Re: [Mailman-Users] Question for you
On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 23:31, Healing-Oils.com wrote: I want to know if it's possible to subscribe someone without logging into the Mailman web interface. I have a form on my site that asks users if they want to join. If so, I would like to make a php script that will automatically send MailMan an email that will subscribe the user. As long as you've got your aliases are setup properly in your MTA, you should be able to send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's the same with -unsubscribe. You can also send an email to yourlist-request with subscribe/unsubscribe in the subject. -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key 15:30:01 up 1:32, 1 user, load average: 0.06, 0.05, 0.03 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] Question for you
On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 19:24, Healing-Oils.com wrote: Won't this send a confirmation email to the user though? If the customer indicates that they want to subscribe, and they provide their email address on my website, then I would like to be able to have my website automatically send off an email that will subscribe them. So is there any way to do this so that a confirmation email is not sent to the end user? See the previous thread Stop the Confirmation E-Mail for why this is a *very* Bad Idea: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-March/035429.html http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-March/035441.html A summary of the points raised: SMTP is trivial to forge, and abuse. There is nothing to stop malicious users subscribing all and sundry to your mailing list, thereby creating more spam. You'll probably (hopefully) end up being blacklisted by a few of the major DNSBL's - reducing the likelihood of any of your ML mail getting through at all. There are several anti-spam laws in the works that will *require* confirmation for mailing list subscription. It's just plain irresponsible behaviour. Read the thread for the full discussion. -j -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key 22:30:01 up 8:32, 1 user, load average: 0.51, 0.43, 0.28 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Only administrator can send messages
On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 08:22, Pedro Rosa wrote: I want to have a newsletter, so I would like to know how I can configure my Mailman list for it only accepts messeges from administrator and moderators. Where can I configure it? http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=all#3.11 You could try looking at the FAQ first, before asking a question that's been asked a million times over, but then again, that'd take effort... -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key 14:30:01 up 1:22, 1 user, load average: 0.51, 0.76, 0.75 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Email's
On Tue, 2004-03-16 at 21:28, Noel Materna wrote: Is there anyway to have HTML code transfer through mailman. I have setup outlook to use HTML and stuck an HTML ad as it were. It looks great in my email but doesn't get sent to my list users. That's by design, HTML mail is *evil* (and created by Satan, AKA MS). If you don't believe me: http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil_still.shtml http://www.usethesource.com/articles/03/04/07/14.shtml As an example: snip spam You really think we needed that spam from Y! Groups? Get a clue (tm), and do the Right Thing, don't spam your poor innocent users with evil HTML spam. -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key 16:30:01 up 12:19, 1 user, load average: 0.12, 0.06, 0.02 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Stop the Confirmation E-Mail
On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 23:12, Steven Massey wrote: Jon, Thanks for the response. I would tend to agree with you, but this client is particularly insistent on setting it up this way. Perhaps people on the list could help me by providing some fodder to argue why there should be a confirmation e-mail. I've tried saying that people could be maliciously signed up for a list they never wanted to be on, but they don't seem to think that is really an issue. Are there other reasons I can provide? Even the smallest things could be useful. [This may come out slightly stronger than I intended, but it's something I feel very strongly about - spam...] A single forged email is all that's needed to get someone subscribed to a mailing list they didn't want to be subscribed to, and it is far too easy to forge the sender with SMTP. By doing that you're simply creating *more spam*, and probably (hopefully - it'd mean they'd be doing their job) end up blacklisted by the major RBL's, not to mention have lots of irate users asking you why they are subscribed to a mailing list they didn't want. That would mean that most of the mail sent out by your client (and your server) would be promptly rejected. Not requiring confirmation also means you can end up with a mass of email addresses that aren't valid on your mailing list, creating endless bounces, and more work for your MTA (and Mailman). If you or your client doesn't think that is going to happen (IOW the mailing list won't get any spam), they need to get a clue - it won't be long before you start getting spam to those ML's. If you have any sense of responsibility you'll persuade them that this is definitely not what they want. Just my opinion... take it or leave it.. -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key 00:30:01 up 2 days, 44 min, 8 users, load average: 0.03, 0.11, 0.18 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Virus sent to lists from my domain - add password for moderated users
Hey Arthur, On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 18:53, Arthur Gibbs wrote: Using Mailman 2.1.3, we have had problems with virus-generated messages with spoofed senders getting through to a one-way list. IMHO this is not something Mailman should worry about, it's a problem for the MTA, either use SPF, DNSSEC, etc. Under Postfix you can just run two instances, one for inbound mail, one for outbound mail, the inbound instance doesn't accept mail appearing to come *from* your domain. Of course this doesn't solve other spoofed addresses, the answer to this lies in such things as SPF. You could suggest the idea of passwords for every post to the MM3-dev list, but other than that I don't think Mailman should have to worry about spoofed senders, it's not its job. Just my £0.02p -j -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key 14:30:01 up 14:44, 9 users, load average: 0.13, 0.10, 0.09 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can we get rid of these nuisance bounces for posters
On Sat, 2004-03-06 at 22:08, Jon Carnes wrote: One to two folks are bogusly attempting to feed the list traffic ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) into their own local site lists. These generate multiple bounces for every post to the list. I contacted the postmaster at both sites, and one of them replied, and the problem has been solved, but I'm still getting one bounce with every post from ops.org, from which I didn't get a reply to my request (I didn't honestly expect any replies at all). It's getting extremely annoying. Can we verp for a bit and nuke these guys (please!) I'll second that. -j -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key 15:30:01 up 15:44, 8 users, load average: 0.02, 0.12, 0.18 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help stopping Virus sent to lists from my domain
On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 17:28, Caleb Epstein wrote: On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 11:59:50AM -0500, Caleb Epstein wrote: OK, I've found out a little bit more about the exploit. The message is sent with an envelope-from (I think thats the right term) of an actual list subscriber, one who has permission to post to the list, but the From: header is one of these made-up official addresss: snip Any suggestions on how to catch this forgery? This type of forgery is usually best handled at the MTA level, I've setup Postfix to reject mail which appears to originate locally, but is being received from somewhere else, You don't say what MTA you're using, but I'm sure there is similar functionality available. Secondly, all mail to my lists is first sent to a content filter (in my case, amavis-new) for analysis, which uses SA/clamd to catch most spam and virii, which means that such mail is stopped before it ever reaches Mailman. HTH -j -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key 17:30:01 up 8 days, 2:50, 11 users, load average: 1.11, 0.90, 0.70 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Remove URL from mailman messages
On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 14:30, Artman.John wrote: I'm trying to figure out how to remove the URL at the end of all messages that come through the listthe mailman server will not be accessible via http to users outside our network, however it will mail to them. Any help is appreciated. Take a look at the msg_footer option. -j -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key 15:30:01 up 8 days, 50 min, 11 users, load average: 0.11, 0.17, 0.22 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] How i can change current directory in side the externalmethod
On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 14:32, Karunya Institute Team wrote: How i can change current directory in side the externalmethod I don't understand what you mean, please elaborate. Repeat posting is not going to help your cause. -j -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key 17:30:01 up 6 days, 2:50, 10 users, load average: 0.33, 0.32, 0.31 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Maiman Footer
On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 09:14, sdfsd iuyiuy wrote: Is it possible to make footers that will link to a web page? Take look at msg_footer setting under Non-Digest options. -j -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key 18:30:01 up 6 days, 3:50, 10 users, load average: 0.05, 0.19, 0.30 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] virtualhost and list creator password?
Hey Jason, On Mon, 2004-03-08 at 02:53, Jason Parsons wrote: I'm using the add_virtualhost directive to create multiple mailman virtual hosts. I've been unable to find the answer to one issue, though: Is it possible to give assign an owner/password for each virtual host, allowing that owner to create/delete lists on that virtual host without having rights to any other virtual host? The only thing I find is mmsitepass, which seems to apply globally. Any pointers appreciated. I asked this question awhile ago, the short answer is that it's not possible...yet. According to Barry Mailman's handling of virtual hosting is going to be 'revamped' for MM3, which should solve the problem. Take a look at these threads: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mailman.devel/15655 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mailman.user/46839 HTH -j -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key 15:30:01 up 5 days, 50 min, 11 users, load average: 0.25, 0.20, 0.15 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribing with email interface without confirmation
On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 16:32, Mariano Wahlmann wrote: How can i subscribe users without email confirmation (like mass subscription in the web interface)? (i'm list manager). Funnily enough there's a 'Mass Subscribe' page in mailman's administrative interface, where you'll find you're given the option to send invite/subscribe, and whether to send welcome messages. -j -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key 11:30:01 up 3 days, 20:50, 9 users, load average: 0.38, 0.21, 0.19 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] inserting fields into a message
On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 05:58, E Publisher wrote: Hi, I've installed mailman to use as a mailing list (as opposed a discussion list) and I want to do something similar to what can be done in, say, Outlook when sending bulk emails and merging in data fields. Specifically, I want mailman to automatically insert the subscriber's email address into the body or footer of my message. Is it possible to insert a field in this way? You need to enable full personalisation for your mailing list, you'll find it in the web admin interface. Next time, take a quick look at the archives, there have been plenty of threads on this exact subject. -j -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key 19:30:01 up 4 days, 4:50, 9 users, load average: 0.34, 0.30, 0.28 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] i am not getting any mails to my list
On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 05:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed mailman-2.1.4.tgz in RedHat Linux 9.0 and using postfix-1.1.12-1 . My Problem is i am not getting mail which i sent to the list named systest. but in /var/log/maillog , it shows status as sent .i don't know what happend to that mail. I checked in mailman FAQ.still i couldn't solve this problem. can any one give me a good source abt configuring mailman with postfix. can any one help me to solve this. Make sure that the Mailman qrunner processes are started (ps waux | grep qrunner), if they aren't start them by using 'mailmanctl start', under my Debian installation that's at /var/lib/mailman/bin but YMMV. Concerning using Mailman with Postfix check the README.POSTFIX file that comes with Mailman it has detailed instructions on what you need to change in Postfix to get it to work with Mailman. If however you're using virtual domains as I am, then you'll need something else - I'm using a python script called postfix-to-mailman, then all mailing list mail gets sent to lists.* which is fed to postfix-to-mailman.py by Postfix, and then goes on to Mailman. It's not pretty (it's a resource hog, since mail has to be fed to a python script, and Postfix can't know whether the mail it accepts for lists.whatever will bounce), but having said all that, it does work. If you want it - it's available at: http://www.gurulabs.com/files/postfix-to-mailman-2.1.py HTH -j -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key 09:30:01 up 1 day, 18:50, 5 users, load average: 1.38, 1.04, 0.60 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] help??
On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 23:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need a little bit of help with the configuration What we are basically gonna use the mail list for is for mass emails (i have a site where i post upcomin music events happening in the area, and we send weekly emails with upcomin events to subscribed persons) what setting should i use to do this?? I only want one email address to be able to send emails to everyone. thanks!!! Use the FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=all#3.11 -j -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key 09:30:01 up 1 day, 18:50, 5 users, load average: 1.38, 1.04, 0.60 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Restriction
On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 10:23, Shouhei wrote: I am totally new to mailman and I would like to know how to set it so only Admins can post and members cant and they can only view the emails? Please help. Thankyou. Use the FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=all#3.11 and see the docs at: http://www.list.org/docs.html -j -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key 11:30:01 up 1 day, 20:50, 5 users, load average: 0.02, 0.25, 0.24 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] email posted to archive on correct date but members didn't receive email til one month later
On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 16:35, Craig Elkins wrote: I apologize if this is a repeat email. Basically, I'm trying to figure out why an email posted on feb 4th (it's in the archives) and the list members didn't receive it until today! Any help would be greatly appreciated. Firstly, please don't send HTML mail... Have you tried looking at the logs both from your MTA and Mailman? -j -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key 16:30:01 up 2 days, 1:50, 7 users, load average: 0.11, 0.16, 0.16 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] adding email address to footer
On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 06:22, E Publisher wrote: How do I add the member's email address to my message? For example, in the footer of messages that come from this Mailman users list it has: This message was sent to: {my email address} How can I do that to my own lists? You need to enable personalisation: Under Non-Digest options, ensure that 'personalize' is set to either Yes or Full. Then you can make use of additional variables, one of which being user_address, which is the user's address, and user_delivered_to which is the address that the user subscribed with. HTH - -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key 18:30:01 up 9 days, 21:57, 6 users, load average: 0.13, 0.17, 0.12 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] can i hide an internal host that hosts mailing lists?
Hey Robert, On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 12:11, Robert P. J. Day wrote: (i'm new to mailman, and still working my way through the FAQ and docs, so if there's a simple URL that addresses this, that would be just ducky.) Read through Defaults.py, under Debian it resides at /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py but if you are using another distribution YMMV. It's very liberally commented, so you shouldn't have any trouble with it. It says it in their, but I'll repeat it anyway, don't make changes to Defaults.py, because it'll be overwritten whenever you upgrade Mailman to a new version, instead make the changes in your mm_cfg.py file (on Debian that's in /etc/mailman). if you subscribe to a list, the confirmation message asks you to reply to internal.yoyodyne.com. is it possible to *completely* conceal the internal name of a mailing list host? during configuration, i did my best to avoid using the internal name and used only the lists name, but i'm assuming that mailman is invoking hostname or something to that effect somewhere along the way. The DEFAULT_URL, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST and DEFAULT_URL_HOST all control the hostname which Mailman uses for its web interface, and on the emails that it sends. DEFAULT_URL = 'http://lists.yoyodyne.com' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.yoyodyne.com' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.yoyodyne.com' From Defaults.py: Mailman needs to know about (at least) two fully-qualified domain names (fqdn); 1) the hostname used in your urls, and 2) the hostname used in email addresses for your domain. For example, if people visit your Mailman system with http://www.dom.ain/mailman; then your url fqdn is www.dom.ain, and if people send mail to your system via [EMAIL PROTECTED] then your email fqdn is dom.ain. DEFAULT_URL_HOST controls the former, and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST controls the latter. Mailman also needs to know how to map from one to the other (this is especially important if you're running with virtual domains). You use add_virtualhost(urlfqdn, emailfqdn) to add new mappings. HTH -j -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key 12:30:01 up 1 day, 15:57, 6 users, load average: 0.34, 0.32, 0.26 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Blank password problem
On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 16:47, Bob Alexander wrote: One of them just entered his email and then pressed ENTER. Of course in this way he did not enter a PASSWORD (or his real name). He did complete the registration confirmation process ok but when he tried to login into his profile he could not since he had no password ... Can I fix this (like forcing a user to input a password in the web interface) ?? If they don't enter a password Mailman will create a random one for them, and they can use the web interface to get their password emailed to them. -j -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key 17:30:01 up 1 day, 20:57, 5 users, load average: 0.08, 0.17, 0.14 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual domains and admin passwords
I still haven't got any answers to this, and I could really do with one. Is there any way of having different passwords for list creation based on the virtual domain, so for example, pass1 for lists.xyz.com and pass2 for lists.abc123.com...? Thanks in advance On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 04:14, Jamie Penman-Smithson wrote: Hey all, Currently I've got mailman setup with virtual domains support, it works by having a sub-domain assigned to mailman - lists (ex. lists.somewhere.net, lists.otherplace.org, etc.). This is all fine and good, except that all of the domains share the same site administrator password. Is there anyway of allowing users to add/remove/change mailing lists only on their site? In other words, they use a password to access the admin interface to add mailing lists, but it only works on a particular domain...? I've googled on the subject, but couldn't find anything relevant... Many thanks in advance, -j -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key 21:30:01 up 57 min, 5 users, load average: 0.02, 0.13, 0.13 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe
On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 07:34, Jake Sadoff wrote: Hello all, I'm wondering if anyone can help me ... I need a way to allow users to automatically unsubscribe themselves from my mailman list by filling out a form. Right now, users have to email me asking to be removed, and then I have to do it manually for each user/request, which is taking way too long. Any help would be s much appreciated!!! Thank you!! Jake If you've got the web interface setup correctly they need only go to that, enter their email address and click unsubscribe, or - even easier - send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - as long as you've got Privacy Options / unsubscribe_policy set to 'No', unsubscribe requests won't be moderated, which is the [only reasonable] default. Just a suggestion for future postings - some people might ignore your message because it *looks* from the subject just like another 'I can't figure out how to unsubscribe so I'll try sending an email to the mailing list' message. -j -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key 09:30:01 up 1 day, 8:04, 5 users, load average: 0.04, 0.16, 0.18 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug in Mailman 2.1.4 - URGENT !!!
Alessandro Luiz Petrocino said: I need some help over here ... hehehe ... You don't say... Try not being so hysterical about your problem next time, and obeying simple list etiquette - like ensuring you only send one message to the list. 1.) When I try to create a new list, over the web (http://www.example.com/mailman/create), I got the message: Error: Unknown virtual host: mydomain.com.br You didn't say, but I assume from this that you're using virtual hosts with mailman? If this is the case, you need to set VIRTUAL_HOSTS in your mm_cfg.py config file, for example: VIRTUAL_HOSTS = {'lists.site1.org':'site1.org', 'lists.example.net':'example.net', 'lists.site5.com':'site5.com') If you don't want to use virtual hosts with mailman, you need to remove POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS, and set VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW to false (0). See the README.POSTFIX documentation included with MM, it's very So, I can't create a new list over the web, but I can create by a command line (./newlist) ... Yes, because the create cgi looks at the VIRTUAL_HOSTS directive to find out about your virtual hosts. If it can't find a VIRTUAL_HOSTS directive, it won't recognise that virtual host. When I create a new list, and I post to this list, the message dissapers ! I can't find it !!! Bizzare ... Unless you include verbose logs of what's happening when you try to send a message to the list, nobody can help you. How are you integrating Mailman and Postfix? (there are various different methods) Check /var/log/mail.log and see if Postfix is delivering to mailman properly, and check all the logs under /var/log/mailman to see what's happening. Also check if qrunner is running, ps waux | grep qrunner - if it isn't run mailmanctl start. Note that these paths are probably different on Fedora. This is the minor of the problems ... 2.) I was a problem, have no idea how to solve this ... When I'm using a different language (like Portuguese - pt_BR), the Mailman crashes, and give this message in the web: snip Unfortunately, I haven't got any experience with using different languages with mailman so I can't help with this one. -j -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/pub.key -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Virtual domains and admin passwords
Hey all, Currently I've got mailman setup with virtual domains support, it works by having a sub-domain assigned to mailman - lists (ex. lists.somewhere.net, lists.otherplace.org, etc.). This is all fine and good, except that all of the domains share the same site administrator password. Is there anyway of allowing users to add/remove/change mailing lists only on their site? In other words, they use a password to access the admin interface to add mailing lists, but it only works on a particular domain...? I've googled on the subject, but couldn't find anything relevant... Many thanks in advance, -j -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key 03:30:01 up 1 day, 2:04, 6 users, load average: 0.14, 0.04, 0.02 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Using postfix-to-mailman-2.1
Hey Ross, On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 21:09, Ross McKillop wrote: Hi All, I'm having a small problem getting mailman to work with my postfix setup, the easiest method I've found is postfix-to-mailman-2.1.py (from http://www.gurulabs.com/files/postfix-to-mailman-2.1.py) but not having much success with it... hoping someone on this list can shed a little light on it... Postfix is running with MailScanner so I have /etc/postfix and /etc/postfix.in (the incoming MTA) Running Postfix with MailScanner is not recommended due to the unsafe way in which MS manipulates Postfix queue files (dangerously). Expect bad things to happen. /etc/postfix.in/master.cf mailman unix - n n - - pipe flags=FR user=mailman:mailman argv=/usr/local/mailman/postfix-to-mailman.py ${nexthop} ${user} Don't quote me on this, but in my master.cf I just have a user as part of the user= argument, with no group. Try omitting the group, and running with just user=mailman. *AFAIK* user= doesn't need the ':group' part. Hope this helps, -j -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key 00:30:01 up 14:57, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: MailScanner (Was: Re: [Mailman-Users] Using postfix-to-mailman-2.1)]
I was unable to send this to Ross directly, so I'm replying through the list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: host mail.iross.net[81.168.25.83] said: 554 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Relay access denied (in reply to RCPT TO command) -j -Forwarded Message- From: Jamie Penman-Smithson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ross McKillop [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MailScanner (Was: Re: [Mailman-Users] Using postfix-to-mailman-2.1) Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 01:36:22 + Hey Ross, On Sun, 2004-01-04 at 00:55, Ross McKillop wrote: Do you have a better suggestion for virus filtering with postfix? I've been quite happy with MailScanner so far and not had any problems... use it on about 3 or 4 mail servers but always happy to look at new ways of solving problems : ) I personally use amavis-new[1] which works fine for me, however your mileage may vary. Not only does it scan for viruses, but it can optionally call spamassassin to check the message as well. One point which may be an issue - it is a memory hog. I recently moved it over to another box because it was overloading my old 466MHz Intel Celeron. You might not have those same problems, but I'm a poor student and have to deal with what I've got :) You could also try, amavis-ng (I couldn't get this working myself, but others probably have). -j [1] http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/ -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key 01:30:01 up 15:57, 5 users, load average: 0.37, 0.65, 0.43 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman installation
On Mon, 2003-12-29 at 16:26, Jahir Jimenez wrote: I want to install this tool to make my mail list public for other users on my Company Network, but, I don't know how to install it or manage the .tar file that you send to me Because I'm not too expert about linux's systems. If you got some documents or something to help me I'll appreciate it. There is extensive documentation for Mailman at (surprise) http://www.list.org - I suggest that if you are new to UNIX or Linux you become comfortable with that before embarking on an installation of a complex application such as Mailman. See www.tldp.org for Linux related documentation, and the Linux FAQ at http://www.tldp.org/FAQ/Linux-FAQ/index.html -j -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key 18:30:01 up 6:12, 3 users, load average: 0.24, 0.10, 0.03 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] backing up data
On Mon, 2003-12-29 at 21:30, aryross wrote: Hello In the mailman program, how do I back up my data? Is there a list of subscribers? RTFM http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.006.htp -j -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key 18:30:01 up 6:12, 3 users, load average: 0.24, 0.10, 0.03 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not sending
Hey Michael, On Mon, 2003-12-29 at 01:07, Michael Sullivan wrote: I got mailman to run earlier this evening and I can get to the listinfo page on the internet. I subscribed myself to the list, but I haven't gotten any confirmation email or anything from the list. I've read over the mailman FAQ 3.14, but didn't find anything helpful. I did all the tests, but it didn't tell me what to do with the results. Please help!!! Have you tried running 'mailmanctl start', and check that you have something like the following processes running: list 5336 0.0 0.4 7852 236 ?SDec26 0:00 /usr/bin/python ./mailmanctl start list 5337 0.0 1.6 8416 984 ?SDec26 1:25 /usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s list 5338 0.0 1.5 7668 892 ?SDec26 1:13 /usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=BounceRunner:0:1 -s list 5339 0.0 1.4 7916 832 ?SDec26 0:41 /usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=CommandRunner:0:1 -s list 5340 0.0 1.6 7956 940 ?SDec26 1:19 /usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s list 5341 0.0 1.3 7708 812 ?SDec26 1:09 /usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s list 5342 0.0 1.8 8052 1060 ?SDec26 1:09 /usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s list 5343 0.0 1.4 7944 840 ?SDec26 0:50 /usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=VirginRunner:0:1 -s list 5344 0.0 0.7 7684 412 ?SDec26 0:38 /usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -s I was having the same problem with mailman's mail not being delivered, and the above solved it. I've been told that it's included in the FAQ (*makes a new years resolution to read documentation more closely in future*). -j -- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailman not delivering mail back to Postfix
Hey all, I've got postfix{-tls,-mysql}, Mailman, and postfix-to-mailman 2.1 (http://www.gurulabs.com/files/postfix-to-mailman-2.1.py) setup on Debian Sid (unstable): lorien:~# dpkg -l postfix* | grep ^ii ii postfix2.0.16-4 A high-performance mail transport agent ii postfix-ldap 2.0.16-4 LDAP map support for Postfix ii postfix-mysql 2.0.16-4 MYSQL map support for Postfix ii postfix-pcre 2.0.16-4 PCRE map support for Postfix ii postfix-tls2.0.16-4 TLS and SASL support for Postfix lorien:~# dpkg -l mailman* | grep ^ii ii mailman2.1.3-2Powerful, web-based mailing list manager I've setup a list using the web interface, and it's been added successfully: lorien:/var/lib/mailman/bin# ./list_lists 2 matching mailing lists found: Mailman - [no description available] sd-announce - Silverdream IS news lorien:/var/lib/mailman/bin# ./list_admins sd-announce List: sd-announce, Owners: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Postfix shows that the mail has been sent to postfix-to-mailman: Dec 26 01:47:25 lorien amavis[2532]: (02532-02) Passed, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED], Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hits: 0.048 Dec 26 01:47:26 lorien postfix/smtp[2786]: 376707846: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=192.168.1.6[192.168.1.6], delay=101, status=sent (250 2.6.0 Ok, id=02532-02, from MTA: 250 Ok: queued as 5175F7849) Dec 26 01:47:26 lorien amavis[2532]: (02532-02) ESMTP: NOTICE: client broke the connection without a QUIT Dec 26 01:47:29 lorien postfix/pipe[2799]: 5175F7849: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=mailman, delay=6, status=sent (lists.silverdream.org) Dec 26 02:33:39 lorien postfix/qmgr[2879]: E6558785E: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1374, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Dec 26 02:33:44 lorien amavis[2387]: (02387-05) Passed, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED], Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hits: 0.051 Dec 26 02:33:45 lorien postfix/pipe[3122]: E6558785E: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=mailman, delay=7, status=sent (lists.silverdream.org) Dec 26 02:33:45 lorien postfix/smtp[3119]: 9FB6C7849: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=192.168.1.6[192.168.1.6], delay=36, status=sent (250 2.6.0 Ok, id=02387-05, from MTA: 250 Ok: queued as E6558785E) Dec 26 02:33:53 lorien cyrus/master[17529]: process 3108 exited, status 0 ...and all the mail is sitting in Mailman's queue: From: Jamie Penman-Smithson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: PocoMail 3.03 (1740) - EVALUATION VERSION X-URL: http://www.pocomail.com/ Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 02:33:10 GMT Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: subscribe It appears the mail is getting delivered to postfix-to-mailman.py and then to mailman, but after that nothing appears to happen. I've checked /var/log/mailman/errors, and it's empty. I did show-qfiles on the qfiles/virgin directory and it shows two outbound messages: /var/lib/mailman/qfiles/virgin/1072096291.5388401+f84a04ab843bf8cd7c1dca80b94fe25fc58b3b4f.pck MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Your new mailing list: mailman From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:31:31 + Precedence: bulk /var/lib/mailman/qfiles/virgin/1072401079.214362+11df5743f51e4cdca44869ec30d1dfde28869388.pck MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Your new mailing list: sd-announce From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 01:11:19 + Precedence: bulk But none of it is ever getting back to postfix. I've checked my settings in /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py # Use Postfix as the MTA MTA = 'Postfix' # How to deliver mail DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' # Deliver to mailhost on port 25 SMTPHOST = 'lorien.silverdream.hq' SMTPPORT = 25 # default from smtplib I double-checked that my DNS was still okay (just to rule it out): lorien:/var/lib/mailman/bin# host lorien.silverdream.hq lorien.silverdream.hq has address 192.168.1.6 In case it was a permissions problem I ran check_perms: lorien:/var/lib/mailman/bin# ./check_perms /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases.db owned by www-data (must be owned by list Problems found: 1 Re-run as list (or root) with -f flag to fix AFAIK this shouldn't stop mail from being delivered? Can anyone offer any suggestions? Help would be appreciated - I'm running out of ideas(!) Thanks in advance Happy Holidays, Jamie --- -jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Support The Blue Ribbon Campaign - http://eff.org/brl -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org