[Mailman-Users] List name stripped from subject header - how to prevent/workaround this?

2007-01-26 Thread Jacob Sam-La Rose 
(just realised my last message didn't have a subject...  Doh!)

Hi there,

I've recently configured a mailman mailing list.  Among other things,  
I've been thrown by the fact that any time I mention the name of the  
list in the "subject:" of an email, it gets stripped.  The public  
name for the list is FYI, the prefix for the subject line is FYI -  
and if I write FYI anywhere in the subject line, it's automatically  
removed.  I don't often mention the name of the list, but it'd be  
good to know what to do if I need to.

Thanks,

Jacob.//




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2007-01-26 Thread Jacob Sam-La Rose 
Hi there,

I've recently configured a mailman mailing list.  Among other things,  
I've been thrown by the fact that any time I mention the name of the  
list in the "subject:" of an email, it gets stripped.  The public  
name for the list is FYI, the prefix for the subject line is FYI -  
and if I write FYI anywhere in the subject line, it's automatically  
removed.  I don't often mention the name of the list, but it'd be  
good to know what to do if I need to.

Thanks,

Jacob.//




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[Mailman-Users] List security: approved line got mailed out to list users

2007-01-26 Thread Jacob Sam-La Rose 
Hi.

I've got my list configured as an announcement-only list, and the  
first few mailings I've sent have gone through exactly as planned.  I  
use "Approved: password" as the first line to approve mailings.  I  
inadvertently sent email to the list from one of my other email  
addresses, and when the message went out, the Approved: line was  
there, intact.  There was a space above it, if that means anything  
(the sent email doesn't have that space...)

I changed the password - easily done, no security problems there.   
But I'd still like to know what could have allowed this to happen.   
Since then, I've set up a test list and tried to replicate the  
behaviour - thus far no success.  Anyone have any suggestions as to  
what might have happened?

Thanks,

Jacob Sam-La Rose
Executive Editor
"FYI" / Metaroar.com




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Re: [Mailman-Users] List security: approved line got mailed out to listusers

2007-01-26 Thread Jacob Sam-La Rose 
Thanks for the response, Mark. I'm only just getting used to the  
concept of community via mailing list (I'm more used to user forums...!)

On 26 Jan 2007, at 19:00, Mark Sapiro wrote:

> Jacob Sam-La Rose wrote:
>>
>> I've got my list configured as an announcement-only list, and the
>> first few mailings I've sent have gone through exactly as planned.  I
>> use "Approved: password" as the first line to approve mailings.  I
>> inadvertently sent email to the list from one of my other email
>> addresses, and when the message went out, the Approved: line was
>> there, intact.  There was a space above it, if that means anything
>> (the sent email doesn't have that space...)
>
>
> What Mailman version is this?
>

2.1.9.cp2

> Do you have a copy of the message from the list - complete with all
> headers? If nothing else, if the list is archived, this copy will be
> in archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox.

Headers:

Subject:FYI (important): any email to  / Jacob this morning...
Date:   26 January 2007 11:00:05 GMT
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Antivirus

Do you need to see the body of the email?

>
> How did the message get sent to the list? Was it held and manually
> approved (a clue that something was wrong with Approved:).

Sent as email straight to the list - didn't have to be manually  
approved - it went straight through.

>
> Was the Approved: line that went to the list in the first text/plain
> part of the message or was it in a subsequent part, e.g. an HTML
> alternative part.

It was in the first text/plain part - though in the sent version I've  
got of the mail, the Approved: line is the very first line.  Once it  
went through the list, there was a line space at the top of the  
email, before the Approved: line...

>
> Approved: body lines must be the first non-blank line in the first
> text/pl