[Mailman-Users] Re: Messages Not Appearing

2004-04-24 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 00:28:22 -0600, Space Coyote scribbled down:
 I am having trouble having anything show up on my lists.  I am receiving
 the mails as forwarded by sendmail, all of the aliases are working.  the
 mail log has none of the typical gid problems.  Everything looks like mail
 is being sent out.

Without any logs - nobody knows what's going on. Mailman logs quite
comprehensively, so see if you can see the mail being sent out and
received by the MTA having been processed by Mailman, see if the mail is
actually getting accepted by Mailman.

It'd help a great deal if you pinpoint exactly where the mail is getting
held up.

The following FAQ entries might help you: 
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=all#1.7
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=all#3.14

 Looking at the system log file gate_news is being restarted by cron every
 five minutes.  I cannot find any cron processes running though when I
 perform a ps -aux | grep cron except the deamon.  None of my mailman logs
 are being populated except the subscribe list.

I'm unsure as to what you mean by 'daemon', are Mailman's qrunner
processes running?

 My mm_cfg.py file appears to be empty but my Defaults.py contains what I
 need it to.  What am I missing?

You should not use Defaults.py to configure Mailman, instead copy and
paste what you need out of Defaults.py into your mm_cfg.py. The reason for
this is that if you upgrade your version of Mailman, your site
configuration will be completely and irreversibly overwritten. 

HTH

- -- 
- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 w: http://www.silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key
 15:30:01 up 4 days,  5:43, 12 users,  load average: 1.00, 0.77, 0.67

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux)

iD8DBQFAioLfx2omo/Dc/KgRAjTtAKCWZ87nm3sf9lg1wytRnA4e5KzBgACgzIG7
9760JrggS1CuH5zOlXALigU=
=I9IC
-END PGP SIGNATURE-



--
Mailman-Users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/


[Mailman-Users] Re: Announce Only

2004-04-15 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 10:28:07 +0100, Paul Reilly scribbled down:
 How did you close the list to posts?
 This seems may more complicated than it needs to be.
 I have to turn everyones moderation bit on, under membership
 management. Surely there should be a simple open closed
 radio check button under Sender Filters.
 
 Also how do you turn off the Create new List via webpage ?
 You can't as far as I can see. Mailman is suffering from feature
 bloat, and is no longer suitable to many deployments.

There is also an extremely detailed account of how to do this under
Mailman on the FAQ. Which had the OP read, he would have needed to
post frequently answered questions to this mailing list.

Mailman is not suffering from 'feature bloat', if you don't like it -
*use* *something* *else*. It's called choice. Go away and exercise it.
The tone of your message is rude and unnecessary in the extreme. Did you
even think about expressing your 'opinions' on the MLM3 mailing list?
Obviously not!

I run an announcements only list and find Mailman to be a breath of fresh
air to use. If you don't, find another MLM to use, or code your own, and
stop flaming Mailman.

Oh, and typically it's best to quote the relevant bits of text from the
post you are replying to with a character such as , |, etc. it makes it
easier for everyone else to read.

  -j

- -- 
- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 w: http://www.silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key
 22:30:01 up 1 day,  7:39, 12 users,  load average: 2.11, 2.32, 2.55

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux)

iD8DBQFAfwv1x2omo/Dc/KgRAiumAJ0UyOdZpJFkDtnk9u9em+GHPkSMLwCgxbNW
5z+cHWMHLwRb5QKhJi+VOAU=
=jzs4
-END PGP SIGNATURE-



--
Mailman-Users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/


[Mailman-Users] Re: Changing List Administrator

2004-04-14 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 09:50:24 -0400, Wendy Allotta scribbled down:

 We need to change the email address of our list administrator.  How do we do this?

You'll find the option to change the email address of the list
administrator in the web interface. Funny that.

- --
- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 w: http://www.silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key
 21:30:01 up  6:39, 11 users,  load average: 2.35, 2.29, 2.35

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux)

iD8DBQFAfay3x2omo/Dc/KgRAsDYAJ9kjfVnzr9q4qyYk09EdlZRSlIA+gCgqY0L
74EhZDrzU3vtpr3UUwP3jt8=
=RRuF
-END PGP SIGNATURE-



--
Mailman-Users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/


[Mailman-Users] Re: postfix + mailman virtual host??

2004-04-14 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 14:11:57 +0530, Yogesh Subhash Talekar scribbled down:
snip
 Apr 14 07:05:54 ihqm001a1 postfix-out/qmgr[623]: D6B292B9:
 From=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=744, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
 Apr 14 07:05:55 ihqm001a1 postfix-out/local[1670]: D6B292B9:
 to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local, delay=1, status=sent
 (|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post yogesh)
 
 Nothing happens after this. Can anyone help please?

Have a look at your Mailman logs and see if MM says it has actually
received the post. You might like to take a look at this [well
referenced to] FAQ entry: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=all#1.7

HTH

- -- 
- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 w: http://www.silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key
 21:30:01 up  6:39, 11 users,  load average: 2.35, 2.29, 2.35

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux)

iD8DBQFAfa4Wx2omo/Dc/KgRAt3hAKCqZ2CnNrq2RU+iuAafuGEUdJC84QCfUw5R
TFreHEWIWLrthDrqkroi17Q=
=3sK5
-END PGP SIGNATURE-



--
Mailman-Users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/


[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman won't send confirm emails when subscribing OS X

2004-04-08 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 17:32:16 +1000, Jason Marty scribbled down:

 In OS X ­ sorry to post twice but I left this off.
 
 Mailman won't send confirm emails when subscribing.
 It used to work and it unsubscribes as it should but it anyone trying to
 subscribe is described in the log file as pending and is never activated
 because the confirm email is not posted.
 
 Any ideas??

This is a FAQ - http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=all#3.14

-- 
-jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 w: http://www.silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key
 08:30:01 up 3 days,  9:34, 12 users,  load average: 0.21, 0.37, 0.51

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux)

iD8DBQFAdQonx2omo/Dc/KgRAgmkAKCTTGs/8WI1BuiE/ShxDiymA2erzwCeJSqQ
LF+GgbXqB2gqGu+dkDgcRdg=
=nJj7
-END PGP SIGNATURE-



--
Mailman-Users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/


[Mailman-Users] Gating mail to news - NewsRunner uncaught runner exception

2004-04-08 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hey all,

I'm running Mailman 2.1.4 on Debian Sid (unstable), I've been trying to
gate news to mail and vice versa. While posts to newsgroups get gated to
the proper mailing lists, mail to mailing lists does *not* get posted to
newsgroups.

I noticed the problem when I realised that something was eating my disk
space, it turns out that NewsRunner has been dying every two seconds -
thus filling my logs with this, repeated over, and over:

Apr 08 09:00:20 2004 (26146) Uncaught runner exception:
Apr 08 09:00:20 2004 (26146) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/NewsRunner.py, line 74, in _dispose
password=mm_cfg.NNTP_PASSWORD)
  File /usr/lib/python2.3/nntplib.py, line 116, in __init__
self.welcome = self.getresp()
  File /usr/lib/python2.3/nntplib.py, line 215, in getresp
resp = self.getline()
  File /usr/lib/python2.3/nntplib.py, line 207, in getline
if not line: raise EOFError
EOFError

I recently setup Mailman to authenticate with the news server, before
that, everything was working fine - including mail-news. Now that I've
told Mailman to authenticate, NewsRunner keeps dying repeatedly, but
gate_news works perfectly.

While I'm not proficient in Python, I assumed this meant a problem with
the NNTP_PASSWORD setting in mm_cfg.py:

DEFAULT_NNTP_HOST = 'news.silverdream.org'
NNTP_USERNAME = 'someusername'
NNTP_PASSWORD = 'anypass'

I don't see any obvious reason why NewsRunner would choke on
NNTP_PASSWORD... Since gate_news can connect to the news server fine, and
I tried telnetting and posting manually, and it worked AOK.

Any ideas?

-- 
-jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 w: http://www.silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key
 08:30:01 up 3 days,  9:34, 12 users,  load average: 0.21, 0.37, 0.51

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux)

iD8DBQFAdQwnx2omo/Dc/KgRAq9ZAJ9DulYO12kOALY7EYcCW9luErcwnQCdFi2T
IMp1OxWF//4YUoep7eCxHw4=
=C3oj
-END PGP SIGNATURE-



--
Mailman-Users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/


[Mailman-Users] Re: Gating mail to news - NewsRunner uncaught runner exception

2004-04-08 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 09:33:17 +0100, Jamie L. Penman-Smithson scribbled
down:
 I'm running Mailman 2.1.4 on Debian Sid (unstable), I've been trying to
 gate news to mail and vice versa. While posts to newsgroups get gated to
 the proper mailing lists, mail to mailing lists does *not* get posted to
 newsgroups.

It's now exhibiting this behaviour even when NNTP_USERNAME and
NNTP_PASSWORD are both set to None, or even commented out entirely.

So, it's obviously not to do with authentication.

-- 
-jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 w: http://www.silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key
 09:30:01 up 3 days, 10:34, 12 users,  load average: 0.14, 0.28, 0.34



--
Mailman-Users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/


[Mailman-Users] Re: Spoofing Issue

2004-04-05 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 08:55:41 -0400, Doug Straight scribbled down:
 We had an event on Saturday where all 8,000 members got an infected email
 from the list.  It looked just like the newsletter we sent out in most cases
 but some members wrote back telling us they had the Find the White Rabbit
 message, and were told by Norton that they had a Beagle variant M infected
 email from us.
 
 I'd love to hear your ideas on this as it is quite a concern.

The best defense against virii-laden mail is to pass your mailing list
mail through a virus scanning engine of some kind.

In my case, all mail to Mailman gets passed through amavisd-new, which I
can heartily recommend.

The forgery of headers is best handled at the MTA level, anti-spam
technology such as SPF et al are designed to combat this.

HTH

-- 
-jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 w: http://www.silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key
 04:30:01 up 1 day,  5:34,  9 users,  load average: 0.31, 0.26, 0.20



--
Mailman-Users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/


[Mailman-Users] Re: most secure final config

2004-04-05 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 20:48:10 -0400, wslepecki scribbled down:
 Quick newbie question.  I am finishing installing a mailman server and I
 have a security/config question.  What ports do I need to open through
 my firewall, which direction, and how do I set up DNS.

Mailman either uses SMTP or sendmail to send mail to your local SMTP
server, Mailman leaves it to the SMTP server to handle distributing the
mail to its recipients.

If you're handing incoming and outgoing mail on the same server, you need
to have port 25 open both inbound and outbound.

 If im hunch is right, in the firewall, I open smtp out, pop3 in, and the
 server will work.  I don't want to open smtp in because I don't want
 people to hijack my smtp server.  Then again, does mailman have smtp?

You'll need to have some way for people to post to the mailing list -
it's pretty useless otherwise.

I don't know what MTA you're using - so I can't offer any specific advice
on MTA security. The biggest problem when running a mail server is
relaying, although most reasonable MTAs are now secured against relaying
out of the box. See http://mail-abuse.org/tsi/ar-fix.html

This is rather OT for this mailing list - if you still need help, try
posting to your distributions security mailing list,
news://comp.os.linux.security, or your MTAs mailing list or newsgroup.

HTH

-- 
-jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 w: http://www.silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key
 04:30:01 up 1 day,  5:34,  9 users,  load average: 0.31, 0.26, 0.20



--
Mailman-Users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/


Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman and postfix on SuSe linux

2004-03-29 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 14:57, PiCo wrote:
 Hi
 I'm trying to configure mailman with postfix on Suse linux.
 I follwing the step for mailman configuration as I can see into doc folder 
 of my distribution.  Everything siims to be correct, but no e-mail is 
 sended from my server
 and if I try to start mailman I receive:
 starting mailmanSite is missing: mailman failed

**RTFM** - you didn't create the mailman list like it told you to.
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq05.005.htp

-- 
-jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 w: http://www.silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key
 14:30:01 up 1 day, 16:36,  3 users,  load average: 0.24, 0.29, 0.29


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part
--
Mailman-Users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Integration with ClamAV

2004-03-29 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 19:08, Chris Barnes wrote:
 Brendan Chard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm running Mailman 2.1.4 on a FreeBSD server using sendmail as my
  MTA.  I have ClamAV already installed and running using the
  clamd/clamc combo
 
  What is the best way to integrate ClamAV with Mailman so that viruses
  posted to lists will be nuked?
 
 I use MailScanner.  It processes the virus messages before MailMan gets
 a chance to distribute them.

I can recommend AMaViS-new - http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/
It also integrates with SpamAssassin (I believe MailScanner does this as
well).

HTH

[Not signed because MM-Users is now rejecting my PGP/MIME signed mail.]

-- 
-jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 w: http://www.silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key
 19:30:01 up 1 day, 21:36,  3 users,  load average: 0.02, 0.12, 0.11


--
Mailman-Users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/


Re: [Mailman-Users] re: tried everything in faqs, manual, - all looks good, but email still not sending

2004-03-29 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 19:06, Craig Elkins wrote:
 Mar 29 17:19:54 2004 (383) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp for 1 recips, completed in 1.349 
 seconds
 
 what else is there?  this has worked before then one day just stopped.  any help 
 much much appreciated!!

Take a look at your Postfix logs to see if Postfix is accepting the
messages, and what it's doing with them...

-- 
-jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 w: http://www.silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key
 20:30:01 up 1 day, 22:36,  3 users,  load average: 0.69, 0.61, 0.44


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part
--
Mailman-Users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/

Re: [Mailman-Users] Utilizing SpamAssassin w/ MailMan (repost)

2004-03-29 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
Hey Chris,

On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 19:07, Chris Barnes wrote:
 This is a repost, but judging by the lack of responses, I think it might
 be good to ask again.  Is there a way to utilize SpamAssassin running on
 the same box as Mailman?
 
 By that, I mean SA is already running, so all email coming in will be
 scored by SA for its 'spamminess'.
 
 Is there a way to get MM to place those messages with a Spam=Yes score
 on hold until the list owner can review the message on an otherwise
 unmoderated list?  I want this for ALL lists (a global setting).

There was discussion of a plugin which integrated Mailman and SA at
http://zgp.org/linux-elitists/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
but that was for Mailman 2.0 - I don't know whether such a plugin still
exits.

IMO content filtering should be taken care of before it gets to Mailman,
e.g. by MailScanner, or AMaViS - they integrate SA and virus scanning. 

Personally I block, forward, and auto-learn spam above 10 or so points,
which takes the load of Mailma, but you may not be comfortable doing
this. 

If you want Mailman to filter for SA's headers you can use the
header_filter_rules option under Privacy Options to filter for that
particular header.

You can defer, hold, reject, discard, or accept based on this regexp.
Something like this *MAY* work, although my understanding of regular
expressions is full of holes at best:

/^X-Spam-Status: Yes*/

As I said - I don't know if that'll work, so someone who is more
familiar with regexp's will hopefully put me right if need be. Also, I
use AMaViS, so your headers may differ - as usual, YMMV.

You could do it the other way round, and only accept messages with
X-Spam-Status: No, or you could put messages SA thinks are spammy on
hold and check them over yourself.

HTH

-- 
-jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 w: http://www.silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key
 20:30:01 up 1 day, 22:36,  3 users,  load average: 0.69, 0.61, 0.44


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part
--
Mailman-Users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/

Re: [Mailman-Users] re: list has stopped working - i can use the interface, enlist new members, etc. but no messages get sent out

2004-03-27 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 17:35, Craig Elkins wrote:
 i noticed this when i member asked why their post hadn't gone out to
 the list.  so i did some checking and the member's post was sent to
 the server and the server sent it to mailman but it seems to have
 stopped there.   

This is an FAQ -- take a look at
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=all#1.7

RTFM before posting next time.

-- 
-jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 w: http://www.silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key
 17:30:01 up 7 days,  3:32,  2 users,  load average: 0.35, 0.40, 0.36


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part
--
Mailman-Users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/

Re: [Mailman-Users] list administration - automatic approval

2004-03-26 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 15:21, Bulcaen Bob wrote:
 Hello,
  
 Is it possible to approve automatically new subscriptions.
 That is, without approval via the mailmaster.
  
 Many thanks for the answer, and the great software !

See the previous thread Stopping the confirmation email for ways of
doing this, and why it is a **Very Bad Idea** (and may actually be
illegal in some areas):

Original post -
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-March/035441.html

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-March/035443.html
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-March/035445.html

-- 
-jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key
 15:30:01 up 6 days,  1:32,  2 users,  load average: 0.72, 0.61, 0.54


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part
--
Mailman-Users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/

Re: [Mailman-Users] list administration - automatic approval

2004-03-26 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 16:22, Richard Barrett wrote:
 Not requiring approval and not requiring confirmation are two different 
 things.
 
 With MM 2.1.x, on the Privacy-Subscription Rules page of the admin web 
 GUI for a list, you can choose between three options described thusly:
snip

Ooops.. looks like I forgot my morning cup of coffee again :/

-- 
-jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key
 16:30:01 up 6 days,  2:32,  2 users,  load average: 0.27, 0.44, 0.53


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part
--
Mailman-Users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/

Re: [Mailman-Users] New list password

2004-03-25 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 07:04, Jason Marty wrote:
 I am running Mailman on a Mac with OS X Panther.
 When you create a list via the GUI interface it does not ask you to
 create an admin password.
 If I try to create the list via the Mailman interface I do not know
 the password and it will no accept my other list passwords.
 Is there any place I can change, override or set this password??

You were asked for a list password, or one was created for you. Either
way it was probably emailed to you.

You can use the site password to gain access to the list and change the
list password, if you've forgotten that, you can use mmsitepass to
change it, on my Debian install of Mailman it's at /var/lib/mailman/bin,
but YMMV.

HTH

-- 
-jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key
 11:30:01 up 4 days, 21:32,  2 users,  load average: 1.46, 1.03, 1.00


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part
--
Mailman-Users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/

RE: [Mailman-Users] HTML

2004-03-25 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 00:00, Sean Carnahan wrote:
 Yes I agree its not wonderful
 
 But I send out a newsletter that has to have graphics and flyers and if not
 colorful they arent as effective for promotion.
 Any ideas on how to do it even if you don't like it?

It's not just that *I* don't like it, millions of other poor innocent
people don't like it. Hear the voice of reason, do not subject the
masses to such evil.

If you want to promote your company or service, use the web, you can
link to it in your emails. Email should be a plain text medium. You also
have the advantage of knowing that your message is going to look the
same in any email client in the world.

HTML is plain dangerous, there have been numerous examples of virii
spreading using HTML and vulnerabilities in everyone's favourite MUA -
Lookout. As a duty of care to your 'customers' do not use it, they'll
thank you for it eventually.

HTML usually looks like it has been designed by stoned amateur
chimpanzees using Front Page Express with their feet

Oh, and if you think you actually like flashy-seizure-inducing HTML mail
- I wholeheartedly invite you to take an agonising look at
http://www.seizurerobots.com

This is getting way off topic, this is all I'm going to say on the
subject.

Have a nice HTML-mail-clean day,

-j

-- 
-jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key
 11:30:01 up 4 days, 21:32,  2 users,  load average: 1.46, 1.03, 1.00


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part
--
Mailman-Users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/

Re: [Mailman-Users] View list subscription

2004-03-25 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 14:07, Jeff Donovan wrote:
 greetings
 How can i view the list subscription and or dump it to a text file?
 I need to see everyone at once.

You can view the list of subscribers (and search it) using the web
interface, under Membership Management.

It doesn't yet let you export the list from the web, but if you have
shell access you can use list_members [listname].

HTH

-- 
-jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key
 12:30:02 up 4 days, 22:32,  2 users,  load average: 0.94, 0.94, 0.83


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part
--
Mailman-Users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help!!!

2004-03-25 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 09:52, Juanan wrote:
  I only speak (write) a little English, sorry. I have Fedora Core UP
 (S.O.), sendmail and mailman, but I have problem with mailman. 
  
  What are the steps to install mailman.

Read the documentation at www.list.org

-- 
-jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key
 13:30:01 up 4 days, 23:32,  2 users,  load average: 1.75, 1.25, 1.01


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part
--
Mailman-Users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/

Re: [Mailman-Users] Backup

2004-03-25 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 02:59, Jason Marty wrote:
 If I want to back up the list data on Mac OS X Panther Server does
 anyone know which files I need to copy?

Don't repeat post and RTFM -
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.006.htp

-- 
-jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key
 13:30:01 up 4 days, 23:32,  2 users,  load average: 1.75, 1.25, 1.01


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part
--
Mailman-Users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/

Re: [Mailman-Users] Installation GUI

2004-03-24 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
On Tue, 2004-03-23 at 17:03, John Crockford wrote:
 Does anyone know of a program that will install mailman on a UNIX 
 serverwithout knowing UNIX? I found one that installed MacGimp on my 
 iMac and it worked great. Any suggestions?
 
 John Crockford

If you're going to be administering a site with Mailman, you NEED to
know Unix. If you don't want to learn, go sign up for Yahoo! e-Groups,
or similar. Or find an ISP that will provide Mailman hosting. Take a
look at the FAQ - it's got a question about MM hosting.

-- 
-jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key
 14:30:01 up 4 days, 32 min,  2 users,  load average: 0.91, 0.90, 0.72


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part
--
Mailman-Users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman will not deliver mail

2004-03-24 Thread Jamie L. Penman-Smithson
On Tue, 2004-03-23 at 00:52, Michael Whitehead wrote:
 I am having an extremely hard to getting mailman to work.
snip
 I have tried installing with ports and through source but I get stuck at the
 same place. Mailmain will send mail for notifications, list subscriptions
 confirmations and welcomes but will not relay an mail posted to a lists.
 
 I am running a virtualdomain (lists.pipelogix.com) for Mailman on Qmail. I
 get no errors anywhere that I can find. The mail comes in but just does not
 go out.

Have a look at Mailman's logs, then have a look at qmail's logs. If you
don't understand them, paste them here.

-- 
-jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key
 14:30:01 up 4 days, 32 min,  2 users,  load average: 0.91, 0.90, 0.72


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part
--
Mailman-Users mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/