RE: [Mailman-Users] install instructions

2004-01-12 Thread Mike Kercher
Why not read the instructions included in the downloaded archive?

Mike
 

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> Where can I find install instructions on the web for latest 
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Variations of email addresses

2003-09-18 Thread Mike Kercher


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Wilts
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 6:19 PM
To: Mike Kercher
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Variations of email addresses


On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 03:58:59PM -0500, Mike Kercher wrote:
> Actually, it makes perfect sense.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an alias.  
> SuSE OpenExchange creates such aliases by default for users.  The 
> simple way around this (for the admin) is to explicitly allow 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] to post to the list.  This way, you don't open the 
> whole list up to spammers.  You could also unsub some.user@ and then 
> subscribe sname@  Hopefully, it would be a rare occasion that you'd 
> have to do this.

> The proper approach to this is to rewrite the From address on the outbound
address as well as aliasing the inbound.   > If the outbound e-mail is
some.user@, then all will work properly.  Allowing e-mail into the box to be
consistently> different than e-mail out of the box is a misconfiguration
to me.

> There is no way for Mailman to know that the 2 addresses are equivalent
unless somebody goes in there and manually>updates the permissions list.

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> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I disagree on your first point.  I don't see it as being a misconfiguration.
I see it a method of NOT exposing a username.  I have many servers with
email aliases that eventually get routed to me, but I don't have an email
account anywhere named [EMAIL PROTECTED]  That doesn't mean I can't
reply to an email sent to that address...but any reply would not come from
postmaster@

I do agree with your second statement...there is no way for Mailman to know,
which is why I said to make one of the suggested changes above.

Mike



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RE: [Mailman-Users] Variations of email addresses

2003-09-18 Thread Mike Kercher


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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:06 PM
To: Rob Day
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Variations of email addresses


On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 02:22:13PM -0500, Rob Day wrote:
> Hi,
> My organization just made the switch from Majordomo to Mailman. I am 
> most pleased with Mailman to say the least. I am, however, having one 
> problem. A user will subscribe to the list with the address 
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]," but their address will actually be 
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Mail sent to the expanded address (some.name) 
> will be received, but the person will be unable to post to the list 
> because the message comes from "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Does that make 
> sense?

No, this doesn't make sense.  How are the users subscribing to the list? Via
e-mail or web?  It sounds to me like the user's MUA is misconfigured
- either your e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] or it's
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  You can't have it both ways - mailman should
correctly treat those as separate people since there is absolutely no way
for it to know the difference.  

If you're subscribed with some.name, then post from some.name.  If you want
to allow posting from other e-mail addresses, then configure mailman so that
non-list members are allowed to post.  If you restrict posting to list
members, then the client must be configured to post from some.name.

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Actually, it makes perfect sense.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an alias.  SuSE
OpenExchange creates such aliases by default for users.  The simple way
around this (for the admin) is to explicitly allow [EMAIL PROTECTED] to post
to the list.  This way, you don't open the whole list up to spammers.  You
could also unsub some.user@ and then subscribe sname@  Hopefully, it would
be a rare occasion that you'd have to do this.

Mike


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RE: [Mailman-Users] Footer ?

2003-08-27 Thread Mike Kercher
Don't send html email to the list.  That's most likely why the footer is
being appended as an attachment.  Try it with a plain text message and see
what happens.

Mike


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Subject: [Mailman-Users] Footer ?


  
Hello friends,
 
My "Footers" are being sent to our mailing list participants as
"Attachments" rather than being inserted into the message text.
 
Please advise what I setup incorrectly and what I must change to have the
"footer" placed at the bottom of the e-mail message text.
 
Thank you for your assistance.
 
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman / Sendmail horribly slowperformance..suggestions please?!?

2003-08-24 Thread Mike Kercher
This could be caused by a DNS bottleneck.  I would recommend you setup a
caching-only nameserver on your Mailman box and see if that helps.  Remember
to modify /etc/resolv.conf to add a line at the top:

nameserver 127.0.0.1

Mike


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Subject: [Mailman-Users] Mailman / Sendmail horribly slow
performance..suggestions please?!?


I'm currently running mailman-2.0.13-1 eith sendmail-8.11.6-25.72.  Posts 
are processed very fast, but delivery is more than slow.  It takes 1-2 
minutes per post to delivery mail.  Evaluating what is going on in the 
queue is a little more than cumbersome.  Over the course of 3-4 days mails 
have been piling up in the qfiles directory to the tune of 4000 mails and 
waiting.  There are mails 3 days old waiting to go out.  I'm looking for 
ways to evaluate what is in the queue, why it's in the queue, and how to 
tell qrunner to report more information on what it's thinking.  Like 
perhaps the msgid of the email it's trying to process at this time.

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email

2003-07-15 Thread Mike Kercher
I don't see where he claimed that at all.


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> On Behalf Of Cody Harris
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 6:12 PM
> To: Mailman
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
> 
> 
> Think what you like, but you can't say taht more and more 
> people want HTML e-mails.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Richard Barrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Cody Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Mailman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 8:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
> 
> 
> >
> > On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 11:35 PM, Cody Harris wrote:
> >
> > > If it was suddenly unprofessional to not use HTML and use 
> XML, would 
> > > you follow?
> >
> > The use of XML and HTML are not equivalent.
> >
> > Using XML to semantically markup data for transmission via email is 
> > justified where it is used to remove ambiguity in the data; 
> I contrast 
> > this with the XML markup generated with similar objectives to HTML 
> > markup by some popular PC applications in particular.
> >
> > IMNSHO filling people's mail boxes, burning their bandwidth 
> and spam 
> > and junk  mail filter performance with mail tarted up using HTML is 
> > not justified.
> >
> > HMTL email is for the most part, like much HTML markup on 
> web pages, a 
> > triumph of form over content.
> >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Customer & Technical Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Cody Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mailman" 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jason Buscema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:31 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
> > >
> > >
> > >>  HTML in email sucks.  If I want to see a damn web page 
> > >> I'll go to the URL.  Most people use HTML to dress up spam or 
> > >> otherwise hide the fact
> > >> that they had nothing worthwhile to say anyway.  I 
> filter ALL HTML
> > >> out of
> > >> any mail I get.  Its extremely unprofessional to use.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> At 07:17 PM 7/15/2003 -0300, Cody Harris wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> HTML allows the e-mails to be well layed out. Things to 
> be bolded 
> > >>> to ppl don't have to hunt for them. Wait a minute, i'm 
> not sending 
> > >>> to the
> > > mailman
> > >>> list! I'm sending to you. Oops ^_^. Anyways. I'' just add it to 
> > >>> CC.
> > >>>
> > >>> - Original Message -
> > >>> From: "Jason Buscema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>> To: "Cody Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:14 PM
> > >>> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >  For me, I'm anti HTML emails for our clients because 
> of the extra
> > > traffic
> >  that it incurs.
> > 
> >  On 7/15/03 3:12 PM, "Cody Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Why is that people are anti HTML? How about if sites 
> went anti 
> > > html?
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Jason Buscema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:08 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
> > >
> > >
> > >> Ha... I'm in the same boat really... I discouraged 
> the client 
> > >> from
> > >>> sending
> > >> HTML emails, but they insisted. The email recipients actually
> > > prefer
> > >>> the
> > >> HTML vs plain text now, to my surprise. We use 
> Mailman to send 
> > >> the
> > >>> daily
> > >> emails, but we do not use Mailman for list 
> management (at least 
> > >> for
> > >>> this
> > >> list). The management is handled through the web site itself
> > > (skyy.com)
> > >> using MySql. A user creates an account, then from there they 
> > >> can
> > >>> subscribe
> > >> to a list. We want the daily messages to have a link with a 
> > >> unique
> > > ID
> > >>> in
> > > it
> > >> for a quick unsubscribe. I had the method all worked 
> out, then 
> > >> we
> > > went
> > >>> w/
> > >> HTML emails :(
> > >>
> > >>> don't send HTML :-)
> > >>>
> > >>> Seriously, though, I asked the same thing, and 
> Barry basically
> > > vetoed
> > > it.
> > >>>
> > >>> if you find a way (even with a local patch), I'm all eyes.
> > >>>
> > >>> I have a $CLIENT that would love it.
> > >>>
> > >>> LER
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
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> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
> > >> Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
> > >> Searchable Archives:
> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
> > >>
> > >> This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Unsubscribe or 
> > >> change your options

RE: [Mailman-Users] email address in footer

2003-07-10 Thread Mike Kercher
Put this in your ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py:

VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS = 1
VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = 1
VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1
VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = 1
OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = 1

Then you'll find additional settings within the web interface.

Mike

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Subject: [Mailman-Users] email address in footer


I need to put the recipient's email address into the footer of my email.
Like: This message was sent to:[email]
or To unsubscribe : [email]
Can anyone tell me how this is done?
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RE: [Mailman-Users] (no subject)

2003-06-25 Thread Mike Kercher
Try http://192.168.0.102/mailman/listinfo/test
Or http://192.168.0.102/mailman/admin/test 

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Stephen Smith
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:15 PM
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Subject: [Mailman-Users] (no subject)


Hello I have a problem or question I suppose.  I setup my mailman using an
RPM.  It appeared to install with no issues.  The mailman.conf file is
correct and has been correctly configured to be called by httpd.conf.

The problem is that if I try to connect using
http://192.168.0.102/mailman/listinfo  I keep getting Forbidden errors.
Nothing with mailman will work.  Am I missing something or is there
something else I need to do.  Apparently it recognizes the pages or I would
get page not found errors instead.

Please give me the proper direction to head to fix this problem.

I did create a test list prior to trying to connect.  And I also tried
http://192.168.0.102/mailman/test/listinfo just to be sure and it also
produced Forbidden access error pages.

Please help.

Thanks,
Steve Smith

BTW - if you want to check it out from outside - use
http://ke4mdx.com/whatever

Maybe I just don't know now to use mailman as the site owner.


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RE: [Mailman-Users] qmail and mailman

2003-06-23 Thread Mike Kercher
What MTA do you have running on the server where Mailman is installed?
Sendmail?  Postfix? Exim?


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Subject: [Mailman-Users] qmail and mailman



I would like to know how mailman is supposed to work with qmail located on
another server.  My server doesn't have qmail installed on it.  I know I am
a newbie to this.  I was hoping that someone can help me with this problem.
I have the contrib directory installed with the program using version 2.1.2

Rod



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RE: [Mailman-Users] error

2003-06-22 Thread Mike Kercher
Qmail is out of my element.  Sorry I can't help you further.

Mike


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Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 4:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Mailman-Users] error


I copied them over to the aliases file and ran newaliases

but I still get 

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mail.ezprovider.net.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. vpopmail (#5.1.1)

Rod


At 16:19 22/06/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Looks like the aliases that are printed to you when you create a list 
>have not been copied into your aliases file.
>
>Mike
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
>Of Webmaster - CyberTwinks
>Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 4:11 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] error
>
>
>Just did that, god I feel so stupid
>
>now when a send a message to the list I get back this
>
>Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mail.ezprovider.net.
>I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following 
>addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't 
>work out.
>
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. vpopmail (#5.1.1)
>
>--- Below this line is a copy of the message.
>
>is there something else I can do
>
>At 16:05 22/06/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>>Did you 'make install' after you reconfigured?
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>>Of Webmaster - CyberTwinks
>>Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 3:52 PM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: [Mailman-Users] error
>>
>>
>>Hi Richard,
>>
>>Examining the error of my ways, I changed added the following to the
>>mm_cfg.py file:
>>
>>SMTPHOST = 'media.(myhost).net
>>SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 10
>>
>>I got the email when I created a new list, when I clicked on the link
>>to go to my page I got this error
>>
>>Mailman CGI error!!!
>>The expected gid of the Mailman CGI wrapper did not match the gid as
>>set by the Web server. The most likely cause is that Mailman was 
>>configured and installed incorrectly. Please read the INSTALL 
>>instructions again, paying close attention to the --with-cgi-gid 
>>configure option. This entry is being stored in your syslog:
>>
>>Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 99, GOT gid 80.  (Reconfigure to
>>take
>>80?)
>>
>>I tried to reconfigure, but I don't think I am typing the command 
>>right
>>
>>this is my server:
>>
>>Port 80
>>User http
>>Group http
>>
>>this is what I am putting in
>>
>>./configure --with-cgi-gid=80
>>
>>Rod
>>
>>At 18:29 22/06/2003 +0100, you wrote:
>>>At 15:08 22/06/2003, Webmaster - CyberTwinks wrote:
 >Have you checked the Mailman logs (? in $prefix/logs/)
in the smtp-failure my e-mail address is listed as ignore
>>>
>>>What did the log entry look like? Post the text of it rather than 
>>>assuming people can guess what it says.
>>>
>>>
 > your web server logs (? in /var/httpd/)
don't show anything from yesterday, they are cycled daily I want it 
that way
>>>
>>>I cycle logs but keep a week of backlog for precisely this sort of
>>>occassion. In any event what does today's log say when you try to 
>>>access the Mailman URIs and which URIs are you trying?
>>>
>>>
 >mail server logs (? /var/log/maillog)
there was nothing in these logs to indicate a problem
>>>
>>>Are you running
>>>
>>>1. MM 2.1.x and if so have you run mailmanctl
>>>
>>>2. MM 2.0.x and if so have you installed the mailman user crontab
>>>
>>>
 >Give all that a whirl and then repost with a bit more detail, 
 >without
>>which
 >helping you is quite difficult.
 >
>>>
>>>Which bit of "a bit more detail" is causing the problem. Please 
>>>reread my previous post and see if you can respond more fully. 
>>>Without information there is not much anyone can do to help you.
>>>
>>>I previously said:
>>>
>>>At 12:42 22/06/2003, Richard Barrett wrote:
At 02:09 22/06/2003, Webmaster - CyberTwinks wrote:

>Hi
>
>Just installed the Mailman script on my server, I am getting a 404 
>when I go to the Mailing list page,  I don't get any email when I 
>create a new list, and I add to the aliases file, but it is not 
>recognised.  Can anyone help here

How did you install what version of Mailman running with what 
version of Python under what operating system?

Have you followed all the instruction in the INSTALL text file in 
the
Mailman build directory and have you taken a look at:

 Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
>>>
>>>You can also add to the list of questions:
>>>
>>>1. what did you add to your Apache httpd.conf
>>>
>>>2. what URI returned the 404 response
>>>
>>>As you initially posted to mailman-users, it 

RE: [Mailman-Users] error

2003-06-22 Thread Mike Kercher
Looks like the aliases that are printed to you when you create a list have
not been copied into your aliases file.

Mike


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Webmaster - CyberTwinks
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 4:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] error


Just did that, god I feel so stupid

now when a send a message to the list I get back this

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mail.ezprovider.net.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. vpopmail (#5.1.1)

--- Below this line is a copy of the message.

is there something else I can do

At 16:05 22/06/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Did you 'make install' after you reconfigured?
>
>Mike
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
>Of Webmaster - CyberTwinks
>Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 3:52 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [Mailman-Users] error
>
>
>Hi Richard,
>
>Examining the error of my ways, I changed added the following to the 
>mm_cfg.py file:
>
>SMTPHOST = 'media.(myhost).net
>SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 10
>
>I got the email when I created a new list, when I clicked on the link 
>to go to my page I got this error
>
>Mailman CGI error!!!
>The expected gid of the Mailman CGI wrapper did not match the gid as 
>set by the Web server. The most likely cause is that Mailman was 
>configured and installed incorrectly. Please read the INSTALL 
>instructions again, paying close attention to the --with-cgi-gid 
>configure option. This entry is being stored in your syslog:
>
>Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 99, GOT gid 80.  (Reconfigure to 
>take
>80?)
>
>I tried to reconfigure, but I don't think I am typing the command right
>
>this is my server:
>
>Port 80
>User http
>Group http
>
>this is what I am putting in
>
>./configure --with-cgi-gid=80
>
>Rod
>
>At 18:29 22/06/2003 +0100, you wrote:
>>At 15:08 22/06/2003, Webmaster - CyberTwinks wrote:
>>> >Have you checked the Mailman logs (? in $prefix/logs/)
>>>in the smtp-failure my e-mail address is listed as ignore
>>
>>What did the log entry look like? Post the text of it rather than
>>assuming
>>people can guess what it says.
>>
>>
>>> > your web server logs (? in /var/httpd/)
>>>don't show anything from yesterday, they are cycled daily I want it
>>>that way
>>
>>I cycle logs but keep a week of backlog for precisely this sort of 
>>occassion. In any event what does today's log say when you try to 
>>access the Mailman URIs and which URIs are you trying?
>>
>>
>>> >mail server logs (? /var/log/maillog)
>>>there was nothing in these logs to indicate a problem
>>
>>Are you running
>>
>>1. MM 2.1.x and if so have you run mailmanctl
>>
>>2. MM 2.0.x and if so have you installed the mailman user crontab
>>
>>
>>> >Give all that a whirl and then repost with a bit more detail,
>>> >without
>which
>>> >helping you is quite difficult.
>>> >
>>
>>Which bit of "a bit more detail" is causing the problem. Please reread
>>my
>>previous post and see if you can respond more fully. Without information 
>>there is not much anyone can do to help you.
>>
>>I previously said:
>>
>>At 12:42 22/06/2003, Richard Barrett wrote:
>>>At 02:09 22/06/2003, Webmaster - CyberTwinks wrote:
>>>
Hi

Just installed the Mailman script on my server, I am getting a 404
when I go to the Mailing list page,  I don't get any email when I 
create a new list, and I add to the aliases file, but it is not 
recognised.  Can anyone help here
>>>
>>>How did you install what version of Mailman running with what version
>>>of
>>>Python under what operating system?
>>>
>>>Have you followed all the instruction in the INSTALL text file in the 
>>>Mailman build directory and have you taken a look at:
>>>
>>> Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
>>
>>You can also add to the list of questions:
>>
>>1. what did you add to your Apache httpd.conf
>>
>>2. what URI returned the 404 response
>>
>>As you initially posted to mailman-users, it is both courteous and 
>>advisable to copy the list with your response so that other list 
>>members can contribute to finding a solution to your problem or learn 
>>about any problems you have found and possible solutions to them.
>>
>>> >>Rod
>>
>>--
>>-
>>
>---
>>Richard Barrett
>http://www.openinfo.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
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RE: [Mailman-Users] error

2003-06-22 Thread Mike Kercher
Did you 'make install' after you reconfigured?

Mike


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Webmaster - CyberTwinks
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 3:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Mailman-Users] error


Hi Richard,

Examining the error of my ways, I changed added the following to the
mm_cfg.py file:

SMTPHOST = 'media.(myhost).net
SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 10

I got the email when I created a new list, when I clicked on the link to go
to my page I got this error

Mailman CGI error!!!
The expected gid of the Mailman CGI wrapper did not match the gid as set by
the Web server. The most likely cause is that Mailman was configured and
installed incorrectly. Please read the INSTALL instructions again, paying
close attention to the --with-cgi-gid configure option. This entry is being
stored in your syslog: 

Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 99, GOT gid 80.  (Reconfigure to take
80?)

I tried to reconfigure, but I don't think I am typing the command right

this is my server:

Port 80
User http
Group http

this is what I am putting in

./configure --with-cgi-gid=80

Rod

At 18:29 22/06/2003 +0100, you wrote:
>At 15:08 22/06/2003, Webmaster - CyberTwinks wrote:
>> >Have you checked the Mailman logs (? in $prefix/logs/)
>>in the smtp-failure my e-mail address is listed as ignore
>
>What did the log entry look like? Post the text of it rather than 
>assuming
>people can guess what it says.
>
>
>> > your web server logs (? in /var/httpd/)
>>don't show anything from yesterday, they are cycled daily I want it 
>>that way
>
>I cycle logs but keep a week of backlog for precisely this sort of
>occassion. In any event what does today's log say when you try to access 
>the Mailman URIs and which URIs are you trying?
>
>
>> >mail server logs (? /var/log/maillog)
>>there was nothing in these logs to indicate a problem
>
>Are you running
>
>1. MM 2.1.x and if so have you run mailmanctl
>
>2. MM 2.0.x and if so have you installed the mailman user crontab
>
>
>> >Give all that a whirl and then repost with a bit more detail, 
>> >without
which
>> >helping you is quite difficult.
>> >
>
>Which bit of "a bit more detail" is causing the problem. Please reread 
>my
>previous post and see if you can respond more fully. Without information 
>there is not much anyone can do to help you.
>
>I previously said:
>
>At 12:42 22/06/2003, Richard Barrett wrote:
>>At 02:09 22/06/2003, Webmaster - CyberTwinks wrote:
>>
>>>Hi
>>>
>>>Just installed the Mailman script on my server, I am getting a 404 
>>>when I go to the Mailing list page,  I don't get any email when I 
>>>create a new list, and I add to the aliases file, but it is not 
>>>recognised.  Can anyone help here
>>
>>How did you install what version of Mailman running with what version 
>>of
>>Python under what operating system?
>>
>>Have you followed all the instruction in the INSTALL text file in the
>>Mailman build directory and have you taken a look at:
>>
>> Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
>
>You can also add to the list of questions:
>
>1. what did you add to your Apache httpd.conf
>
>2. what URI returned the 404 response
>
>As you initially posted to mailman-users, it is both courteous and
>advisable to copy the list with your response so that other list members 
>can contribute to finding a solution to your problem or learn about any 
>problems you have found and possible solutions to them.
>
>> >>Rod
>
>---
>
---
>Richard Barrett
http://www.openinfo.co.uk
>
>
>

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RE: [Mailman-Users] just won't work

2003-06-21 Thread Mike Kercher
Need some version information:

MTA
Mailman

Did you add the required lines to your httpd.conf?


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Hi 

Just installed the Mailman script on my server, I am getting a 404 when I go
to the Mailing list page,  I don't get any email when I create a new list,
and I add to the aliases file, but it is not recognised.  Can anyone help
here

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Subscriber List?

2003-05-27 Thread Mike Kercher
~mailman/bin/list_members 


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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Mailman-Users] Subscriber List?
> 
> 
> Is there any way to get a full subscriber list of a given 
> list without having to click on every letter in the alphabet 
> in the admin?
> 
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RE: [Mailman-Users] RE: Diagnosing duplicates [Was:Now MTA tweaking!]

2002-09-23 Thread Mike Kercher

Take a look at your maillog and grep the duplicate email address...see if your end 
actually sent the message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] more
than once.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Angel Gabriel
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 7:09 AM
To: 'Nigel Metheringham'
Cc: Mailman (E-mail)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] RE: Diagnosing duplicates [Was:Now MTA
tweaking!]


Okay, this is a one way list, and I can't get hold of the dups. My email
didn't get any dups, so I can't check either, and I really DON'T want to
replicate it!! I'm going to assume that the problem is my end. If it's
mailman screwing up, how can I go about cleaning my list? And if it's my
MTA, how do I fix that??


-Original Message-
From: Nigel Metheringham
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 12:52 PM
To: Angel Gabriel
Cc: Mailman (E-mail)
Subject: Diagnosing duplicates [Was:Now MTA tweaking!]


Change in subject line - its a different thread...

On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 12:32, Angel Gabriel wrote:
> I decided to send out my list over the
> weekend... I came in today, *monday* and I found that a LOT of email boxes
> had gotten repeat emails, and really pissed off my subscribers. And I
don't
> mean like two or three I mean REPEAT emails, like 12, 13. How can I found
> out what caused this?

The answer is you need to get at least 2 of the duplicates (ideally all
the duplicates that reached a single address), with the full headers -
specifically you need the received lines.

You then compare the received headers on each one and work out where the
paths of the 2 mails diverged.

This could be:-
  - the original poster sent several copies (happens quite often)
in this case you see the received lines are different
at every stage
  - the senders MTA duplicated it
(first - thats the bottom one in the message headers - received
line is exactly the same, the rest are different).
  - mailman duplicated it
(different received lines on the list delivery MTA)
  - the list delivery MTA duplicated it (subtly different)
  - someone's virus scanner reinjected it (they *must* die!!!)
  - someone's vacation mailer reinjected it (they must die and their
whole domain be blocked - actually same applies for the virus
scanner too).

There are other possibilities too... and never underestimate how
determined some idiots can be to loop your mail.

Nigel.
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[Mailman-Users] Problem Upgrading to 2.1b3 - More

2002-09-07 Thread Mike Kercher

Follow-up:

I tried installing Mailman to the default /usr/local/mailman and this is what I got:

Compiling /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py ...
Compiling /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/versions.py ...
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "bin/update", line 44, in ?
import paths
ImportError: No module named paths
make: *** [update] Error 1


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Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 9:55 PM
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Subject: [Mailman-Users] Problem Upgrading to 2.1b3


This is the configure I ran:

./configure --prefix=/home/mailman --with-mail-gid=41 --with-cgi-id=48

No problems there, then I run make install and get the following:

Compiling /home/mailman/Mailman/htmlformat.py ...
Compiling /home/mailman/Mailman/i18n.py ...
Listing /home/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib ...
Compiling /home/mailman/Mailman/versions.py ...
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "bin/update", line 47, in ?
from Mailman import MailList
  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 40, in ?
from email.Utils import getaddresses, formataddr, parseaddr
ImportError: cannot import name formataddr
make: *** [update] Error 1

gcc is 2.96
python is 2.2.1
RH 7.2

Anyone have any idea?  This was an attempt to upgrade from 2.0.13 non-rpm install.

Thanks!


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[Mailman-Users] Problem Upgrading to 2.1b3

2002-09-07 Thread Mike Kercher

This is the configure I ran:

./configure --prefix=/home/mailman --with-mail-gid=41 --with-cgi-id=48

No problems there, then I run make install and get the following:

Compiling /home/mailman/Mailman/htmlformat.py ...
Compiling /home/mailman/Mailman/i18n.py ...
Listing /home/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib ...
Compiling /home/mailman/Mailman/versions.py ...
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "bin/update", line 47, in ?
from Mailman import MailList
  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 40, in ?
from email.Utils import getaddresses, formataddr, parseaddr
ImportError: cannot import name formataddr
make: *** [update] Error 1

gcc is 2.96
python is 2.2.1
RH 7.2

Anyone have any idea?  This was an attempt to upgrade from 2.0.13 non-rpm install.

Thanks!


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RE: [Mailman-Users] /var/log/mailman files

2002-08-27 Thread Mike Kercher

Here's what my /etc/logrotate.d/mailman file looks like:

/var/log/mailman/bounce {
missingok
}
/var/log/mailman/digest {
missingok
}
/var/log/mailman/error {
missingok
}
/var/log/mailman/post {
missingok
}
/var/log/mailman/smtp-failure {
missingok
}
/var/log/mailman/locks {
missingok
}
/var/log/mailman/fromusenet {
missingok
}
/var/log/mailman/subscribe {
missingok
}
/var/log/mailman/vette {
missingok
}



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Charles Sebold
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 7:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] /var/log/mailman files


On 19 Elul 5762, Kenneth Jacker wrote:

> Looking in my /var/log/mailman directory, I see file names such as:
> 
>   error
>   error.1
>   error.1.1
>   error.1.1.1
>   error.1.1.1.1
>   error.1.1.1.1.1

This probably indicates a problem with your logrotate scripts (that's
what bumps logfiles with numbers, and optionally compresses them).  Not
sure where they are in RedHat but in Debian they're in /etc/logrotate* .
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