Re: [Mailman-Users] footer format
Mark, there is another thing that I need to mention. This footer used to work fine with 2.1.15 (i.e., it was fine with the digital signature email) but it seems to have a problem with 2.1.23. Maybe I did anything stupid? :-( Regards, -- - DongInn > On Dec 13, 2016, at 4:31 PM, Kim, DongInn wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > Thank you very much for looking into my problem. > > I do not know what is going on with the digital signature part but I am > wondering if you can take a look at the full raw source of the message and > see if there is any clues to debug this issue? This message was sent with my > S/MIME signature. > http://www.crest.iu.edu/~dikim/mailman_footer.txt > <http://www.crest.iu.edu/~dikim/mailman_footer.txt> > > The raw source has the correct format of plain text footer but it is ignored > and another footer seems to be displayed with the html format. > Why does it have two footer contents? > > Regards, > > -- > - DongInn > > > >> On Dec 13, 2016, at 1:03 AM, Mark Sapiro > <mailto:m...@msapiro.net>> wrote: >> >> On 12/12/2016 02:49 PM, Kim, DongInn wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Is there a way to keep the footer format (or layout)? In the most emails, >>> the footer format is fine but when a user uses digital signature (pgp or >>> S/MIME), it surely breaks the format. >>> It seems that it is possible that the format is broken regardless of the >>> signature issue but I can not track down this case. >>> >>> For example, the broken format looks like this: >>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/hwukqz2iuqa18cg/Screenshot%202016-12-12%2017.47.16.png?dl=0 >>> >>> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/hwukqz2iuqa18cg/Screenshot%202016-12-12%2017.47.16.png?dl=0> >>> >>> The right format looks like this: >>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/7tqfdxvjb6hxqbg/Screenshot%202016-12-12%2017.48.09.png?dl=0 >>> >>> Maybe, can we use tag around the footer for the html format of email? >> >> >> Standard Mailman never puts the footer in an HTML message part. If the >> message is a single part text/plain message, the footer is appended to >> the text/plain message. Otherwise it is added as a separate text/plain part. >> >> It could be in your case that unsigned messages are single part >> text/plain messages and signatures make the message multipart/signed, >> but even so, the formatting of the footer should not be changed. >> >> The article at <https://wiki.list.org/x/4030707 >> <https://wiki.list.org/x/4030707>> has more on this. It >> also has some material about non-standard (and not recommended) patches. >> Is your Mailman patched in any way to deal with footers and to put them >> in HTML parts? >> >> -- >> Mark Sapiro mailto:m...@msapiro.net>>The highway >> is for gamblers, >> San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan >> >> -- >> Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org >> <mailto:Mailman-Users@python.org> >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >> <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users> >> Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 >> Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 >> Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ >> Unsubscribe: >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/dikim%40indiana.edu > -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] footer format
Hi Mark, Thank you very much for looking into my problem. I do not know what is going on with the digital signature part but I am wondering if you can take a look at the full raw source of the message and see if there is any clues to debug this issue? This message was sent with my S/MIME signature. http://www.crest.iu.edu/~dikim/mailman_footer.txt <http://www.crest.iu.edu/~dikim/mailman_footer.txt> The raw source has the correct format of plain text footer but it is ignored and another footer seems to be displayed with the html format. Why does it have two footer contents? Regards, -- - DongInn > On Dec 13, 2016, at 1:03 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > On 12/12/2016 02:49 PM, Kim, DongInn wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Is there a way to keep the footer format (or layout)? In the most emails, >> the footer format is fine but when a user uses digital signature (pgp or >> S/MIME), it surely breaks the format. >> It seems that it is possible that the format is broken regardless of the >> signature issue but I can not track down this case. >> >> For example, the broken format looks like this: >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/hwukqz2iuqa18cg/Screenshot%202016-12-12%2017.47.16.png?dl=0 >> >> The right format looks like this: >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/7tqfdxvjb6hxqbg/Screenshot%202016-12-12%2017.48.09.png?dl=0 >> >> Maybe, can we use tag around the footer for the html format of email? > > > Standard Mailman never puts the footer in an HTML message part. If the > message is a single part text/plain message, the footer is appended to > the text/plain message. Otherwise it is added as a separate text/plain part. > > It could be in your case that unsigned messages are single part > text/plain messages and signatures make the message multipart/signed, > but even so, the formatting of the footer should not be changed. > > The article at <https://wiki.list.org/x/4030707> has more on this. It > also has some material about non-standard (and not recommended) patches. > Is your Mailman patched in any way to deal with footers and to put them > in HTML parts? > > -- > Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/dikim%40indiana.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] footer format
Hi, Is there a way to keep the footer format (or layout)? In the most emails, the footer format is fine but when a user uses digital signature (pgp or S/MIME), it surely breaks the format. It seems that it is possible that the format is broken regardless of the signature issue but I can not track down this case. For example, the broken format looks like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/hwukqz2iuqa18cg/Screenshot%202016-12-12%2017.47.16.png?dl=0 The right format looks like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7tqfdxvjb6hxqbg/Screenshot%202016-12-12%2017.48.09.png?dl=0 Maybe, can we use tag around the footer for the html format of email? Regards, -- - DongInn signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Smart quotes are not properly encoded in mbox
Hi Mark, Thank you very much for detailed answers. Yes, I just checked the raw source of that message and it has the same encoded part. Thank you. The problem is that our mail archiver (hypermail) does not know how to deal with the encoded part. Do you have any good ideas to display the encoded part to html format? Regards, -- - DongInn > On Dec 11, 2016, at 11:55 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > On 12/11/2016 08:50 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> On 12/11/2016 07:03 AM, Kim, DongInn wrote: >>> >>> Is there a way to display/keep smart quotes (for example ‘Apple’ and >>> “Banana”) properly in mailing list’s mbox? >>> It seems that the smart quotes at the example above are saved with uni-hex >>> code. >>>> =E2=80=98Apple=E2=80=99 >>>> =E2=80=9CBanana=E2=80=9D >> >> >> No. > > > Actually, I was focusing on the "keep" aspect. You can display them > "properly" by just viewing the mbox with a mail reader (mutt for > example) that understands the encoding. > > -- > Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/dikim%40indiana.edu signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Smart quotes are not properly encoded in mbox
Hi guys, Is there a way to display/keep smart quotes (for example ‘Apple’ and “Banana”) properly in mailing list’s mbox? It seems that the smart quotes at the example above are saved with uni-hex code. > =E2=80=98Apple=E2=80=99 > =E2=80=9CBanana=E2=80=9D The received email from the mailing list do not have this kind of issue though. The smart quotes feature can be disabled with the following instruction on Mac but I do not think that it is a good idea to have all the Mac subscribers disable smart quotes only for mailman. http://www.iclarified.com/38772/how-to-disable-curly-quotes-in-mac-os-x-mavericks Regards, -- - DongInn signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] master list to allow users to subscribe all the other lists without admin approval
Hi, Is there a way to setup a master list to allow any users in the master list to subscribe all the other lists in the same domain without admin approval? Note that the master list is a real list but it does not have to have any discussions through this list just like normal mailing list. Maybe, it would be like an announce mailing list. The reason that we want to do this is because we have a lot of lists in the same domain and the list administrators are annoyed with lots of redundant approval of user subscriptions. So if this master list works, the list administrators do not have to approve all the other lists but only master list. Is it possible? Regards, -- - DongInn signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
