Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with abusive user...
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:35:41 -0400 Tom Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trent Fisher wrote: I have a big problem, and I am hoping someone here has some advice... I have a person on my mailing list who has been very abusive, but has recently taken a turn to the creepy (I would call it cyberstalking), and so I have been trying to eject him from the list. snip snip No matter what you need to contact his ISP and get them to do something and you need to not be nice about it. ISPs won't take the risk of legal action being brought against them and will generally remove the customer from their services. Let me know what happens. I've been in a similar situation. I'd certainly follow the advice of Tom. In the meantime I'd put the list on full moderation. If it's a large list with lots of traffic, enlist the help of some trustworthy members who can help moderate. Arrange with those people on the QT, then send an email to members explaining the situation (without details), then set to full moderation and deal with the problem child. Once it's all been dealt with, remove moderation and thank everyone for their cooperation. Whatever you do may cause some people to leave your list. But, it's a much better alternative than to allow this person to totally destroy what you've worked so hard to create ... a community of like-minded people. -- Raquel When you're finally up on the moon, looking back at the earth, all these differences and nationalistic traits are pretty well going to blend and you're going to get a concept that maybe this is really one world and why the Hell can't we learn to live together like decent people? --Frank Borman, American astronaut -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Archives
I've searched the FAQ and cannot find the answer to a problem I'm having. I have Mailman 2.1.5 installed on a server running Debian Sarge. All the lists work wonderfully, except for archives, or more correctly, access to the archives. The archives are created but they cannot be accessed because the appropriate archive variables don't seem to be picked up from Defaults.py or mm_cfg.py, or they don't seem to exist. Any pointer in the right direction would be terribly appreciated. Thanks. -- Raquel A man cannot utter words or sentences without disclosing to intelligent ears precisely where he stands in life and thought. --Ralph Waldo Emerson pgpWdwiDnDOK6.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 10:56:58 -0800 Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raquel Rice wrote: I have Mailman 2.1.5 installed on a server running Debian Sarge.=20 All the lists work wonderfully, except for archives, or more correctly, access to the archives. The archives are created but they cannot be accessed because the appropriate archive variables don't seem to be picked up from Defaults.py or mm_cfg.py, or they don't seem to exist. Any pointer in the right direction would be terribly appreciated. Thanks. Please give us more information. I.e. what specific URLs don't work? On what pages do you find these URLs? What are the specific archive variables that aren't picked up, and where do you expect to see them, and what do you see instead? Also note that for any 'pipermail' URL to work, you need to have an appropriate alias or redirect in your web server. -- On the list info page, http://lists.thericehouse.net/mailman/listinfo/myfriends , this is where the link MyFriends Archives points: http://lists.thericehouse.net/mailman/private/myfriends/ rather than to: http://lists.thericehouse.net/pipermail/myfriends/ From httpd.conf: ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/ Directory /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/ AllowOverride None Options +ExecCGI Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory Alias /pipermail/ /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/ -- Raquel A man cannot utter words or sentences without disclosing to intelligent ears precisely where he stands in life and thought. --Ralph Waldo Emerson pgpGfbZjm5JaI.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 13:19:21 -0600 Dan Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 21, 2005, at 1:12 PM, Raquel Rice wrote: On the list info page, http://lists.thericehouse.net/mailman/listinfo/myfriends , this is where the link MyFriends Archives points: http://lists.thericehouse.net/mailman/private/myfriends/ rather than to: http://lists.thericehouse.net/pipermail/myfriends/ From httpd.conf: ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/ Directory /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/ AllowOverride None Options +ExecCGI Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory Alias /pipermail/ /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/ This is correct for private archives. To set them to public (and give the RUL you're expecting), go to http://lists.thericehouse.net/ mailman/admin/myfriends/archive and select the public radio button under archiving options. Dan But these were supposed to be private archives. -- Raquel A man cannot utter words or sentences without disclosing to intelligent ears precisely where he stands in life and thought. --Ralph Waldo Emerson pgpPIXu1hFidy.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 13:19:21 -0600 Dan Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 21, 2005, at 1:12 PM, Raquel Rice wrote: On the list info page, http://lists.thericehouse.net/mailman/listinfo/myfriends , this is where the link MyFriends Archives points: http://lists.thericehouse.net/mailman/private/myfriends/ rather than to: http://lists.thericehouse.net/pipermail/myfriends/ From httpd.conf: snip Alias /pipermail/ /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/ This is correct for private archives. To set them to public (and give the RUL you're expecting), go to http://lists.thericehouse.net/ mailman/admin/myfriends/archive and select the public radio button under archiving options. Dan From what I can see, the problem isn't in httpd.conf because the proper URL, including /pipermail/ isn't being sent to the page. Looking at Defaults.py, I see this variable set: PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = 'http://%(hostname)s/pipermail/%(listname)s' But I see nothing set for a private archive. Is there such a variable for a private archive? If so, what is it? Or am I way off-base? -- Raquel A man cannot utter words or sentences without disclosing to intelligent ears precisely where he stands in life and thought. --Ralph Waldo Emerson pgpbqGDA8bXKX.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 11:50:10 -0800 Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raquel Rice wrote: But these were supposed to be private archives. If the archives are supposed to be private, you should be accessing them via the http://lists.thericehouse.net/mailman/private/myfriends/ url and not via the http://lists.thericehouse.net/pipermail/myfriends/ link which is ONLY for public archives. As I said in my other reply, by aliasing 'pipermail' to the 'private' directory rather than 'public', you are enabling access to all your archives without going through private archive validation. -- Mark Sapiro And therein lies the problem. The problem is that the URL http://lists.thericehouse.net/mailman/private/myfriends/ doesn't go anywhere. All I get is my web server 404 page. -- Raquel A man cannot utter words or sentences without disclosing to intelligent ears precisely where he stands in life and thought. --Ralph Waldo Emerson pgpvfCVLLH9sw.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 13:51:14 -0600 Dan Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://lists.thericehouse.net/mailman/private/myfriends/ IS the correct URL for private archives. Dan And that's the problem. It goes nowhere. -- Raquel A man cannot utter words or sentences without disclosing to intelligent ears precisely where he stands in life and thought. --Ralph Waldo Emerson pgpdSfeW9EHSU.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 12:18:35 -0800 Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raquel Rice wrote: And therein lies the problem. The problem is that the URL http://lists.thericehouse.net/mailman/private/myfriends/ doesn't go anywhere. All I get is my web server 404 page. Well, I don't get exactly that, but I see something is wrong. If I go to http://lists.thericehouse.net/pipermail/myfriends/, I get your (currently empty archive). This is not what you want - you want the archive to be private so I go to the private archive validation page. Thus, you MUST change your 'pipermail' alias to point to the 'public' directory. If I go to http://lists.thericehouse.net/mailman/private/myfriends/ I get redirected to http://dev.thericehouse.net/offline.html which is clearly not right. I should go to the cgi-bin/private wrapper. However, if I go to http://lists.thericehouse.net/mailman/listinfo/myfriends/ or http://lists.thericehouse.net/mailman/admin/myfriends/ I get the expected listinfo and admin login pages so the cgi-bin wrappers are working in general. So, do you have a 'private' wrapper in your /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/ directory? If not, it should be there. If so, and if there's nothing mangled about it or its permissions, there must be something in your Apache config that's intercepting this URL and preventing it from working as it should. -- Mark Sapiro I do have a file named private.bad in the cgi-bin directory. I have no idea why it's named that way. (in other words, I didn't do it) -- Raquel All life is an experiment. The more experiments you make the better. --Ralph Waldo Emerson pgprQh7wVij0F.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 12:38:13 -0800 Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raquel Rice wrote: I do have a file named private.bad in the cgi-bin directory. I have no idea why it's named that way. (in other words, I didn't do it) How did you install Mailman? If you installed from source and you still have the directory you ran configure and make in, what is in the src/ sub-directory? And were there any errors from 'make install'? You could just try running make install make.log (it shouldn't hurt to do it again) so that you see only errors and warnings. If you didn't install from source, of course this doesn't help. Also, is the modification date on private.bad the same as the others in cgi-bin? If there is a 'private' in the src/ directory, how does it compare to 'private.bad'. You could just try mv private.bad private and see what happens. -- Mark Sapiro This is installed on Debian Sarge, from the package list. All the files in the cgi-bin have the same mod date time. I believe that it's the compiled code (which probably means the maintainer) thought there was a problem with private? There doesn't seem to be any package documentation (README files, change logs, etc) installed with it either. It seems to me that the problem lies with the Debian maintainer of Mailman. Thank you for helping me to see past the symptoms. I wonder what would happen if I just renamed private.bad to private? -- Raquel All life is an experiment. The more experiments you make the better. --Ralph Waldo Emerson pgp8LvlH0wJbx.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] [FIXED] Re: Archives
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 10:04:31 -0800 Raquel Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've searched the FAQ and cannot find the answer to a problem I'm having. I have Mailman 2.1.5 installed on a server running Debian Sarge. All the lists work wonderfully, except for archives, or more correctly, access to the archives. The archives are created but they cannot be accessed because the appropriate archive variables don't seem to be picked up from Defaults.py or mm_cfg.py, or they don't seem to exist. Any pointer in the right direction would be terribly appreciated. Thanks. -- Raquel Thank you for your help, Mark and Dan. After I got to poking around, I realized that it wasn't a Debian package install. So installed a new version and got rid of the old installation. Everything seems to be working well now. Thanks again! -- Raquel All life is an experiment. The more experiments you make the better. --Ralph Waldo Emerson pgpoyOUkMP1xJ.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Too many, period.
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 20:47:15 -0500 Kevin McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I the only one who has received about 20 messages identical to the one below? If not, is there a list admin for this list who can disable her subscription? Thanks, Kevin I'm ready to blacklist him! -- Raquel Yearn to understand first and to be understood second. --Beca Lewis Allen -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman vs bcc
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:08:01 +0100 Ian Eiloart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --On Thursday, August 26, 2004 5:28 pm +0200 Jacob Friis Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can mailman send mail just as fast as if I send 1 mail to 1000 addresses in bcc, assuming that the mta accepts 1000? Thanks, Jacob No, but it should be plenty fast enough. And more reliable. And using Mailman, the people who are getting your emails can stop getting them if they wish. -- Raquel What worries you masters you. --Haddon W. Robinson -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] reliable python 2.3.3 or 2.3.4 backport?
On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 09:24:47 -0400 Jeff Garvas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, I've determined that the problems I'm having with Mailman now are related to the fact that I have Python 2.3.2 running in Debian (woody). Moderated messages keep erroring into logs/error about True not being defined. Does anyone here know of any reliable Python 2.3.3 or 2.3.4 backports that I can use in my debian install? I've combed the net looking for this and I have run into brick walls and discussion lists where someone said there is one available but never mentioned where. I found something in the wee hours and installed it only to learn that 2.3.2 is just not cutting it. Surely someone on this list has found one if it exists, right? :-) I am starting to question my decision to use stable vs. unstable since so many applications require me to break the rules to make recent versions of applications run. -Jeff Hi Jeff, I'm running Woody on the server. I've also installed Mailman 2.1.5, with Sendmail. My version of Python is 2.2.1-4.3. Because I use Sendmail rather that Exim, I couldn't get a working list server using .deb files. So, I installed Python using aptitude and then installed Mailman from source in /usr/local/mailman. It works wonderfully. No need to go to a Python backport. -- Raquel Believe that life is worth living and your belief will create the fact. --William James -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] (no subject)
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:18:45 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to unsubscribe rgds lanismygirl -- It would probably be a good idea to follow the instructions at the bottom of all the list posts then. -- Raquel What is hateful you do not do to your neighbor: that is the whole Torah. --Shammai -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderator Emails
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:18:17 -0800 Stevo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Guys, Got another question... I've set myself up as a moderator and I'm moderating all the emails sent to the list as well as people joining and leaving the list. The issue is that I'm not getting any emails letting me know these things are happening?? Did I miss something somewhere?! --Stevo How are we to know if we don't know anything about your system or your settings? -- Raquel The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas at the same time, and still retain the ability to function. --F. Scott Fitzgerald -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailinglists for multiple domains on one server
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:27:34 +0100 Johan Barelds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, nice discussion..:-) My conclusion so far: upgrade to 2.1 and use the add_virtualhost in mm_cfg.py. Does this also mean that you can use the same listname for different virtual domains? (e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Grz. Johan My understanding is that the answer to your question is No. -- Raquel In real love you want the other person's good. In romantic love you want the other person. --Margaret Anderson -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailinglists for multiple domains on one server
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:51:11 -0700 Richard B. Pyne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16 Jan 2003 at 8:41, Raquel Rice wrote: On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:24:31 -0700 Richard B. Pyne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using 2.1... I still have not found a way to set the list's preferred domain until after the list is created. Please, show me where in the newlist script or the create cgi you can set the domain for the list! --Richard Have you read the comments in Defaults.py for using add_virtualhost() in mm_cfg.py? The domain is set when the list is created using newlist and the proper email is sent to the listowner address specified in newlist. -- Raquel Eating (a very small piece of) humble pie After I sent my reply, I did find the notes in bin/newlist telling how to specify the domain as part of the list name (i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]). However, the create cgi will not permit including the @dom.ain in the list name and therefore defaults to the default domain (which mailman appears to allow only to be the domain listed in the PTR dns record for the IP address of the machine). --Richard And I bring you back, once again, to add_virtualhost(). -- Raquel It is hard to fight an enemy who has outposts in your head. --Sally Kempton -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailinglists for multiple domains on one server
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:19:18 -0700 Richard B. Pyne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another very small slice of humble pie... I had my mm_cfg.py file: DEFAULT_URL_HOST=lists.kinfolk.org DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST=lists.kinfolk.org add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) Had to change them to: DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.kinfolk.org' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.kinfolk.org' add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) I guess I'm too used to http.conf files where almost nothing needs to be quoted. HOWEVER... From the web interface: Error: List name must not include @: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (yes, 71bruins.org IS listed as a virtual host) --Richard I do it all the time. I regulary set up new lists on the various hosts and the new list email goes to the new owner. So, I wonder what you're doing? Me? ## In Defaults.py DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'raquel.yellowline.com' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'raquel.yellowline.com' ## In mm_cfg.py add_virtualhost(lists.thericehouse.net, lists.thericehouse.net) add_virtualhost(lists.yellowline.com, lists.yellowline.com) add_virtualhost(lists.waveelectrology.com, lists.waveelectrology.com) add_virtualhost(lists.campaignfortolerance.org, lists.campaignfortolerance.org) (sorry for wrapping problems) -- Raquel It is hard to fight an enemy who has outposts in your head. --Sally Kempton -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailinglists for multiple domains on one server
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:07:03 -0700 Richard B. Pyne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, except it does not have the ability to set the domain at or before the time of list creation. If you want to do it in a true virtual hosting manner, you need to send the listowner notification email to yourself when you create the list. You can then log in to the admin interface, set the domain, and then edit and forward the listowner notification email. --Richard Perhaps you should upgrade to 2.1? -- Raquel You can have anything you want - if you want it badly enough. You can be anything you want to be, do anything you set out to accomplish if you hold to that desire with singleness of purpose. --Abraham Lincoln -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem using newlist
On Wed, 08 Jan 2003 16:43:47 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jean Berthold) wrote: Illegal list name: test@atlanta $ Do I need to specify an URL like www in my Defaults.py or can I keep this current configuration: # because otherwise the default mappings won't be correct. DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'atlanta' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'atlanta' DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/' I cannot found where is my error, could you help me ? Thanks by advance and have a nice day Jean, I believe you need to provide an FQDN: atlanta.eos.elro -- Raquel One is not born a woman, one becomes one. --Simone de Beauvoir -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL subscriber bounces
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003 12:13:23 -0500 Bob Puff@NLE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed that a few of my list subscribers are using AOL's functions to block email from certain senders, who are on my lists. So as a list admin, I get all these AOL bounces. Is there a simple script that can be used to direct these nastygrams bacl to their AOL user, so that the user can get nagged instead of me? The message looks something like: FROM: Mail Delivery Subsystem TO: list-admin Your message was not delivered because the user is not accepting mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] aolusername Note that the aolusername isn't followed by @aol.com, like it should be, to be parsed as a bounce. Bob If it was my list, I would just write the AOL users and ask them to remove the block, and if they don't you'll have to unsubscribe them. -- Raquel One is not born a woman, one becomes one. --Simone de Beauvoir -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to use...
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 14:36:58 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Alan South [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings! I was interested in using Mailman. I assume this needs to be installed on a server? So if I as an individual user had so much web space through my local ISP, I could install it in that space and start to use the program? Many thanks! Alan Only if you have root access on the server. Your ISP could install it and make the necessary changes for you when they're needed, and possibly charge extra for it. -- Raquel One is not born a woman, one becomes one. --Simone de Beauvoir -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mistake
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003 16:06:09 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I signed up for mailman user by mistake. I need to know how to unsubscribe. Please Help! I don't suppose you'd consider looking at the bottom of every post that comes from the list? -- Raquel We gain strength, and courage, and confidence by each experience in which we really stop to look fear in the face... we must do that which we cannot. --Eleanor Roosevelt -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Question about Mailman !!
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 12:46:12 -0600 Paul H Byerly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erich Fuchs wrote: the only idea i have is to do a parallel installation of Python 2.2.2 - and point MailMan to this installation - but i'm NOT sure about this ! it's also a little dangerous and timecomsuming task (expect 2-3 hours) - and i did't want to break your servers config !!! I am also looking at having to do this, and would love to hear from anyone who has done it. You are correct that updating Python will trash Ensim. My Ensim has two versions of Python (neither is high enough) and I can point things to the other one just fine - so it is possible to have two installations. Now I just need to figure out how to install a second version without messing with the other ones. Paul It's been so long since I installed a new version of Python, so I don't remember it all. However, it seems that in the ./config there's an option to place the new installation somewhere other than over the old installation. Have you tried reading the Build Instructions in the README file? Reading instructions is good. -- Raquel The greatest and noblest pleasure which we have in this world is to discover new truths, and the next is to shake off old prejudices. --Frederick II, the Great -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP! Getting different Import Error:python2.2/lib-dynload/_socket.so: bad ELF flags value: 256
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 11:09:33 -0500 (EST) Steve Rifkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: root@sun(~) python -V Python 2.1 root@sun(~) It probably really doesn't matter, but I have Mailman running on Python 2.2.1 -- Raquel Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally. --Abraham Lincoln -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: HELP, PLEASE: server name in admin messages
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 16:39:26 -0300 Marcelo Assis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 2:34 PM I assume you are using Mailman version 2.0.x... It's Mailman 2.1b3... Also, if you are using Sendmail, you should consider changing your MTA over to Postfix which also makes handling virtual hosts much easier. We're using Exim v3.36... Basically we can access everything by each virtual host name, but it seems that in Mailman we cannot switch wich hostname is included in the URLs that Mailman sends out in his email messages. Is that right, or should that work. We need to support at least 4 hostnames, so changing the primary machine hostname is not an option. Thanks for any input! Have you read the information in Defaults.py? Specifically the information relating to virtual hosts and, You use 'add_virtualhost(urlqdn, emailfqdn)' to add new mappings.? -- Raquel All progress has resulted from people who took unpopular positions. --Adlai E. Stevenson -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] non-wrapping mail in Pipermail archive
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 16:35:10 + David Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've looked in the FAQs I see some mails don't wrap when viewed in my Pipermail archive. I have one which is from a Yahoo user. No doubt that's the problem! My messages are run through StripMime to remove HTML and attachments. The Yahoo mail reported... --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- Obviously the remaining plain text wasn't set to wrap and so the archive page has to be scrolled right to read the message. A real pain! How can I deal with this? Is there another script somewhere I can use to force messages like this one to wrap at a given character count? Do other archives (MHonArc?) deal with this problem better? Mailman 2.0.13 user BTW. Thanks -- David Gordon Try to force all your users to use mail clients which wrap at 72 characters? -- Raquel Rarely do we find men who willingly engage in hard, solid thinking. There is an almost universal quest for easy answers and half-baked solutions. Nothing pains some people more than having to think. --Martin Luther King, Jr. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] easy unsubscribe links in emails
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 01:01:34 +0530 Saurabh Shah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear mailman team, First of all I would like to show my appreciation for you making such a good software. Mailman is really impressive and powerful. But I do not know if the following feature is available in mailman: If we want to provide unsubscribe option to mailing list members through replying of the mail and they just type unsubscribe in the subject -- how is this possible in mailman? Also is there any link which we can provide to directly unsubscribe? Please do let me know because without easy unsubscribe links mailing-lists would not be 100% complete. Thanks and regards, saurabh Open up the headers of this message from the list. An unsubscribe link is given. -- Raquel Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. --Will Rogers -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Demime and Stripmime
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 10:52:48 -0800 Karin Zirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone tried using Demime or Stripmime to deal remove the AOL HTML portion of the email message? Karin No. I use MM 2.1b3 which stips it without need for the other tools. -- Raquel Listen to your heartbeat, to know and harness your drum major instinct, to find where you are called in your life to be an extremist in the brotherhood of humanity, to develop dangerous unselfishness, to live a committed life, to be great in service and to find the Dr. King in you. --Judge Judith Hightower -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] :include: type list in Mailman -- ie, use text file for list members?
On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:36:02 -0800 NOW Website Coordinator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't find a place, or an answer in the FAQ or the mailing list archives, of how to get Mailman to use an external file for a list. Ie, a list with email addresses one on a line. Is this possible or not at all? Sarah Stapleton-Gray I don't know that it's available using 2.0.*. However, I know that it is possible using 2.1*, at least using the web interface. -- Raquel Nothing that I can do will change the structure of the universe. But maybe, by raising my voice, I can help the greatest of all causes - goodwill among men and peace on earth. --Albert Einstein -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1b3 changing existing domain (fwd)
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 19:21:47 -0400 (EDT) Fuzzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [repost] application version --- --- mailman 2.1b3 python2.2.1 apache1.3.23 sendmail 8.11.6 I have some lists that migated to a virtual domain, (both Apache and Sendmail, virtual name based domains). I changed the host name this list prefers email to the virtual domain, and modified the virtusers table to route incoming mail to the the mailman aliases. Mailman now uses the correct virtual domain in email, and for mailto: URLs, but still uses the original domain in http:// URLs (the RFC2369 headers and the footer that MM adds to the post). How do I convince MM to use to use the correct virtual domains? I can get to both the admin and the listinfo pages using either domain (the real or the virtual). While I was logged in to the listinfo pages, I asked MM to tell me what mailing lists I was in, (it listed the ones in the virtual domain only). MM seems to know what address is on which list at what domain. I guess I missed a setting someplace? You need to take care of this in mm_cfg, using add_virtualhost(). The syntax can be found in Defaults.py. Once your virtual hosts are added there, it will work properly. -- Raquel First keep the peace within yourself, then you can also bring peace to others. --Thomas A Kempis -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1b3 changing existing domain
On Sat, 5 Oct 2002 13:24:58 -0400 (EDT) Fuzzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: application version --- --- mailman 2.1b3 python2.2.1 apache1.3.23 sendmail 8.11.6 I have some lists that migated to a virtual domain, (both Apache and Sendmail, virtual name based domains). I changed the host name this list prefers email to the virtual domain, and modified the virtusers table to route incoming mail to the the mailman aliases. Mailman now uses the correct virtual domain in email, and for mailto: URLs, but still uses the original domain in http:// URLs (the RFC2369 headers and the footer that MM adds to the post). How do I convince MM to use to use the correct virtual domains? I can get to both the admin and the listinfo pages using either domain (the real or the virtual). While I was logged in to the listinfo pages, I asked MM to tell me what mailing lists I was in, (it listed the ones in the virtual domain only). MM seems to know what address is on which list at what domain. I guess I missed a setting someplace? You need to take care of this in mm_cfg, using add_virtualhost(). The syntax can be found in Defaults.py. Once your virtual hosts are added there, it will work properly. -- Raquel We must learn to live together as brothers or perish together as fools. --Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] How can I rename a list?
On 01 Oct 2002 01:21:07 +0200 Ander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I would like to know if the is a way to rename a list. Thanks My suggestion would be newlist, use /bin/move_list and then, rmlist the old list. -- Raquel Follow the path of the unsafe, independent thinker. Expose your ideas to the dangers of controversy. Speak your mind and fear less the label of 'crackpot' than the stigma of conformity. And on issues that seem important to you, stand up and be counted at any cost. --Thomas J. Watson -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Red Hat 7.3
On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 02:33:35 +0200 Pontus Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I'm trying to setup Mailman on Red Hat 7.3. Everythings seems to be OK until I run the newlist command. Shouldn't that command update the /etc/aliases file? Well, it doesn't... Any ideas? /Pontus No. Newlist does not update the command. You have to login as root and update the /etc/aliases file and then run newaliases as root. -- Raquel Whoever kindles the flames of intolerance is lighting a fire underneath his own home. --Harrold Stassen -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Thanks...
On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 03:08:48 +0200 Pontus Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, now I know that I have to update /etc/aliases by myself... Thanks to everyon!!! When I now start a new list I get a message back... message You can configure your mailing list at the following web page: http://localhost.localdomain/mailman/admin/skansen The web page for users of your mailing list is: http://localhost.localdomain/mailman/listinfo/skansen end How do I tell Mailman that my domain name is se.homelinux.org? What version are you using? -- Raquel Whoever kindles the flames of intolerance is lighting a fire underneath his own home. --Harrold Stassen -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Beta upgrade FAQ or How-To?
On Tue, 01 Oct 2002 19:39:01 -0700 G. Armour Van Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I've spent four or five hours trying to figure out how to get Python 2.2.1 installed with no success at all. Every attempt is met with a long string of unmet dependencies. If I have to upgrade the blasted machine from RedHat 6.2, which works perfectly well in this context, in order to move forware with MailMan I'm going to have to rethink the whole idea. I did find a RedHat 6.2 RPM for Python, but reports: error: failed dependencies: libcrypto.so.2 is needed by python2-2.2.1-1 libexpat.so.0 is needed by python2-2.2.1-1 libssl.so.2 is needed by python2-2.2.1-1 Are those likely to be in one of the other Python RPMs, like python2-devel or python2-tools? Or will those just expose six hundred more dependencies? Van I don't have an answer to your exact question. I can tell you though that I run RH 6.1. I downloaded and installed, with no problems, Python 2.2.1 from the source, rather than from RPMs. -- Raquel Whoever kindles the flames of intolerance is lighting a fire underneath his own home. --Harrold Stassen -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] List Name Guidelines
On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:16:28 -0400 Dave Warchol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello: In testing, I ran into some issues using a special character (apostrophe) in the list name, this was in an earlier post. Any guidelines to follow when specifying the list name? Thanks Dave Pretty much, a legal filename in *nix. (alphabetic characters, numeric characters, underscore _ and, dash -) -- Raquel Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts. --Albert Einstein -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] List Name Guidelines
On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 14:46:53 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, Raquel Rice wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:16:28 -0400 Dave Warchol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In testing, I ran into some issues using a special character (apostrophe) in the list name, this was in an earlier post. Any guidelines to follow when specifying the list name? Pretty much, a legal filename in *nix. (alphabetic characters, numeric characters, underscore _ and, dash -) Alphanumerics, underscore and dash is a great suggestion, and is what I use myself, but a legal filename in *nix is not such a great suggestion. At least in the *nixes that I have dealt with (Solaris, HPUX, and Linux), filenames can contain fun things like space, tab, !, @, $, , *, parenthesis, braces, bracket, angle-brackets, |, control characters ... lots of stuff. (Those who doubt it, please see below for a small sample.) Some of these are even legal in e-mail addresses, but alphanumerics, underscore and dash are certainly the most common and least controversial characters for e-mail addresses and the other places Mailman list names show up. - Andrew I stand corrected on the legal filename in *nix. -- Raquel Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts. --Albert Einstein -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Approval via email response broken in 2.1b3?
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 12:45:45 -0400 Stonewall Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/25/02 12:08 PM, Henrik Larsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:54 25-09-2002 -0400, you wrote: I've been trying out the moderation system in 2.1b3, and have found that using the reply mechanism has no effect - the message stays in the approval queue. The reply goes to the list-request address. The Subject is confirm a long string. I put the line Approved: listpassword on the first line of the reply. Is this known to work or is broken? Well i can't get the web approval to work, so maybe it is a generic approval problem? Web approval works fine for me in 2.1b3. - Stoney Web approval works for me in 2.1b3, but I've never tried email approval. -- Raquel You cannot be lonely if you like the person you're alone with. --Wayne Dyer -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Routine List Moderation?
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:40:46 -0400 Stonewall Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In 2.1b3, the help text for respond_to_post_requests in General Options says: Approval notices are sent when mail triggers certain of the limits except routine list moderation and spam filters, for which notices are not sent. For some lists, I want them to be routinely moderated and avoid the approval notices, but I can't find any setting for that, just the ability to moderate individual members. Is there really a way to set up a list so that it's always moderated, and quietly? Thanks. - Stoney Membership Management ... bottom of the page ... Set everyone's moderation bit, including those members not currently visible -- Raquel You and I want our lives to matter. We want our lives to make a real difference - to be of genuine consequence in the world. We know that there is no satisfaction in merely going through the motions, even if those motions make us successful, or even if we have arranged to make those motions pleasant. We want to know we have made some impact on the world. In fact, you and I want to contribute to the quality of life. We want to make the world work. --Werner Erhard -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] newsletter question
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 20:17:54 -0700 J. Alec West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm considering switching to a webhost that allows Mailman use and had one simple question. Can Mailman be set up to be used as a newsletter ... that is sent to a number of subscribers in such a way that subscribers cannot reply to the subscriber-list? Regards, J. Alec West Yes it can. What version will you have access to? -- Raquel Don't be afraid to give your best to what seemingly are small jobs. Every time you conquer one it makes you that much stronger. If you do the little jobs well, the big ones tend to take care of themselves. --Dale Carnegie -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] General Posting Filters (Privacy?)
On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 20:04:19 -0500 Daniel Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're using a current install of Mailman 2.0.6 and I tried going through the diff logs to find if this bug (or is it a bug?) was fixed or not with no success. I thought maybe you guys can shed some light on the subject. I setup a list for archival purposes and want the whole world to be able to post to it. Reading through some of the user submitted documentation I set the _General Posting Filters_ to reflect. Must posts be approved by an administrator? - No Restrict posting privilege to list members? (member_posting_only) - No Addresses of members accepted for posting to this list without implicit approval requirement - (Blank) Is this just a 2.0.6 bug or is this an issue that has not been looked at. Thanks in advance. -dK This doesn't answer your question directly, and perhaps I am not understanding something. The current version of Mailman is 2.0.13. -- Raquel You live longer once you realize that any time spent being unhappy is wasted. --Ruth E. Renkl -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Blocking Unsubscribe?
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 09:12:58 -0500 Nathan Beittenmiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings all! I am currently looking into replacing Majordomo with Mailman for our enterprise mailing list solutions. So far, I can duplicate everything I've customized on Majordomo with default settings in Mailman except the ability to block unsubscribing from a list. We have a number of required campus mailing lists that our users must remain subscribed to at all times. Majordomo allows us to restrict unsubscribing to moderator-approved, but I can't seem to find something similar in Mailman. While this isn't critical (or really a show-stopper), I wanted to see if I'm just missing something. Thanks in advance and sorry if this is a duplicate post; the search feature was down when I checked yesterday. Nathan Beittenmiller I think that the closest you can come is to have the server notify you when someone unsubscribes. At that point a letter can be sent saying it is required that they be subscribed. I would think though that if someone were asking to be unsubscribed, and they were told they were required to be subscribed, they probably aren't reading the mail anyway. I know that I wouldn't. I'd find some way to filter it out. -- Raquel Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could; some blunders and absurdities have crept in; forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day; you shall begin it serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense. --Ralph Waldo Emerson -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Bouncing Mail - How is it treated?
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 20:39:03 +0100 Angel Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone explain to me what VERP is?? lol thanks! Variable envelope return paths http://cr.yp.to/proto/verp.txt -- Raquel Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. --Winston Churchill -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Blocking Unsubscribe?
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 16:31:41 -0400 (EDT) Tom Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Tom Ryan wrote: The latest betas of mailman can allow the admin to block unsubscribe requests. However, you can't block the users setting nomail, etc. Seems we're almost there, just not quite :) Please note however, Nathan, the use of the word beta in Tom's reply. I am sure you have read on the Mailman site that v2.1 is in development, and explicitly -not- recommended for production mailing list service, and that good ole' v2.0.x is the current stable version (v2.0.13 is the latest). It sounds like you are definitely running a production service, so I just wanted to emphasize the point, in case it had missed your eye. HTH, - Andrew Sorry, I should have clarified that.. however, doesn't Barry need at least *some* people to run the beta under load to help iron out the problems :) Needless to say, I am one of those persons :) Tom Although I'm not on a list of people doing it and officially providing feedback, I have several production lists that have been running happily under 2.13b for the past 7 days. -- Raquel Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. --Winston Churchill -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] How do I add subscribers?
On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:30:46 -0700 Polly Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been reading the information for the new Mailman. I have not been able to locate how to add people to my list! I have a list but can't figure out how to create my list. Could you please guide me. List name: nacoe-doctors Thanks, Polly Olsen Program Coordinator Native American Center of Excellence Office Multicultural Affairs Box 357430, T-545A Health Science Center Seattle WA, 98195-7430 206-616-3043 Polly, To create a new list you need to use the newlist command. Go to your mailman directory and issue the command bin/newlist --help. It will return instructions for creating a list. You'll need to have root access to edit the /etc/mail/access file and run newaliases You can add subscribers by the administrators interface. Whether your version supports the add_members commands depends upon the version you're using. What version are you using? What kind of access do you have to the server? -- Raquel The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the full light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way. --Heraclitus -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mime stripping in 2.1b3
On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 20:50:41 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Barry A. Warsaw) wrote: WY == Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If we're taking votes here, I'm all for whitelists (block all MIME by default, except that which is explicitly allowed). I think in most cases a whitelist will be shorter and easier to maintain than a blacklist. WY I agree 100%. Generally, there are only going to be a few WY types of attachments you actually *do* want to permit. MM2.1b4 will have a whitelist (pass_mime_types) for MIME types in addition to the blacklist (filter_mime_types) that's in MM2.1b3. -Barry Wonderful! Thank you, Barry. How do you like job security? -- Raquel Life's up and downs provide windows of opportunity to determine ... [your] values and goals ... Think of using all obstacles as stepping stones to build the life you want. --Marsha Sinetar -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Moderators Interface
I've just upgraded to using Mailman 2.1b3, which provides for an administrator and a moderator. In the password setup, I've specified seperate passwords and in the general options I've specified seperate addresses. However, at the admin login, the moderator cannot login using her password. Is there a seperate page for the moderator(s) to login? I'm lost. -- Raquel Discontent is the first step in the progress of a man or a nation. --Oscar Wilde -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Remove a list
On Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:17:06 +0200 Denis Heitbrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, i'm new to mailman and i don't find anythink about how to remove a list... maybe im blind??? anyone could help me with this easy problem? thxxx greetz Denis Heitbrock Hi Dennis. Use: $ /home/mailman/bin/rmlist -a listname -a = remove the archives too -- Raquel The true secret of giving advice is, after you have honestly given it, to be perfectly indifferent whether it is taken or not and never persist in trying to set people right. --Hannah Whitall Smith -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Serialize?
On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 10:28:02 +0200 Norbert Bollow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G. Armour Van Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're running a number of servers it does get easier, and I suspect that there are quite a few users here who are in that situation. One system for Mailman is plenty for my needs, particularly since Mailman has that machine all to itself, so other upgrades can't interfere with it. I can't justify another system as a sandbox for 2.1, and wouldn't have time to figure out reasonable tests to run on it anyway. There's no problem whatsoever with running several (a few) separate Mailman installs on the same machine. It's just when you haven dozens of hundreds of installs that it become necessary to change a few things. Greetings, Norbert. This is something I was thinking of doing. I only run about 20 lists, but I don't want them messed with right now. I would like to do a seperate install of 2.1, testing it and them putting a couple of new lists onto it to see how it works. Is there anything special I need to be aware of in doing that? -- Raquel When you are joyous, look deep into your heart and you shall find it is only that which has given you sorrow that is giving you joy. When you are sorrowful look again in your heart, and you shall see that in truth you are weeping for that which has been your delight. --Kahlil Gibran -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Forget password form and unsubscribe without password
On Thu, 29 Aug 2002 22:45:53 -0600 Kory Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In mailman 2.0.13 is there a way for users to unsubscribe without remembering their password. I know you can send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and in the body put unsubscribe, but this requires a password. Has anyone developed a web forget password form, where the user can type in their email address and it will send them their mailman subscribers password. I would appreciate it if anyone would share their code. I'm trying to learn python. Kory Wheatley Go to the list page: http://domain.name/mailman/listinfo.cgi/listname At the bottom of the form enter your email address and click on Edit Options. There's a place to get your password sent to you. -- Raquel Whatever you are, be a good one. --Abraham Lincoln -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman
On Thu, 8 Aug 2002 16:00:58 -0400 Support Desk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha! You self-righteous hippo-crit! http://PaulsFunHouse.com/ initiates a pop-up for adult lists Pure-Humor.. And carries links for adult humor? Give us a break! Yeah, maybe Tom's reply was little tough, maybe Tom was having a bad day, but sounds like the pot calling the kettle black, pal. You really think anyone here will miss you? You think you are depriving us of anything by leaving? Certainly no monetary loss, since Mailman is open source. BTW: list is not moderated, it's one of those values in the USA called freedom of speech! Don't let the CD-ROM door hit your behind on your way out. SD I'm likely to catch hell over this ... but isn't free speech a sad excuse for being rude? -- Raquel Much unhappiness has come into the world because of bewilderment and things left unsaid. --Fyodor Dostoyevsky -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman question
On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:08:48 -0500 \\\ \\\Katherine P. Casale\\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a new administrator for a listhost that you host, and I cannot figure out how to set the e-mail addressed for the members of the listhost. I'm in the Membership Management area, but on the Membership list it says 0 members total and I can't figure out how to add people. Please help! Thanks! Kate Kate, Just below where it says 0 members total there should be a text field (down near the bottom of the page) where you enter the email addresses, one per line. Then below that, click on Submit Your Changes and the addresses will be added to your list. -- Raquel A person can't keep people from having a bad opinion of her, but she can keep them from being right about it. --Raquel Rice -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] question
On Fri, 26 Jul 2002 14:41:27 -0400 Caeden Dempsey Caeden Dempsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am having problems unsubscribing someone from my listserv. Somehow the address was listed as http://66.111.67.23/mailman/options/qsep/%22jlowens--at--csufresno.edu [EMAIL PROTECTED] (notice quotation mark at beginning). This person is receiving mail. When I try to unsubscribe the address I get this message: Error Unsubscribing: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] How can I remove this address from my list? Caeden Caeden, Can't you use the web interface to remove the person from the list? -- Raquel Be faithful to that which exists nowhere but in yourself - and thus make yourself indispensable. --Andre Gide -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] copy of subscriber list?
On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:54:09 -0700 J C Lawrence J C Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:23:52 -0700 Elaine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I confess I know I should be able to find it somewhere, but I need to know how to get a copy of my subscribers list for back-up. (I never trust a server I've never seen grin) Please see the FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py -- J C Lawrence Elaine, Try the command: bin/list_members -- Raquel As a rule, there is no surer way to the dislike of men than to behave well where they have behaved badly. --Lew Wallace -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Line wrapping in archives.
On Sat, 6 Jul 2002 14:03:03 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've been having the same problem as described in the old message copied below, and have not found anything in the Mailman archives. Has anyone come up with a solution? Many thanks! -Susan Someone responded to that a few days ago. Although I don't recall the exact response it was something like, it is not the responsibility of the list software to do line wrapping. The person gave several reasons that it was not the responsibility of the list software but instead the responsibility of the client software. I don't know, but my guess is that it's probably laid out in the RFCs too. -- Raquel You have not lived a perfect day, even though you earned your money, unless you have done something for someone who will never be able to repay you. --Ruth Smeltzer -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Re: [LO] Query about e-mail commands (response)
On Sat, 29 Jun 2002 14:32:39 +0530 (IST) Frederick Noronha Frederick Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently tried to subscribe 20-30 persons to one of my lists via email. This was my experience: * The first email contained about ten one-line commands subscribe listname nodigest [EMAIL PROTECTED] * To my suprise only the first line's address gave a return message saying that it had got subscribed. Does this mean: (i) the others didn't get subscribed (ii) others got subscribed but didn't show (iii) I need to send separate commands for each address? Is this a bug, or am I doing something wrong? FN I believe the parser quits after it finds the first command. Go to the list admin interface. Either type in the email addresses or copy and paste the addresses into the space. -- Raquel Treat the other man's faith gently; it is all he has to believe with. His mind was created for his own thoughts, not yours or mine. --Henry S. Haskins -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] stripmime.pl
On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 09:04:34 -0400 (EDT) Chad Rebuck Chad Rebuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sendmail would not let me pipe to a pipe. I was getting an error message. The author of stripmime thought I would have to use a script with sendmail, so I gave it a try and it worked fine. Here are the associated files: aliases file: a2-16v: |/home/mailman/removemime link to my script in /etc/smrsh: [root@maillist /etc/mail]# ll /etc/smrsh/ total 0 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 24 Jun 20 15:51 removemime - /home/mailman/removemime [root@maillist /etc/mail]# cat /home/mailman/removemime #!/bin/sh /home/mailman/stripmime.pl|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post a2-16v Thank you Chad! That makes sense. -- Raquel The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. --Walter Bagehot -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] how to create an announce-only list / newsletter / admin-post only list
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 17:17:58 +0200 Nils Vogels Nils Vogels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it in some way possible to prevent people from unsubscribing from such lists ? luckily, no. Could you please explain me, why it is a good thing that people can not unsubscribe from such a list ? I can imagine cases where the administrator of the list finds it important that a message gets delivered to all the people /he/ wishes to explicitly receive the message. While I agree this could easily be used for UCE, imagine a list of people you want to send a christmas-postcard via email to. I'd really like the good things from mailman, such as bounce detection, archiving etc, while I also want to make sure that each of my online friends gets the digital postcard. Gr, -- Nils Vogels If I were on your Christmas card list, I would think it terribly arrogant for you to block me from getting off your list. I'd block you at the server level. -- Raquel That which we persist in doing becomes easier - not that the nature of the task has changed, but our ability to do has increased. --Ralph Waldo Emerson -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] stripmime.pl
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 22:07:25 -0400 (EDT) Fuzzy Fuzzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Chad Rebuck wrote: Any idea how I can get mailmail to work with stripmime and sendmail? snip assuming you are not using smrsh that should work A line from my aliases for list courage (2.1b2+ but the idea is the same): courage: |/usr/local/bin/stripmime.pl|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post courage Fuzzy And if we are using smrsh?? -- Raquel One of the annoying things about believing in free will and individual responsibility is the difficulty of finding somebody to blame your problems on. And when you do find somebody, it's remarkable how often his picture turns up on your driver's license. --P. J. O'Rourke -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Snafu'd config
On Thu, 30 May 2002 00:18:09 -0600 LuKreme LuKreme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, May 29, 2002, at 08:41 AM, Stephen E. Hargrove wrote: It should probably be pointing to /mailman/admin rather than /admin. Any ideas what I may have configured incorrectly? Did you change the Base URL ont eh General page? it should be: http://your.domain.tld/mailman/ Now, how do I configure this so that http://mailman.my.domain.tld/ can be the base url? mailman.my.domain.tld has to resolve to a real IP number on your server. Then you have to set up your web server virtual host so that it knows where mailman.my.domain.tld is on your server. -- Raquel Be a fountain, not a drain. --Rex Hudler -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] New to Mailman -- Dropped messages to list owner's own email
On Thu, 30 May 2002 08:05:28 -0400 Scott Courtney Scott Courtney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, they are subscribed, and they are not nomail. I was certain of this but in the interest of completeness I rechecked just now. Also, the not metoo option is turned OFF for each address, meaning they *do* receive copies of their own posts. As a further bit of info, when a message is delivered to the list, the log /var/log/maillog actually shows SMTP traffic outbound to each of my two main addresses plus the separate test address. The test address is the only one that receives it, though. My main addresses get only the one-byte messages that appear to be just a bare linefeed or ^D character. Oh, and by the way, my mailbox file's modification date gets touched. Scott Do you get mail sent directly to those addresses ... not through the list? -- Raquel Be a fountain, not a drain. --Rex Hudler -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] New to Mailman -- Dropped messages to list owner's own email
On Wed, 29 May 2002 21:42:13 -0400 Scott Courtney Scott Courtney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good evening, all, or good morning to those in distant time zones! snip Everything works -- except that *I* get no mail from the list! I have tried sending mail to the list from several subscribed addresses, and it all goes through and posts to everyone but my two main addresses. Oddly enough, all regular inbound mail is caught by the first procmail rule and stays in my $DEFAULT folder as intended. I have verified this by temporarily putting another folder name in there. No errors in any of the SMTP logs, Mailman logs, or procmail logs. The procmail log shows a one-byte message being posted to my /var/spool/mail/mylogin mailbox. That's the only anomaly. Any ideas? Kind regards, Scott Scott, I like checking the easy stuff first. Have you subscribed your two main addresses to the lists? Are those two addresses set to nomail? -- Raquel One of the greatest victories you can gain over someone is to beat him at politeness --Josh Billings -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] unauthorized people can send mails to the list ...
On Sun, 26 May 2002 18:54:07 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I only have a few unmoderated people in my list (so only these can send mails to the list cause I discard the rest) it would be very easy for anyone to fake the senderadress of this people and so nevertheless send an email to the list. Is there a way to gain more security on restricting the access to the list. In fact I dont want to have a mailinglist, but a newsletter only. I was thinking about confirmation for sent email too or smtg like this or even a way to allow sending mails only via a special script. thnx, peter Check out the documentation at ... http://www.imsa.edu/~ckolar/mailman/mailman-administration-v2.html ... about halfway down the page at General posting filtersj and Posting privileges explained. -- Raquel A loud voice cannot compete with a clear voice, even if it's a whisper. --Barry Neil Kaufman -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] unauthorized people can send mails to the list ...
On Sun, 26 May 2002 20:42:03 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 10:29:44AM -0700, Raquel Rice wrote: Check out the documentation at ... http://www.imsa.edu/~ckolar/mailman/mailman-administration-v2.html ... about halfway down the page at General posting filtersj and Posting privileges explained. thnx, unfortunately anyone can fake a sender-adress and so any person in this world can send a mail to this list as soon as he knows the emailadress of a person that is actually allowed to send an mail to the list. Authentication per email-adress is a very weak mechanism cause mail-adresses can be faked very easily and so mailman uses confirmation-mail on subscription but does not offer this feature on posting. peter Why can't you make *ALL* posts to the list subject to confirmation by the listowner? In other words, make the list totally moderated? Then you make only those who are able to post, moderators? When Susan posts an announcement to the list, she herself goes and validates it through the web interface? -- Raquel A loud voice cannot compete with a clear voice, even if it's a whisper. --Barry Neil Kaufman -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help mail loop
On Fri, 24 May 2002 13:57:05 -0400 Wayne Arnold Wayne Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As of right now my list is in a mail loop where the digest is being sent out once per minute to my 800 plus users. My hosting agency is looking into it however it has been 2 hours. Is there any way to turn off a mailing list through the admin interface without deleting the list? Wayne How about changing the settings so that a digest is not kept? Just as a temporary measure? -- Raquel The poorest man is the man who has nothing but money. --John D. Rockefeller, Sr. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Newlist for virtual host
On Tue, 14 May 2002 17:42:07 +0100 Support Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi When i run newlist it does not prompt for which virtual_domain the list is for. I am using VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW=1 but it creates the lists under DEFAULT_HOST_NAME with DEFAULT_URL Looks like another hack needed to make it useable under virtual domains. Mark Mark, I was confused by that at first too. However, going to General Options, Host name this list prefers and the following question, you can change the virtual host for an individual list. -- Raquel Be yourself. Who else is better qualified? --Frank J. Giblin II -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help
On Mon, 13 May 2002 09:29:54 -0400 Bolzenius, Joseph S. Bolzenius, Joseph S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just started a webpage with Frontpage software on my Windows based PC and am using Hostway.com as my web hosting service. I saw that your maillist service is free and want to use it, but don't know how...it mentions that it may not work with windows. What do I do? Joe Full Shred Plow Mailman is not a service, it is software that runs on the server. Since it does not run on Windoze and your hosting company runs Windoze servers, it appears that you'll have to use another piece of software that will run on your server -- Raquel One day Alice came to a fork in the road and saw a Cheshire cat in a tree. Which road do I take? she asked. Where do you want to go? was his response. I don't know, Alice answered. Then, said the cat, it doesn't matter. --Lewis Carroll -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Thank You!
I want to thank the writers of Mailman for such a wonderful product. I run lists that have mostly women. When I added them to the lists they were sent out welcome messages which explained the mail interface and it gave them the URL to the web interface. Then I explained to them all about checking out the headers to find addresses for all occasions. They love it and I haven't heard a single complaint, only kudos for switching two weeks ago. -- Raquel My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit that reveals itself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind. --Albert Einstein -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] How do you subscribe/unsubscribe via email?
On Fri, 03 May 2002 15:58:03 -0400 Tony Dio Tony Dio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I am setting up a couple of mail lists for my job. For the life of me, I can't figure out how to give my clients email addresses they can use to subscribe/unsubscribe? I tried the [EMAIL PROTECTED] command but I can't figure it out. If you can give me an example it would be greatly appreciated, the list name is Wellwood . Also, I want to just use announcement lists, and I can't figure out that setting in the control panel either. Can someone tell me the proper combination of settings? Thank You, Tony D. Look at the headers of your list messages. It gives you the information that your clients need to use the email commands. -- Raquel The ability of a person to atone has always been the most remarkable of human features. --Leon Uris -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] password reminders sent with wrong sender
On Wed, 01 May 2002 11:17:05 +0200 Hans-Peter Zahno Hans-Peter Zahno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We run MM 2.0.10 (upgraded from 2.0.8 about 2 weeks ago) on Solaris 8 and Python 1.52 and serving about 260 lists. By this mornings password reminders we detected that (at least?) one lists password reminders were sent with wrong 'Sender:', 'Errors-To:', 'X-BeenThere:' headers. So the admin of list B got delivery failure reports of password reminders of list A! I just did my first installation of Mailman, version 2.0.10. This morning I got bounce messages sent to the wrong listadmins ... just like you. -- Raquel There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest. --Elie Wiesel -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Valid Characters
Please forgive my ignorance. I'm a new Mailman administrator, having just installed version 2.0.10 yesterday. I'm wondering what the valid characters are for list names (using newlist)? Thank you! -- Raquel If we value the pursuit of knowledge, we must be free to follow wherever that search may lead us. The free mind is not a barking dog, to be tethered on a ten-foot chain. --Adlai E. Stevenson Jr. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
