[Mailman-Users] mailman not sending [remote host address is thelocal host]

2003-08-14 Thread Kirk R. Wythers
I am trying to set up mailman on through a virtual domain. I have the
everything working except that no mail is going out. I set masquerading
with: 

MASQUERADE_AS(`neighborsunited.org')dnl
FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl

in sendmail. 

I have looked through the faq and all of the obvious stuff is working
(alaises, qrunner, etc...) I am getting a repeated error message in
/var/log/exim/mainlog that reads:

2003-08-06 10:48:31 H=localhost.forestry.umn.edu
(lorax.forestry.umn.edu) [::1] sender verify defer for
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: remote host address is the local
host

Does anyone recognize this error

Thanks

Kirk



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Re: [Mailman-Users] changed domains, need to change list url

2003-08-14 Thread Kirk R. Wythers
On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 16:40, Richard Barrett wrote:
 See the FAQ entry:
 
 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.029.htp
 
 Run fix_url after you have changed mm_cfg.py and do not foget to 
 mailmanctl restart.

I'm restarting mailmanctl and I it keeps setting the url to the uname of
the machine. Here is the output form fix_url

lorax[/usr/local/mailman/bin]$ ./withlist -l -r fix_url neighborsunited
-v
Importing fix_url...
Running fix_url.fix_url()...
Loading list neighborsunited (locked)
Setting web_page_url to: http://lorax.forestry.umn.edu/mailman/
Setting host_name to: lorax.forestry.umn.edu
Saving list
Finalizing
lorax[/usr/local/mailman/bin]$

Here is my mm_cfg (do I have to add the virtual host line?):

###
# Here's where we get the distributed defaults.

from Defaults import *

##
# Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line.

DEFAULT_HOST_NAME = 'neighborsunited.net'
DEFAULT_URL   = 'http://www.neighborsunited.net'
MAILMAN_OWNER = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' % DEFAULT_HOST_NAME


 
 On Tuesday, August 5, 2003, at 05:15  pm, Kirk R. Wythers wrote:
 

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[Mailman-Users] no mail... looks like an exim config problem

2003-08-14 Thread Kirk R. Wythers
I need to configure exim for a virtual domain. The uname of my machine
in lorax.forestry.umn.edu, the virtual domain that I want to run mailman
to/from is neighborsunited.net. 

Here is the exim log error:
2003-08-06 12:14:53 remote host address is the local host:
neighborsunited.net (while verifying
[EMAIL PROTECTED] from
host localhost.forestry.umn.edu (lorax.forestry.umn.edu) [::1])

If I add the domain neighborsunited.net as the primary hostname, will
that take care of it? 

# primary_hostname = 
primary_hostname = neighborsunited.net

or do I also need something here? 

domainlist local_domains = @
domainlist relay_to_domains =
hostlist   relay_from_hosts = localhost

Lastly, how does one HUP exim?

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[Mailman-Users] very weird behavior

2003-08-14 Thread Kirk R. Wythers
So here is the deal (with a fresh outlook and a good night sleep). I am
convinced that I did get everything working yesterday. I took some
futzing around with the exim config file, sendmail.cf and apache. The
reason that I thought things were working was that I created a new list
'testlist' and it worked fine (i.e. allowed me to subscribe, sent me
notice that I had subscribed, let me post, sent the post, etc...)

But when I tried to use the old (imported) list, I got the error about:

Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group mailnull, or
re-run configure,  providing the
command line option `--with-mail-gid=mail'.

So I tied re-configuring mailman with gid=mail, that got me the error
message 

Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group mail, or
re-run configure,  providing the
command line option `--with-mail-gid=mailnull'.

This is clearly a loop...

So this morning I go back to the 'testlist' and start poking around. It
seems that everything works fine unless I turn on moderation, or aproval
in the required for subscription field (anything that requires a
message to be sent to the moderator/admin), then I'm back to the error:

Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group mailnull, or
re-run configure,  providing the
command line option `--with-mail-gid=mail'.

Any idea what is going on here?

Kirk 



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Re: [Mailman-Users] error log reports miss spelled listname?

2003-08-09 Thread Kirk R. Wythers
On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 09:25, Richard Barrett wrote:

 Does the moved list have a directory called $prefix/list/listname and 
 if it is set for archiving a directory called 
 $prefix/archives/private/listname and 
yes
 $prefix/archives/private/listname.mbox?
yes
 
 How/what exactly did you move when you moved this old list to the new 
 MM 2.1.2 installation?
I untarred the achive, moved it all to $prefix/ and then ran ./fix_url
 
 Does this old list show up on the /mailman/listinfo and /mailman/admin 
 URI response pages?
yes
 
 Did you run prefix/bin/check_perms -f after manually moving this old 
 list into the new MM installation area?
yes... no errors
 
 Have you tried running fix_url against this moved list?
yes... did that when I moved the list in oreder to get the list pointing
to the right url

 
 
  The only other odd thing is when I querry 'owner' like this:
 
  /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner
 
 
 I do not know what you are trying to achieve by running this command 
 and what you mean by querying 'owner'.
 
 What you are in fact doing is running the Mailman mail delivery program 
 wrapper which is intended to be called by the MTA to deliver messages 
 to Mailman. This wrapper checks the egid it is called with is that 
 specified by the --with-mail-gid value from the ./configure during 
 installation. As this condition is not being satisfied when you are 
 running it from the command line you get an error reported to that 
 effect.

If the gid wheel is a problem, then why do newly created lists work
fine? 

I tied changing the group with:

chgrp -v -R -L mailnull /usr/sbin/sendmail

then restarting sendmail and mailman. But it has no effect. What else
does the message 'try tweaking your mailserver to run the group mailnull
mean I should try... obviously I don't know what is meant by the term
'tweaking'


 
  I get this error:
 
  Group mismatch error.  Mailman expected the mail
  wrapper script to be executed as group mailnull, but
  the system's mail server executed the mail script as
  group wheel.  Try tweaking the mail server to run the
  script as group mailnull, or re-run configure,
  providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=wheel'.
 
  It just doesn't make sense that there would be a real gid error if the
  testlist does all the right stuff (ie subscribes sends mail, accepts 
  mail
  etc...)
 
  Ideas?
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[Mailman-Users] changed domains, need to change list url

2003-08-06 Thread Kirk R. Wythers
I need to change the url on a list (we have switched domains and I want
the list web pages to reflect that change). I have tried the fix_url.py
script, but it just wants to set the list url to the name of the
local_host (probably getting it from uname or something). I have changed
'ServerName' in httpd.conf to the new domain name, also changed
DEFAULT_HOST_NAME in mm_cfg.py. 

What else needs to be done so that fix_url can change the list url?

Thanks,

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[Mailman-Users] ip_addresse rather than hostname in forms?

2003-07-31 Thread Kirk R. Wythers
How can I configure a list to use an ip address in its listname instead
of the hostname? For example I'd like all references to the list to be
based on the machines ip address (i.e on the listinfo page To post a
message to all the list menebers, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED],
rather than [EMAIL PROTECTED], or when monthly reminders go out to
use [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well.

Is this possible?

Thanks,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] ip_addresse rather than hostname in forms?

2003-07-31 Thread Kirk R. Wythers
What would happen if I simply changed the 

Host name this list prefers for email. 
(Details for host_name)

line, on the administrative interface page?


On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 14:11, Richard Barrett wrote:

 SMTP mail addressing is done in terms of domains, that is the FQDN of 
 mail hosts. For instance MX records are usually specified in respect of 
 FQDNs with nary a IP number in sight. This, for instance, this allows 
 mail hosts on private IP numbers to function  so long as some publicly 
 IP numbered mail relay with access to that internal network will relay 
 mail for the privately IP numbered mail host. Most MTAs check the 
 acceptability of domains in mail addresses by doing DNS lookup.
 
 I do not think using IP numbers instead of FQDNs is going to work but I 
 am open to being corrected.
 
 What problem are you trying to solve with your proposal?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Kirk
 
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[Mailman-Users] moving a list to new server

2003-07-30 Thread Kirk R. Wythers
I am trying to move a list (archives intact) to a new server. Trouble is
that when I call up the listinfo page, the old server name is still
intact. But, setting up a new testlist on the new server shows the
correct servers name in listinfo/testlist. I tried a grep for the two
server names and got:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:148 grep -r fireweed * | egrep -v 'logs|archives|qfiles'
Mailman/mm_cfg.py:DEFAULT_HOST_NAME = 'fireweed.org'
Binary file Mailman/mm_cfg.pyc matches
Binary file lists/neighborsunited/config.db matches
Binary file lists/neighborsunited/config.db.last matches
Binary file lists/neighborsunited/config.pck matches
Binary file lists/neighborsunited/config.pck.last matches
Binary file lists/mailman/config.pck matches
Binary file lists/mailman/config.pck.last matches
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:149 more Mailman/mm_cfg.py

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:147 grep -r lorax * | egrep -v 'logs|archives|qfiles'
Mailman/Defaults.py:DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lorax.forestry.umn.edu'
Mailman/Defaults.py:DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lorax.forestry.umn.edu'
Binary file Mailman/Defaults.pyc matches
Binary file lists/testlist/config.pck matches
Binary file lists/testlist/config.pck.last matches
locks/master-qrunner:/usr/local/mailman/locks/master-qrunner.lorax.forestry.umn.edu.77379
locks/master-qrunner.lorax.forestry.umn.edu.77379:/usr/local/mailman/locks/master-qrunner.lorax.forestry.umn.edu.77379




fireweed is the old sever name (lorax is the new one), so I went ahead
and changed mm_cfg.py to the new hostname (I must have copied the old
mm_cfg.py file over when I moved the list). 

However, I'm still getting the old server name in /listinfo/oldlist,
therefor I'm figureing that the binary files that are associated with
the oldlist-oldservername need to be regenerated.

Does anyone know how to do this?

Thanks

Kirk



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[Mailman-Users] moving a list from one server to another?

2003-07-30 Thread Kirk R. Wythers
I am trying to move a mailman list from a gentoo linux box to a freebsd
box. I have installed exim, apache13, mailman, and added the user
mailman on the freebsd box. I have moved the old list and placed it in
the proper location for freebsd (/usr/local/mailman/. Here's my
trouble... 

If I open a browser and try to get to the list I can see the listinfo
page for the moved list, but it has all the information concerning the
archive and where to post messages from the old gentoo sever. Obviously
I missed some configuration file somewhere. Any ideas would be
appreciated

Kirk



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[Mailman-Users] membership management

2001-12-11 Thread Kirk R. Wythers

Is there a way for me (the administrator) to change a users email
address. Or do I need to have the user unsubscribe and then resubscribe
with their new address?

Thanks,

Kirk





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[Mailman-Users] virtual domains and mailman

2001-02-26 Thread Kirk R. Wythers

I would like to set up a list on my office machine to be accessible to
the outside world without using my machine's domain name
(bla.bla.bla.umn.edu). Is it possible to:

1. create some kind of virtual domain like whateverdomain.net that the
outside could type into a browser and find my machine at
bla.bla.bla.umn.edu?

2. Configure a mailman list to use that virtual domain in it's list name
instead of http://bla.bla.bla.umn.edu/mailman/listinfo/whateverlistname

Any and all advice on this would be greatly appreciated,

Kirk

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