Re: [Mailman-Users] Question about 'Content filtered message notification'
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 02:14:31PM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Mark Sapiro writes: As an aside to the original question, I think the MIME structure multipart/related multipart/alternative text/plain text/html image/jpeg is fundamentally wrong since the image/jpeg part is related to the text/html part and not to the multipart/alternative part. I don't think you can say that in general, though. Here's a picture of my new baby! with a nice inline display for the HTML subpart, and presented by the MUA as an attachment for people who are momentarily restricted to text-only, seems like a common application. That said, I have seen the former structure often, notably I think with stationery from Microsoft MUAs. That's definitely wrong, though, if the image is part of the HTML stationery. In this case, the image was the company logo. I think that would count as part of the stationery. -- Remember happiness doesn't depend upon who you are or what you have; it depends solely on what you think. -- Dale Carnegie Rick Pasottor...@niof.nethttp://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Question about 'Content filtered message notification'
One of my mailing lists rejected a message today and I don't understand why. The contents of the mailman message are: I 1 no description[text/plain, 7bit, us-ascii, 0.2K] I 2 Got a call from SBOE today [message/rfc822, 7bit, 14K] I 3 no description [multipa/related, 7bit, 12K] I 4 no description [multipa/alternativ, 7bit, 3.6K] I 5 no description [text/plain, quoted, us-ascii, 1.2K] I 6 no description[text/html, quoted, us-ascii, 1.9K] I 7 12758269.jpg [image/jpeg, base64, 8.8K] filter_content is 'yes' filter_mime_types is blank pass_mime_types is: multipart/mixed, multipart/alternative, text/plain filter_filename_extensions is exe, bat, cmd, com, pif, scr, vbs, cpl pass_filename_extensions is blank collapse_alternatives is 'yes' convert_html_to_plaintext is 'yes' for filter_action is 'Forward to List Owner' Why was this message rejected? (using 1:2.1.11-11 on debian) -- The ability to talk well is to a man what cutting and polishing are to the rough diamond. The grinding does not add anything to the diamond. It merely reveals its wealth. -- Orison S Marden Rick Pasottor...@niof.nethttp://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] moderated members can't post
Help! I just discovered the following in my error log: Apr 11 15:31:15 2009 (25836) Uncaught runner exception: Generator instance has no __call__ method Apr 11 15:31:15 2009 (25836) Traceback (most recent call last): File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 120, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 191, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 130, in _dispose more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 153, in _dopipeline sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Moderate.py, line 69, in process ModeratedMemberPost) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py, line 224, in hold_for_approval id = mlist.HoldMessage(msg, reason, msgdata) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py, line 205, in HoldMessage g(msg, 1) AttributeError: Generator instance has no __call__ method I'm running debian: mailman: Installed: 1:2.1.12-1 Candidate: 1:2.1.12-1 Version table: *** 1:2.1.12-1 0 990 ftp://debian.uchicago.edu testing/main Packages 200 ftp://ftp.debian.org unstable/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status Should I downgrade to 2.1.11-11? -- Be more concerned with your character than with your reputation. Your character is what you really are while your reputation is merely what others think you are. -- Dale Carnegie Rick Pasottor...@niof.nethttp://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] bccs
I just sent a message to two different lists, setting To: to list1 and Bcc: to list2. The second got moderated because of 'implicit address'. When I then approved it, the To: still showed list1 though the subject line got altered to include [list2]. I thought Bcc addresses would *replace* the To addresses. Do I have to actually post two different messages with different To:s? How are Bcc:s supposed to work? -- Our fatigue is often caused not by work, but by worry, frustration and resentment. -- Dale Carnegie Rick Pasottor...@niof.nethttp://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] changes at aol
debian Linux mnr.niof.net 2.6.24-1-686 #1 SMP Thu May 8 02:16:39 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux mailman 2.2.11-2 exim4 4.69-6 Before sending out my last mailing (it's an announce list) I set mailman to do 'full personalization' so I could find out who was hitting the spam button. The TOS notifications I got back had this at the top: ALERT: Your feedback loop is not in ARF (Abuse Reporting Format). Beginning September 2, 2008, all feedback loops will be converted to ARF. To learn more about how this will impact you, please read more about how AOL uses ARF at http://postmaster.aol.com/fbl/arfinfo.html. Also read the announcement of our plan to convert all feedback loops to ARF on our blog at http://journals.aol.com/pmtjournal/blog/entries/2008/06/27/aol-converting-all-fbls-to-arf-on-9208/2977. Please make any necessary preparations to accept ARF feedback loops before the September 2, 2008 conversion. To change your existing non-ARF loops to ARF, fill out our online support form at http://postmaster.aol.com/waters/fbl_change_form.html. What exactly is this telling me? Does mailman or exim need to be changed or do I need to do something? -- First ask yourself: What is the worst that can happen? Then prepare to accept it. Then proceed to improve on the worst. -- Dale Carnegie Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] changes at aol
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 01:49:50PM -0500, Robert Braver wrote: On Saturday, August 9, 2008, 1:40:19 PM, Steven Stern wrote: SS On 08/09/2008 12:16 PM, Robert Braver wrote: [...] SS | This means you will have to track down the individual message by SS | the Message ID in order to identify the email address of the SS | specific recipient. SS If you add personalization in the footer, AOL will not redact it. Today, yes, but not after the changes being made by AOL that is the subject of this thread. The messages I got back from AOL included a header line like: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] That 'username' tells me who the AOL member is. Are you saying that will be redacted with the new response format? -- Those words, 'temperate' 'moderate', are words either of political cowardice, or of cunning, or seduction... A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue, but moderation in principle is a species of vice. -- Thomas Paine Letter to Addressors Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Reply-To and announcement lists
I have had several mailing lists setup for quite some time. I've just tried to setup an announcement only list by setting all members to moderated. I also set the Reply-To to be the person who would be the person to answer any questions resulting from the announcement. Evidently this means that messages to the list are *not* sent to the moderator and the only thing that happens is that the sender gets a response saying to mail to the Reply-To address for inclusion in the next announcement. Why? This doesn't make sense to me. If all posts are *moderated* then the moderator should get the post to approve or deny. N'est-ce pas? -- Individuality is to be preserved and respected everywhere, as the root of everything good. -- Jean Paul Richter, 1803 Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification
On Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 05:00:56PM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: * Rick Pasotto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have recently been getting some of these from one of my mailing lists. Welcome to the wonderful world of AOL retards. There is nothing in it (that I've been able to see) that would tell me who the user is that is rejecting the email. There are several AOL addresses subscribed but only one rejection each time a mailing goes out. Do you use VERP to send out the mails? If you do that you can see who the culprit is. I wasn't but I turned it on and the latest TOS Notification included the user's email so I have now deleted them. Thanks for the suggestion. -- But the individual has no right to use force for any other end. I cannot legitimately force my fellow men to be industrious, sober, thrift, generous, learned, or pious; but I can force them to be just. -- Frédéric Bastiat (1801-1850) Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification
I have recently been getting some of these from one of my mailing lists. There is nothing in it (that I've been able to see) that would tell me who the user is that is rejecting the email. There are several AOL addresses subscribed but only one rejection each time a mailing goes out. 1) Have I overlooked something that would identify the user? 2) Why would AOL send such a useless email? -- The true bureaucrat is a man of really remarkable talents. He writes a kind of English that is unknown elsewhere in the world, and an almost infinite capacity for forming complicated and unworkable rules. --- H. L. Mencken Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] 'Discard all messages marked Defer' not working
It doesn't work for subscription requests. It still works fine for posts. On a page that had one of each the post was discarded but not the subscription request. On a page with just a subscription request nothing at all happens. Using 2.1.9 on debian. -- Humankind cannot stand very much reality. -- T. S. Eliot Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] 'Discard all messages marked Defer' not working
On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 03:45:42PM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: It doesn't work for subscription requests. It still works fine for posts. On a page that had one of each the post was discarded but not the subscription request. On a page with just a subscription request nothing at all happens. Using 2.1.9 on debian. It just occurred to me that 'messages' != 'administrative requests' which is how I was reading it. If that is in fact the intent, is there some way it could be made clearer? It certainly makes no sense to have the option when there are no messages to which it would apply though I do recognize the difficulty of programming that. -- Must the citizen ever for a moment, or in the least degree, resign his conscience to the legislator? Why has every man a conscience, then? I think that we should be men first, and subjects afterward. -- Henry David Thoreau Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] message archiving problem
On Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 04:20:52PM -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: Rick Pasotto wrote: I have a couple of lists that I send a weekly message to. This message has sections that I separate using a line of 60 hyphens. When the message gets archived the sections are archived separately but only the first has the correct subject line and the others show 'No Subject'. Why is this happening? What archiver is this? It must be the default as I certainly haven't changed anything. If I were using some external archiver why would I ask about it on this list? I don't think pipermail would separate one message into several apparent messages on boundaries of 60 hyphens. Just reporting the facts. Apparently what happens is the archiver you are using (which is ?) is splitting the message into separate messages on the hyphen line boundaries, and since the subsequent parts have no subject header, they get archived without a subject. I don't think Mailman/pipermail is doing this separation. A single post should be archived as one message unless it containes lines beginning with From (*nix mbox separators), but I think the current archiver escapes extraneous From lines, so even these won't cause a single message to be separated in the archive. What should happen and what *does* happen evidently are not the same. -- In 1792, there was [enacted] a death penalty for counterfeiting. I think it should be applied to the Federal Reserve. -- Ron Paul Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] message archiving problem
On Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 07:47:21PM -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
What Mailman version is this?
Sorry. I should have specified before. I'm running debian 2.1.9.
Can you provide a sample message that will illustrate the problem when
posted to a list?
attached
If you'll go to http://qctm.org/pipermail/qctm/2007-March/thread.html
you'll see the three pieces.
--
Only one thing can conquer war - that attitude of mind which can see
nothing in war but destruction and annihilation -- Ludwig von Mises
Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net
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The audio files for this week's meeting are:
http://qctm.org/audio/qctm-070306-all.mp3
http://qctm.org/audio/qctm-070306-evals.mp3
http://qctm.org/audio/qctm-070306-pasotto.mp3
http://qctm.org/audio/qctm-070306-teeters.mp3
http://qctm.org/audio/qctm-070306-topics.mp3
Here's what happened at this week's meeting of Queen City Toastmasters:
Toastmaster: Phil Neufeld
Table Topics Master: Robyn Benjamin
Table Topics Speaker:*Peter Bolton Underage partying next door
Table Topics Speaker: Steve Murphy Annoying neighborhood light
Table Topics Speaker: Phil Neufeld Neighbor violates HOA covenant
Table Topics Speaker: Roger Pierce Neighbor's son damages you lawn
Speaker: Rick Pasotto An Irreplaceable Spark
Speaker:*Guest Speaker Fear
Master Evaluator: Roger Pierce
Speaker Evaluator:*Peter Bolton (Scott Teeters)
Speaker Evaluator: Steve Murphy (Rick Pasotto)
Grammarian: Peter Bolton (resplendent)
Timer: Roger Pierce
--
resplendent adj
1: having great beauty and splendor; a glorious spring
morning; a glorious sunset; splendid costumes; a
kind of splendiferous native simplicity [syn: {glorious},
{splendid}, {splendiferous}]
2: richly and brilliantly colorful [syn: {flamboyant}, {unrestrained}]
From Moby Thesaurus II by Grady Ward, 1.0 [moby-thes]:
47 Moby Thesaurus words for resplendent:
beaming, bedazzling, blazing, blinding, blooming, bright,
bright and shining, brilliant, charismatic, dazzling, devastating,
divine, effulgent, flamboyant, flaming, fulgent, fulgid, garish,
glamorous, glaring, glary, glorious, glowing, gorgeous, heavenly,
illustrious, killing, lustrous, magic, magnificent, numinous,
proud, radiant, raving, ravishing, refulgent, shining, sparkling,
splendent, splendid, splendiferous, splendorous, splendrous,
stunning, sublime, superb, vivid
--
And here's who's currently scheduled for next week (Mar 13, 2007):
Please email Alex Klaus at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any necessary changes or
to get your name added to the schedule.
Toastmaster: Steve Murphy
Table Topics Master: Roger Pierce
Speaker: Peter Bolton
Master Evaluator: Rick Pasotto
Speaker Evaluator: Phil Neufeld
Grammarian: Robyn Benjamin
Hope to see everyone next Tuesday evening, Greystone Restaurant,
3039 South Blvd, for another
[Mailman-Users] message archiving problem
I have a couple of lists that I send a weekly message to. This message has sections that I separate using a line of 60 hyphens. When the message gets archived the sections are archived separately but only the first has the correct subject line and the others show 'No Subject'. Why is this happening? -- Government should be concerned with anti-social conduct, not with utterances. -- Justice William Orville Douglas Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] content filtering problem
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 05:24:13PM -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: Rick Pasotto wrote: Today I received a message that had been rejected by the content filtering system and I'm not sure why. The sections of the message were: I 1 no description [text/plain, 7bit, us-ascii, 0.2K] I 2 Toastmaster Meeting for Tmrw[message/rfc822, 7bit, 26K] I 3 no description[multipa/related, 7bit, 24K] I 4 no description [multipa/alternativ, 7bit, 3.7K] I 5 no description[text/plain, quoted, us-ascii, 0.5K] I 6 no description [text/html, quoted, us-ascii, 2.9K] I 7 NewCiscoLogo.jpg [image/jpeg, base64, 20K] In the pass_mime_types I have: multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain Was the message rejected because the text/plain was quoted? No. You have two problems. What is the overall message type in the main message headers? I suspect it was not multipart/mixed or multipart/alternative; possibly multipart/related or some such which would cause all of its sub-parts to be skipped because multipart/whatever is not accepted. I can see that I was insufficiently clear. What I posted above is the sections of the reject message that Mailman sent me. The 'message/rfc822' appears to be Mailman's encapsulation of the original message. From your explanation I see that the problem was that the original message was 'multipart/related'. Further, even if the main message is multipart/mixed, you don't accept the message/rfc822 part so the only thing left would be the initial 0.2K text/plain part. You need to accept every multipart/ type that could possibly contain a sub-part of interest. A better choice for pass_mime_types is multipart message/rfc822 text/plain In your example above, this would pass all the multipart types regardless of sub-type as well as the message/rfc822 part. This doesn't mean the entire message will be passed. It just means that the various sub-parts of those parts will be examined and the text/plain parts accepted. Even though the above seems very liberal, it ultimately only accepts text/plain and elemental message/rfc822 parts, in this case only the two text/plain parts. Excellent. This is what I want. Thanks. -- Only one thing can conquer war - that attitude of mind which can see nothing in war but destruction and annihilation -- Ludwig von Mises Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Display error for 'members' page
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 03:41:31PM -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: Rick Pasotto wrote: I tried to clone a member from the command line (something I've done many times previously) but it failed with a NotAMemberError error. The traceback indicated that the *new* address was the problem. Well, of course the new address was not (yet) a member! Anyway, now when I try to use the web interface the 'members' page won't display. I get a 'Bug in Mailman' error. And what is the traceback from this error in Mailman's error log. Here it is: Mar 20 12:33:53 2007 admin(13911): admin(13911): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.9 -] admin(13911): [- Traceback --] admin(13911): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(13911): File /var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver, line 110, in run_main admin(13911): main() admin(13911): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 197, in main admin(13911): show_results(mlist, doc, category, subcat, cgidata) admin(13911): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 497, in show_results admin(13911): form.AddItem(membership_options(mlist, subcat, cgidata, doc, form)) admin(13911): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 978, in membership_options admin(13911): names = filter(None, [mlist.getMemberName(s) for s in members]) admin(13911): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py, line 131, in getMemberName admin(13911): self.__assertIsMember(member) admin(13911): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py, line 113, in __assertIsMember admin(13911): raise Errors.NotAMemberError, member admin(13911): NotAMemberError: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know if it would be wise to include the python/server info so I have omitted them. The member name that produces the error is the one I was trying to add. I have other lists on this machine (different domains) and they still work fine. How do I fix the problem? http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.013.htp may help. I don't see why you would think so. 'bin/list_members -i listname' returns nothing. -- Now what liberty can there be where property is taken without consent?? -- Samuel Adams Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Display error for 'members' page
I'm running 2.1.9 under debian etch. I tried to clone a member from the command line (something I've done many times previously) but it failed with a NotAMemberError error. The traceback indicated that the *new* address was the problem. Well, of course the new address was not (yet) a member! Anyway, now when I try to use the web interface the 'members' page won't display. I get a 'Bug in Mailman' error. I have other lists on this machine (different domains) and they still work fine. How do I fix the problem? -- No one can make you feel inferior without your consent. -- Eleanor Roosevelt Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] what's different
I have several mailing list on several domains running on my machine (debian Etch, using exim4). As far as I can tell they are all setup identically however on one of them mail sent to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' (and any other -request type address) gets returned as 'Unroutable address'. The other lists behave correctly. Where should I look to uncover the problem? 'exim4 -bt' returns the same results for all lists. Thinking it might be something that could be corrected with fix_url I tried running it but get the following error: Traceback (most recent call last): File bin/withlist, line 297, in ? main() File bin/withlist, line 275, in main r = do_list(listname, args, func) File bin/withlist, line 201, in do_list return func(m, *args) File /usr/lib/mailman/bin/fix_url.py, line 81, in fix_url mlist.web_page_url = web_page_url AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'web_page_url' I know I have successfully run fix_url before. What do I have wrong now? -- But, if I deny the authority of the state when it presents its tax bill, it will soon take and waste my property and so harass me and my children without end. This is hard. This makes it impossible for a man to live honestly, and at the same time comfortably ... -- Henry David Thoreau Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Accepting MSword attachments
In the pass_mime_types filter I have: multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain applica/msword but msword docs are treated (converted?) to null text files. What else do I have to do to accept MSword docs? -- Worry is like a rocking chair - it gives you something to do but it doesn't get you anywhere. -Dorothy Galyean Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] cannot remove member
Somehow I subscribed a member with double quotes around the address so his address shows up as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I try to unsubscribe him, both from the web interface and the command line, the entry does not get removed. If I add the name without the quote marks then attempting to remove the name *with* quote marks removes the name *without* quote marks. How do I correct this entry error? -- One of the hardest things in life is having words in your heart that you can't utter. -James Earl Jones, actor (1931- ) Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] cannot remove member
On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 04:57:51PM -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: Rick Pasotto wrote: Somehow I subscribed a member with double quotes around the address so his address shows up as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I try to unsubscribe him, both from the web interface and the command line, the entry does not get removed. If I add the name without the quote marks then attempting to remove the name *with* quote marks removes the name *without* quote marks. How do I correct this entry error? Have you tried bin/remove_members listname \[EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, yes. And many variations. If you have and it didn't work, see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.013.htp That did the trick. Thanks. -- The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for humans any more than black people were made for whites or women for men. -Alice Walker Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] virtual hosting question
I run debian linux with exim3 and mailman 2.1.5. My machine has a primary name of 'niof.net' and I also have several virtual hosts with their own mailing lists on the same machine. The mm_cfg.py file has 'VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()' and all the appropriate add_virtualhost() lines. Mail to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' works. 'virtual-host.com' is set as the 'host name this list prefers'. The link to http://virtual-host.com/mailman/listinfo/list works but the links at the bottom of that page (to the admin interface, other lists) use niof.net as the host. I can access the admindb pages with either host name. How can I get *all* the pages to refer to the virtual host *only*? -- A penny will hide the biggest star in the universe if you hold it close enough to your eye. -Samuel Grafton Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Too many recipients to the message
On Wed, Nov 03, 2004 at 12:37:09PM -0600, Kelly Conwell wrote: How do I correct Too many recipients to the message in a mailing this, as well as, see who the user is sending to ? The list user is an allowed sender. He post To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and will also Cc: maybe (5) more individuals users who are not part of the list. Tell the user: Don't do that. -- The road uphill and the road downhill are one and the same. -- Heraclitus, philosopher (Ca. 540-470 BCE) Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] debian upgrade to 2.1.5
mailman appeared in the list of potential upgrades this morning but when I try to install it I'm told that there are files in /var/lib/mailman/qfiles so the upgrade won't happen. There are no *files* in that directory, however there are some *directories* there. I'm told to run 'mailmanctl start' to clear out the files and then run the update again. When I try to do that I'm told that qrunner is already running. How can I find what files are blocking the upgrade? -- A man who has nothing he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does his own personal safety, is a miserable creature, who has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of men better than himself. As long as justice and injustice have not terminated their ever- renewing fight...human beings must be willing...to do battle for the one against the other. -- John Stuart Mill Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] debian upgrade to 2.1.5
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 04:42:07PM +0100, Richard Barrett wrote: On 25 Aug 2004, at 13:57, Rick Pasotto wrote: mailman appeared in the list of potential upgrades this morning but when I try to install it I'm told that there are files in /var/lib/mailman/qfiles so the upgrade won't happen. There are no *files* in that directory, however there are some *directories* there. I'm told to run 'mailmanctl start' to clear out the files and then run the update again. When I try to do that I'm told that qrunner is already running. If there and files in the subdirs of $prefix/qfiles/ then make sure 'mailmanctl start' has started the qrunners and let it run until the subdirs are empty. Then stop your local MTA, sendmail or whatever, so that it will not deliver any more messages into the $prefix/qfiles/in subdir. Run 'mailmanctl stop' to stop the qrunners and you should be able to safely upgrade the mailman installation. I cannot speak to debian and how it does upgrades. Thew restart your MTA and run 'mailmanctl start'. There is *nothing* for qrunner to process. There are files in the 'bad' directory. There are files in the 'shunt' directory. There is one file in the 'commands' directory which is waiting for moderator action. How can I find what files are blocking the upgrade? Why should any of those files block the upgrade? -- Within the limits of equity, everything is to be accomplished through the free and perfectible initiative of man; nothing is to be achieved by law or by force save universal justice. -- Frédéric Bastiat (1801-1850) Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Where is 'last autoresponse' limit set?
I've been getting emails like this from the system: Subject: Last autoresponse notification for today We have received a message from your address [EMAIL PROTECTED]' requesting an automated response from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. We have seen 10 such messages from you today. In order to avoid problems such as mail loops between email robots, we will not be sending you any further email responses today. Please try again tomorrow. I have no control over how many spams from non-members get sent to the list so why should there be a limit as to how many times I can cancel such postings by return email? -- One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important. -- Bertrand Russell Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Text Attachments
On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 09:15:03AM -0500, Mike Phillips wrote: This question has been discussed at length, but I don't know if there ever was a definitive answer. Is there a way to cause MM not to send the nuisance text attachments that accompany HTML posts to the list? My server is 2.1.3. I beg your pardon! That text portion is the *only* portion of the email that I will read. Any email that arrives in my mailbox with nothing but html gets discarded unread. I doubt I am alone in this practice. -- Moreover, any man more right than his neighbors constitutes a majority of one already. -- Henry David Thoreau Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] help using withlist
How do I add a member to a list using 'withlist'? The AddMember function takes a 'userdesc' argument which is described as an instance but nowhere can I find *what* it is an instance of. -- The government consists of a gang of men exactly like you and me. They have, taking one with another, no special talent for the business of government; they have only a talent for getting and holding office. --- H. L. Mencken Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] message disappeared
On an announcement only list a message was submitted that I approved but it never got distributed. I can find no more trace of it. It's gone from the data directory. What could have happened? It was an html message and the list is set to convert all html to text. Using Mailman version: 2.1.3 -- Normal is not something to aspire to, it's something to get away from. -- Jodie Foster Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] modifying subscribers progammatically
Using Mailman version: 2.1.1 I have a mysql database of members of a club and would like to be able to have changes to that database propagated to the club's mailing list. I use python scripts to maintain the database. 1. Can I do everything with 'withlist'? adding, deleting, setting the do-not-mail flag? The example in 'withlist' shows only setMemberPassword(). Where do I find any other possible functions that can be used? 2. Now that mailman is keeping user names, what is the format of the file for use with add_members, sync_members, etc. to include the name? Will sync_members update the subscriber's name? 3. What do I need to do to a (python) script I write so that it can modify a list? Does it need to be in a particular location? What permissions? (Everything is on my debian linux box.) -- That all men are by nature equally free and independent, and have certain inherent rights, of which, when they enter into a state of society, they cannot, by any compact, deprive or divest their posterity; namely, the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety. -- The Virginia Declaration of Rights Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] strip-mime and aol
What does my AOL user need to change? I use strip-mime and it deletes her entire message. It looks to me like AOL is sending an rfc822 message as an attachment. -- Every time I try to define a perfectly stable person, I am appalled by the dullness of that person. -- J. D. Griffin Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] strip-mime and aol
On Fri, Sep 06, 2002 at 08:54:38PM -0400, hotmail user wrote: Q: What do you call someone who pays double for internet access? A: An AOL user! AOL user needs to change to a real isp. tom Q: What do you call someone who sends html email? A: Clueless. Q: What do you call someone who wastes time and bandwidth *not* answering the question? A: Clueless. -- Our liberty depends upon the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost. -- Thomas Jefferson Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Why my Mailman Send monthly reminder of passwd to our users twice
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 10:12:16AM -0800, Orion (Steve Pirk) wrote:
This is an option on the "General Options" html page of the admin
interface. It is labled:
Send monthly password reminders or no? Overrides the previous
option. (Details)
That wasn't the question.
The problem is that *some* users get the monthly reminder twice even
though they get only one copy of other posts. Why?
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Muhammad Ashraf wrote:
I am in trouble because my mailman send a monthly reminder twice to
a users.this happens on each first day of each month.How i can
prevent my mailman send reminder only one time at each mouth's
first day
--
"The market is not an invention of capitalism. It has
existed for centuries. It is an invention of civilization."
-- Mikhail Gorbachev
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Re: [Mailman-Users] cookie feature request
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 03:04:40AM +0200, Moshe Zadka wrote: On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 12:37:41 -0500, Rick Pasotto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been bitten again. I normally run junkbuster so cookies are turned off. Can mailman check for this situation and alert that cookies are not functioning instead of just asking again for the name/password with no indication of why? How would mailman know? All it sees is you (someone it has never authenticated, by lack of cookies) trying to access an administrative page. Many sites tell me 'you do not have cookies enabled.' If you set a cookie and then can't read it back it's clear that cookies are not enabled. -- "The market is not an invention of capitalism. It has existed for centuries. It is an invention of civilization." -- Mikhail Gorbachev Rick Pasotto email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
