[Mailman-Users] Mailman CAS Authentication
After much research, I am rather stumped at how to modify the mailman authentication system. I was wondering if anyone could point me towards the right Python files to edit in order to implement an alternate authentication scheme (such as CAS) for mailman administrative login. I know I've seen the University of Washington page do this (see here http://mailman2.u.washington.edu/mailman/admin/aaivmail), but I have not had any such luck. Thanks for any advice I can gain. Nathan Trapp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] new users get welcome e-mails but posts aren'tgoing out
Thank you to Mark and Dan Phillips for pointing me in the direction of the proper FAQ section (as I grin sheepishly). I've looked into those suggestions but don't think they're my problem. If I send an e-mail from my mailman machine (using OS X's Mail program which is using localhost for smtp), the e-mail is sent to the list and goes out to all of the list recipients. If I send out an e-mail from another computer, the e-mail never seems to reach mailman. I started wondering if port 25 was open, so I did a test. I have the old (working) mailman machine available to me so I plugged that in and scanned its ports between 20 and 30. Both ports 22 and 25 were open on the machine. I then plugged the new machine back in and scanned the same ports...this time finding only port 22 open. I found some web pages saying that the issue would be a commented out line within postfix's master.cf file... smtp inet n - n - - smtpd ...but that line is not commented out. This port definitely seems to be the issue (as it's the only difference I can find between the two machines) but I figured I'd see if there was something else I could be missing. Basically right now my mailman machine accepts local mail but nothing else. Nathan K. Stazewski Assistant Director Alumni Relations Swarthmore College Swarthmore, PA 19081 610-957-6103 Fax: 610-328-7796 http://www.swarthmore.edu Mark Sapiro wrote: Nathan K. Stazewski wrote: I just did a fresh install of Mailman 2.1.8 on OS X 10.4 (Tiger). I have it to the point where I can create lists through the web interface and sign people up for the lists. When I subscribe an address to a list (or create a new list) an e-mail is sent and received by the appropriate parties. If I post to the listserv, though, no e-mail ever comes through. I thought I'd improperly setup postfix until I noticed the other e-mails were being properly sent. The mail server is apparently at least partially working, but I can't get a post through at all. I've looked through the smtp and smtp-failure logs, and don't notice any obvious problems. Anyone have any educated guesses as to some places that I should check (I'm not sure if this is a postfix problem or a mailman problem currently). I can definitely provide my current configuration settings if anyone has any ideas, but I'm not even sure what would be helpful right now. See both http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.014.htp and http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.021.htp. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] new users get welcome e-mails but posts aren't going out
I apologize if this is in the archives. I searched for a while and couldn't find this issue. I just did a fresh install of Mailman 2.1.8 on OS X 10.4 (Tiger). I have it to the point where I can create lists through the web interface and sign people up for the lists. When I subscribe an address to a list (or create a new list) an e-mail is sent and received by the appropriate parties. If I post to the listserv, though, no e-mail ever comes through. I thought I'd improperly setup postfix until I noticed the other e-mails were being properly sent. The mail server is apparently at least partially working, but I can't get a post through at all. I've looked through the smtp and smtp-failure logs, and don't notice any obvious problems. Anyone have any educated guesses as to some places that I should check (I'm not sure if this is a postfix problem or a mailman problem currently). I can definitely provide my current configuration settings if anyone has any ideas, but I'm not even sure what would be helpful right now. -- Nate -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Postfix/Cyrus/Mailman-2.1.8: data format error..: Mailbox does not exist
Hi, I have installed Mailman 2.1.8 on a box running postfix and cyrus email working. But, emails to mailman aliases are all bouncing back with data format error..: Mailbox does not exist. For example, even the subscription request bounces back a follows. Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated. Reporting-MTA: dns; nextgenfoundation.org Arrival-Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 10:13:39 -0400 (EDT) Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; data format error. Command output: us-volunteers-request: Mailbox does not exist -- Thanks, Peo -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] follow up: help request: new 1300 member listresults inmostly bounces
Mark, Todd, Brad, John, Thanks very much for your advice. It seems like we're dealing with an uninformed host here, and it would be an uphill battle all the way to get this thing working. While she will probably continuing the webhost, I think we'll look elsewhere for a mailing list option. It's unfortunate that a nice piece of software like mailman can be crippled by poor hosting. Again, I really appreciate all the help. Nathan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] follow up: help request: new 1300 member list results inmostly bounces
After getting some advice from the list - specifically Mark - last week, I asked the hosting provider if there was in fact some limit on outgoing mail, or some other setting on their end which might be causing the bounces I'm getting. (see previous post for details, but basically, I set up a new mailman list with around 1300 subscribers and as best I could tell - without going through ALL of them one by one - most bounced. I did sample 30 addresses, of which 29 bounced). Below is the response from the host. They seem to feel it's all on the recipient's end. Does this make sense? or is it passing the buck? They suggest sending out 10-15 emails at a time - is there a way to set mailman up to do this? (and would there be a point?) Thanks again for your help. Nathan There is really no cap as to how many emails you can send out. However, the more you send out at one time the more likelly they are to bounce. It has nothing to do with Globaltap, it has alot to do with the servers that are recieving the email. There is a marker in the email that marks it as bulk. Most servers including Globaltaps often rejects those emails to protect their/our customers from spam. Comcast and aol also do the same thing. For the most part most mail servers use the same filters and black lists. So the more mail you send out at one time the more likelly that most of them will get rejected by recieving server and bounce. It also creates a possiblity that an entire ip block will get black listed. Which means that ALL your mail will get rejected, but also ALL other of our customers on the same ip block as you will get black listed as well. I'm sure you have a valid subscriber list, but the recieving server has no way of knowing that. For all they know you're just another guy peddling viagra. OK, there are options. 1. You can set up to send out no more then 10-15 emails at a time. 2. There is an organization that can certify your email as not spam. The ceritification is inserted in to the header of your email and then the bulk delivery should get accepted by most other servers, but still not all. And the cerification isn't free. Most hosting services frown on people who send out large bulk emails. It tends to cause problems for other customers and it takes alot of time to clean up the mess plus explain to other customers why they are not able to send mail for upto a week. In those cases you could be held liable for the clean up and loss of revenue. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] help request: new 1300 member list results in mostly bounces
Hello. I'm new to mailman. I've used it to setup an announce-only list for a friend who has over 1300 addresses. Up to this point, she's been simply sending to her entire AOL address book (as this user/account is setup specifically for people who want to receive announcements about her studio). You can imagine the headaches she has sending that way. So I setup a mailman list. Her webhost has mailman included with her account, so I didn't have to install. I sent a few test messages to just her and a couple of my accounts to make sure they were being moderated, and that they went out properly once approved before mass subscribing the other addresses. These messages went out without issue. So, I mass subscribed the other 1300+, and she sent out the first email today. If mailman has a way for the administrator to investigate bounces, I don't know about it, but some time after she'd sent the message out, she and I still had not received it, so I tried to investigate. I logged in and looked up our user info and found that each of us had a bounce score of 1. From my reading and simple math, this means that the 1 message sent out resulted in a hard bounce. To get a sampling of other users, I clicked on G for all emails beginning with g. Of those 30 subscribers, 29 had bounced. Only one subscriber at the domain nyce.net had a bounce score of 0. The other domains: email.com @hotmail.com @hotmail.com @hotmail.com @comcast.net @hotmail.com @eclipse.net @verizon.net @comcast.net @optonline.com @hotmail.com @nc.rr.com @pershing.com @msn.com @ureach.com @yahoo.com @lycos.com @gmail.com @yahoo.com @comcast.net @pabla.net @hotmail.com @usinter.net @pcisvision.com @earthlink.net @gmail.com @msn.com @yahoo.com @aol.com Any advice as to why this is happening? I'm assuming the problem is NOT with mailman itself, but possibly with her webhost (maybe flagged as a spammer by other hosts?). For what it's worth, one other address to which the email did get through was my mac.com address. I noticed in my mac.com web interface that the message showed that it had an attachment, but there was no evidence of that attachment once I clicked through to read the mail. She's sending from AOL, and it does appear that html was included, so maybe the attached file is the html document? I am not her usual web person, so don't have a lot of other info, or a way to take it up directly with the host, however I'm sure I could speak with him and get whatever info is necessary, but at the moment, I don't even know what to ask. Since mailman handles the bounces automatically, I don't even know how to go about figuring out what caused them. Also, is there a way to send out a test message to only a few members of the group? If this were the case, I could try to troubleshoot by sending a message from my account rather than hers, using plain text, etc. Thanks in advance for any help. Nathan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] not sending email to list owner
Mailman has been installed and configured with exim4 on debian. Every thing is working, but when I create a list it is not sending email to list owner(that list has been created). Please some one advice me what I am doing wrong. Thanks Nathan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] lynx html - text question...
I posted previously about this, but was all of the sudden swamped with work so I was not able to keep working on this problem. Our mailman install works fine until it's time to convert a text/html e-mail to plain text. All mailman produces with such e-mails is a blank body with the footer attached. Mark Sapiro was very helpful in pointing me to the following line in either Defaults.py or mm_cfg.py . HTML_TO_PLAIN_TEXT_COMMAND = '/usr/bin/lynx -dump %(filename)s' After looking in both those files, I noticed that Defaults.py had this line, but mm_cfg.py did not. I was about to add the line in the mm_cfg file, but then I decided to check out the /usr/bin/ directory looking for lynx (I'm a windows/dos user so I'm used to file extentions.so lynx is an executable, correct?). At this point I noticed that lynx is nowhere in that directory. A search of the computer (Mac OS X) for anything with lynx in the name only provided an AppleLynx.kext. I'm guessing that the problem stems from the fact that lynx isn't installed on this computer? I checked my error logs and noticed I have the following error. Apr 18 13:27:38 2005 (399) HMTL-text/plain error: 32512 Every other place (on the mailman-users list) that I have seen the HTML-text/plain error it was followed by 256 instead of the 32512 that I am receiving. If I do indeed need to install lynx on a Mac, I have a few questions. I searched on the net and it seems that lynx is some sort of a text-only web browser.so is this what I am to install to get mailman to convert html to text? I found this site. http://www.osxgnu.org/software/Networking/lynx/ Is this what I'll need? If I install it, am I going to have to do anything special to get mailman to now recognize it? Thanks in advance for any help with this. ___ Nate -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] convert text/html problem...
First off.thank you. Someone always replies to these questions (knock on wood).so thanks. I am running mailman 2.1.4 on OS X. We were running into a problem that sometimes the footer was being seen as an attachment instead of as an actual footer. I read these lists and found a nice work around was to convert text/html e-mails to plain text. I did this and now the footer is always visible. Recently a user e-mailed me to let me know that none of his e-mails are getting through to the listserv (prior to my changes his e-mails got through, he is a member of the list, and it wasn't getting held for approval.it was being directly discarded). After a while we realized his e-mails were being discarded because of the Content filtering. Now I set it to forward me the e-mails instead of discarding. My Content filtering options are as follows. --- Should Mailman filter the content of list traffic. Yes Remove message attachments that have a. (left blank) Remove message attachments that don't have a. (currently it is (on separate lines) multipart, text, message. I have had this on the default, tried adding text/html, etc.) Should Mailman convert. Yes Action to take. Forward --- After playing with the Remove message attachments that don't. section I got his e-mails to come through, but now the main body is blank. If he CCs me, I can see the text in the CC, but the version coming through mailman is blank except the footer. If he sends a plaintext e-mail it comes through fine, but shouldn't mailman be converting his html e-mails into plaintext? Any ideas why it's not converting the html properly? I feel like somehow the content filtering is taking out the text/html and then trying to convert.but it doesn't look like it should be. ___ Nate -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] e-mail command problem
I have created a web interface for our listservs. I have it completely working except that when someone subscribes themselves I don't want them to have to assign themselves a password but I do want them to be able to select digest or nodigest. I tried the following e-mail command, but it always sets their password to digest (or nodigest if they pick that option) and doesn't actually set their digest preference. subscribe digest end Is there some way to signify that digest or nodigest is the option and not a password? ___ Nathan K. Stazewski -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Archives, the Forbidden Zone
Let me start with a big Thank You to the Mailman authors for their great work on this fine list management software. I have been using Mailman for over four years and have had very few problems. Recently I installed Fedora Core 3 and I am in the process of setting up the system to once again host several Mailman lists. However, I have run into a problem that I am unable to solve. It is the typical 403 Forbidden problem often seen by newbies when attempting to view the archives of a list. I have searched the mailman-users archives. I have searched Google Groups. I have read the INSTALL.REDHAT and UPGRADING files included in the mailman rpm, as well as several other pertinent files. I have found nothing that can explain why I continue to see the 403 Forbidden error. First off, the lists have been imported from backup, so there is the possibility something went wrong in that. However, check_perms reports no problems. And check_db -a also reports nothing. I also ran the 'update' command successfully. Sending mail to the lists appears to be working, as does the administrative interface. The only problem really is accessing the archives. Now before you tell me that I need to set up the Apache configuration, let me say that the mailman rpm in FC3 includes a .conf file already. I have pasted it in below for your reference. And I suppose you will ask What about the permissions on the files/directories? Ah, I'm one step ahead of you there. See the detailed output below the .conf file. So the question becomes, what is preventing the browser from accessing the archives? nathan P.S. You can see the problem for yourself at http://www.bluemarsh.com/mailman/listinfo # # httpd configuration settings for use with mailman. # ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ Directory /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/ Directory /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/ Options Indexes MultiViews FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory # Uncomment the following line, replacing www.example.com with your server's # name, to redirect queries to /mailman to the listinfo page (recommended). RedirectMatch ^/mailman[/]*$ http://www.bluemarsh.com/mailman/listinfo Apache user can read the files: # echo head /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/jswat- announce/index.html | su -fm apache !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN HTML HEAD titleThe jswat-announce Archives/title META NAME=robots CONTENT=noindex,follow META http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=us- ascii /HEAD BODY BGCOLOR=#ff h1The jswat-announce Archives /h1 p [To double-check, apache cannot read root's files.] # echo head /root/.bashrc | su -fm apache head: cannot open `/root/.bashrc' for reading: Permission denied Directory permissions in detail: # ls -l / drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4096 Nov 16 00:05 var # ls -l /var drwxr-xr-x 23 rootroot 4096 Nov 19 16:09 lib # ls -l /var/lib drwxrwsr-x 6 root mailman 4096 Nov 20 23:00 mailman # ls -l /var/lib/mailman drwxrwsr-x 4 mailman mailman 4096 Jun 16 2003 archives # ls -l /var/lib/mailman/archives drwxrws--x 13 mailman mailman 4096 Nov 20 22:33 private drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 4096 Nov 20 22:33 public # ls -l /var/lib/mailman/archives/private drwxrwsr-x 9 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 17 03:27 jswat-announce drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 4096 Feb 24 2004 jswat-announce.mbox # ls -l /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/jswat-announce drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 4096 Apr 29 2004 2004-April -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 805 Apr 29 2004 2004-April.txt -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 544 Apr 30 2004 2004-April.txt.gz drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 4096 Aug 17 00:05 2004-August -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 699 Aug 17 00:05 2004-August.txt -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 512 Aug 17 03:27 2004-August.txt.gz drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 4096 Feb 27 2004 2004-February -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 1674 Feb 27 2004 2004-February.txt -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 935 Feb 28 2004 2004-February.txt.gz drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 4096 May 9 2004 2004-May -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 435 May 9 2004 2004-May.txt -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 361 May 10 2004 2004-May.txt.gz drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 16 17:28 2004-October -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 810 Oct 16 17:28 2004-October.txt -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 549 Oct 17 03:27 2004-October.txt.gz drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 4096 Sep 22 00:17 2004-September -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 1455
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives, the Forbidden Zone
On Sun, 2004-11-21 at 10:06 +0100, Thomas Hochstein wrote: Nathan Fiedler wrote: Now before you tell me that I need to set up the Apache configuration, let me say that the mailman rpm in FC3 includes a .conf file already. I have pasted it in below for your reference. You did reload/restart Apache, of course? Yep. I restarted the Mailman service a few times, too. I forgot to mention that I also ran withlist fix_url on all of the lists to recreate the symbolic links from the public to private archives. Here is an example: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root mailman 48 Nov 20 15:44 jswat-announce - /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/jswat-announce n -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives, the Forbidden Zone
On Sun, 2004-11-21 at 08:07 -0800, Kenneth Porter wrote:
Anything interesting in /var/log/httpd or /var/log/messages?
The Apache error_log just has the usual permission denied message.
Now /var/log/messages is a different story, and I never thought to look
at that one:
Nov 21 08:18:12 chip kernel: audit(1101053892.157:0): avc: denied
{ read } for pid=25155 exe=/usr/sbin/httpd name=jswat-announce dev=hda6
ino=75928 scontext=root:system_r:httpd_t
tcontext=root:object_r:mailman_data_t tclass=lnk_file
Nov 21 08:18:12 chip kernel: audit(1101053892.157:0): avc: denied
{ getattr } for pid=25155 exe=/usr/sbin/httpd
path=/var/lib/mailman/archives/public/jswat-announce dev=hda6 ino=75928
scontext=root:system_r:httpd_t tcontext=root:object_r:mailman_data_t
tclass=lnk_file
Are there symlinks here to the directories in private? Here's what I see in
my installation on FC2 (where the system is installed to /var/mailman):
Yep, I forgot to mention that I ran withlist fix_url at one point:
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root mailman 48 Nov 20 15:44 jswat-announce -
/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/jswat-announce
So does anyone understand the audit error messages? I suppose that has
something to do with SELinux being enabled on this system, but I know
next to nothing about it.
Thanks
n
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives, the Forbidden Zone
On Sun, 2004-11-21 at 09:29 -0800, Kenneth Porter wrote: That'd be my guess. You could try asking on the Fedora-Users list, or perhaps the selinux list. I know this issue came up involving copying and moving files between the web directories and web space in a user's home directory (eg. ~/public_html), and that there's some kind of context attribute that needs to be assigned to the directories and files. But I don't recall the details. This is probably like learning how to use chmod and chown for Windows users. Good to know, thanks for the info. I'll read about SELinux and try asking the fedora list since someone there ought to know about this. Thanks n -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives, the Forbidden Zone
On Sun, 2004-11-21 at 09:29 -0800, Kenneth Porter wrote: That'd be my guess. You could try asking on the Fedora-Users list, or perhaps the selinux list. I know this issue came up involving copying and moving files between the web directories and web space in a user's home directory (eg. ~/public_html), and that there's some kind of context attribute that needs to be assigned to the directories and files. But I don't recall the details. This is probably like learning how to use chmod and chown for Windows users. It turns out the problem was simple and so was the solution. When importing my existing list data and archives from another machine, I did not know to update the selinux context labels appropriately. Thus, the kernel was unable to determine if the apache user was allowed to access the files. Normally it should be, but without the labels it wouldn't succeed. To correct the labels, I ran both of these commands as root: # fixfiles relabel # restorecon -Rv /var/lib/mailman Their descriptions sound very similiar so I probably only needed one of them. Thanks again nathan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] now can't make new lists...
Hello all. Yes, somehow I have gotten our mailman client working again (no idea how really, but it works again). I just went to create a new alias (which I've done before), and now it's saying Error: You are not authorized to create new mailing lists. I of course went and googled this and found a few questions about it, but no real answers. One person said you can't do it from the web client with this version of mailman (2.1), but I know that to be wrong, as I did it before we moved the computer to this new location. Has anyone else ever seen this? I am afraid that it might be a permissions thing, as a few permissions were changed and changed back while troubleshooting the last problems. Unfortunately it could be that a permission was missed. Thanks in advance. This listserv has been immensely helpful every time I've posted. ___ Nate -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] email bouncing back to sender...(part deux)...
We have mailman running again today...and back to the same old thing...accepting only our campus mail and aol...no one else (for the first time in history aol is working when other stuff isn't). I was wondering how I can tell if the host name has changed. I have no idea what is was, and even if I found the new host name, I wouldn't know where to change it. You mention a config file for mailman...what's the name of the file? Also, messages are NOT being bounced. They are coming in (our IT person sees them going into postfix and being handed to mailman)...and it's there that we lose them. I'm currently looking through logs, but I thought I'd send this much of an update. Thanks for all the help so far. __ Nathan K. Stazewski Assistant Director Alumni Relations Swarthmore College Swarthmore PA 19081 610-957-6103 Fax: 610-328-7796 www.swarthmore.edu -Original Message- From: Richard Barrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 7:30 PM To: Nathan K. Stazewski Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] email bouncing back to sender...(part deux)... On 7 Sep 2004, at 18:30, Nathan K. Stazewski wrote: OK, yesterday I asked about why our mailman client wasn't accepting emails. The problem was that the physical computer had been moved, so it had attained a new IP and port 25 was being blocked at that IP by our firewall. Our IT has since changed the directing, and it seems that everything is directing to the new IP and the port can now be telnetted to, so I figure that must be working. What else needs to be changed though? If the hostname is still the same then you may not need to change the Mailman config file. Right afterward these changes had been made, I was able to send emails from on our campus and they went through. Then I tried to send from AOL.went through.tried from hotmail and another college's server.neither shows up and they're not pending. After sending about 15 test emails.all emails stopped coming through.no matter where I send them from. Is there anything on the Mac that I need to change since the IP is different? What has changed hostname or its IP number? Which of either or both? I was told that I needed an MX record published, and I have never even heard of this. An MX DNS record is not strictly necessary if the machine concerned has a public IP number and an DNS A record is published for it, which it is. I have now been able to telnet to port 25 on alumni-office.swarthmore.edu from outside your domain which was not possible before. I googled it and got the gist of it.but haven't a clue if I still need to do that after other stuff was fixed. I apologize for my ignorance.but this is being run from a Mac and the only person that had anything to do with this listserv no longer works here, so all I know is that it's a Mailman client using postfix. If these message that you are talking about are not being bounced then you need to try and see what is being recorded by the machine's MTA in its log (maybe /var/mail/log) and in the Mailman server's logs (sorry I do not know where they are stored on a MacOS X installation). The MTA log may say whether or not the messages are being received and delivered to Mailman or not. The Mailman logs may give some idea of the disposition of the messages; take a look at the post, smtp, smtp-failure and vette logs. You are looking to see if you can track incoming messages to the MTA-to Mailman-back out via the MTA. You also want to look in the Mailman qfiles/* subdirectories which may show whether files are being trapped in a queue for some reason. If these new messages are being bounced then what does the bounce message say? Maybe someone else here with MacOS X experience can advise on possible problems/causes/things to look for which are Mac'ish. Again.the server in question is alumni-office.swarthmore.edu. Thanks so much in advance. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] email bouncing back to sender...(part deux)...
OK, yesterday I asked about why our mailman client wasn't accepting emails. The problem was that the physical computer had been moved, so it had attained a new IP and port 25 was being blocked at that IP by our firewall. Our IT has since changed the directing, and it seems that everything is directing to the new IP and the port can now be telnetted to, so I figure that must be working. What else needs to be changed though? Right afterward these changes had been made, I was able to send emails from on our campus and they went through. Then I tried to send from AOL.went through.tried from hotmail and another college's server.neither shows up and they're not pending. After sending about 15 test emails.all emails stopped coming through.no matter where I send them from. Is there anything on the Mac that I need to change since the IP is different? I was told that I needed an MX record published, and I have never even heard of this. I googled it and got the gist of it.but haven't a clue if I still need to do that after other stuff was fixed. I apologize for my ignorance.but this is being run from a Mac and the only person that had anything to do with this listserv no longer works here, so all I know is that it's a Mailman client using postfix. Again.the server in question is alumni-office.swarthmore.edu. Thanks so much in advance. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] email bouncing back to sender...
I'm not sure if this is a problem on the listserv side.or if bowdoin edu's. I didn't see anything about this on previous postings, so I thought I'd ask. Basically, whenever this user tries to post to our listserv, it waits 2 days and says it can't deliver. I never see the email to be able to approve it. We don't seem to be having any other problems.just this one user. Thanks in advance. Original Message Subject: Delivery Notification: Delivery has been delayed Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 00:37:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Internet Mail Delivery mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This report relates to a message you sent with the following header fields: Return-path: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mail.bowdoin.edu by mail.bowdoin.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003)) id mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 4 Sep 2004 00:37:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bowdoin.edu (mail [139.140.14.83]) by mail.bowdoin.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003)) with ESMTP id mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 01 Sep 2004 16:37:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [66.92.75.203] by mail.bowdoin.edu (mshttpd); Wed, 01 Sep 2004 16:37:05 -0400 Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 16:37:05 -0400 From: Wendy Cadge mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: that time againclassnotes To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-id: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Your message has been enqueued and undeliverable for 2 days to the following recipients: Recipient address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reason: unable to deliver this message after 2 days Delivery attempt history for your mail: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 19:57:39 -0400 (EDT) TCP active open: Failed connect()Error: Connection timed out Fri, 3 Sep 2004 11:53:55 -0400 (EDT) TCP active open: Failed connect()Error: Connection timed out Fri, 3 Sep 2004 03:50:11 -0400 (EDT) TCP active open: Failed connect()Error: Connection timed out Thu, 2 Sep 2004 19:46:27 -0400 (EDT) TCP active open: Failed connect()Error: Connection timed out Thu, 2 Sep 2004 19:10:48 -0400 (EDT) TCP active open: Failed connect()Error: Connection timed out Thu, 2 Sep 2004 11:07:04 -0400 (EDT) TCP active open: Failed connect()Error: Connection timed out Thu, 2 Sep 2004 07:03:19 -0400 (EDT) TCP active open: Failed connect()Error: Connection timed out Thu, 2 Sep 2004 02:59:34 -0400 (EDT) TCP active open: Failed connect()Error: Connection timed out Wed, 1 Sep 2004 22:55:50 -0400 (EDT) TCP active open: Failed connect()Error: Connection timed out Wed, 1 Sep 2004 20:52:04 -0400 (EDT) TCP active open: Failed connect()Error: Connection timed out Wed, 1 Sep 2004 18:48:20 -0400 (EDT) TCP active open: Failed connect()Error: Connection timed out Wed, 1 Sep 2004 17:44:35 -0400 (EDT) TCP active open: Failed connect()Error: Connection timed out Wed, 1 Sep 2004 16:40:50 -0400 (EDT) TCP active open: Failed connect()Error: Connection timed out The mail system will continue to try to deliver your message for an additional 1 day. ___ Nathan K. Stazewski Assistant Director Alumni Relations Swarthmore College Swarthmore, PA 19081 610-957-6103 Fax: 610-328-7796 file:///C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\NStazew1\Application%20Data\Microsoft \Signatures\www.swarthmore.edu www.swarthmore.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] easy footer question...
First time poster, short time reader. I just inherited a Mailman Listserv for a college, and am pretty clueless to any of the inner workings (it's running on a Mac OS X, and although I was a Computer Science major, I NEVER use Macs). Anywho, the emails it sends out always have a very helpful List-Id:, List-Unsubcribe, List-Archive, etc. in the header section. I can't find anywhere what is causing this to appear in the header, and am VERY interested in having that information placed in the footer (as 99% of my readers don't see the headers automatically in their email programs). Could someone please send an example or generic code for how I would get those header items into the footer. Thanks in advance. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Somebody can help me ?
On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 04:04, Brad Knowles wrote: At 11:48 AM +0200 2004-07-22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IS IT POSSIBLE TO ELIMINATE FROM THE ADMIN MENU THESE VOICES : Non-digest options Digest options Content filtering Edit the public HTML pages Sure. You can modify the source code which creates the web admin interface which the list owners would be using. And to fix (pre define) it in a configuration file on the server ? In a configuration file? No. This is related to the issue of providing extensive customization of outgoing messages, only from the perspective of preventing any kind of customization as opposed to allowing more customization. See also http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.037.htp. I did exactly this when I fist set Mailman up. Look through the options in Defaults.py to tweak it just the way you want it. Nathan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] phantom moderation requests
I'm just reiterating this question. Has anyone else had this issue? I am using mailman-2.1.5. Moderation request emails are occasionally being sent to the administrator/moderator at 8:00am for nonexistent moderation requests. In other words, nothing shows up under Tend to pending moderator requests on the web interface after receiving one of these emails. This has happened on several lists that I have recently set up and haven't used yet (no members). I have searched and cannot find anything in the mailman-users archives for this issue. Does anyone know what causes this or if it might be possible to make these moderation emails cease? Thanks Nathan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] moderation request emails on non-existant requests
I've been running mailman for over six months now without any major problems. It's been great until I recently ran into a minor annoyance.I am wondering if anyone has experienced this issue, knows why it happens, or can help me fix it. Recently, after upgrading from mailman-2.1.3 to mailman-2.1.5 via rpm on Fedora Core 1, I began to notice moderation request emails being sent at 8:00am on varying days for each list. After receiving these emails, I check the Tend to pending moderator requests area of the web interface, however there are no pending requests there. These are always sent at 8:00am (or within a few minutes after). Has anyone else seen this type of activity? I apologize if I'm being too general; I really don't know what other information would be useful. thanks! -- Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Changing HTML templates
Hello, I am running Mailman 2.1.x on OpenBSD 3.5. I wanted to customize the Mailman HTML, in particular the archive login page and the mail archives, to match the rest of my website. Through the admin interface, I found that there were only three pages that I could edit, so I edited the HTML templates directly in /usr/local/lib/mailman/templates/en/. Then I did arch --wipe listname, and the changes to the archive HTML took effect and looked nice. However, I was bewildered that the next time mail was sent to the list, the archive index was rebuilt using the default, original Mailman HTML. Again I did arch --wipe listname, and my changes took effect. Why is it that when mail is sent to the list, it is not using the templates in mailman/templates/en, and where IS it getting the templates from? It doesn't look like the templates are embedded in the list configuration, at least I could not find them there. Seems odd that arch --wipe listname would have different behavior from how Mailman normally rebuilds the archive HTML when it gets mail. -Nathan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Which setting for Overview of all lists
Which setting or variable determines the URL for 'Overview of all xxx.com mailing lists' on the HTML administration pages? Is this a change I can make in one of the configuration files? Thanks. -Nate -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Use a File for accept_these_nonmembers?
Has anyone devised a way to use a text file on disk to control list access similar to Majordomo's restrict_post function? I'm in the process of migrating our listserv over to Mailman and that's the one feature I haven't been able to properly duplicate. I know I could manually dump and reload the accept_these_nonmembers option nightly for the appropriate lists, but I'd prefer a cleaner solution if one's available. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide! Nathan Beittenmiller -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved posters, accept_these_nonmembers
There is a patch I submitted on the sf page that should allow you to specify include the members of this other list as an approved poster. As far as I know, using regex patterns in those fields works fine. -- Nathan On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 14:34, Mark J. Bradakis wrote: While digging around in the FAQ and the archive, it seems there are many references to setting 'accept_these_nonmembers' to a regular expression. Does this actually work, and if so, can anyone provide a working example for Mailman 2.1.1 we are running? I'm assuming that one feature of majordomo, the ability to have approved posting addresses included from a file with a list of addresses or the name of another list, does not have an equivalent in mailman. Is this correct? mjb. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/nneul%40umr.edu -- Nathan Neulinger EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Missouri - Rolla Phone: (573) 341-4841 Computing Services Fax: (573) 341-4216 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] max. message length
They are held for moderation. Nathan Neulinger EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Missouri - Rolla Phone: (573) 341-4841 Computing Services Fax: (573) 341-4216 -Original Message- From: Duke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mailman-Users] max. message length Under the General Options for a list, there's a field Maximum length in kilobytes (KB) of a message body. Use 0 for no limit. What happens if a message fails to meet this restriction? Is it bounced? I'd like to have those messages sent to the Pending Moderator requests so I can approve or reject the message. Is this possible? Thanks, -- Duke. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users% 40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/nneul%40umr.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] mm_cfg.py question
You should be able to find all of the options listed in Defaults.py -- Nathan Nathan Neulinger EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Missouri - Rolla Phone: (573) 341-4841 Computing Services Fax: (573) 341-4216 -Original Message- From: JvdW [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 8:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mailman-Users] mm_cfg.py question Hi all Can someone please give me the string to add to the mm_cfg.py file that would set the value of Should Mailman personalize each non-digest delivery? under the Non-Digest menu to Yes for all new lists? Thanks! -- l8r ./JvdW -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users% 40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/nneul%40umr.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] mm_cfg.py question
Oh... No idea then... Sorry. -- Nathan Nathan Neulinger EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Missouri - Rolla Phone: (573) 341-4841 Computing Services Fax: (573) 341-4216 -Original Message- From: JvdW [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 9:09 AM To: Neulinger, Nathan; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] mm_cfg.py question I have and the only fields I can find are OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION and VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES. I placed this in my mm_cfg.py file and set both to 1. Still it stays on No by default. Even when removing and re-creating the list. Any other ideas. l8r JvdW On Monday 03 March 2003 16:25, Neulinger, Nathan wrote: You should be able to find all of the options listed in Defaults.py -- Nathan Nathan Neulinger EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Missouri - Rolla Phone: (573) 341-4841 Computing Services Fax: (573) 341-4216 -Original Message- From: JvdW [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 8:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mailman-Users] mm_cfg.py question Hi all Can someone please give me the string to add to the mm_cfg.py file that would set the value of Should Mailman personalize each non-digest delivery? under the Non-Digest menu to Yes for all new lists? Thanks! -- l8r ./JvdW -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users% 40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman -users/nneul%40umr.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman -users/r2d2%40yebo.co.za -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] running Mailman2.1 from cron
Didn't know this was possible. I've got a situation where I'm running a number of separate instances of mailman on a machine to do virtual hosting, as the unique listname requirement is a problem in most cases. This sort of one-off would be a simple way of reducing the need to have so many jobs running simultaneously. Just loop through all vhosts and all queues repeatedly. Would be nice to see this more supported for that reason. -- Nathan Nathan Neulinger EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Missouri - Rolla Phone: (573) 341-4841 Computing Services Fax: (573) 341-4216 -Original Message- From: Barry A. Warsaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 3:38 PM To: Matt Brown Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] running Mailman2.1 from cron MB == Matt Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MB Is it possible to run Mailman 2.1 from cron, a la v 2.0.13? Kind of. bin/qrunner -o runs through a queue directory once instead of in a loop. So you could potentially add crontab entries that fire off qrunner -o for each queue directory under qfiles. It's not a supported mode of operation :). -Barry -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users% 40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/nneul%40umr.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] Sub-lists and authorized posting
Done. Added as patch #670522 On Sat, 2003-01-18 at 12:27, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: NN == Nathan Neulinger Neulinger writes: NN I managed to make a patch to do this based on the NN list_exploder patch that is in the sourceforge patches area NN for 2.0. NN I've got a patch against 2.1 if anyone is NN interested. Basically lets you put: NN +list@thisdomain NN in the *_these_nonmembers boxes, and it will expand that to NN the contents of that list when checking for authorization to NN post/etc. Please submit a SF patch for this. It sounds like a useful patch! Maybe it'll make it into MM2.2. -Barry -- Nathan Neulinger EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Missouri - Rolla Phone: (573) 341-4841 Computing Services Fax: (573) 341-4216 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] Sub-lists and authorized posting
I managed to make a patch to do this based on the list_exploder patch that is in the sourceforge patches area for 2.0. I've got a patch against 2.1 if anyone is interested. Basically lets you put: +list@thisdomain in the *_these_nonmembers boxes, and it will expand that to the contents of that list when checking for authorization to post/etc. -- Nathan Nathan Neulinger EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Missouri - Rolla Phone: (573) 341-4841 Computing Services Fax: (573) 341-4216 -Original Message- From: Neulinger, Nathan Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 4:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mailman-Users] Sub-lists and authorized posting Is there any way to grant permission to post to list Y to [anyone on list X]? This is a pretty common option used on listserv lists. I didn't see anything that would directly allow this, but seems like it wouldn't be too hard to have it be an added feature. Has anyone put together a patch to support this or know of some way to do it that doesn't involve duplicating subscriptions or other hackery like that. -- Nathan Nathan Neulinger EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Missouri - Rolla Phone: (573) 341-4841 Computing Services Fax: (573) 341-4216 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users% 40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/nneul%40umr.edu -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Sub-lists and authorized posting
Is there any way to grant permission to post to list Y to [anyone on list X]? This is a pretty common option used on listserv lists. I didn't see anything that would directly allow this, but seems like it wouldn't be too hard to have it be an added feature. Has anyone put together a patch to support this or know of some way to do it that doesn't involve duplicating subscriptions or other hackery like that. -- Nathan Nathan Neulinger EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Missouri - Rolla Phone: (573) 341-4841 Computing Services Fax: (573) 341-4216 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Blocking Unsubscribe?
Greetings all! I am currently looking into replacing Majordomo with Mailman for our enterprise mailing list solutions. So far, I can duplicate everything I've customized on Majordomo with default settings in Mailman except the ability to block unsubscribing from a list. We have a number of required campus mailing lists that our users must remain subscribed to at all times. Majordomo allows us to restrict unsubscribing to moderator-approved, but I can't seem to find something similar in Mailman. While this isn't critical (or really a show-stopper), I wanted to see if I'm just missing something. Thanks in advance and sorry if this is a duplicate post; the search feature was down when I checked yesterday. Nathan Beittenmiller Systems Administrator -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] Blocking Unsubscribe?
About five minutes after I sent this, I came up with a solution that somewhat works. If I add users at the command line nightly (which is how I build the lists with Majordomo), they need a password to unsubscribe or change their settings. For most users, that would be a deterrent right there. Unfortunately, the determined ones can still request the password be mailed to them (and then they receive what I'm hoping is a random password). Using that, they can unsubscribe, but this is more work than filtering the mail, as you suggested that many do anyway. So it's not optimal, but it is acceptable. Thanks. Nathan Beittenmiller Systems Administrator -Original Message- I think that the closest you can come is to have the server notify you when someone unsubscribes. At that point a letter can be sent saying it is required that they be subscribed. I would think though that if someone were asking to be unsubscribed, and they were told they were required to be subscribed, they probably aren't reading the mail anyway. I know that I wouldn't. I'd find some way to filter it out. -- Raquel Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could; some blunders and absurdities have crept in; forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day; you shall begin it serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense. --Ralph Waldo Emerson -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
RE: [Mailman-Users] Blocking Unsubscribe?
Naturally we don't use beta software in our production environment unless we: A.) Have no choice or B.) Have sufficiently tested it. Mailman is currently being installed on a test box that may become live if we determine it to be an acceptable replacement (which is looking good at the moment). To ease your fears, I am currently working with the 2.0.13 version. :-) Nathan Beittenmiller Systems Administrator -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:30 PM To: Tom Ryan Cc: Nathan Beittenmiller; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Blocking Unsubscribe? On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Tom Ryan wrote: The latest betas of mailman can allow the admin to block unsubscribe requests. However, you can't block the users setting nomail, etc. Seems we're almost there, just not quite :) Please note however, Nathan, the use of the word beta in Tom's reply. I am sure you have read on the Mailman site that v2.1 is in development, and explicitly -not- recommended for production mailing list service, and that good ole' v2.0.x is the current stable version (v2.0.13 is the latest). It sounds like you are definitely running a production service, so I just wanted to emphasize the point, in case it had missed your eye. HTH, - Andrew Mailman Administrator - http://www.tux.org/mailman/listinfo/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Regreso de correos. [traduccion | translation]
I can't answer the question, but I'll provide a translation: - Hello list. I need a little help. I installed Mailman with no problems, created a list called 'doctores', and added two colleagues and myself as members of the list. None of the three received the welcome message sent by the 'doctores' list, and upon my sending a message to the list, it was returned in the following form: This is a MIME-encapsulated message Reporting-MTA: dns; valdo.uadec.mx Arrival-Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 18:46:06 -0500 Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Actual-Recipient: X-Unix; |/home/staff/mailman/mail/wrapper post doctores Action: failed Status: 5.5.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Unix; 69 Last-Attempt-Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 18:46:11 -0500 -- -- Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (from apache@localhost) by valdo.uadec.mx (8.11.6/8.11.2) id g7FNk6p17542; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 18:46:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 18:46:06 -0500 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Authentication-Warning: valdo.uadec.mx: apache set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f From: Oswaldo Lucio Estrada [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: sdasdas X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 148.212.1.157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 What's going on? The maillog records this: Aug 15 18:46:11 mail smrsh: uid 8: attempt to use wrapper post doctores Aug 15 18:46:11 mail sendmail[17545]: g7FNk6p17542: to=|/home/staff/mailman/mail/wrapper post doctores, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (8/0) , delay=00:00:05, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30271, dsn=5.0.0, stat=Service unavailable Aug 15 18:46:11 mail sendmail[17545]: g7FNk6p17542: g7FNkBo17545: DSN: Service unavailable Aug 15 18:46:11 mail sendmail[17545]: g7FNkBo17545: [EMAIL PROTECTED], delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, pri=30371, dsn=2.0 .0, stat=Sent Again, what's going on? Thanks in advance, Oswald. --- On 8/15/02 7:15 PM, Oswaldo Lucio Estrada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hola lista. Necesito un poco de se ayuda. Intale mailman sin ningun problema, cree una lista llamada doctores, agrege a otros dos compañeros y a mi mismo como miembros de esa lista. A los tres no llego el correo de bienvenida que envio la lista doctores, pero al enviar yo un correo a la lista se me regresa de la siguiente forma: This is a MIME-encapsulated message Reporting-MTA: dns; valdo.uadec.mx Arrival-Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 18:46:06 -0500 Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Actual-Recipient: X-Unix; |/home/staff/mailman/mail/wrapper post doctores Action: failed Status: 5.5.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Unix; 69 Last-Attempt-Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 18:46:11 -0500 -- -- Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (from apache@localhost) by valdo.uadec.mx (8.11.6/8.11.2) id g7FNk6p17542; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 18:46:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 18:46:06 -0500 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Authentication-Warning: valdo.uadec.mx: apache set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f From: Oswaldo Lucio Estrada [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: sdasdas X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 148.212.1.157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Que esta pasando. El maillog me despliega esto: Aug 15 18:46:11 mail smrsh: uid 8: attempt to use wrapper post doctores Aug 15 18:46:11 mail sendmail[17545]: g7FNk6p17542: to=|/home/staff/mailman/mail/wrapper post doctores, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (8/0) , delay=00:00:05, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30271, dsn=5.0.0, stat=Service unavailable Aug 15 18:46:11 mail sendmail[17545]: g7FNk6p17542: g7FNkBo17545: DSN: Service unavailable Aug 15 18:46:11 mail sendmail[17545]: g7FNkBo17545: [EMAIL PROTECTED], delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, pri=30371, dsn=2.0 .0, stat=Sent Nuevamente que pasa: De antemano gracias. Atte: Oswaldo _ Charle con sus amigos online usando MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix help
OK, update on my various postfix/mailman issues: got the 2.1b Mailman release and it's great. Easy config, and the web based features are exactly what I need. Integration with Postfix was actually documented in the 2.1 tarball (huzzah!) and works as advertised. Thanks for the help anyway - no doubt there will be other issues as we begin moving traffic on the lists. - Nathan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Postfix help
Hey all. Seems I've stepped into the middle of some sort of sniping match -- I assume it's all right to ask a simple question? I've been attempting to set up Mailman with Postfix, and things are not going well. Typical gid problems, and alias issues. Is there, anywhere on the entire Web, a FAQ or HOWTO about doing this? I do not have a README.Mailman file in my installation directory, and via Google, I can only seem to find cryptic references to the existence of such a file in list archives, not the actual text. I am downloading the 2.1b sources, but I don't know as I'll be able to run 2.1 without a massive system overhaul. If there's anyone out there willing to walk me through this installation, I'd be eternally grateful, and I will, I SWEAR, write up a Postfix-Mailman-newbie-HOWTO, if only for the assistance of others working with me on this project. Here are my needs: 1. Determining the *real* necessary GID for the --with-mail-gid flag. I get one GID reported by Postfix in the maillog error message, and another entirely when I run the Python query code reported elsewhere. They're one digit off, incidentally... I have read that Postfix does not need the Mailman wrapper, but have found no coherent instructions on how to disable it without hand-editing the aliases file with every list added. 2. Installing so that new lists are automatically aliased. I am the only person who will be working on this system who even knows how to log into the server. It would be very nice not to have to edit the alias file and run newaliases by hand with every list modification. 3. Adding lists via the Web. Is the Webmin Mailman module usable? Any tips? 4. Any other tips on making adding and administering lists as simple and transparent as possible. It is bright but technically illiterate folks who will be doing most of the administration, and the easier I can make it for them, the less frustration everyone will feel. Speaking of frustration, this whole system feels like a house of cards -- I build it up to the point where it seems like it will work, then suddenly get a GID error, or alias error, or something, and I'm back to make clean. I would RTFM, but in this case, it seems like TANFM. Please help. - Nathan McQuillen Erstwhile System Administrator prodane.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscriber Names
--- "Bob Puff@NLE" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way Mailman can store the user's name along with their email address? Is it perhaps possible to just add another field in the subscription part so that the administrator can get a better idea of who is subscribing? A name or "handle" feature would be most helpful both for the users and the list administrator. I would like to see this feature allow the users to access their settings via handle in place of email address as well. If anyone makes such a patch let the list know :) == // -=- Signature updated May 07 2000 -=- \\ | Nathan Grass http://www.zaz.net/| |** Free Email! http://helpdesk.zaz.net/ **| |** Free Shell! http://freeshell.zaz.net/ **| | zaz on DALnet #zaz ICQ: 35510843 | \\ -=- Expressed views are my opinions -=- // _ Free #HelpDesk Email, get yours: http://helpdesk.zaz.net/email/ - zaz Internet Services: http://www.zaz.net/ -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
