[Mailman-Users] unsubbing people who don't know their address

2001-10-19 Thread Joshua S. Freeman

OK,

we have some people subscribed to a list (a list with some 5,000 people on
it)... and they can't remember what email address they used to subscribe
to the list so that they can unsubscribe themselves.  They write and ask
me to just search for any subscribers from 'thisdomian.com'... in these
cases they own the domain and don't remember which username they used to
subscribe.

I noticed in /mailman/bin a script called 'find_member' but I don't 'read'
python and don't know if that's some kind of utility to do what I'm trying
to do.

TIA for any assistance..

cheers,

J.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubbing people who don't know their address

2001-10-19 Thread Joshua S. Freeman

Thanks Greg...

I was reluctant to run the script until I knew what it did and what
parameters it took.. I guess I didn't give the creators of mailman
enough credit and for that I am truly sorry!

cheers,

J.

On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, Greg Ward
wrote:

> On 19 October 2001, Joshua S. Freeman said:
> > I noticed in /mailman/bin a script called 'find_member' but I don't 'read'
> > python and don't know if that's some kind of utility to do what I'm trying
> > to do.
> 
> You don't have to read Python, just English.  Running find_member
> without arguments gives a help message.  If you don't know which lists
> this person is a member of, find_member looks useful.
> 
> If you know the list in question, you probably want to use list_members
> with our old friend grep.  Eg. to find all "@aol.com" users on
> "foo-list":
> 
>   cd ~mailman
>   ./bin/list_members foo-list | grep '@aol\.com'
> 
> Good luck --
> 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Downloading a copy of the users emails?

2001-10-19 Thread Joshua S. Freeman

Are all of those utilities documented somewhere?

TIA,

J.

On Fri, 19 Oct 2001,
Amanda wrote:

> Hm. Do folks not know of the existence of the bin directory, or are they
> frightened of it? I suppose I use the same methods of evaluating and exploring
> software that I do when playing that minefield game... make your best guess,
> and then click on it and see if it blows up...
> 
> Jeremy: cd to wherever/mailman/bin and do:
> ./list_members listname > flatfile.txt
> 
> =)
> Amanda
> 
> 
> "Jeremy Luebke - RockHosting.com" wrote:
> 
> > Is there a way that I can download a copy of all my members email addresses
> > so I can transfer them to a different program on a different server?
> >
> > Thanks
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[Mailman-Users] why can't people see my lists?

2001-10-31 Thread Joshua S. Freeman

http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo/

I have four lists running and. for each of them, in the Privacy Options
page I have "Advertise this list when people ask what lists are on the
machine?" set to "Yes". Isn't that where I set this feature?

TIA,

J.

(p.s.- i've shutdown and restarted, refreshed, etc.. my browser repeatedly
but still no lists are showing up.)

thanks again...

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Re: [Mailman-Users] why can't people see my lists?

2001-11-01 Thread Joshua S. Freeman

ok, but WHERE?.. where do I put those in?

J.

On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Vania Lolham
wrote:

> You need to give your URLs to each list for subscribers, now
> only admin list is visible
> http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo/
> 
> 
> Like this:
> http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo/dev
> http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo/doc
> http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo/examples
> http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo/support
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -
> From: "Joshua S. Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 3:31 AM
> Subject: [Mailman-Users] why can't people see my lists?
> 
> 
> > http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo/
> >
> > I have four lists running and. for each of them, in the
> Privacy Options
> > page I have "Advertise this list when people ask what
> lists are on the
> > machine?" set to "Yes". Isn't that where I set this
> feature?
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > J.
> >
> > (p.s.- i've shutdown and restarted, refreshed, etc.. my
> browser repeatedly
> > but still no lists are showing up.)
> >
> > thanks again...
> >
> > J.
> >
> >
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Re: [Mailman-Users] why can't people see my lists?

2001-11-01 Thread Joshua S. Freeman

ah so.

understood...

So.. there's no way, from within mailman, to create a mailman-generated
page which lists all the lists that that installation of mailman is
serving...

gotcha...

Thanks,

J.

On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, Vania Lolham wrote:

> How do you advertise your mailing list?
> On your web site?
> To get to the "Welcome" page "listinfo" still people have to
> know about it.
> 
> cheers
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] why can't people see my lists?

2001-11-01 Thread Joshua S. Freeman

OK, then my question remains this:

WHY AREN'T MY LISTS SHOWING UP?... I've set the permission on the
privacy page for each of the 4 lists on our server, yet they're not
showing up when I run http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo

They are meant to be advertised lists yet they're not showing up.

J.

On Thu, 1
Nov
2001, Dan Mick wrote:

> I don't understand this discussion.
> 
> /mailman/listinfo/ is indeed the default "list of
> known advertised lists".  It's constructed on the fly by Mailman
> and should include every list that 1) matches  and 2) is
> advertised as "public".
> 
> > ah so.
> > 
> > understood...
> > 
> > So.. there's no way, from within mailman, to create a mailman-generated
> > page which lists all the lists that that installation of mailman is
> > serving...
> > 
> > gotcha...
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > J.
> > 
> > On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, Vania Lolham wrote:
> > 
> > > How do you advertise your mailing list?
> > > On your web site?
> > > To get to the "Welcome" page "listinfo" still people have to
> > > know about it.
> > > 
> > > cheers
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] why can't people see my lists?

2001-11-02 Thread Joshua S. Freeman

Thanks James,

That was it (the long-ish answer)...


Thanks a million.

cheers,

J.

On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, James Watson
wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 08:30:45PM -0500, Joshua S. Freeman wrote:
> > OK, then my question remains this:
> > 
> > WHY AREN'T MY LISTS SHOWING UP?... I've set the permission on the
> > privacy page for each of the 4 lists on our server, yet they're not
> > showing up when I run http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo
> > 
> > They are meant to be advertised lists yet they're not showing up.
> 
> Short answer: set VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW=0 in mm_cfg.py.
> 
> Long answer:
> If you go to: http://mysql.org/mailman/listinfo you can see them.  The list
> hostname is set to "mysql.org" instead of "www.mysql.org".  Changing the list
> hostname should fix it.
> 
> Mailman includes some virtual hosting features that will limit
> the list of lists to those for the current virtual host.  It does
> this by matching the list hostname with the http hostname.  However,
> this is a case-sensitive match, so if you change the list hostname to
> www.mysql.org, then http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo will work,
> but http://www.MySQL.org/mailman/listinfo will not. You can avoid this
> problem by setting VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW=0 in mm_cfg.py. This will cause
> Mailman to advertise all public lists, regardless of the http hostname.
> 
> -James
> 
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[Mailman-Users] renaming a list

2001-11-19 Thread Joshua S. Freeman

I have an installation of mailman with one list running.  It's for my
daughter's school.  Currently, the list name is 'atrium'  and it's
description is 'atrium school email list'.

I won't go into all the details, but I think it might be wise at this
point to rename it 'unofficial-atrium'... the description I can manage
myself.  

What is the best way to rename a running list?

(nothing i could find in the faq for this... it might make a good faq..)

j.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] renaming a list

2001-11-19 Thread Joshua S. Freeman

Thanks Marc...

I was afraid of that... I dread looking around in the archives due to
the lack of a search engine (such as htdig...)

I'm looking now.

cheers,

J.

On Mon, 19 Nov
2001, Marc MERLIN wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 07:53:58PM -0500, Joshua S. Freeman wrote:
> > I have an installation of mailman with one list running.  It's for my
> > daughter's school.  Currently, the list name is 'atrium'  and it's
> > description is 'atrium school email list'.
> > 
> > I won't go into all the details, but I think it might be wise at this
> > point to rename it 'unofficial-atrium'... the description I can manage
> > myself.  
> > 
> > What is the best way to rename a running list?
> 
> go back in the archives, Barry gave a very detailled step by step checklist
> 2-3 months ago.
> 
> Marc
> -- 
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[Mailman-Users] best way to upgrade from 2.0.6

2001-11-28 Thread Joshua S. Freeman

Hi folks... 

What is the least painful way to upgrade from 2.0.6 to 2.0.8?

TIA,

J.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] best way to upgrade from 2.0.6

2001-11-28 Thread Joshua S. Freeman

well, I guess I was wondering whether to do that or to try patching what 
i've got... what are the pros/cons of each method?

J.

On Wed, 28 Nov 2001,
Marc MERLIN wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 01:07:41PM -0500, Joshua S. Freeman wrote:
> > Hi folks... 
> > 
> > What is the least painful way to upgrade from 2.0.6 to 2.0.8?
> 
> make install ?
> 
> Marc
> -- 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] best way to upgrade from 2.0.6

2001-11-28 Thread Joshua S. Freeman

i'm admittedly a very low-level sysadmin, trying to learn best
practices.

J.

On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Marc MERLIN wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 01:46:00PM -0500, Joshua S. Freeman wrote:
> > well, I guess I was wondering whether to do that or to try patching what 
> > i've got... what are the pros/cons of each method?
> 
> Err, why?
> 
> I've always patched/upgraded my source tree, and typed make install.
> 
> Marc
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[Mailman-Users] slight technical hitch...

2001-10-11 Thread Joshua S. Freeman

Hi,

I have been through the FAQ and the README.SENDMAIL document and have not
found the solution I need.

I have successfully installed mailman on my linux box. I am using
sendmail.  I can create lists and hit their web pages and subscribe people
and receive subscription messages, etc.

I CANNOT send emails to the list. Here's what I get in reply:


-snip--


The original message was received at Thu, 11 Oct 2001 12:01:49 -0400
   from nobody@localhost

  - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
   "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post mm-test"
   (reason: 2)
   (expanded from: [EMAIL PROTECTED])

  - Transcript of session follows -
   Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 12, GOT gid 2.  (Reconfigure to take
2?)
   554 5.3.0 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post mm-test"... unknown mailer
error 2

   Reporting-MTA: dns; mysql.org
   Arrival-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 12:01:49 -0400

   Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   X-Actual-Recipient: X-Unix; |/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post mm-test
   Action: failed
   Status: 5.0.0
   Diagnostic-Code: X-Unix; 2
   Last-Attempt-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 12:01:49 -0400

-snip-

can anyone tell me what's wrong?

It's important (for my job) that I get this working.

Many T'sIA

J.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] slight technical hitch...

2001-10-11 Thread Joshua S. Freeman

Thanks David,

Unfortnately,  looking at our sendmail.cf file, DefaultUser is not set..


# default UID (can be username or userid:groupid)
#O DefaultUser=mailnull


Is there a UID or GID that sendmail uses, that mailman might want in cases
like this where sendmail.cf does not indicate a specific defaultUser?

TIA,

J.



On
Thu, 11 Oct 2001, David Ball wrote:

>   As the error message indicates, it's not thrilled with the GID
> that it you're running the mail wrapper with.  Fixing this requires that
> you rerun ./configure with the --with-mail-gid= and set it to the same GID
> that your mailer uses (check your sendmail.cf...look for DefaultUser= and
> use the second number).  Naturally, you'd follow this up with a `make
> install` ... hope that helps!
>   Check http://www.list.org/install-config.html for more details on
> ./configure options.
> 
> David
> 
> On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, Joshua S. Freeman wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I have been through the FAQ and the README.SENDMAIL document and have not
> > found the solution I need.
> > 
> > I have successfully installed mailman on my linux box. I am using
> > sendmail.  I can create lists and hit their web pages and subscribe people
> > and receive subscription messages, etc.
> > 
> > I CANNOT send emails to the list. Here's what I get in reply:
> > 
> > 
> > -snip--
> > 
> > 
> > The original message was received at Thu, 11 Oct 2001 12:01:49 -0400
> >from nobody@localhost
> > 
> >   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
> >"|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post mm-test"
> >(reason: 2)
> >(expanded from: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > 
> >   - Transcript of session follows -
> >Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 12, GOT gid 2.  (Reconfigure to take
> > 2?)
> >554 5.3.0 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post mm-test"... unknown mailer
> > error 2
> > 
> >Reporting-MTA: dns; mysql.org
> >Arrival-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 12:01:49 -0400
> > 
> >Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >X-Actual-Recipient: X-Unix; |/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post mm-test
> >Action: failed
> >Status: 5.0.0
> >Diagnostic-Code: X-Unix; 2
> >Last-Attempt-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 12:01:49 -0400
> > 
> > -snip-
> > 
> > can anyone tell me what's wrong?
> > 
> > It's important (for my job) that I get this working.
> > 
> > Many T'sIA
> > 
> > J.
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[Mailman-Users] problem solved

2001-10-11 Thread Joshua S. Freeman

DOH!

I was forgetting the '=' sign in my --with-mail-gid argument to
./configure.

I think things are working fine now...

Thanks!

cheers,

J.

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[Mailman-Users] why can't othe people see the listinfo/ page?

2001-10-11 Thread Joshua S. Freeman

OK.

I'm at my company, working all day on our remote server at rackspace.

With help from a couple people here, I get Mailman up and running...

I'm able to send emails to the list and the emails get distributed.

but something REALLY WIERD is occuring.

I can go to http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo/ from here BUT NO ONE
ELSE can get to anything after http://www.mysql.org/mailman/  !!!

Why would that be?  where would the control for this soft of thing live?
in mailman?  in apache?.. sendmail?  where

Please, please help.

Thanks!

J.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] why can't othe people see the listinfo/ page?

2001-10-11 Thread Joshua S. Freeman

THAT WAS IT... actually, one of my colleagues and I got together and
figured it out.. but thanks a million Jon.. HUGELY helpful!

cheers,

J.

On Thu, 11 Oct
2001, Jon Carnes wrote:

> Sounds like a rights issue for the website.  "mailman" is a cgi-bin for your
> Apache...
> 
> # Added for use by Mailman scripts
> ScriptAlias /mailman/ "/home/mailman/cgi-bin/"
> 
> 
> AllowOverride None
> Options ExecCGI
> Order allow,deny
> Allow from all
> 
> 
> The rights to that directory should be:
> drwxrwsr-x2 mailman  mailman  4096 Jan  9  2001 cgi-bin
> 
> and the rights to listinfo (in that directory) should be:
> -rwxr-sr-x1 mailman  mailman 30782 Jan  9  2001 listinfo
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Jon Carnes
> ===
> > OK.
> >
> > I'm at my company, working all day on our remote server at rackspace.
> >
> > With help from a couple people here, I get Mailman up and running...
> >
> > I'm able to send emails to the list and the emails get distributed.
> >
> > but something REALLY WIERD is occuring.
> >
> > I can go to http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo/ from here BUT NO ONE
> > ELSE can get to anything after http://www.mysql.org/mailman/  !!!
> >
> > Why would that be?  where would the control for this soft of thing live?
> > in mailman?  in apache?.. sendmail?  where
> >
> > Please, please help.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > J.
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[Mailman-Users] newbie question...

2001-03-20 Thread Joshua S. Freeman

I'm a bit slow.. i've done things in the wrong order...

I installed mailman (newest version) i'm running VA enhanced RH 6.2.4...

mailman installed fine.. i created a test list... unfortunately, I went to
it's website, added a user account and sent a test mail to the list from
that user account before I realized just what I was supposed to do with
that list of aliases...

so I added the aliases to /etc/aliases and ran newaliases

any mail i send to the test list comes back as "Returned mail: Service
unavailable"

   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
"|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post newtest"
(expanded from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)

sh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs
554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post newtest"... Service unavailable


I'm not quite sure how to interpret this message... 

anyone have any advice for me?

TIA,

J.



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[Mailman-Users] hooray for me.. fixed one problem.. now this:

2001-03-20 Thread Joshua S. Freeman

ok, i started all over again.. fixed the GID problem.. now this:


   - Transcript of session follows -
sh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs
554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post atrium"... Service unavailable

any pointers on this one?

J.



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[Mailman-Users] sh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs

2001-03-20 Thread Joshua S. Freeman

I'm looking through the faq and the archives of this list for a fix for
this.. so far no go.. i've already  run securelinux_fix.py to no avail..

what am I missing... PLEASE HELP!

J.



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[Mailman-Users] ok, found the note in INSTALL about smrsh/sendmail

2001-03-20 Thread Joshua S. Freeman

is this the correct thing to do?

cd /etc/smrsh

ln -s /home/mailman/mail/wrapper ./

?

someone please tell me if that is correct or not...

Thanks,

J.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] hooray for me.. fixed one problem.. now this:

2001-03-20 Thread Joshua S. Freeman

Thank you Scott...

I really do appreciate it... it would be great if this much information
existed at that point in the INSTALL file...

Thanks again..


J.


On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Scott
Russell wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 11:04:07PM -0500, Joshua S. Freeman wrote:
> > ok, i started all over again.. fixed the GID problem.. now this:
> > 
> > 
> >- Transcript of session follows -
> > sh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs
> > 554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post atrium"... Service unavailable
> > 
> > any pointers on this one?
> > 
> > J.
> > 
> 
> Try "ln -s /home/mailman/mail/wrapper /etc/smrsh/wrapper"
> 
> Thanks for saying Please. 
> 
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[Mailman-Users] THANK YOU DAN MICK and SCOTT RUSSELL

2001-03-20 Thread Joshua S. Freeman

Thank you for helping me get over the last hurdle in getting mailman up
and running...  

I sincerely appreciated it...

best wishes,

J.


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