Re: [Mailman-Users] Using mailman with dial-up Internet access
Quoting Steve Mansfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My setup is this: Linux box running Fetchmail, Postfix, Procmail, Qpopper, Apache. This sits on a LAN and access the net through an ISDN router. My plan was to have list messages go to a POP server at my hosting provided from where I would download them with Fetchmail, which would then forward them to user 'mailman' on this server. Any problem with that? Certainly not, works like a charm. Now, obviously I'm going to lose the web-based features for users, so it's going to be an email-only system. What I'd like to know is how much of a loss that would really be. I can get a list of the features I'd be missing from the manuals etc - what I really want to know is how important people feel this is - ie, a subjective response. Am I really crippling the system this way (and would therefore be better off opening a group on Yahoo), or would I be losing only moderately useful features? All informed opinions would be gratefully received. At the end of the day it depands on various factors; a. what do you intend to use the list for? one way distribution list or interactive like this one? b. if interactive, then the question is whether it is a closed list or open to anyone who wants to join. Closed shouldn't be a problem, subscribe everyone upfront and then it's no problem. Public list needs to be advertised somewhere. c. hosting the list via dialup means that the response time between posting an email and getting the mail will obviously be longer and may cause frustrations. Good luck. -- Regards Hilton -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman + Sendmail issues
I don't want to presume the extent of your expertise, but did you run the 'newaliases' command after adding the entries? Cheers Hilton -Original Message- From: Mark Sass Brad, Thanks for the quick response, and I wish that were true. Here are the entries copied from my /etc/mail/aliases file which according to my sendmail.cf (O AliasFile=/etc/mail/aliases) should be where to put them: mailman: |/var/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman mailman-admin:|/var/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman mailman-bounces: |/var/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman mailman-confirm: |/var/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman mailman-join: |/var/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman mailman-leave:|/var/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman mailman-owner:|/var/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman mailman-request: |/var/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman mailman-subscribe:|/var/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman mailman-unsubscribe: |/var/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Question
Quoting Randy Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would like to see it work like this: 1. I download file from CRM software of emails. 2. I upload them or cut an paste to mailman 3. if the email is already in the list it does not add them again and if they chose to opt out before it would not add them again as well. 4. Also if the email is bad it would be nice if it would not add it to mailman as well. Would mailman be able to accommodate the above? Mailman has a program called sync_members that will do exactly what you require. You could get clever and automate the CRM extraction to the same file every time, conveniently placed on a share accessible to mailman. Then set-up a crontab job to sync that file with the mailman database. It will remove mailman users that don't appear on the list and add new ones accordingly. Should work to the tee. -- Regards Hilton -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Question
Quoting Ed Greenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm not sure how this would protect members who had opted out from being added again though. /edg Ed, just to get this right, someone who previously was a mailman user and now decides to leave the group? Effectively, you are controlling the source from your CRM package and not the mailman database? If so, then that sync program will add new members and delete ones that are not found on the extraction list. So as long as you use the CRM system to 'tag' members, you'll be ok. Hope this helps. -- Regards Hilton -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass Add digest members
Quoting Ed Greenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I know that I can add a file-full of digest members from the command line, but can I do so from the web GUI? I don't see how, on the Mass Subscribe page. Am I missing something? /edg Before you 'Ctrl + v' or mass-upload a file, go to the 'Digest options' page and set the 'Which delivery mode is the default for new users?' tag to 'Digest'. Then upload your new members and reset the digest tag. Should work. -- Regards Hilton -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Remove from Mailing List
Quoting Roger D Medlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As of May 8th please remove [EMAIL PROTECTED] from your mailing list. Reminds me of that song by Joan Armatrading... 'Drop the pilot'. :-) Seriously Roger, you need to visit http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users and unsubscribe yourself. -- Regards Hilton -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Get mails from external POP3 accounts
Quoting Håkon Strandenes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have a Linux server running Mailman, Postfix and Fetchmail. I'm running this at home for a small sailing club, with approximately 10 messages/day. The problem is that I have dynamic IP, and only a no-ip.com basic account. But the sailing club is so lucky that they have a domain, a web/mailserver and unlimited number of pop3 accounts. So my question is: How can I set up mailman/postfix to get mails form another, external pop3 account via fetchmail? I've already made the pop3 accounts, like [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. But how do I configure fetchmail, postfix and mailman? If I understand you correctly, you want to be able to post to the list outside of your environment (at home). You want fetchmail to collect 'outside' posts and send them to the list? If so, then create external POP3 accounts, but in the virtusertable (or similar) make sure the entries are something like this [EMAIL PROTECTED]yourlistname-request Do this for all the entries required (post, admin, bounces, confirm, join, leave, onwer, subscribe, unsubscribe etc). Then in your fetchmail script, instead of dumping mail to a local account, do this user yourlistname-request with pass password is yourlistname-request The last bit corresponds to the entry in your aliases table. So instead of dumping the mail into a local account, it passes it through the aliases table just like normal port 25 mail would do. I hope this all makes sense and if any of the more experienced guys (like BradK) know of a better or cleaner way to do this, please shout. -- Regards Hilton -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Get mails from external POP3 accounts
Quoting Håkon Strandenes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have a Linux server running Mailman, Postfix and Fetchmail. I'm running this at home for a small sailing club, with approximately 10 messages/day. The problem is that I have dynamic IP, and only a no-ip.com basic account. But the sailing club is so lucky that they have a domain, a web/mailserver and unlimited number of pop3 accounts. So my question is: How can I set up mailman/postfix to get mails form another, external pop3 account via fetchmail? I've already made the pop3 accounts, like [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. But how do I configure fetchmail, postfix and mailman? If I understand you correctly, you want to be able to post to the list outside of your environment (at home). You want fetchmail to collect 'outside' posts and send them to the list? If so, then create external POP3 accounts, but in the virtusertable (or similar) make sure the entries are something like this [EMAIL PROTECTED]yourlistname-request Do this for all the entries required (post, admin, bounces, confirm, join, leave, onwer, subscribe, unsubscribe etc). Then in your fetchmail script, instead of dumping mail to a local account, do this user yourlistname-request with pass password is yourlistname-request The last bit corresponds to the entry in your aliases table. So instead of dumping the mail into a local account, it passes it through the aliases table just like normal port 25 mail would do. I hope this all makes sense and if any of the more experienced guys (like BradK) know of a better or cleaner way to do this, please shout. -- Regards Hilton -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Get mails from external POP3 accounts
Quoting Håkon Strandenes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have a Linux server running Mailman, Postfix and Fetchmail. I'm running this at home for a small sailing club, with approximately 10 messages/day. The problem is that I have dynamic IP, and only a no-ip.com basic account. But the sailing club is so lucky that they have a domain, a web/mailserver and unlimited number of pop3 accounts. So my question is: How can I set up mailman/postfix to get mails form another, external pop3 account via fetchmail? I've already made the pop3 accounts, like [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. But how do I configure fetchmail, postfix and mailman? If I understand you correctly, you want to be able to post to the list outside of your environment (at home). You want fetchmail to collect 'outside' posts and send them to the list? If so, then create external POP3 accounts, but in the virtusertable (or similar) make sure the entries are something like this [EMAIL PROTECTED]yourlistname-request Do this for all the entries required (post, admin, bounces, confirm, join, leave, onwer, subscribe, unsubscribe etc). Then in your fetchmail script, instead of dumping mail to a local account, do this user yourlistname-request with pass password is yourlistname-request The last bit corresponds to the entry in your aliases table. So instead of dumping the mail into a local account, it passes it through the aliases table just like normal port 25 mail would do. I hope this all makes sense and if any of the more experienced guys (like BradK) know of a better or cleaner way to do this, please shout. -- Regards Hilton -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] mail to my list - mta result: user unknown
You need to do all this in the aliases table.
--
Regards
Hilton
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On sending a eMail to my mailing-list I get the following error.
(from tail -F -n 30 /var/log/maillog)
May 5 15:44:03 smesrv sendmail[24051]: i45Di3D5024051: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
union.org... User unknown
May 5 15:44:03 smesrv sendmail[24051]: i45Di3D5024051:
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED],
size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=SMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=pop.gmx.net
[213.165.64.20]
- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- user unknown
I have set up
- mailman
- with sendmail
- on redhat
I have sticked to the manual of the distribution
1) INSTALL
2) README
3) README.SENDMAIL
I use a mailertable
smesrv.sme-union.orgmailman:smesrv.sme-union.org
... which should put all mails not known (like mylist isnt a system user)
to the Mail Delivery
Agent, defined in sendmail.mc:
#snip from /etc/mail/sendmail.mc
Mmailman, P=/etc/mail/mm-handler, F=rDFMhlqSu, U=mailman:mailman,
S=EnvFromL, R=EnvToL/HdrToL,
A=mm-handler $h $u
#end
- mailertable has been done in db
- sendmail.mc done to .fc
- /etc/mail/mm-handler is executable to all
But for some reason this does NOT WORK. --- user unknown
What am I doing wrong?
btw here my mm_cfg.py
#CODE
from Defaults import *
IMAGE_LOGOS = '/icons/'
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'smesrv.sme-union.org'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'smesrv.sme-union.org'
add_virtualhost('smesrv.sme-union.org','smesrv.sme-union.org')
##
Questions to you:
1) Do you know what I have done wrong?
2) Or can you tell me how to set up the aliases manually? (Where does
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
union.org has to point in virtuser..
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Re: [Mailman-Users] URL in List info text is suddenly quoted HTML
That's the problem, you simply edited the list information bit. This is what is on your page brFor more info, see the lt;A HREF=quot;http://www.analytics.washington.edu/statcomp/projects/ess/quot;gt; ESS sitelt;/Agt;. br This is what it should read. (in html) brFor more info, see the A HREF=http://www.analytics.washington.edu/statcomp/projects/ess/;ESS site/A. br -- Regards Hilton Quoting Martin Maechler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's probably easiest to see what I mean when you look at https://www.stat.math.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/ess-help one of the lists I manage. The link A HREF= /A is suddenly `shown' (because the etc are quoted in the html source). How can this happen? As ML administrator, I've simply edited the list information [text box] shown on the ./mailman/admin/ess-help page. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] alias problem
Sure dude. The problem is in the first line of your alias file. Should read... my-list: |/var/mailman/mail/mailman post my-list -- Regards Hilton Quoting nikos [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I create a list and it seems to work fine, exept that all mail from users going only to root user. I believe it is an alias problem. Can somebody help me please? #alias my-list: postmaster my-list-owner: mailman my-list-admin: |/var/mailman/mail/mailman admin my-list my-list-bounces: |/var/mailman/mail/mailman bounces my-list my-list-confirm: |/var/mailman/mail/mailman confirm my-list my-list-join: |/var/mailman/mail/mailman join my-list my-list-leave: |/var/mailman/mail/mailman leave my-list my-list-request: |/var/mailman/mail/mailman request my-list my-list-subscribe: |/var/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe my-list my-list-unsubscribe: |/var/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe my-list -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] Is mailman suitable ?
You're right Tim, there's an option under General posting filters where you can allow 'the whole world' to post unrestricted. Thanks Cheers Hilton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Faircloth At 04:40 PM 4/18/2004, you wrote: Quoting Thomas Carrié [EMAIL PROTECTED]: group C policy : anyone on the internet can write to group C - yes but they would have to subscribe not neccessarily. there's an option under Subscription rules/sender filters about what to do with non-member posts... allow, hold, reject, discard /tim -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] Adding users via email - No confirmation wanted.
-Original Message- From: Darryl Harvey Is there any way for a moderator (or list admin) to add users via an email that doesn't result in a confirmation email being sent to the actual user before they are a valid subscriber? Is there any option for NO approval (As long as the moderator (or admin)) is initiating this request ? We have a closed list (internal company list) that needs to be populated, we can subscribe them, but we cannot use the web interface), we need to use the email interface, but we do NOT want/need any confirmation sent to each user. - I see no answer via the list, so here goes. If you're using 2.1.4, then do this... First step should be to get your administrator to fiddle with mm_cfg.py and set 'ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE = Yes' and then 'DEFAULT_SUBSCRIBE_POLICY = 0'. Then set the 'subscribe_policy' to 'none'. Then send a message to the list with these details To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Body: subscribe requiredpassword [EMAIL PROTECTED] You'll get a whole bunch of confirmation mails, so just set a rule to delete them. I'm not sure how to turn this 'feature' off. If it's a once off, then go for it, but change back afterwards. Cheers Hilton -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Is mailman suitable ?
Quoting Thomas Carrié [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1) Group definition A group is composed of members, if an email is sent to a group, all people from the group receive it - can do 2) Subscription policy I want an administrator to be the only central person to be able to register/unregister someone in a group I have no need for subscription initiated by the user - no problem 3) Group composition As an administrator I would like to be able to register a user in a group, but I'd like also to put a group in another group - Um, not sure about this. 4) Accessibility policy Let's say I have created groups A,B and C As an admin I would like to be able to set the 3 following policies group A policy : only members of the group A are able to write to group A - yes group B policy : only members of the group A are able to write to group B - not by group, but you may have to add users from 'A' to the 'List of non- member addresses whose postings should be automatically accepted' in group 'B's list. group C policy : anyone on the internet can write to group C - yes but they would have to subscribe Hope this helps. Cheers Hilton Ralphs -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Is mailman suitable ?
Quoting Thomas Carrié [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1) Group definition A group is composed of members, if an email is sent to a group, all people from the group receive it - can do 2) Subscription policy I want an administrator to be the only central person to be able to register/unregister someone in a group I have no need for subscription initiated by the user - no problem 3) Group composition As an administrator I would like to be able to register a user in a group, but I'd like also to put a group in another group - Um, not sure about this. 4) Accessibility policy Let's say I have created groups A,B and C As an admin I would like to be able to set the 3 following policies group A policy : only members of the group A are able to write to group A - yes group B policy : only members of the group A are able to write to group B - not by group, but you may have to add users from 'A' to the 'List of non- member addresses whose postings should be automatically accepted' in group 'B's list. group C policy : anyone on the internet can write to group C - yes but they would have to subscribe Hope this helps. Cheers Hilton Ralphs -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] 550: user unknown
I see you're running Postfix, but maybe it has an entry like Sendmail's sendmail.cf file where you reference the aliases table. Maybe the entry is not there? -- Regards Hilton Quoting esteve serra clavera [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hi again, for those who have asked more details on my user unknown error and for the ones can help me now, here are some more details as on mailman setup, i added to main.cf Apr 11 12:04:06 xx postfix/smtpd[4867]: connect from yy[192.168.1.2] Apr 11 12:04:06 xx postfix/smtpd[4867]: 58673C676A: client=yy[192.168.1.2] Apr 11 12:04:06 xx postfix/smtpd[4867]: reject: RCPT from yy[192.168.1.2]: 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: User unknown; from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] to=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 11 12:04:11 xx postfix/smtpd[4867]: disconnect from yy[192.168.1.2] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
