[Mailman-Users] running Mailman for multiple domains inside docker containers

2017-01-31 Thread Jason Fayre
Hi,

I'm looking to move my server to a new provider. In the process, I'm
considering moving my mailman installation into docker containers. I have a
few questions for anyone who is doing this:

1. Which docker container did you use? I've seen a few different mailman
containers.

2. Right now, my mailing lists are all off of one domain. When I move, I'm
considering having one or two lists on different domains. Is this possible
with Docker? If so, can anyone give me any pointers?

Thanks much!

 

 

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[Mailman-Users] searchable archive options for cpanel server

2016-07-14 Thread Jason Fayre
Hi,

I really wish I didn't need to ask this, but alas, I do.

We have a server running cPanel that hosts around 200 mailing lists. We
really want to have searchable archives. If I install the mailman htdig
patches, cPanel won't support us.

Other than not using cPanel, what are other folks doing:? I know we have the
option of using mailarchive.org, but we would like to keep the archives
internal if possible.

Any suggestions would be appreciated!

 

 

 

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[Mailman-Users] mail cron jobs not running

2016-06-17 Thread Jason Fayre

Hello,
I administer a server that is running cPanel. The version of Mailman on 
the server is 2.1.20. We're having an issue where the mailman cron jobs 
don't seem to be running. Everything was working until cPanel did a 
reinstall of mailman. Specifically, the daily digests aren't going out. 
Everything in the crontab looks right. We do have one cron job that is 
throwing an error, but that is for root, not the mailman user.

If I run the senddigest script manually, everything works.
Any ideas

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[Mailman-Users] creating a htdig global search

2015-09-04 Thread Jason Fayre
Hello,
After getting HTDig to work on a per-list basis, I'd now like to set up a
global search for all of our lists. 
Has anyone done this? I'm not sure what to put in the config file for
start_url to have it build a master index of all the archives.
Any help would be appreciated.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] integrating htdig with cpanel mailman

2015-09-03 Thread Jason Fayre
Hi,
I finally got htdig to compile from source. So, I got rid of the centos
package and am now using a vanilla build. The rundig patch applied correctly
now.



-Original Message-
From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 1:11 PM
To: Jason Fayre ; 'Mailman Users' 
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] integrating htdig with cpanel mailman

On 09/03/2015 08:02 AM, Jason Fayre wrote:
> Hello,
> I made the modifications you suggested. 
> Now when I run nightly_htdig on a list, I get an error back that "I" 
> is an invalid option for htfuzzy. I uncommented that line in the rundig
script.
> Any ideas?
> If it isn't critical, I can just re-comment that line.


I'm sorry. I didn't keep the rundig you sent me so I can't be sure, but it
appears that RedHat's modified rundig may be broken in some way.

On the other hand, if in making the mod to nightly_htdig you have

init_or_update = ' -I'

that is the problem. it needs to be lower case ' -i'.

If that doesn't explain it, you can send me the rundig again and I'll look
further.

Whether or not you want the uncommented

$BINDIR/htfuzzy $opts soundex metaphone

line is up to you. What this does is enable the search to match alternate
spellings of the search words that 'sound alike'.

However, even if you re-comment that line, there may be other problems even
if it doesn't complain.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] integrating htdig with cpanel mailman

2015-09-03 Thread Jason Fayre
Hello,
I made the modifications you suggested. 
Now when I run nightly_htdig on a list, I get an error back that "I" is an
invalid option for htfuzzy. I uncommented that line in the rundig script.
Any ideas?
If it isn't critical, I can just re-comment that line.


-Original Message-
From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+jason=fayre...@python.org]
On Behalf Of Mark Sapiro
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:34 PM
To: Mailman Users 
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] integrating htdig with cpanel mailman

Forwarding to mailman-users for completeness.

On 09/02/2015 05:29 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 09/02/2015 05:07 PM, Jason Fayre wrote:
>> Here you go.
>> Thanks so much for your help on this!
>> This rundig is from the centos 6.7 htdig package.
> 
> 
> Your rundig has been modified from the 3.2.0b6 htdig base. The base 
> rundig always does a full rebuild of the index My patch to rundig adds 
> a '-u' option to do an 'update' rather than a full rebuild. Your 
> RedHat/Centos package rundig already has this option only it's '-i' 
> for incremental.
> 
> Thus, you don't need to patch your rundig at all unless you want to 
> uncomment line 79 (which my patch does) per lines 77-79
> 
> # If you want to use the soundex and (or) metaphone fuzzy matchings, # 
> Uncomment the following line # $BINDIR/htfuzzy $opts soundex metaphone
> 
> What you do need to do however is change nightly_htdig. My patch added 
> amongst other things the line
> 
> init_or_update = ' -u'
> 
> per
> 
> @@ -109,6 +109,7 @@
>  # test if the archive volume directories mod times have
>  # changed
>  recent_posts = None
> +init_or_update = ' -u'
>  rundig_run_file = os.path.join(list_htdig_dir, 'rundig_last_run')
>  archive = HyperArch.HyperArchive(mlist)
>  try:
> 
> You need to change that to
> 
> init_or_update = ' -i'
> 
> because in your rundig the 'incremental' option is '-i', not '-u'.
> 


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Re: [Mailman-Users] integrating htdig with cpanel mailman

2015-09-02 Thread Jason Fayre

Hi,
Here is a script from when I ran the patch:
Script started on Wed 02 Sep 2015 11:35:43 PM UTC
root@host [/usr/bin]# patch < ~/rundig
patching file rundig
Hunk #1 succeeded at 16 with fuzz 2 (offset 1 line).
Hunk #2 FAILED at 59.
Hunk #3 succeeded at 78 (offset 4 lines).
1 out of 3 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file rundig.rej
root@host [/usr/bin]# cat rundig.rej
--- rundig2008-12-26 15:55:25.0 -0800
+++ rundig2008-12-26 17:41:43.0 -0800
@@ -59,7 +61,7 @@
 TMPDIR=$DBDIR
 export TMPDIR

-$BINDIR/htdig -i $opts $stats $alt
+$BINDIR/htdig $init $opts $stats $alt
 $BINDIR/htpurge $opts $alt
 case "$alt" in
 -a)
root@host [/usr/bin]#


On 2015-09-02 4:23 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

On 09/02/2015 12:02 PM, Jason Fayre wrote:

Hi,
Almost got it. Since some of our lists are very large and the archives go
back almost 7 years, generating the indexes can take a very long time.
To be able to update the indexes, do I need both the rundig and
nightly_htdig patches from msapiro.net/mm? The rundig patch failed when I
tried to patch the rundig from 3.2.0b6.


Yes, you need both. How did the rundig patch fail?



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Re: [Mailman-Users] integrating htdig with cpanel mailman

2015-09-02 Thread Jason Fayre
Hi,
Almost got it. Since some of our lists are very large and the archives go
back almost 7 years, generating the indexes can take a very long time.
To be able to update the indexes, do I need both the rundig and
nightly_htdig patches from msapiro.net/mm? The rundig patch failed when I
tried to patch the rundig from 3.2.0b6.



-Original Message-
From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 12:31 PM
To: Jason Fayre ; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] integrating htdig with cpanel mailman

On 09/02/2015 08:54 AM, Jason Fayre wrote:
> Ok, I will try that.
> What version of htdig are you running?


3.2.0b6 with the rundig.0 patch from
<ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/htdig-patches/3.2.0b6/> and with this patch the source
of which I no longer remember and can't find.

RCS file: /cvsroot/htdig/htdig/htsearch/Collection.h,v
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -r1.4 Collection.h
39c39
< void Collection::Open();
---
> void Open();
41c41
< void Collection::Close();
---
> void Close();


Also, in an earlier reply I wrote:
>> If you want to make another attempt to access a list archive then go 
>> via the list users information page.
>> 
>> If this problem persists then please e-mail the following information 
>> to the mailman at nfbnet.org:
>> Referer not known
>> /mailman/mmsearch/blparent_nfbnet.org
> 
> 
> The above is not familiar to me. It may be a cPanel thing.


Actually, that is also part of the normal expected output from running
mmsearch with no parameters.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] integrating htdig with cpanel mailman

2015-09-02 Thread Jason Fayre
Absolutely unbelievable!
I got results to come up by simlinking /var/www/html/htdig to
/usr/share/htdig. Apparently this path is hard-coded in the binaries.
I installed htdig from the Centos 6.7 packages. It wouldn't compile from
source for some reason.


-Original Message-
From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 12:31 PM
To: Jason Fayre ; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] integrating htdig with cpanel mailman

On 09/02/2015 08:54 AM, Jason Fayre wrote:
> Ok, I will try that.
> What version of htdig are you running?


3.2.0b6 with the rundig.0 patch from
<ftp://ftp.ccsf.org/htdig-patches/3.2.0b6/> and with this patch the source
of which I no longer remember and can't find.

RCS file: /cvsroot/htdig/htdig/htsearch/Collection.h,v
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -r1.4 Collection.h
39c39
< void Collection::Open();
---
> void Open();
41c41
< void Collection::Close();
---
> void Close();


Also, in an earlier reply I wrote:
>> If you want to make another attempt to access a list archive then go 
>> via the list users information page.
>> 
>> If this problem persists then please e-mail the following information 
>> to the mailman at nfbnet.org:
>> Referer not known
>> /mailman/mmsearch/blparent_nfbnet.org
> 
> 
> The above is not familiar to me. It may be a cPanel thing.


Actually, that is also part of the normal expected output from running
mmsearch with no parameters.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] integrating htdig with cpanel mailman

2015-09-02 Thread Jason Fayre
Ok, I will try that.
What version of htdig are you running?


-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 11:46 AM
To: Jason Fayre ; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] integrating htdig with cpanel mailman

On 09/02/2015 06:22 AM, Jason Fayre wrote:
> Hello,
> I do not get any rejects when applying the patch.
> I did pass the config file for the list to htsearch with the -c option.
> Any other ideas? 


The attached htsearch.txt is a transcript of an htsearch interaction on my
system. If you do the same do you get similar output? If not, your htdig
installation is broken.


> How are people typically handling archive search? I know I could use 
> mail-archive, but would rather handle things on our end if we can.


I use htdig with Richard Barrett's patches as forward ported by me.
Other suggestions are in the FAQ at <http://wiki.list.org/x/4030514>.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] integrating htdig with cpanel mailman

2015-09-02 Thread Jason Fayre
Hello,
I do not get any rejects when applying the patch.
I did pass the config file for the list to htsearch with the -c option.
Any other ideas? 
How are people typically handling archive search? I know I could use
mail-archive, but would rather handle things on our end if we can.
Occasionally we need to remove messages from the archives and not sure how
easy that is with mail-archive.


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From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+jason=fayre...@python.org]
On Behalf Of Mark Sapiro
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 3:04 AM
To: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] integrating htdig with cpanel mailman

On 09/01/2015 12:32 PM, Jason Fayre wrote:
> Hello,
> I'm attempting to get Mailman 2.1.20 working with htdig.
> I've installed the htdig patch for this version of Mailman from Mark's
site.


I'd be surprised if this doesn't have conflicts with cPanel's mods. What
happened when you ran patch? were there any rejects?


> When I run a search from the archive pages, I get a blank page.
> I've seen others asking this, but have never seen a solution.
> I think I may have had this working a few years ago, but don't 
> remember what I did to fix it. It broke when cpanel updated mailman.


Not surprising. cPanel's mailman has many patches of its own, mostly because
of the list name = name_domain feature to allow lists of the same 'name' in
different domains.


> When I try running the mmsearch script by itself, I get the following 
> error, which is expected as I under stand it:
> htdig Archives Access Failure
> CGI problem. -5-Field count -4- fields: 


Yes, this is expected. You could try going to a URL like

<http://example.com/mailman/mmsearch/LISTNAME?method=and&format=short&sort=s
core&config=LISTNAME>


> If you want to make another attempt to access a list archive then go 
> via the list users information page.
> 
> If this problem persists then please e-mail the following information 
> to the
> mail...@nfbnet.org: 
> Referer not known
> /mailman/mmsearch/blparent_nfbnet.org


The above is not familiar to me. It may be a cPanel thing.


> Running the htsearch command by itself doesn't yield any results with 
> a keyword and the short format.


Do you specify the -c option with an appropriate config file?


> The version of htdig is 3.2.0b6. I noticed that there are patched 
> versions of rundig and the nightly scripts on the patch site, but 
> don't know if that applies to newer patches or not.


Those patches allow the nightly update to do an update rather than a
complete rebuild of the htdig search index.


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[Mailman-Users] integrating htdig with cpanel mailman

2015-09-01 Thread Jason Fayre
Hello,
I'm attempting to get Mailman 2.1.20 working with htdig.
I've installed the htdig patch for this version of Mailman from Mark's site.
When I run a search from the archive pages, I get a blank page.
I've seen others asking this, but have never seen a solution.
I think I may have had this working a few years ago, but don't remember what
I did to fix it. It broke when cpanel updated mailman.
When I try running the mmsearch script by itself, I get the following error,
which is expected as I under stand it:
htdig Archives Access Failure
CGI problem. -5-Field count -4- fields: 
If you want to make another attempt to access a list archive then go via the
list users information page. 

If this problem persists then please e-mail the following information to the
mail...@nfbnet.org: 
Referer not known
/mailman/mmsearch/blparent_nfbnet.org

Running the htsearch command by itself doesn't yield any results with a
keyword and the short format.
The version of htdig is 3.2.0b6. I noticed that there are patched versions
of rundig and the nightly scripts on the patch site, but don't know if that
applies to newer patches or not.

Any help would be appreciated.



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[Mailman-Users] htdig patch and blank pages

2013-10-14 Thread Jason Fayre

Hi,
I'm trying to get htdig integration working on Mailman 2.1.15. When I 
try and run a search, I just get a blank page back with no results.  I 
followed the instructions for installing the patch.

I'm not seeing any errors in the log.  Any thoughts?
It appears that search with htsearch isn't returning anything either.
I'm using a default htdig installation on centos 6.  htdig version is 3.2.0.
nightly_htdig script isn't throwing any errors.




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mailman-users@python.org

2013-06-17 Thread Jason Fayre

Hi,
This may not be strictly on-topic for this list, but I'm getting 
extremely frustrated and am  hoping someone can give me some ideas.
We moved our mailman server to a VPS with a new IP address.  After the 
move, our IP has been blacklisted by AT&T.  We had some DNS trouble 
initially, and this may be why.
I've submitted the form that at&t tells you to in order to get your IP 
removed from the blacklist.  I then get a response back saying that the 
IP is not blacklisted.  However, I've got recent bounce messages saying 
we are.  If I try and telnet to at&t's mail servers from the mailman 
server, I get rejected because of a blacklisted Ip.  The IP they are 
saying is blacklisted is the same one I submitted on there web form.
Does anyone have any strategies in dealing with at&t?  I would love... 
god forbid... to actually talk to someone in their postmaster team about 
this.
We host around 200 mailing lists for the National Federation of the 
Blind.  Some of the lists are fairly high traffic.  We are not sending 
out spam.

Any help or suggestions would be apreciated.

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[Mailman-Users] odd issues with fqdn listinfo

2013-05-28 Thread Jason Fayre

Hi,
First off, let me say thanks for all the amazing help I have received 
from this list!
We have just migrated our mailing lists from a old server running cPanel 
to a new one, also running cPanel.  I have a feeling that this issue may 
have to do with the patches that cPanel applies to Mailman.
If I go to domain.com/mailman/listinfo, I see all of our public mailing 
lists.  However, if I go to www.domain.com/mailman/listinfo, I am told 
that there are no public lists on the server.
The crazy thing is that this worked on the old server.  Since I wasn't 
the one who set up the old system, it is possible that someone put some 
sort of apache rewrite rule on the old system to make this work.


Any ideas?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] searching list archives

2013-05-27 Thread Jason Fayre
Ok, thanks.  I had looked at the install doc, but not the readme.  As I 
understand it, this will allow me to search each list from the archive 
toc page.  Is there a way to create a master index of all lists that can 
be searched?


On 5/27/2013 2:10 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

On 05/27/2013 10:50 AM, Jason Fayre wrote:

Hello,
The version of mailman on my server is 2.1.15.  It looks like the latest
htdig patch is for 2.1.14.  Will this still work?


There is a 2.1.15 patch at
<http://www.msapiro.net/mm/index_htdig.patch.2.1.15>.

Also see <http://www.msapiro.net/mm/_README>.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] searching list archives

2013-05-27 Thread Jason Fayre

Hello,
The version of mailman on my server is 2.1.15.  It looks like the latest 
htdig patch is for 2.1.14.  Will this still work?


On 5/25/2013 6:39 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

On 05/25/2013 12:50 PM, Jason Fayre wrote:

Hello,
Thanks for your response!  The only issue here is that my mailman
install is running under cpanel.  Is it possible to apply these patches
to a cpanel modified mailman install?  If not, is my only alternative to
replace cpanel's provided mailman version?
I have access to root on the server.


Replacing cPanel's Mailman is probably tricky, and if you actually have
lists of the same name in more than one domain, that's not supported in
standard GNU Mailman.

I think the indexing/htdig patches would port fairly easily to cPanel,
but the only way to know is to try.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] searching list archives

2013-05-25 Thread Jason Fayre

Hello,
Thanks for your response!  The only issue here is that my mailman 
install is running under cpanel.  Is it possible to apply these patches 
to a cpanel modified mailman install?  If not, is my only alternative to 
replace cpanel's provided mailman version?

I have access to root on the server.




On 5/20/2013 3:15 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

On 05/20/2013 11:44 AM, Jason Fayre wrote:

Hi,
Wondering if someone can point me in the right direction.  I am trying
to set up a system to allow searching of individual list archives, as
well as a global search.  I currently have this set up with swish-e.
However, I would like something that will automatically create the
indexes and config files for a list as it is created.  Is there any sort
of turnkey solution for this?


There are patches that do this among other things for htdig. See
<http://www.msapiro.net/mm/> and the HTDIG section of
<http://www.msapiro.net/mm/_README>. I don't know how difficult it would
be to modify these for swish-e.



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[Mailman-Users] moving archives before migration

2013-05-24 Thread Jason Fayre

Hello,
I am in the process of migrating data from a server to a new vps. The 
server is hosting around 200 lists.  The mail archives on this server 
are around 30GB.
The only way I can get the data to the new server is over the internet.  
Due to the speed of the DSL link (700k upload), I need to turn off the 
mail server in order to migrate data at any sort of reasonable speed.
What I would like to do is move the list archives out of the mailman 
directory temporarily while we migrate everything else over.  Then, once 
we have the new server set up, move the archives.
cPanel is doing the migration, and they cannot selectively exclude 
directories.  They need to move the account with the mailing lists as 
one package.
If this makes any sort of sense, can someone point me in the right 
direction on how we might accomplish this.  If we can't do the archives 
later, I'm going to need to have the mail server down for about a week 
while the data moves over.  I'm trying to avoid this, since some of our 
lists are fairly high traffic.



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[Mailman-Users] searching list archives

2013-05-20 Thread Jason Fayre

Hi,
Wondering if someone can point me in the right direction.  I am trying 
to set up a system to allow searching of individual list archives, as 
well as a global search.  I currently have this set up with swish-e.  
However, I would like something that will automatically create the 
indexes and config files for a list as it is created.  Is there any sort 
of turnkey solution for this?


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[Mailman-Users] migrating to a VPS and large mail archives

2013-04-14 Thread Jason Fayre

Hello,
I am administering a server that runs around 150 lists.  The mail 
archives are around 26gb in size.  Due to the server being hacked and 
various other reasons, we want to move the mailing lists over to  a 
virtual server.  Most VPS plans only give you around 20 to 30gb of disk 
space.  I'm sure I'm not the first person to run into this sort of 
issue.  What have other people done for things like mail archives?  I 
was thinking of doing something with amazon s3. Looking for any thoughts 
people may have.


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[Mailman-Users] using mailing list folder in archive template

2011-11-18 Thread Jason Fayre

Hello,
I am relatively new to Mailman.  I am administering a server with around 
200 lists on it.  I am setting up Swish-e to provide searchable list 
archives.  Each list has it's own search.  In the search form, I need to 
be able to reference a cgi script.
Each list has its own cgi script in the mailman cgi-bin folder.  The 
names of the cgi scripts are the same as the folder containing the 
mailing list in mailman.
I thought I could just use %(listname)s in my templates to reference 
this.  Unfortunately, this is returning the friendly list name, not the 
name of the folder where the list resides.  I can change my cgi script 
names if I need to, but I was wondering if there is a template tag I can 
use to insert the name of the list as it appears in the mailman lists 
directory.
Also, is there a list of the mailman tags that can be used in these 
templates?

Thanks!

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