[Mailman-Users] mladmin script

[Raymond Wood]

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Hello,

I recently completed an upgrade from Mailman 2.0.11 -> 2.1.4 on
our server, and things seem to have gone reasonably well (we did
get bit briefly by the requirement to modify aliases in
/etc/aliases though).

I do have two questions, however, that I'm hoping someone on the
list can help clarify.

1.
Due to the ungodly quantity of spam that our lists are currently
receiving, we had been making use a neat perl script called
'mladmin' that we found on Sourceforge.  Basically it allows
long queues of held posts to be deleted all at once, instead of
the labour-intensive 'discard one-by-one via the web admin
interface' approach.

Since the upgrade, unfortunately, the mladmin script no longer
works :-(  It reports the queue as empty even when there
actually are held posts in queue, and it reports no errors.  Has
anyone else experienced this, and is there a workaround or
solution?

2.
Is there any plan to include a feature in Mailman that will
allow long spam-filled queue's to be deleted all at one time?  I
really hope so, because the current web interface is really just
too time-consuming for our list moderators, given the high
volume of spam we are receiving.

Thanks in advance for help received,
Raymond
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman upgrade on Debian stable: 2.0.11 -> 2.1.4

[Raymond Wood]

Hello all,

I need to upgrade Mailman and am currently running version
2.0.11 on Debian woody/stable.  I have located a 'backported'
debian package (i.e. a 'deb' of a recent version of Mailman that
has been backported to the Debian stable tree) on backports.org
that is the current version 2.1.4.

Some time ago I did some research on upgrading Mailman to 2.1.x
and noticed that there seemed to be some 'gotchas', so I decided
to hold off for awhile.

My question:  is there anyone on this list running Debian who:
1.  Has done the same (or similar) upgrade as I am proposing
above, who used the deb package from backports.org?  If so,
how did it go - were there any unforeseen complications with
the upgrade?
2.  Have done an upgrade from Mailman 2.0.x -> 2.1.x, using any
method, who would be willing to advise me how 'seamless' the
upgrade went?

Thanks in advance for your help,
Raymond
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Antivirus

[Raymond Wood]

On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 11:25:02AM -0300, Víctor de Zavalía remarked:
> Dear Mailman:
> 
> Does Mailman support antivirus features?
> 
> Kind regards,
> Víctor de Zavalía

I would be surprised if it did, but if so, I am interested in
knowing about it  ;-)

Currently we are using amavisd with f-prot on Debian GNU/Linux
to filter incoming viruses throught the Postfix MTA.

Have Fun,
Raymond


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Re: [Mailman-Users] mail server recommendations?

[Raymond Wood]

On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 12:13:10AM +0200, Brad Knowles imagined:
> At 2:21 PM -0700 2003/08/27, Aviram Carmi wrote:
> > If I am to make changes to sendmail might as well install another
> > server which will be better/easier for me as a non-admin person to
> > use/configure/maintain.
> 
>   [ ... deletia ... ]
> 
> > Any recommendations/suggestions?
> >
> > Should I even bother to replace sendmail?
> 
> Sendmail is quite capable of doing the job.  However, many people 
> find it difficult to configure and manage.

I tend to agree.  Feature-wise, Sendmail is still the most
powerful MTA AFAICT, but most people can make their lives easier
by choosing a less complex one, like Postfix or Exim.

Cross Smail off your list; it is way old, and possibly obsolete.
Qmail has fanatical devotees, but is not a 'drop-in' replacement
for Sendmail, and also has a 'non-free' license.  I'd cross them
both off your list.  YMMV.

> For smaller sites, or sites wishing to have a simpler
> configuration file, I find that postfix generally works very
> well.  It has one of the simplest configuration files that I
> have ever seen, and comes configured out-of-the-box to be just
> about the perfect MTA for a mailing list.

Postfix is also designed, like Qmail, from the ground up with
security in mind.  I'm told the source-code is a joy to look at,
but don't quote me on that as I'm no authority  :-)

> I've also heard good things about Exim, but my own
> experiences so far have been less positive with it than with
> postfix.  Note that Exim is not designed to be a drop-in
> replacement for sendmail, whereas postfix works very hard to
> function correctly in this role.

I think you want to double-check this; you may be thinking of
Qmail here.  AFAIK Exim, like Postfix, is structured to be a
drop-in replacement for Sendmail, but verify this for yourself.

>   If you'd like to learn more about postfix, you may want to
>   check out the article at 
> ,
>  
> and read the pages that they link to.
> 
> 
>   You should also read the Mailman FAQ, question 4.2 "Which MTA 
> should I use with Mailman?", at 
> .

FWIW I use both Exim and Postfix, and they both work fine.  If I
were to set up a new server right now, I'd go with Postfix.  I
just wish it had Exim's license  ;)

Have Fun, 
Raymond
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing list administration

[Raymond Wood]

On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 07:45:09PM +0200, Thomas Møller Andersen remarked:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm managing a list with mailman version 2.0.1. Recently the
> list has been bombarded - so much that i can't manage it
> through the web interface. How do I clean out all the
> spam-postings from the command line? We're talking about 4000
> postings...
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Thomas

/me whispers... mladmin ...

Have Fun, 
Raymond


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Clearing out admin messages

[Raymond Wood]

On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 08:50:14AM -0700, Morgan Fletcher remarked:
> Our spam filter seems to have sprung a leak, and one of our
> lists (mailman 2.0.8) now has over 1000 messages in the admin
> queue. We'd like to just clear it out without using the web
> interface. I searched for the solution but could not find it.
> How can we clear that queue en masse?
> 
> We'll upgrade to the latest mailman when I find some free
> time.
> 
> Thanks,
> Morgan

Google for a perl script called 'mladmin'.  Worked for us.

BTW, this should be added to the Mailman FAQ, where the existing
instructions appear to be rather outdated.

Have Fun, 
Raymond

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