[Mailman-Users] Apostrophe in a user's email
We are trying to subscribe a user who has an apostrophe in their email address to a list using the web interface and get the message: “Hostile address (illegal characters)”. Suggestions as to how we proceed. (For some reason, the e-mail commands do not seem to be responding - was going to try using that but that is a separate issue) Paul -- Paul Kleeberg 7811 128th Street West Apple Valley, MN 55124 952-686-7734 p...@fpen.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Distutils is not available or is incomplete for /usr/bin/python
Odd how things come back again. Searching for a solution to a problem I am having with a clean install, I found this. Apparently this problem was solved for me almost 4 years ago for me by installing Xcode. Now it is not. I have a clean install of MacOSX 10.8.3 server, downloaded Xcode 4.6.1 from the App Store and installed it. Was following the instructions on Allen's post http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2013-March/074888.html and when I went to run: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/mailman --with-cgi-gid=_www --with-mail-gid=_mailman Got the message: * Distutils is not available or is incomplete for /usr/bin/python Grr… Searching the Xcode documentation for distutils, I find: The Python modules included in the standard package for OS X are the following: • bdist_mpkg — Builds OS X installer packages from distutils So I assume it should be in there. Interestingly the command found in http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg56963.html produces: mini53:~ paul$ sudo Python -V sudo: Python: command not found While mini53:~ paul$ sudo python -V Python 2.7.2 Is the problem in that my partition is case sensitive? Suggestions as to what I should do? Paul -- Paul Kleeberg p...@fpen.org On Dec 14, 2009, at 11:05 AM, Jerry Stratton je...@sandiego.edu wrote: On Dec 14, 2009, at 8:39 AM, Paul Kleeberg wrote: Distutils is not available or is incomplete for /usr/bin/python http://www.google.com/search?client=safarirls=enq=Distutils+is+not+available+or+is+incomplete+for+/usr/bin/pythonie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8 Have you installed XCode? Jerry On Windows, use Alt-PrtScr to take a screenshot; you can then paste it into an e-mail message. On Mac OS X, use Command-Shift-3 to take a screenshot (or if you only want to send a single window, use Command-Shift-4, position the mouse over the window you want, and then use the space bar). This will create a file on your desktop that you can drag into any document, such as an e-mail message. Jerold Stratton, je...@sandiego.edu http://home.sandiego.edu/~jerry/ User Services Consultant, Web Systems and Programming University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park, Maher Hall 190 (619) 260-4810 x8773 -- The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair.--Douglas Adams (Mostly Harmless) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving list members and passwords to Mailman onanew server
User error :-). Worked exactly as Mark described. Had to wrestle with Apache and dns little bit though (since I was adding a domain name to the new server) and the Mac web interface. The web interface hosed my DNS but luckily was able to get it all back. I do have one error. I get the message that there are no publicly advertised lists on both the admin and listinfo pages however when I append those URLs with /listname it takes me to the appropriate pages and everything works fine from there. I tried turning on and off the Advertise this list… in the privacy settings but it did not seem to make a difference. Also ran withlist -l -r fix_url listname but that did not seem to make a difference. Paul -- Paul Kleeberg p...@fpen.org On Jan 20, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: Paul Kleeberg wrote: Can anyone tell me how I might migrate the list members to the new server along with their passwords? Just copy the config.pck files to the appropriate place on the new server. Also, see the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/2oA9. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving list members and passwords to Mailman onanew server
Bingo! Thanks again! -- Paul Kleeberg p...@fpen.org On Jan 21, 2013, at 11:47 AM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: If the host name in the URL you are using to access the listinfo page is not the same as DEFAULT_URL_HOST, you need to run withlist -l -r fix_url listname -u hostname See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/6oA9 and perhaps the others linked therefrom. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Moving list members and passwords to Mailman on a new server
I am finally migrating a copy of mailman lists off of an older Mac running 10.6
(Snow Leopard) Server to a new Mac with Mountain Lion 10.8 server. I found the
instructions on http://www.livetime.com/mountain-lion-mailman-mailing-list/
very helpful to install mailman on 10.8. Since the paths seemed to be vastly
different, I migrated the config.pck files with config_list, extracting the
settings from 10.6 and importing them to the new config.pck file on the 10.8
box. Subscribers were not migrated though it appears they are in the pickle
file.
I tried to use step 6 from the website above
ln -s /usr/local/mailman/bin/paths.py
python
import paths
import Mailman, pickle
configFile = open('config.pck')
config = pickle.load(configFile)
config['created_at']
a title=members href=http://www.livetime.com/members/;members/a =
config['members'].keys()
members.sort()
print 'n'.join(members)
But it did not work for me. I tried pasting line by line, but after the python
command, I was stuck. I also fear that, thought it might be successful, it may
not migrate passwords.
Can anyone tell me how I might migrate the list members to the new server along
with their passwords?
Paul
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Error running bin/mailmanctl restart
Mark has been helping me with this off-line but I thought I would send this to the list to see if there are others who are aware of the solution. I have been using the following on a clean install of Mac Server 10.5.8 and upgrading Mailman 2.1.9 to 2.1.12: ./configure --prefix=/usr/share/mailman --with-cgi-gid=_www --with-mail-gid=mail --with-mailhost=domain.com --with-urlhost=domain.com --with-var-prefix=/var/mailman --with-groupname=_mailman and get the following error: * Installation directory /var/mailman is not configured properly! * Directory must be owned by group _mailman: /var/mailman /var/mailman is has the settings root:wheel while the files inside are root:_mailman. Do I need to change the group of the /var/mailman directory for the install? I know that change is probably not significant, but I an not sure enough of my knowledge to know. Once I get this right, I plan on upgrading a 10.6.2 production server running 2.1.12rc1 to 2.1.12. Thanks! Paul -- Paul Kleeberg p...@fpen.org On Dec 16, 2009, at 3:53 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Paul Kleeberg wrote: You are correct. /var points to /private/var but /private/var/mailman is owned by root:wheel. Should I chgrp to _mailman which is the group of all the files inside or use --with-groupname=wheel As long as the subordinate directories are all group _mailman and SETGID, the group of var-prefix itself doesn't matter. And you should configure with --with-groupname=_mailman to match the group of the existing install. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Error running bin/mailmanctl restart
I am ready to tear my hair out. Thanks to Mark, I got mailman up and running except for one minor hitch. In my log file I see an endless stream of: 12/17/09 11:56:49 AM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.list.mailmanctl) Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds 12/17/09 11:57:00 AM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.list.mailmanctl) Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds Searching the archives, I found this (The thread starts at http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg53952.html): The only difference between my org.list.mailmanctl.plist and Apple's is my verb *start*, as opposed to Apple's *startf*. I'm baffled by *startf*, which is not supported by mailman and does nothing, either in the CLI or in org.list.mailmanctl.plist. Further on down in the messages I read: I just caught that Bryan notes that he receives an endless succession of those messages where as I see one and that's it. Comparing our launchd .plist files, I see a few differences: Bryan: keyOnDemand/key false/ Me: keyOnDemand/key true/ keyRunAtLoad/key true/ So I made that change to /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/org.list.mailmanctl.plist. Everything appeared to work fine, web interface works, creating a list works but qrunner does not to appear to start on bootup. it appears that I now have to manually run: sudo /usr/share/mailman/bin/mailmanctl start to get mailman to start. That concerns me. I need to know how to get it to start on boot and how to restart itself if it dies. When this is all done, I would be happy to summarize what I learned for http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030530. Paul -- Paul Kleeberg p...@fpen.org On Dec 17, 2009, at 9:35 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Paul Kleeberg wrote: and get the following error: * Installation directory /var/mailman is not configured properly! * Directory must be owned by group _mailman: /var/mailman /var/mailman is has the settings root:wheel while the files inside are root:_mailman. Do I need to change the group of the /var/mailman directory for the install? I know that change is probably not significant, but I an not sure enough of my knowledge to know. It is only significant to configure in your case, but configure whant the prefix and var_prefix directories to be SETGID and Mailman's group so that subordinates created by make install will be the same. When you originally asked about this off line, I thought what you had would be OK because it was a working installation, but apparently it only works for Apple :( You need to chgrp _mailman /var/mailman chmod g+s /var/mailman to make configure happy. The prefix directory (/usr/share/mailman in your case) needs to be the same. Once I get this right, I plan on upgrading a 10.6.2 production server running 2.1.12rc1 to 2.1.12. FYI, 2.1.13rc1 is released and 2.1.13 final will be released next week barring the unexpected. It fixes several minor bugs in 2.1.12. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with an error
Now that I know what a nightmare it is for me to upgrade Apple's installation of Mailman on a 10.5.8 server, I am not eager to upgrade my 10.6.2 server to which this message applies. I would like to apply the patch that Mark sent to me but I see from faq 4.40 that I will need to go through the same process of './configure' and 'make install' as I would with an upgrade. Are there any other options? I would like to leave it alone, but denying a subscription request fails and i keep getting reminders each morning of the pending request. Are there other options to deny the request? Paul -- Paul Kleeberg p...@fpen.org On Dec 13, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Paul Kleeberg wrote: In attending to a subscription request to a sunsetted list (the request came before the migration) via the web interface, I received an error. Here is the mailman error log (I have modified e-mail addresses and the domain name): Dec 13 08:35:55 2009 admin(81221): admin(81221): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.12rc1 -] admin(81221): [- Traceback --] admin(81221): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(81221): File /usr/share/mailman/scripts/driver, line 112, in run_main admin(81221): main() admin(81221): File /BinaryCache/mailman/mailman-132~28/Root/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py, line 164, in main admin(81221): File /BinaryCache/mailman/mailman-132~28/Root/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py, line 773, in process_form admin(81221): AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get' This is a bug in 2.1.12rc1. Upgrade to 2.1.12 or install the attached admindb.patch.txt. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan admindb.patch.txt -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Upgrading Mailman on Mac Server 10.5.8 - Stuck!
I am upgrading preinstalled versions of Mailman (first 2.1.9 = 2.1.12 on a clean install of server 10.5.8 as practice then I will do 2.1.12 rc1 = 2.1.12 in production on server 10.6.2) and I am running into a bunch of minor issues. I have made it through most of them but this one has me stuck. When I try and run mailmanctl, I get the error message: Shutting down Mailman's master qrunner PID unreadable in: /usr/share/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/share/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid' Is qrunner even running? and I find that the file is in another directory: /private/var/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid I have tried different things in the bin/config command, but nothing appears to work. I have tried searching for a solution but have found nothing. Can anyone help? Paul -- Paul Kleeberg p...@fpen.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading Mailman on Mac Server 10.5.8 - Stuck!
Never mind. Mark already answered my question. I had forgotten I had asked it. My apologies. Paul -- Paul Kleeberg p...@fpen.org On Dec 16, 2009, at 3:19 PM, Paul Kleeberg wrote: I am upgrading preinstalled versions of Mailman (first 2.1.9 = 2.1.12 on a clean install of server 10.5.8 as practice then I will do 2.1.12 rc1 = 2.1.12 in production on server 10.6.2) and I am running into a bunch of minor issues. I have made it through most of them but this one has me stuck. When I try and run mailmanctl, I get the error message: Shutting down Mailman's master qrunner PID unreadable in: /usr/share/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/share/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid' Is qrunner even running? and I find that the file is in another directory: /private/var/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid I have tried different things in the bin/config command, but nothing appears to work. I have tried searching for a solution but have found nothing. Can anyone help? Paul -- Paul Kleeberg p...@fpen.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/paul%40fpen.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Distutils is not available or is incomplete for /usr/bin/python
I am upgrading a MacOSX 10.5.8 Server with Mailman 2.1.9 to 2.1.12. In attempting to ./configure mailman, I encounter the following: Distutils is not available or is incomplete for /usr/bin/python Here is the version information I have on Python: Python 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Feb 6 2009, 19:02:12) [GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5465)] on darwin Suggestions on how to proceed? I have marginal skills. Paul -- Paul Kleeberg p...@fpen.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Error running bin/mailmanctl restart
In my migration of a MacOS 10.5.8 server from mailman 2.1.9 to 2.1.12, I discovered I had to install Python 2.5.4 and XCode 3.2.1 to get a compiler. It compiled with the command: /configure --prefix=/usr/share/mailman --with-cgi-gid=_www --with-mail-gid=mail --with-mailhost=domain.com --with-urlhost=domain.com But now when I try and run I get: server:mailman-2.1.12 paul$ sudo /usr/share/mailman/bin/mailmanctl restart Restarting Mailman's master qrunner PID unreadable in: /usr/share/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/share/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid' Is qrunner even running? I find the .pid file in: /private/var/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid Should I be adding something to the configure command? Paul -- Paul Kleeberg p...@fpen.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Help with an error
Migrated mailman from one box to another with a slight name change on the virtual hosts. Ran: 3) bin/withlist -l -r fix_url listname -u www.domain.tld to fix the web page URLs 4) 'bin/arch --wipe' 5) 'bin/genaliases' to create the alias file. In attending to a subscription request to a sunsetted list (the request came before the migration) via the web interface, I received an error. Here is the mailman error log (I have modified e-mail addresses and the domain name): Dec 13 08:35:55 2009 admin(81221): admin(81221): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.12rc1 -] admin(81221): [- Traceback --] admin(81221): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(81221): File /usr/share/mailman/scripts/driver, line 112, in run_main admin(81221): main() admin(81221): File /BinaryCache/mailman/mailman-132~28/Root/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py, line 164, in main admin(81221): File /BinaryCache/mailman/mailman-132~28/Root/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py, line 773, in process_form admin(81221): AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get' admin(81221): [- Python Information -] admin(81221): sys.version = 2.6.1 (r261:67515, Jul 7 2009, 23:51:51) [GCC 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5646)] admin(81221): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python admin(81221): sys.prefix = /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6 admin(81221): sys.exec_prefix = /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6 admin(81221): sys.path= /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6 admin(81221): sys.platform= darwin admin(81221): [- Environment Variables -] admin(81221): HTTP_REFERER: http://www.mydomain.com/mailman/admindb/cds-mneug admin(81221): VERSIONER_PYTHON_PREFER_32_BIT: no admin(81221): SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/2.2.13 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.13 OpenSSL/0.9.8k PHP/5.3.0 admin(81221): SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/admindb admin(81221): SERVER_SIGNATURE: addressApache/2.2.13 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.13 OpenSSL/0.9.8k PHP/5.3.0 Server at www.mydomain.com Port 80/address admin(81221): admin(81221): REQUEST_METHOD: POST admin(81221): PATH_INFO: /cds-mneug admin(81221): HTTP_ORIGIN: http://www.mydomain.com admin(81221): SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1 admin(81221): QUERY_STRING: admin(81221): CONTENT_LENGTH: 68 admin(81221): HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10_6_2; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.21.8 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.4 Safari/531.21.10 admin(81221): HTTP_CONNECTION: keep-alive admin(81221): HTTP_COOKIE: cds-mneug+admin=28020069abfb244b73280034333533356532663261346266343665306538363832656532373233366562336164363434613735; himss-cpoe+admin=280200693ffb244b73280062393066626336636632356230643436303966616139343438303762323736373235643530616237; __utma=235507584.16807.1171413544.1260036906.1260212869.32; __utmz=235507584.1258473236.29.5.utmcsr=myhq.com|utmccn=(referral)|utmcmd=referral|utmcct=/ admin(81221): SERVER_NAME: www.mydomain.com admin(81221): REMOTE_ADDR: 192.168.1.7 admin(81221): PATH_TRANSLATED: /Library/WebServer/mydomain/cds-mneug admin(81221): SERVER_PORT: 80 admin(81221): SERVER_ADDR: 192.168.1.1 admin(81221): DOCUMENT_ROOT: /Library/WebServer/mydomain admin(81221): HTTP_X_COLLABORATION_WIKIS: Enabled admin(81221): PYTHONPATH: /usr/share/mailman admin(81221): SCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/share/mailman/cgi-bin/admindb admin(81221): SERVER_ADMIN: ad...@mydomain.com admin(81221): SCRIPT_URI: http://www.mydomain.com/mailman/admindb/cds-mneug admin(81221): HTTP_HOST: www.mydomain.com admin(81221): SCRIPT_URL: /mailman/admindb/cds-mneug admin(81221): REQUEST_URI: /mailman/admindb/cds-mneug admin(81221): HTTP_ACCEPT: application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5 admin(81221): GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 admin(81221): REMOTE_PORT: 54251 admin(81221): HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en-us admin(81221): HTTP_X_COLLABORATION_BLOGS: Enabled admin(81221): __CF_USER_TEXT_ENCODING: 0x46:0:0 admin(81221): VERSIONER_PYTHON_VERSION: 2.6 admin(81221): CONTENT_TYPE: application/x-www-form-urlencoded admin(81221): HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip, deflate I am wondering, was this error due to the migration and I do not need to do anything, or is there something else I need to do? Paul -- Paul Kleeberg p...@fpen.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Creating aliases for moved lists
I have moved several lists to a new box with virtual domains. I have moved /archives and /lists, used with_list and fix_url but I remembered something about aliases and looked and saw ~/mailman/data/aliases does not contain the moved lists. Is that a manual build, a command I should run, or is there something else I can do to merge the two files? Paul -- Paul Kleeberg p...@fpen.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Moving lists on one box with several virtual hosts
I have several Mailman lists on one box that has several virtual sites. I need to move them to a new box and I want to change the web address for users to manage their addresses from virtual1.tld to www.virtual1.tld. Looking at both config_list and with_list, I do not see a way to do that. I see how I may assign a domain for the list, but not one that assigns a domain for the web address to the list. I would not think I needed to do this but whenever I try and access the list page with virtual1.tld it succeeds and it fails with www.virtual1.tld. Thanks for any help you can provide. Paul -- Paul Kleeberg p...@fpen.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Having the Web interface show the same lists with or without the www. prefix
Here is my question: Is there anything I can do so that the mailman web interface will show the same lists whether or not the www. prefix appears? Background: Migrated and upgraded a from MacOSX Server 10.4 to 10.5 which included an upgrade of Mailman to 2.1.9. Everything functioned well. I have 2 virtual domains and the lists on the two domains have remained distinct and functioning. Mailman's web interface responded to www.domain1.com and domain1.com with one set of mailing lists and www.domain2.com and domain2.com as the other site. Now that I have upgraded to Apache 2.2. it appears that it the 2 web pages with the lists will only respond to the web pages if the www. is not included. Is there anything I can do so that the web interface for each sets of lists will work with or without the www. prefix? -- Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Having the Web interface show the same lists with or without the www. prefix
Raquel, That is a good question. I tried a server alias but that did not seem to work with Apache 2.2 (I think it did with 1.3 but who knows! my memory ain't what is used to be). All other web pages would work except for the Mailman lists. However, after having a Java Stout (my favorite mid-day beverage) and a slice of pizza (stimulated the dormant coding neurons in my brain) I was struck by the obvious: Redirecting www.domain.com/mailman/ to domain.com/mailman/ All is well. Thanks for the input! Paul -- Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jan 26, 2008, at 12:09 PM, Raquel wrote: On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:42:29 -0600 Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is my question: Is there anything I can do so that the mailman web interface will show the same lists whether or not the www. prefix appears? Background: Migrated and upgraded a from MacOSX Server 10.4 to 10.5 which included an upgrade of Mailman to 2.1.9. Everything functioned well. I have 2 virtual domains and the lists on the two domains have remained distinct and functioning. Mailman's web interface responded to www.domain1.com and domain1.com with one set of mailing lists and www.domain2.com and domain2.com as the other site. Now that I have upgraded to Apache 2.2. it appears that it the 2 web pages with the lists will only respond to the web pages if the www. is not included. Is there anything I can do so that the web interface for each sets of lists will work with or without the www. prefix? -- Paul Kleeberg This seems to be more of a question for the Apache list, however, what does your virtual host directive look like? Mine ... which works: VirtualHost 99.999.999.999:80 ServerName www.domain.com ServerAlias domain.com -- Raquel The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only legitimate object of good government. --Thomas Jefferson -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Too many moderator requests
I have a moderator who has not dealt with moderator requests for so long that the web page to manage them times out when it attempts to load. We wish do delete all the pending messages. How do I proceed? Paul -- Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Switching to MacOSX
I am currently using Mailman on Redhat 8.0 and to be honest it was a pain for me to get that to work with the redHat version of htDig which as it turns out was a beta version released as 3.2. I am not looking to start a religious war but am considering switching to MacOSX Server from RedHat. My current hardware is on its last legs and RH8 is no longer supported. From the perspective of Mailman and htDig, am I making a mistake? I think server comes with MM2.1.2 I doubt it comes with htDig. I am marginally skilled with RH Linux and BSD. Will be easier or more difficult to configure MM and htDig on the Mac than RH. I run only a handful of lists that have 50 to 500 users. Paul -- Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] 2 mailman domains on one box
I am sure this has been discussed but I was hoping to save time searching the archives. Can anyone point me to instructions on how I can have two separate sets of mailman lists with different domains on one box? I currently run different websites on the same box using VirtualHosts. Thanks! -- Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Odd results running nightly_htdig
This has been going on for a while but I have finally decided to address it. Old list, originally on Listproc, converted last February. Some older messages have large attachments. I have just updated to mm2.1.3 and cleaned up the archives after editing the mbox file and then using arch --wipe ... and blow_away_htdig. When I use nightly_rundig, I get the following: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# cron/nightly_htdig pg-type: 0 page size:8192 00-07: Log sequence number. file : 0 00-07: Log sequence number. offset: 0 08-11: Current page number. : 53 12-15: Previous page number. : 0 16-19: Next page number. : 0 20-21: Number of item pairs on the page. : 0 22-23: High free byte page offset. : 8192 24: Btree tree level. : 0 25: Page type.: 0 entry offsets: 0: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 20: 0 0 0 20 0 0 fc 1f fc 1f ec 1f e8 1f d8 1f d4 1f c4 1f 40: c0 1f b0 1f ac 1f 9c 1f 98 1f 88 1f 84 1f 74 1f 70 1f 60 1f snip 8140: 61 74 65 87 0 0 0 2 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 b 0 1 64 8160: 61 74 65 87 0 0 0 2 1 0 1 0 1 0 81 0 b 0 1 64 8180: 61 74 65 87 0 0 0 2 1 0 81 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# The indexing has appeared to work. log/error does not have an entry for this. Any ideas? Should I do anything or should I ignore it? RH 8.0, htdig 3.2 (RedHat's htdig - have been reluctant to remove it for fear of breaking something else). Paul -- Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Managing attachments in the list archive
I am transferring a list to Mailman 2.1.1 in which the members like to send each other attachments. Attachments seem to be distributed fine to the members but archive storage looks like it will be spotty. In testing from a PC with NT4.0 and Outlook2K, .jpg and .doc files seem to store just fine. .pdf files go through to the subscribers but are stored on the web with a -0001.obj replacing the .pdf at the end of the file name. The file is then not recognized on the client machine. When sent by a Macintosh with OSX using either Eudora or Mail.app, attachments which are listed as type multipart/appledouble are skipped and not stored in the web archives. The attachments are distributed to the members intact but the archive states Skipped content of type multipart/appledouble Two questions: 1. How can I control what filetypes are stored and what are skipped? 2. Is there a way to fix the way the .pdf files from the PC are stored? Paul -- Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Managing attachments in the list archive
I considered using MHArc which uses MHonArc and makes it searchable but I decided against it for some odd reason which might have been unique to my site and which I do not currently recall. Again: 1. Is there a way to control what filetypes are stored and what are skipped? 2. Is there a way to fix the way the .pdf files from the PC are stored? At 2:49 PM -0500 3/15/03, Jon Carnes wrote: Pipermail is the archiver that comes built-in to Mailman. While Pipermail fits the needs of 90% of the folks who use Mailman, it is a light-weight archiver. For more heavy duty archive use, you should look at using something like Mhonarc. Mhonarc should be able to handle your needs easily, and there is an FAQ on setting up Mhonarc with Mailman. Good Luck - Jon Carnes On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 10:02, Paul Kleeberg wrote: I am transferring a list to Mailman 2.1.1 in which the members like to send each other attachments. Attachments seem to be distributed fine to the members but archive storage looks like it will be spotty. In testing from a PC with NT4.0 and Outlook2K, .jpg and .doc files seem to store just fine. .pdf files go through to the subscribers but are stored on the web with a -0001.obj replacing the .pdf at the end of the file name. The file is then not recognized on the client machine. When sent by a Macintosh with OSX using either Eudora or Mail.app, attachments which are listed as type multipart/appledouble are skipped and not stored in the web archives. The attachments are distributed to the members intact but the archive states Skipped content of type multipart/appledouble Two questions: 1. How can I control what filetypes are stored and what are skipped? 2. Is there a way to fix the way the .pdf files from the PC are stored? Paul -- Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Help with user_optionsurl
Forgive me if I am missing the obvious. I asked this last week and did not see any replies but since I still have not figured it out, I thought I should ask again. I want to personalize the footers in the messages of my lists as described in a post by Jon Carnes on 2/1 and repeated on 2/20 but I find that the variable user_optionsurl uses the hostname from /etc/hosts and not the one that is configured using DEFAULT_URL_HOST or DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST within mm_cfg.py. Is there a way to change that so that it reflects the preferred hostname? If there is not I will change the name in /etc/hosts but I am trying to avoid that. Paul -- Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bulk subscribe in digest mode?
I tried doing this with Mailman 2.1.1 and was unsuccessful. All new subscribers entered in to the Mass Subscription form in the Membership Management Section were added as receiving the regular delivery method regardless of whether regular or digest was selected in the Digest Options section. The default format of the digest (MIME vs Plain) was recorded accurately though even though the digest button was not selected. At 2:55 PM + 1/31/03, Simon White wrote: 31-Jan-03 at 08:25, Ignacio Valdes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : Is there a way to mass subscribe users with digest mode as the default? Thanks, snip Otherwise, make digest the default, mass subscribe with the web tool, then change the default (if necessary) back to normal mode. -- Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] user_optionsurl
I am personalizing my lists and I notice that user_optionsurl uses the hostname from /etc/hosts and not the one that is configured using DEFAULT_URL_HOST or DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST. Is there a way to change that? -- Paul Kleeberg, M.D. O o [EMAIL PROTECTED] Family Physicians' E-Net-+---+- Voice: 612-840-3744 5025 Mulcare Drive |_o_| Family Practice Columbia Heights, MN 55421 USA / \|/ \ Information Services -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Settings for filtering messages with attachments
Forgive me for asking what may be obvious. I am about to restart a list that was on listproc. I want to use content filtering but I am not clear what it does to the archives, to the messages or to the digests. I have read the documentation on the Content Filtering page and sent several types of messages but I am still confused. Initially I had it set to No. I sent a message in rich text and it appears to go through unfiltered but the archive has a message that is text only with a URL pointer to an attachment.bin that I cannot seem to open. From the documentation: Content filtering works like this: when a message is received by the list and you have enabled content filtering, the individual attachments are first compared to the filter types. If the attachment type matches an entry in the filter types, it is discarded. Does IT is discarded refer to just the attachment or the whole message? I assume the attachment. Then, if there are pass types defined, any attachment type that does not match a pass type is also discarded. If there are no pass types defined, this check is skipped. So the default is to allow multipart/mixed, multipart/alternative, and text/plain to pass through. (I am really not clear what these may house except for plain text.) So these are the only sections that are allowed to pass (if filtering is enabled otherwise everything gets through) What about text/html? Does that get through? After this initial filtering, any multipart attachments that are empty are removed. If the outer message is left empty after this filtering, then the whole message is discarded. Then, each multipart/alternative section will be replaced by just the first alternative that is non-empty after filtering. I take this to mean it the message has only rejected sections and all that is left is the shell of the message, then the shell is discarded, otherwise the first section that makes it through becomes the the first section in the message Finally, any text/html parts that are left in the message may be converted to text/plain if convert_html_to_plaintext is enabled and the site is configured to allow these conversions. How does text/html get through to this point if it is not in the pass_mime_types? If I want text/html to be converted, do I have to put text/html in the pass_mime_types? But does this have any effect on the archives? (It seems it I turn on filtering that there is no attachment.bin) What does it do to the appearance of the digests? I guess ideally I would all mail to go out as text and any attachments stripped and potentially stored with a url for retrieval by the willing. Am I dreaming? I guess I need a tutorial on the anatomy of a multipart message. Anyone know where I can find one? Paul (just enough knowledge to be a hazard to myself) -- Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Topic buckets
Can a message appear in zero, 1, 2 or more topic buckets? -- Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Harvesting addresses
I like the way that mailman changes e-mail addresses so that they cannot be automatically harvested by spammers, but I am concerned by the fact that a lists entire archive can be downloaded. I want to have an open list but I am a bit uncomfortable with allowing the entire archive to be retrieved (with intact e-mail addresses) with a single click of the mouse. Has anyone created a patch to remove the downloadable versions? Am I just being paranoid? Paul -- Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Last Updated in searchable archives not updating w/ 2.1.1
I have integrated RH8.0's htdig 3.2 with Mailman. I first installed in on a server with MM2.1 and then applied the same patches to MM2.1.1 to upgrade to the current version of Mailman. I now notice that on the list archive home pages where it states Note: The archive search index was last rebuilt ... that the date has not changed since the update. Lists created after the upgrade to 2.1.1 state: The archive search index was last rebuilt at [has yet to be built for this new list]. Archives are being indexed but the date indicating when the archive was last search index is not. Has anyone else seen this? Paul -- Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Harvesting addresses
That seems to work in some but not all cases for me. Where can I find the grammar for the /[^+ stuff so I can fiddle with it myself. Is there a URL? Remember, I am clueless - except for my paranoia... At 12:50 PM + 2/15/03, Richard Barrett wrote: At 11:38 15/02/2003, Paul Kleeberg wrote: I like the way that mailman changes e-mail addresses so that they cannot be automatically harvested by spammers, but I am concerned by the fact that a lists entire archive can be downloaded. I want to have an open list but I am a bit uncomfortable with allowing the entire archive to be retrieved (with intact e-mail addresses) with a single click of the mouse. Has anyone created a patch to remove the downloadable versions? Am I just being paranoid? Paul -- Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] I quick and simple non-patch fix is to put a rewrite rule into you web server's httpd.conf that rewrites the URI's of the files you are concerned about to a polite rejection page. That is what I've opted to do with RewriteRules like this: RewriteRule ^(/pipermail/[^/]+)/(pipermail\.pck|htdig(|/[^/]*)|.*\.(txt|txt\.gz))$ $1/unavailable.html [R] RewriteRule ^(/pipermail/[^/\.]+)\.mbox/ $1/unavailable.html [R] Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean people aren't picking on you. -- Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Building a patch file
Could anyone direct me to instructions on how to build a patch file for the totally clueless? I want to be able to modify the way all the english html pages appear (which I did successfully once) but I would like to do it as a patch so it is easy to redo as necessary. Paul -- Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Configuring mailman for a future domain name
Well I just decided to try it: From within the directory where I unpacked the tarball: ./configure --prefix=/var/mailman --with-cgi-gid=apache --with-mail-gid=mail --with-mailhost=fpen.org --with-urlhost=lists.fpen.org then make install and it appears to have worked. Default.py has the future URLs in it. I could not find documentation for --with-mailhost or --with-urlhost in section 2 of the INSTALL file or anywhere else. I agree with you. I do not think it wise to edit the Defaults.py file but the above process looked like it might be more orthodox. I'll let you know if I encounter problems. Paul At 11:06 PM -0500 2/10/03, Matthew Davis wrote: * Paul Kleeberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: What you say is correct but won't that put a legacy URL into Default.py whereas if I used the (undocumented?) parameters below, would it build Default.py with the correct URLs and therefore eliminate the necessity to add the entry to mm_cfg.py? I suppose I should just shut-up and try it and see what happens... That's correct. By not modifing Defaults.py you put a 'legacy' url in there so its posed to confuse the next admin that takes your place (heaven forbid...). But I believe thoes are there for example purporses, and your not lucky enough to have the 'defaults' work. You can edit Defaults.py, I personally see no harm in it other than it'll break future source patches and maybe you'll forget working syntex's if you mess something up. But that's nothing that can't be solved by refering back to the Defaults.py in the tarball. -- Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Configuring mailman for a future domain name
What you say is correct but won't that put a legacy URL into Default.py whereas if I used the (undocumented?) parameters below, would it build Default.py with the correct URLs and therefore eliminate the necessity to add the entry to mm_cfg.py? I suppose I should just shut-up and try it and see what happens... At 9:23 PM -0500 2/9/03, Matthew Davis wrote: After installation look at the DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST section in Mailman/Defaults.py But as the top of the file says, don't make changes there, make them to mm_cfg.py. So you might want to add this to your mm_cfg.py DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = lists.domain But read on in that file and see if there are anymore option of interest to you. * Paul Kleeberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I am installing Mailman on my production machine. I want it to install with the same name as another machine where my lists are currently running with listproc. In other words I am installing it on www.domain but I want the Mailman pages to be known as (and return the name) lists.domain which currently exists on a different box. How do I do this? Do I define it when running configure? I do not see that as an option in the INSTALL file but I see --with-urlhost and --with-mailhost in the configure file. -- Matthew Davis http://dogpound.vnet.net/ Truck Pulls: for people who cannot understand the WWF -- Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Trouble getting htdig to work
Well it may look like it will be out with the new and in with the old. What is interesting is that RedHat lists the file as htdig-3.2.0-7.20020505 - not a mention of the beta term. Must have been a typo by someone with bad eyesight who typed -7 instead of b4 ;-) Now does that also mean I would have to replace htdig-web since it has the same release numbers on the RedHat site as htdig? (I cannot seem find them on the web.) What is also interesting is that it appears that RedHat used htdig-3.2b3 and then b4 to index the KDE help files in release 7.1 but not 7.2. Might they have stabilized it or is that against the rules without sharing that stabilization? I think I keep playing with it for now. Haven't gone production yet. Paul At 12:17 PM -0500 2/9/03, Jon Carnes wrote: Having been through this recently at a site I help out on, I can attest that for us, the drop back to HTDig 3.1.6 (away from the 3.2.b4) was well worth the effort. [...] It's interesting that Red Hat should push the beta out on a production release. I found it to be of less than production quality and highly recommend that you remove v3.2.b4 and install v3.1.6 of HTDig. [...] On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 19:53, Paul Kleeberg wrote: Just so you know, it is in the standard everything install of the cheapest CD version of 8.0 but looking at the bottom of the search result page on my newly htdigged site, I see: ht://Dig 3.2.0b4-20020505 -- Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Configuring mailman for a future domain name
I am installing Mailman on my production machine. I want it to install with the same name as another machine where my lists are currently running with listproc. In other words I am installing it on www.domain but I want the Mailman pages to be known as (and return the name) lists.domain which currently exists on a different box. How do I do this? Do I define it when running configure? I do not see that as an option in the INSTALL file but I see --with-urlhost and --with-mailhost in the configure file. Paul -- Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Trouble getting htdig to work
Hooray! (And thank you) It works! ...but there is still a troubling message... At 6:23 PM + 2/8/03, Richard Barrett wrote: At 16:53 08/02/2003, Paul Kleeberg wrote: I am attempting to get htdig to work on a RedHat 8.0 system with Apache 2.0, htdig 3.2.0 and Mailman 2.1 [install steps deleted. PK] and then ran the indexing engine: /var/mailman/cron/nightly_htdig -v and I get: /usr/bin/rundig: line 48: 1104 Aborted $BINDIR/htnotify $opts htfuzzy: Unable to open word database /var/lib/htdig/db.words.db but I would think htfuzzy should look in: /var/mailman/archives/private/listname/htdig/db.words.db Have you checked out the section under heading htdig Permissions Considerations[...] Guilty as charged. I confess my eyes glazed over and assumed that these would be correct given they were part of the RedHat RPMs. Permissions corrected and the installation showed me a warning I had not seen before in between the two lines that appeared once again: htdig'ing archive of list: listname /usr/bin/rundig: line 48: 1425 Aborted $BINDIR/htnotify $opts Warning: The following is a lengthly process, but it is run only the first time you start ht://Dig. Initializing database... Warning: The following is a lengthly process, but it is run only the first time you start ht://Dig. Initializing database... htfuzzy: Unable to open word database /var/lib/htdig/db.words.db Still that odd error. Searching for the db.words.db file, I find: /var/mailman/archives/private/listname/htdig/db.words.db /var/mailman/archives/private/listname/htdig/db.words.db_weakcmpr but the search appears to work and it appears to fuzzify it finding fancy or fancied or fancying or fanciness or fancier or fancies or fanciest or fanciers when searching fancy In addition, when I look at the source for the search form on an archive page I see form method=post action=/cgi-bin/htsearch. But on my system, htsearch exists in /usr/bin. [...] If all else fails, as root, copy htsearch into the web server's cgi-bin directory and make sure that it readable and excutable but not writable by owner, group and other. I did what you said it appears to work. However, since I continually update my system with the RedHat up2date program, I do not like having two copies of an executable unless it is necessary. I know there is a way I can alias it from the cgi-bin directory and still have it executable even though it is outside the cgi directory blessed by apache but I have to look that one up (unless someone can tell me) :-/ I'm pretty inexperienced in all this. Should I just live with the db.words.db issue? Will it matter? Thanks for your work. This looks great. Paul -- Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Trouble getting htdig to work
At 11:19 PM + 2/8/03, Richard Barrett wrote: At 22:57 08/02/2003, Paul Kleeberg wrote: Hooray! (And thank you) It works! ...but there is still a troubling message... htdig'ing archive of list: listname /usr/bin/rundig: line 48: 1425 Aborted $BINDIR/htnotify $opts Warning: The following is a lengthly process, but it is run only the first time you start ht://Dig. Initializing database... Warning: The following is a lengthly process, but it is run only the first time you start ht://Dig. Initializing database... htfuzzy: Unable to open word database /var/lib/htdig/db.words.db Still that odd error. Searching for the db.words.db file, I find: /var/mailman/archives/private/listname/htdig/db.words.db /var/mailman/archives/private/listname/htdig/db.words.db_weakcmpr [...] Should I just live with the db.words.db issue? Will it matter? This may be an htdig version related issue. The testing I did was with the 'production' htdig 3.1.6; that's what I am running on my 'production' system. On checking the htdig.org web site, htdig 3.2 still seems to be at beta status. But it appears from what you say that Redhat are including it as a 'production' RPM. Looking at the information page for htfuzzy http://www.htdig.org/htfuzzy.html it appears it can be instructed to use a specified configuration file instead of the default. I suspect that would solve the above problem. It appears it uses htdig.conf instead of the list-specific config files found in htdig-mailman where database_dir: /var/mailman/archives/private/listname/htdig Just so you know, it is in the standard everything install of the cheapest CD version of 8.0 but looking at the bottom of the search result page on my newly htdigged site, I see: ht://Dig 3.2.0b4-20020505 Clearly beta. Paul -- Paul Kleeberg, M.D. O o [EMAIL PROTECTED] Family Physicians' E-Net-+---+- Voice: 612-840-3744 5025 Mulcare Drive |_o_| Family Practice Columbia Heights, MN 55421 USA / \|/ \ Information Services -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Site-wide header in HTML pages
I asked this one a while back but am still having trouble. I would like a header to appear at the top of all the HTML pages. I have gone into mailman/templates/en and modified the following: archidxhead.html archtoc.html listinfo.html article.html emptyarchive.html admlogin.html options.html private.html roster.html subscribe.html But there are still pages that I cannot seem to change. I recognize that some will only appear if the page is created after the above have been modified. Pages that have not changed for example are: http://site/mailman/admin/listname[/any-directory] http://site/mailman/listinfo My skills are marginal at best so forgive my ignorance. Paul -- Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Site-wide header in HTML pages
I found the answer and thought I would share it with the group. There are three other files that require modification in the mailman/Mailman/Cgy directory: admin.py listinfo.py admindb.py I am not sure if I can tell you what I did besides doing a multi-file search in mailman for key phrases found on the offending pages and then tinkered with the above files until the results looked good (restarting mailman after each modification). If anyone is interested I could send you the above files - the changes are marked. I am sure there is a better way to do this but at least this works. Paul At 6:47 AM -0600 2/1/03, Paul Kleeberg wrote: I asked this one a while back but am still having trouble. I would like a header to appear at the top of all the HTML pages. I have gone into mailman/templates/en and modified the following: archidxhead.html archtoc.html listinfo.html article.html emptyarchive.html admlogin.html options.html private.html roster.html subscribe.html But there are still pages that I cannot seem to change. I recognize that some will only appear if the page is created after the above have been modified. Pages that have not changed for example are: http://site/mailman/admin/listname[/any-directory] http://site/mailman/listinfo My skills are marginal at best so forgive my ignorance. -- Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Site-Wide list
Could someone help me understand the purpose for creating the site-wide list titled Mailman? From the INSTALL instructions, end of section 4: - Create a site-wide mailing list. This is the one that password reminders will appear to come from. Usually this should be the mailman mailing list, but if you need to change this, be sure to change the MAILMAN_SITE_LIST variable in mm_cfg.py (see below). % bin/newlist mailman Follow the prompts, and see the README file for more information. - You should then subscribe yourself to the mailman list. I could not find more info about this in the read-me file or in the documentation. I assume: * I hide the list * Use the umbrella list settings to have the password reminders sent to the owner Is there more I should know? Do I need to use this list for anything? I am starting from scratch from 2.1 and have not used another version of Mailman before. Paul -- Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Site-wide header on HTML pages
I would like to put a site-wide header on all the HTML pages. I discovered how to do that for an uncustomized listinfo page by going to mailman/templates/en/listinfo.html but I cannot seem to change the appearance of the archive pages. Is there documentation on this somewhere? Paul -- Paul Kleeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Help with a regular expression
I know this is a simple question but I don't have the knowledge to figure it out. I am running RedHat 8.0 and which came with Mailman 2.0.13. It suggests adding the following to the httpd.conf file: # Uncomment the following line, replacing www.example.com with your server's # name, to redirect queries to /mailman to the listinfo page (recommended). # RedirectMatch /mailman[/]*$ http://www.example.com/mailman/listinfo That used to work fine. I just upgraded to Mailman 2.1. I created the list mailman as instructed at the end of section 4 of the INSTALL document but cannot get to the administrative page http://www.example.com/mailman/admin/mailman or the list overview page http://www.example.com/mailman/listinfo/mailman because RedirectMatch thinks it is http://www.example.com/mailman and just redirects it the top level listinfo page. I am aware that I have two options: 1. Rename the mailman list 2. Remove the RedirectMatch statement from the httpd.conf file. Is there a third? I tried fiddling with the regular expression, but I just do not know what I am doing. Any help would be appreciated. Paul -- Paul Kleeberg, M.D. O o [EMAIL PROTECTED] Family Physicians' E-Net-+---+- Voice: 612-840-3744 5025 Mulcare Drive |_o_| Family Practice Columbia Heights, MN 55421 USA / \|/ \ Information Services -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
