Re: [Mailman-Users] Log entries refer to which list?
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Allan Trick wrote: > > >> I was trying to determine if a message was sent to the lists it >> should have been sent to, and see two different types of entries in >> my SMTP log: >> >> >>> Aug 24 16:23:57 2006 (18946) >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp for 41 >>> recips, completed in 8.864 seconds >>> > > > This is a delivery of one message to the subscribers of one list with > 41 eligible recipients. > > > >>> Aug 24 16:23:58 2006 (18946) >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp for 1 recips, >>> completed in 0.296 seconds >>> > > > This is an internally generated mailman message (you can tell by the > form of the message ID). It could be an owner or user notification of > some kind. > > > >> Does the first line indicate the sending of a message to one list, >> which has 41 members? Is there one line like this per list that >> receives a message? If so, how does one determine which list that is? >> > > > Yes. Look in the 'post' log whose entries have message ID and list > name. You can correlate thes with 'smtp' log entries by message ID or > in the case of posts to multiple lists with the same message ID, by > timestamp. > > Note that current Mailman versions include the list name in the smtp > log message. > > You can do the same in your version by putting the following in > mm_cfg.py > > SMTP_LOG_EVERY_MESSAGE = ( > 'smtp', > '%(msg_message-id)s smtp to %(listname)s for %(#recips)d recips, > completed in %(time).3f seconds') > > (this is 3 lines, the last of which is wrapped by my MUA). > > > >> And what would the difference be in the second example? I'm guessing >> that is referring to maybe an umbrella list that was sent to. >> > > > See above. > > So looking thru this message I figure out that mailman has no any tool to be more ``friendly with verbose''. This i mean, ``exim'' has such a tool like `exigrep' helping me surfing thru logs by ID and parsing out all info about delivery (or error) on that ID. I mean I do `exigrep 'foo.diman' /var/log/exim_mainlog` and it greps 'foo.domain' (or other PATTERN) parses out Message-ID and greps everything that has this Message-ID from same log file... -- Oleg D. -- don't believe every word people use to say, they might be wrong. an undefined problem has infinitive number of solutions. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] setting moderator password with command line
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Oleg D. wrote: > > >> Alan Holmes wrote: >> >>> Is there a way to set the moderator password with one of the command line >>> tools? >>> > > >> $PREFIX/mailman/bin/mmsitepass >> > > > No! mmsitepass sets only the site admin password or the sitewide list > creator password. > > There is bin/change_pw that can be used to change a list's admin > password, but not it's moderator password. > > Whoops, sorry for mistake. Lil brain-buggy after hard-working day. ;-) Oleg D. -- don't believe every word people use to say, they might be wrong. an undefined problem has infinitive number of solutions. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] problem about a statistic script
liste yoneticisi wrote:
> Its OK.
>
> I want to share the script:
> -
> #!/bin/bash
>
> MONTH=`date +'%b'`
> echo $MONTH
> MAILMANDIR=/cwis/htdocs/mailman
> POSTLOG=$MAILMANDIR/logs/post
> LISTLISTS=$MAILMANDIR/bin/list_lists
> LISTMEMBERS=$MAILMANDIR/bin/list_members
> LISTOWNERS=$MAILMANDIR/bin/list_owners
> echo "Listname Posts Members"
> echo "="
>
> echo $LISTOWNERS
>
> for list in `$LISTLISTS | grep -v "matching mailing lists found" | awk
> '{print $1}'`
> do
> listlow=`echo $list | tr A-Z a-z`
> listupp=`echo $list | tr a-z A-Z`
> ownlist=`$LISTOWNERS $listlow | head`
> postnum=`grep "^$MONTH" $POSTLOG | grep -i "post to $list" | wc -l`
> membernum=`$LISTMEMBERS $list | wc -l`
>echo $list " | " $ownlist " | " $postnum " | " $membernum
> done
> ---
>
> Of course some estetic corrections are needed.
>
> But this isn't completed. I also want to add list creation date.
> We used to work on Listproc and we had a statistic script including the
> columns about list description and list creation date.
>
> description can be added but how can i add creation date?
>
>
> Liste Yoneticisi
> http://e-list.cc.metu.edu.tr
> http://e-liste.bidb.odtu.edu.tr
>
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006, liste yoneticisi wrote:
>
> I am trying to write the script on bash
>
> How can i use transrom to lower/upper commands?
>
> the manuals on the web didn't work.
>
> Liste Yoneticisi
> http://e-list.cc.metu.edu.tr
> http://e-liste.bidb.odtu.edu.tr
>
Sorry didn't see the bottom of your message.
You can try tolower(3), ex awk{'print tolower("FOO")}'
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages
Allan Trick wrote: > I'm just reporting back that in the scenario I was describing earlier > in this thread, I've checked logs and it appears that Mailman did do > what it was supposed to and deliver a message to all 20 of our > lists. So the fact that any given user who is subscribed to all > those lists only receives one message of the 20 would appear to be > due to Exchange's "helpfulness" in reducing in-box clutter. I'm not > sure I like this "feature" but there probably isn't much to be done > about it. Maybe it'll help others who didn't already know that > Exchange does this to read this in the FAQ. And if anyone more > knowledgeable about Exchange wants to comment and maybe provide a > workaround for cases where all messages sent to a bunch of lists ARE > received by the Exchange user in Outlook, that'd be nice. > > I've got a question about the logs, but I'll put that in a separate message. > > Allan > As David said it would be a great idea to have a post in FAQ about that ;-) David Lee on Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:55:01 +0100 (BST): "Hope that helps. (You might want to report back your findings for the benefit of the FAQ!)" -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] problem about a statistic script
liste yoneticisi wrote:
> Its OK.
>
> I want to share the script:
> -
> #!/bin/bash
>
> MONTH=`date +'%b'`
> echo $MONTH
> MAILMANDIR=/cwis/htdocs/mailman
> POSTLOG=$MAILMANDIR/logs/post
> LISTLISTS=$MAILMANDIR/bin/list_lists
> LISTMEMBERS=$MAILMANDIR/bin/list_members
> LISTOWNERS=$MAILMANDIR/bin/list_owners
> echo "Listname Posts Members"
> echo "="
>
> echo $LISTOWNERS
>
> for list in `$LISTLISTS | grep -v "matching mailing lists found" | awk
> '{print $1}'`
> do
> listlow=`echo $list | tr A-Z a-z`
> listupp=`echo $list | tr a-z A-Z`
> ownlist=`$LISTOWNERS $listlow | head`
> postnum=`grep "^$MONTH" $POSTLOG | grep -i "post to $list" | wc -l`
> membernum=`$LISTMEMBERS $list | wc -l`
>echo $list " | " $ownlist " | " $postnum " | " $membernum
> done
> ---
>
> Of course some estetic corrections are needed.
>
> But this isn't completed. I also want to add list creation date.
> We used to work on Listproc and we had a statistic script including the
> columns about list description and list creation date.
>
> description can be added but how can i add creation date?
>
>
> Liste Yoneticisi
> http://e-list.cc.metu.edu.tr
> http://e-liste.bidb.odtu.edu.tr
>
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006, liste yoneticisi wrote:
>
> I am trying to write the script on bash
>
> How can i use transrom to lower/upper commands?
>
> the manuals on the web didn't work.
>
> Liste Yoneticisi
> http://e-list.cc.metu.edu.tr
> http://e-liste.bidb.odtu.edu.tr
>
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006, Andreas Schulze wrote:
>
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>
>> how can i solve the problem?
>>
> uppercase Listnames as reported by list_lists throw errors in list_owner
> -> convert listnames to lower
>
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Whoops, your script is lil buggy:
echo "Listname Posts Members"
I use my own perl scripts for that, that generates very nice web-stats,
not only for mailman, but for whole userland programms on my machine :-)
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Re: [Mailman-Users] setting moderator password with command line
Alan Holmes wrote: > Is there a way to set the moderator password with one of the command line > tools? > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > Mailman-Users@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/perl%40ipchains.ru > > Security Policy: > http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp > $PREFIX/mailman/bin/mmsitepass -- Oleg D. -- don't believe every word people use to say, they might be wrong. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] SMTPHOST?
Jay Vaagen wrote: >Anyone have any suggestions on this issue? > > > > > > >Mailman is running, and I've created a few different mailing lists. > >I'm running Blue Quartz and have virtual domains. Currently all email sent >from Mailman is originating from my localhost FQDN. I would like email from >one of my virtual domains to originate from that domain name/IP, not the >localhost domain name and IP.. > > > >Is this possible? > > > >Thanks! > > > >Jay > > > > > >-- >Mailman-Users mailing list >Mailman-Users@python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py >Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ >Unsubscribe: >http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jay%40abadata.com > >Security Policy: >http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp > > > > mm_cfg.py: VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = On VHOST_EMAIL_HOST = '' VHOST_URL_HOST = 'www.' add_virtualhost(VHOST_URL_HOST, VHOST_EMAIL_HOST) add_virtualhost(VHOST_EMAIL_HOST, VHOST_EMAIL_HOST) and in lists' options set the right virtualdomain you'd like to use. Note that MTA must deliver mail for this domain -- Oleg D. -- don't believe every word people use to say, they might be wrong. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Double address in Reply-To header
Tomi Snellman wrote: >Hi > >Our Mailman was recently upgraded to 2.1.5. After the upgrade, a couple >of subscribers began complaining that they were receiving double replies >to their posts. It turned out that their MUA was appending their private >address to the list address in the Reply-To header. > >I've tried to find out what is happening, but without success. One >subscriber was using an old version of Outlook Express, but she was >still getting the same behaviour after she upgraded OE, and even after >she switched over to Thunderbird. Another subscriber is using some >version of elm. > >What really makes me wonder, what is different in the messages that this >can happen at all? With the old version of Mailman, nothing of the sort >happened. > >TIA > >Tomi Snellman >-- >Mailman-Users mailing list >Mailman-Users@python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py >Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ >Unsubscribe: >http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/perl%40ipchains.ru > >Security Policy: >http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp > > Did you stopped older version of mailman with your ``cli'' scripts eq `mailmanctl' ? -- Oleg D. -- don't believe every word people use to say, they might be wrong. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] qmail setup question
Peter Horst wrote: >Hi, I'm trying to set up Mailman on a Fedora Core 5 system running >qmail. I'm using the current yum (rpm) package of Mailman. > >The 2.1 Installation Manual says: > >"Then make your aliases: >.qmail => [EMAIL PROTECTED] letters >.qmail-owner => mailman-owner’s letters" > >I can't parse this - can someone break it down for me? What does >"[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s letters" mean? > >Thanks, hope this is not too dumb. > >Peter > > Refer to your MTA documentation. Also, it is a good practice to *google* solution first. There're a lot of solutions how to solve this. As for exim i do this like that: mailman_router: driver = accept condition = MAILMAN_ENABLED require_files = MAILMAN_VAR/lists/$local_part/config.pck local_part_suffix_optional local_part_suffix = -bounces : -bounces+* : \ -confirm+* : -join : -leave : \ -owner : -request : -admin transport = mailman_transport Maybe your MTA has some like that? -- Oleg D. -- don't believe every word people use to say, they might be wrong. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Exchange is really all that's recently changed in our environment. I think >I'll focus my trouble-shooting there now. > >Thank you, all! > >Allan > > >mail2web - Check your email from the web at >http://mail2web.com/ . > > > Try to find out where problem *exists* first. If mailman does all the thing needed it's not mailman's problem. Just take a look inside mailman's logs first. -- Oleg D. -- don't believe every word people use to say, they might be wrong. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Brad Knowles wrote: > > > >>check the Mailman logs, to see how many copies of each message was >> >> >delivered to the MTA, and then check the MTA logs to track down the >individual deliveries to each user. > >OK, I'll do that. But once I determine the problem, then how to fix it? >Say I confirm Mailman is only delivering one copy of a message (rather than >20), what can I do? (First thing I do will probably be to come right back >here and post!) > >Allan > > > >mail2web - Check your email from the web at >http://mail2web.com/ . > > >-- >Mailman-Users mailing list >Mailman-Users@python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py >Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ >Unsubscribe: >http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/perl%40ipchains.ru > >Security Policy: >http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp > > Please, be sure that mailman delivers messages to MTA. If it delivers to MTA, then it's *not* a mailman problem. -- Oleg D. -- don't believe every word people use to say, they might be wrong. an undefined problem has infinitive number of solutions. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:55:48 -0500, Allan Trick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone have a clue as to why one of our people might not be receiving > messages he is sending to lists to which he is subscribed? I've > checked and see his address on the membership list for each > list. The "mod" box is unchecked. (I'm also subscribed to these > lists and received all the messages he sent out.) But he hasn't > received any of them. > > My first thought was a filter or rule on his local email client. But > I don't see any evidence of that. Therefore I'm suspicious there's a > setting somewhere in Mailman that is preventing his messages from > being sent to himself. > > Thanks in advance! > > Allan > Seems like there's some problem in user's settings, did he checked ``Sent my own posts to list to me'' or some like that? -- don't believe every word people use to say, they might be wrong. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hit a Bug during server move
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:07:48 -0400, Anne Ramey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oleg D. wrote: >> >> On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:00:56 -0400, Anne Ramey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >>> I'm moving my mailman lists to a new server and when I go to the web >>> interface, I now get: >>> >>> >>> Bug in Mailman version 2.1.8 >>> >>> >>> We're sorry, we hit a bug! >>> >>> Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of >>> traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, >>> but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. >>> >>> But there is no information in the Mailman logs or the apache logs > about >>> this error and my posts to the lists fail. Any pointers would be much >>> appreciated. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Anne Ramey >>> >> >> >> Is there any log messages in /var/mailman/logs/error or somewhere esle > you store your mailman ``var-prefix''? >> >> > No, there was nothing. I finally figured out that my permissions lost > the suid in transfer. I can now access my web portion. Now I just need > to test if my post failures were related. > > Thank you for your response. > > Anne > > It is a good practice to use `$PREFIX/mailman/bin/check_perms` after setting up a new mailman (; -- don't believe every word people use to say, they might be wrong. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hit a Bug during server move
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:00:56 -0400, Anne Ramey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm moving my mailman lists to a new server and when I go to the web > interface, I now get: > > > Bug in Mailman version 2.1.8 > > > We're sorry, we hit a bug! > > Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of > traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, > but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. > > But there is no information in the Mailman logs or the apache logs about > this error and my posts to the lists fail. Any pointers would be much > appreciated. > > > -- > Anne Ramey Is there any log messages in /var/mailman/logs/error or somewhere esle you store your mailman ``var-prefix''? -- don't believe every word people use to say, they might be wrong. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam avoidance, revisited: best practices?
Matt England wrote: > At 8/23/2006 06:43 AM, Oleg D. wrote: > >>> This is the best email I have yet to find describing how >>> mail.python.org proactive kills spam: >>> >>> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2006-March/332443.html >>> >>> I'm also considering adding these capabilities (which may or may not >>> be implicit in the above description) to combat spam: >>> >>> * Don't allow email from non-subscribers >>> * Moderate email from new subscribers some period of time (probably >>> a day to a week) >>> >>> Does mail.python.org do either or these things and/or is this >>> generally a good practice? >>> >>> Any other suggestions? >> >> >> Good practice is to filter spam with MTA. Not with mailman even. >> -- >> Oleg D. > > > Is that not what this link (mentioned above) states? > > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2006-March/332443.html > > -Matt Exactly that is. :-) -- Oleg D. -- don't believe every word people use to say, they might be wrong. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam avoidance, revisited: best practices?
>This is the best email I have yet to find describing how mail.python.org >proactive kills spam: > >http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2006-March/332443.html > >I'm also considering adding these capabilities (which may or may not be >implicit in the above description) to combat spam: > >* Don't allow email from non-subscribers >* Moderate email from new subscribers some period of time (probably a day >to a week) > >Does mail.python.org do either or these things and/or is this generally a >good practice? > >Any other suggestions? > >-Matt > >-- >Mailman-Users mailing list >Mailman-Users@python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py >Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ >Unsubscribe: >http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/perl%40ipchains.ru > >Security Policy: >http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp > > Good practice is to filter spam with MTA. Not with mailman even. -- Oleg D. -- don't believe every word people use to say, they might be wrong. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
