the members to add from standard input. I.e. you could try something like echo '"firstname lastname" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>' | add_members -r - listname >[...] Kind regards, Hannah. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Enabling personalization with Digest Mode?
Hello! On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 04:43:02PM -0700, John W. Baxter wrote: >[...] >>> I have a subscriber to digest mode whose ISP is mandating her email >>> address be in the To or CC header. >[...] >As I've said before, the spammers have broken email. This kind of >requirement is just another example. Especially if the user can't make exceptions with a whitelist or similar. > --John Kind regards, Hannah. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] keep back mails of users
Hello! On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 02:31:53PM +0200, Martin Held wrote: >i'm a beginner and i have a question. perhaps somebody of >you know the answer. >i created a new list for mailman. >now a want 2 kinds of users: >- the first group should be able to send the mail directly to mailman and >mailman >should dispose the mail to the list members. >- the second group of users can send mails too. but the mail needs a release >by >the administrator. >is this possible ? >how ? IIRC you can set a "moderated" flag individually for users. All users that are *not* moderated have their mails passed through immediately, the others' contributions are held back and an administrator or moderator has to pass them through. Kind regards, Hannah. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
