[Mailman-Users] Message Footer

2006-04-27 Thread Robert Haack
We've just recently noticed that on messages that come through the 
mailing list that the message footer is appended to the end of the 
message and also as an attachment in the message.  I want the footer to 
appear at the bottom of the message but not as an attachment.  Is there 
anyway to prevent this from happening?

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[Mailman-Users] Withlist Errors

2005-12-14 Thread Robert Haack
I'm working on a procedure to change the number of recipients in lists. 
Following a sample Mark Sapiro (Thank You Mark) I created the below
procedure.  When I run it though I a bunch of errors.  Being that I know
nothing about Python I was hoping that one of you might be able to point
out what is wrong here.  If I need to post this to the python list
instead just let me know.

def cng_no_recipents(mlist):
   mlist.Lock()
   mlist.max_num_recipients = 100
   mlist.Save()
   mlist.Unlock()


[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ./withlist -l -r cngnorecipe.cng_no_recipents test3
Importing cngnorecipe...
Running cngnorecipe.cng_no_recipents()...
Loading list test3 (locked)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File ./withlist, line 275, in ?
main()
  File ./withlist, line 256, in main
r = do_list(listname, args, func)
  File ./withlist, line 189, in do_list
return func(m, *args)
  File /var/mailman/bin/cngnorecipe.py, line 2, in cng_no_recipents
mlist.Lock()
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 159, in Lock
self.__lock.lock(timeout)
  File /var/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py, line 291, in lock
raise AlreadyLockedError
Mailman.LockFile.AlreadyLockedError
Unlocking (but not saving) list: test3
Finalizing

TIA

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[Mailman-Users] Changing multiple lists via withlist

2005-12-07 Thread Robert Haack
I have over 120 lists for which I need to make a couple of changes to
the config files.  I don't really want to do this manually and I have
very limited Python experience.  I believe from what I've seen that
withlist is my best option but I could be wrong.  The two things I want
to change are:

1) Change the message footer for non digest option.
2) I also have the need to add/remove email addresses in List of
non-member addresses whose postings should be automatically accepted
section Privacy Options - Sender Filters.

I looked in the FAQ and searched the archives but I did not see anything
like what I'm looking for.

Does anybody have some similar examples that they could share with me or
perhaps point me to another web site that would help with this?

Thank You

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages not delivered *RESOLVED*

2005-06-07 Thread Robert Haack
I just thought that I would report on what I've found.

I setup another copy of Mailman on a different server and created all of 
the exact same test lists I had on my live server.  However on this 
server I did not install Jim Tittsler's patch to allow another list to 
post to a list.  I just copied the users who could post to the list into 
the Addresses that should be accepted.  I created a quick and dirty 
program to send emails to all of the lists as different user names.  
After running 30 tests I had no problems with any messages getting 
lost.  So today I changed all of my test lists on my live server so that 
they no longer use a list name to verify who can post to the list.  I 
just took their names and pasted them in.  I ran another 30 tests and 
again had no problem.  So to me it seems to be this patch that caused my 
problems and the patch works great if a user only posts to a single 
list, but if they post to multiple lists then that's when the problem 
arose for me.

So now I have another question.  Is there some way that I can 
automatically add a name to the List of non-member addresses whose 
postings should be automatically accepted?  For us this list changes on 
a regular basis and I'd hate to have to go through our 20+ lists and 
update them all manually?

TIA

Robert Haack
Programmer Analyst
North Clackamas School District #12
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Robert Haack wrote:

Robert Haack wrote:

 



I've been doing some testing and here is what I've found in addition to

what's below:

I sent a message to 6 lists titled test, testtwo, test3, test_4, test_5, 
and test_6.  On a consistent basis it appears that only 4 of these lists 
get the message.  If I look at my postfix log I see that the message was 
processed successfully yet when I look in the mailman/qfiles/in 
directory I only see the message come through to 4 of the 6 lists (I 
know this partly because the message get stuck in the que).  It's not 
the same 4 lists each time that the message comes through to either and 
there are no messages in any of the other directories under qfiles/.  I 
see nothing in the Mailman log files that indicates any error.  It's 
almost like postfix hands the message off to Mailman and then things go 
haywire.
   

  

Does the postfix log show that the message was piped to the wrapper for
all 6 lists (i.e. six deliveries)?



Mark,

I believe it does.  I've included the partial log for each of the 6 
lists I mentioned.  I didn't know if it would help any but I figured it 
was worth a shot.   The interesting thing I noticed was that testtwo, 
test3, and test_6 all show 2 bounces in the log file as well yet for 
both tests I ran today I actually got both messages from these 3 lists.  
I got one message for the list test_5 and it had one bounce.  I got 0 
bounces for list test and test_4.  I got one message to the test list 
and got none for list test_4. 

Jun  3 08:27:52 nclack postfix/local[23906]: 35B0C46A02: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
us, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent (|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post 
test)
Jun  3 08:52:28 nclack postfix/local[27457]: DE71346A09: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
us, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent (|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post 
test)

Jun  3 08:27:52 nclack postfix/local[23471]: 35B0C46A02: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or.us, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent (|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
post test
two)
Jun  3 08:42:28 nclack postfix/qmgr[1959]: A297846A02: 
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ack.k12.or.us, size=1707, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Jun  3 08:52:28 nclack postfix/local[27498]: DE71346A09: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or.us, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent (|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
post test
two)
Jun  3 08:52:31 nclack postfix/qmgr[1959]: 14DCF46A09: 
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ack.k12.or.us, size=1691, nrcpt=1 (queue active)

un  3 08:27:52 nclack postfix/local[23856]: 35B0C46A02: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
.us, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent (|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
post test3
)
Jun  3 08:27:54 nclack postfix/qmgr[1959]: 0FBA746A02: 
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
k.k12.or.us, size=1735, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Jun  3 08:52:28 nclack postfix/local[27449]: DE71346A09: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
.us, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent (|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
post test3
)
Jun  3 08:55:00 nclack postfix/qmgr[1959]: 5DC8B46A08: 
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
k.k12.or.us, size=1719, nrcpt=1 (queue active)

Jun  3 08:27:52 nclack postfix/local[24626]: 35B0C46A02: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
r.us, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent (|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
post test_
4)
Jun  3 08:52:28 nclack postfix/local[27456]: DE71346A09: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
r.us, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent (|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
post test_
4)

Jun  3 08:27:52 nclack postfix/local[24619]: 35B0C46A02: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
r.us, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent (|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
post test_
5)
Jun  3 08:52:28 nclack postfix/local[27443]: DE71346A09: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
r.us, relay=local, delay=1, status

Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages not delivered

2005-06-03 Thread Robert Haack
I've been doing some testing and here is what I've found in addition to

what's below:

I sent a message to 6 lists titled test, testtwo, test3, test_4, test_5, 
and test_6.  On a consistent basis it appears that only 4 of these lists 
get the message.  If I look at my postfix log I see that the message was 
processed successfully yet when I look in the mailman/qfiles/in 
directory I only see the message come through to 4 of the 6 lists (I 
know this partly because the message get stuck in the que).  It's not 
the same 4 lists each time that the message comes through to either and 
there are no messages in any of the other directories under qfiles/.  I 
see nothing in the Mailman log files that indicates any error.  It's 
almost like postfix hands the message off to Mailman and then things go 
haywire.

Any ideas appreciated.

Thank You

Robert Haack
Programmer Analyst
North Clackamas School District #12
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Robert Haack wrote:

I'm still having issues when people post to multiple lists.  The message 
will go to some of the lists but not all of the lists.  It not the same 
list that this happens to all the time so I know it's not a particular 
list.  For example I could send a message to list1, list2, list3, and 
list4.  It might go to list1, list2, and list4, but not to list3 or it 
might go to list1, list2, list3 but not list 4.  When I look in the 
mailman post log I see that it sent it to those lists even though the 
email lists all of the lists on it.  I've looked at the qrunner log and 
the only thing in it for the last email that this happened to is the 
following:

May 31 11:52:52 2005 (6715) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 13022, sig: None, sts: 1, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/1) 
[restarting]
May 31 11:52:53 2005 (19872) IncomingRunner qrunner started.

The rest of the logs show nothing went wrong.

At first I thought it was my stopping and restarting Mailman every that 
might be causing the problem but that has proved false with the latest 
email because I stopped that job.  The only other thing I notice is that 
the lock files seem to hang around.  Here is a current list of my lock 
files:

Mailman Lock Directories
-rw-rw-r--  2 mailman mailman 64 May 31  2005 
/var/mailman/locks/middle_sch_prin.lock
-rw-rw-r--  2 mailman mailman 64 May 31  2005 
/var/mailman/locks/middle_sch_prin.lock.nclack.k12.or.us.19872.4
-rw-rw-r--  2 mailman mailman 63 May 31  2005 
/var/mailman/locks/middle_sch_sec.lock
-rw-rw-r--  2 mailman mailman 63 May 31  2005 
/var/mailman/locks/middle_sch_sec.lock.nclack.k12.or.us.15122.0
-rw-rw-r--  2 mailman mailman 55 May 31  2005 /var/mailman/locks/nclack.lock
-rw-rw-r--  1 mailman mailman 55 May 31  2005 
/var/mailman/locks/nclack.lock.nclack.k12.or.us.11183.2
-rw-rw-r--  1 mailman mailman 55 May 31  2005 
/var/mailman/locks/nclack.lock.nclack.k12.or.us.15122.1
-rw-rw-r--  2 mailman mailman 55 May 31  2005 
/var/mailman/locks/nclack.lock.nclack.k12.or.us.19872.3
-rw-rw-r--  1 mailman mailman 55 May 31  2005 
/var/mailman/locks/nclack.lock.nclack.k12.or.us.19872.5
-rw-rw-r--  2 mailman mailman 60 May 31  2005 
/var/mailman/locks/sr_high_sec.lock
-rw-rw-r--  2 mailman mailman 60 May 31  2005 
/var/mailman/locks/sr_high_sec.lock.nclack.k12.or.us.11183.1

These are not overly busy lists so I know the server isn't having bottle 
neck problems.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

TIA

  



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages not delivered

2005-06-03 Thread Robert Haack

Robert Haack wrote:

  

I've been doing some testing and here is what I've found in addition to

what's below:

I sent a message to 6 lists titled test, testtwo, test3, test_4, test_5, 
and test_6.  On a consistent basis it appears that only 4 of these lists 
get the message.  If I look at my postfix log I see that the message was 
processed successfully yet when I look in the mailman/qfiles/in 
directory I only see the message come through to 4 of the 6 lists (I 
know this partly because the message get stuck in the que).  It's not 
the same 4 lists each time that the message comes through to either and 
there are no messages in any of the other directories under qfiles/.  I 
see nothing in the Mailman log files that indicates any error.  It's 
almost like postfix hands the message off to Mailman and then things go 
haywire.



Does the postfix log show that the message was piped to the wrapper for
all 6 lists (i.e. six deliveries)?

Mark,

I believe it does.  I've included the partial log for each of the 6 
lists I mentioned.  I didn't know if it would help any but I figured it 
was worth a shot.   The interesting thing I noticed was that testtwo, 
test3, and test_6 all show 2 bounces in the log file as well yet for 
both tests I ran today I actually got both messages from these 3 lists.  
I got one message for the list test_5 and it had one bounce.  I got 0 
bounces for list test and test_4.  I got one message to the test list 
and got none for list test_4. 

Jun  3 08:27:52 nclack postfix/local[23906]: 35B0C46A02: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
us, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent (|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post 
test)
Jun  3 08:52:28 nclack postfix/local[27457]: DE71346A09: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
us, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent (|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post 
test)

Jun  3 08:27:52 nclack postfix/local[23471]: 35B0C46A02: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or.us, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent (|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
post test
two)
Jun  3 08:42:28 nclack postfix/qmgr[1959]: A297846A02: 
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ack.k12.or.us, size=1707, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Jun  3 08:52:28 nclack postfix/local[27498]: DE71346A09: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or.us, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent (|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
post test
two)
Jun  3 08:52:31 nclack postfix/qmgr[1959]: 14DCF46A09: 
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ack.k12.or.us, size=1691, nrcpt=1 (queue active)

un  3 08:27:52 nclack postfix/local[23856]: 35B0C46A02: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
.us, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent (|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
post test3
)
Jun  3 08:27:54 nclack postfix/qmgr[1959]: 0FBA746A02: 
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
k.k12.or.us, size=1735, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Jun  3 08:52:28 nclack postfix/local[27449]: DE71346A09: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
.us, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent (|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
post test3
)
Jun  3 08:55:00 nclack postfix/qmgr[1959]: 5DC8B46A08: 
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
k.k12.or.us, size=1719, nrcpt=1 (queue active)

Jun  3 08:27:52 nclack postfix/local[24626]: 35B0C46A02: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
r.us, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent (|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
post test_
4)
Jun  3 08:52:28 nclack postfix/local[27456]: DE71346A09: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
r.us, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent (|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
post test_
4)

Jun  3 08:27:52 nclack postfix/local[24619]: 35B0C46A02: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
r.us, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent (|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
post test_
5)
Jun  3 08:52:28 nclack postfix/local[27443]: DE71346A09: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
r.us, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent (|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
post test_
5)
Jun  3 08:54:40 nclack postfix/qmgr[1959]: E864846A08: 
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ck.k12.or.us, size=1736, nrcpt=1 (queue active)

Jun  3 08:27:52 nclack postfix/local[23882]: 35B0C46A02: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
r.us, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent (|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
post test_
6)
Jun  3 08:42:28 nclack postfix/qmgr[1959]: B0B2246A07: 
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ck.k12.or.us, size=1752, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Jun  3 08:52:28 nclack postfix/local[27520]: DE71346A09: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
r.us, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent (|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
post test_
6)
Jun  3 08:54:40 nclack postfix/qmgr[1959]: 8F5E7469F4: 
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ck.k12.or.us, size=1736, nrcpt=1 (queue active)

Thanks

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[Mailman-Users] Messages not delivered

2005-05-31 Thread Robert Haack
I'm still having issues when people post to multiple lists.  The message 
will go to some of the lists but not all of the lists.  It not the same 
list that this happens to all the time so I know it's not a particular 
list.  For example I could send a message to list1, list2, list3, and 
list4.  It might go to list1, list2, and list4, but not to list3 or it 
might go to list1, list2, list3 but not list 4.  When I look in the 
mailman post log I see that it sent it to those lists even though the 
email lists all of the lists on it.  I've looked at the qrunner log and 
the only thing in it for the last email that this happened to is the 
following:

May 31 11:52:52 2005 (6715) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 13022, sig: None, sts: 1, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/1) 
[restarting]
May 31 11:52:53 2005 (19872) IncomingRunner qrunner started.

The rest of the logs show nothing went wrong.

At first I thought it was my stopping and restarting Mailman every that 
might be causing the problem but that has proved false with the latest 
email because I stopped that job.  The only other thing I notice is that 
the lock files seem to hang around.  Here is a current list of my lock 
files:

Mailman Lock Directories
-rw-rw-r--  2 mailman mailman 64 May 31  2005 
/var/mailman/locks/middle_sch_prin.lock
-rw-rw-r--  2 mailman mailman 64 May 31  2005 
/var/mailman/locks/middle_sch_prin.lock.nclack.k12.or.us.19872.4
-rw-rw-r--  2 mailman mailman 63 May 31  2005 
/var/mailman/locks/middle_sch_sec.lock
-rw-rw-r--  2 mailman mailman 63 May 31  2005 
/var/mailman/locks/middle_sch_sec.lock.nclack.k12.or.us.15122.0
-rw-rw-r--  2 mailman mailman 55 May 31  2005 /var/mailman/locks/nclack.lock
-rw-rw-r--  1 mailman mailman 55 May 31  2005 
/var/mailman/locks/nclack.lock.nclack.k12.or.us.11183.2
-rw-rw-r--  1 mailman mailman 55 May 31  2005 
/var/mailman/locks/nclack.lock.nclack.k12.or.us.15122.1
-rw-rw-r--  2 mailman mailman 55 May 31  2005 
/var/mailman/locks/nclack.lock.nclack.k12.or.us.19872.3
-rw-rw-r--  1 mailman mailman 55 May 31  2005 
/var/mailman/locks/nclack.lock.nclack.k12.or.us.19872.5
-rw-rw-r--  2 mailman mailman 60 May 31  2005 
/var/mailman/locks/sr_high_sec.lock
-rw-rw-r--  2 mailman mailman 60 May 31  2005 
/var/mailman/locks/sr_high_sec.lock.nclack.k12.or.us.11183.1

These are not overly busy lists so I know the server isn't having bottle 
neck problems.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

TIA

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Programmer Analyst
North Clackamas School District #12
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Monitor qrunner

2005-05-25 Thread Robert Haack
What would happen if during the check you told mailman to stop first?  
Could this mess things up or would it be fine?

Robert Haack
Programmer Analyst
North Clackamas School District #12
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Mark Sapiro wrote:

Jess Mooers wrote:
  

So here is my question:

  Is there a way to monitor qrunner to see if it is running?



If it is running, you will find its pid in data/master-qrunner.pid and
there will also be two files in locks/, one named master-qrunner and
containing the line

master-qrunner.host.example.com.pid

And the second named master-qrunner.host.example.com.pid and having the
same contents where host.example.com is the actual host name and pid
is the actual pid of the master qrunner process.

Thus there are three files that if present will give you the pid of the
master qrunner. Of course, if it died a horrible death, the files
might be left behind, so you also have to check if the pid is running
and is a mailmanctl process. If the files are missing or the pid
doesn't exist or is not a python process invoked with a mailmanctl
command, then the master qrunner isn't running.

  

  Is there a way to start it automatically if it is not?




You can test all of that in a fairly simple shell script which will run

bin/mailmanctl -s -q start

if the master isn't running and then execute that shell script every 5
or 10 minutes with cron.

Or you can just run

bin/mailmanctl start

periodically with cron, but that will generate an error each time it is
done with the master already running.

And don't do 

bin/mailmanctl -s start

without testing first or you'll start multiple masters and qrunners.

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[Mailman-Users] Resend

2005-04-21 Thread Robert Haack
I have a couple messages with attachments that are stuck in the 
qfiles/in directory.  I fixed the parameters after these messages were 
sent so that they would go through next time, but I need to get them to 
through now.  Is there a way to tell Mailman to do this, or will I have 
to have the users resend the messages?  I'm using Fedora Core 2, with 
Postfix and Cyrus.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Resend Update

2005-04-21 Thread Robert Haack
Ok after a little more careful viewing on my part I've found the 
following for settings:

Using the web interface under Content Filtering I have Should Mailman 
filter the content of list traffic according to the settings below? set 
to No. 

To me this would imply that Mailman doesn't care if an attachment is 
part of an email.  If this is true then what else could cause these 
messages to be stuck?  I thought about HTML content in the message 
causing a problem but then I remembered that just yesterday I got a 
message that had HTML in it so that can't be the problem either.  Any ideas?

Thank You
http://nclack.k12.or.us/mailman/admin/all_sub/?VARHELP=contentfilter/filter_content 

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Robert Haack wrote:
I have a couple messages with attachments that are stuck in the 
qfiles/in directory.  I fixed the parameters after these messages were 
sent so that they would go through next time, but I need to get them 
to through now.  Is there a way to tell Mailman to do this, or will I 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Resend Update

2005-04-21 Thread Robert Haack
Ok after a little more careful viewing on my part I've found the 
following for settings:

Using the web interface under Content Filtering I have Should Mailman 
filter the content of list traffic according to the settings below? set 
to No.
To me this would imply that Mailman doesn't care if an attachment is 
part of an email.  If this is true then what else could cause these 
messages to be stuck?  I thought about HTML content in the message 
causing a problem but then I remembered that just yesterday I got a 
message that had HTML in it so that can't be the problem either.  Any 
ideas?

Thank You
Robert Haack
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Robert Haack wrote:
I have a couple messages with attachments that are stuck in the 
qfiles/in directory.  I fixed the parameters after these messages were 
sent so that they would go through next time, but I need to get them 
to through now.  Is there a way to tell Mailman to do this, or will I 
have to have the users resend the messages?  I'm using Fedora Core 2, 
with Postfix and Cyrus.

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[Mailman-Users] Umbrella List

2005-04-18 Thread Robert Haack
I have an umbrella list call all_unit_sec setup with a membership of 5 
other lists.  Also I've added Jim Tittsler patch to allow users on 
another list to post to this list as well as other lists.  My problem is 
that anybody that when a post is sent to this list or any other lists 
the message never goes through, or actually it's like the message never 
arrives.  If I include actual peoples email addresses those seem to go 
through even if I include the all_unit_sec list.  The only other thing I 
can think that could be causing some problems is that we didn't want 
users to be able to subscribe, unsubscribe to any lists so when I added 
the list names to the aliases file I commented out so my aliases file 
looks something like this:

## all_unit_sec mailing list
all_unit_sec:  |/var/mailman/mail/mailman post all_unit_sec
all_unit_sec-admin:|/var/mailman/mail/mailman admin all_unit_sec
all_unit_sec-bounces:  |/var/mailman/mail/mailman bounces all_unit_sec
all_unit_sec-owner:|/var/mailman/mail/mailman owner all_unit_sec
#all_unit_sec-confirm:  |/var/mailman/mail/mailman confirm 
all_unit_sec
#all_unit_sec-join: |/var/mailman/mail/mailman join all_unit_sec
#all_unit_sec-leave:|/var/mailman/mail/mailman leave all_unit_sec
#all_unit_sec-request:  |/var/mailman/mail/mailman request 
all_unit_sec
#all_unit_sec-subscribe:|/var/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe 
all_unit_sec
#all_unit_sec-unsubscribe:  |/var/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe 
all_unit_sec

I done this on other lists and it's not a problem so the only 
correlation I can think of is the fact that it's an umbrella list.  Does 
anybody have any ideas as to what could be going on here?  If so I would 
appreciate some ideas, I need to get this working.

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[Mailman-Users] Debugging Steps

2005-04-11 Thread Robert Haack
I didn't find this in the FAQ or in the archives so I thought I would 
post it here.  I'm trying to resolve a problem I'm having where messages 
that appear to get stuck sometimes my Mailman lists and was wondering 
what steps you would recommend to take to figure out what is causing the 
problem.  Just to give you an overview of the problem so this might make 
more sense.  I had a user send a message to one of our lists list Friday 
at 9:31 AM.  I never saw the message until this morning and the message 
show the correct time the user sent the message but the Mailman log 
shows that it went out yesterday at about 8:00 PM which is about the 
time I rebooted my server.  So if I had some steps to help me figure out 
where to look I'm sure I could figure out what is causing this problem.

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[Mailman-Users] Delayed Message sending

2005-03-16 Thread Robert Haack
I have a user that sent a message to a list and the message did not go 
through right away.  I decided to look at the log files and I found the 
message below:

post:Mar 16 13:21:44 2005 (4221) post to all_sub from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
size=4209, message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 26 failures

Can anybody tell me what the problem could be and any ideas on how to 
resolve this problem?

I'm running Fedora Core 2, with Postfix.  I do have Yum doing updates on 
a daily basis so everything should be the latest version.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto Subscriptions to Mailman list

2005-02-09 Thread Robert Haack
I don't have a script for this purpose only but what I have is a PHP 
program that manages all of the users on my system and when I select a 
user I see all of their information and a list of check boxes for all of 
the different lists that this user could be subscribed to.  It could 
probably be modified easy enough to allow user names to be input so that 
you could do a mass subscription.  I have this program create a shell 
script to subscribe the user using the command line programs.  It may 
not be the most efficient way to do things but it works quite well for 
our purposes.  If you need more info let me know.

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Kory Wheatley wrote:
Question, has anyone written a script to automate the 
subscription/unsubscription request for all mailman lists.  Through 
some type of web form process or through an email client, that a 
certain individual could subscribe/unsubscribe a user to any of the 
mailman lists without being prompted or deal with any confirmation?

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[Mailman-Users] Creating new list from web page

2005-01-20 Thread Robert Haack
I get the following error when I attempt to create a new list from 
Mailman Create page:

 *Error: /You are not authorized to create new mailing lists/*
I checked out the FAQ archive and didn't see anything related to this.  
I can create a list from the command line just fine, just not from the 
MM web page.  Can somebody tell me how to fix this problem?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to 'export' mailman subscriber list

2004-12-14 Thread Robert Haack
If you just want a simple export of user email addresses try the following:
/var/mailman/bin/list_members YourListName  YourListName.txt
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Easy wrote:
How can the full list of subscribers be exported?
I will use the list of subscribers to set up a new mailman listserv - 
in hopes a new setup will resolve the issue of not all subscribers 
receiving the daily email.
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[Mailman-Users] Delete a message

2004-11-10 Thread Robert Haack
I didn't see this in the archives so I thought I would ask. A user sent
a message to a list yesterday.  Do to some problems which I haven't 
figured out yet, I see nothing in the error logs, the message never got 
sent.  The user needed the message to go out so he used our old list 
serv to do this.  What I want to do is stop this message from being 
delivered.  So is there some way to see if there are messages that are 
ready to be sent and then delete those messages? 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Authorized Users

2004-10-07 Thread Robert Haack

On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 10:02:48AM -0700, Robert Haack wrote:
 

Ok, I got the patch and applied it and I checked the source files and 
the patches are applied.  Then I tried it out and it didn't work so it 
dawned on me that I need to compile it first.  I've tried to compile it 
but I get the following error:
   

Normally you would apply it to the source of Mailman, and the
'make install' step would compile it for you.
 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gui]# python -O GUIBase.py   (I've tried it with and without 
the -O)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File GUIBase.py, line 22, in ?
 from Mailman import mm_cfg
ImportError: No module named Mailman
   

I suspect you are applying it directly to your Mailman
installation.  The easiest thing to do would be to just remove
the old GUIBase.pyc file.  If the directory has mailman group
write permissions, the compiled file will be automatically
written the next time it is used.
(And remember to restart mailman patching.)
Ok, I deleted the files GUIBase.pyc, GUIBase.pyo, Moderate.pyc, and 
Moderate.pyo.  Then just to make sure that Mailman was restarted I 
rebooted the server.  (I know I could have done this differently but it 
was late and I was too lazy to do it another way).  But this still is 
not working for me.  I did check the the GUIBase.pyc and Moderate.pyc 
files are now back so I know that they recompiled themselves.

Here is what I have done. 
1) I created a list called test and subscribed myself using my work 
email address.
2) I created another list called Auth_users and I subscribed myself 
using my home email address.
3) I went into the test list serv under Privacy Options, Sender Filters 
and input @Auth_users in the accept these non-members.

Then I send a message from my home email address and I get a message 
back telling me the my message has to be approved by the moderator.  So 
what's going on and why didn't it go through? 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Authorized Users

2004-10-07 Thread Robert Haack

On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 10:02:48AM -0700, Robert Haack wrote:
 

Ok, I got the patch and applied it and I checked the source files 
and the patches are applied.  Then I tried it out and it didn't work 
so it dawned on me that I need to compile it first.  I've tried to 
compile it but I get the following error:
  

Normally you would apply it to the source of Mailman, and the
'make install' step would compile it for you.
 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gui]# python -O GUIBase.py   (I've tried it with and 
without the -O)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File GUIBase.py, line 22, in ?
 from Mailman import mm_cfg
ImportError: No module named Mailman
  

I suspect you are applying it directly to your Mailman
installation.  The easiest thing to do would be to just remove
the old GUIBase.pyc file.  If the directory has mailman group
write permissions, the compiled file will be automatically
written the next time it is used.
(And remember to restart mailman patching.)
Ok, I deleted the files GUIBase.pyc, GUIBase.pyo, Moderate.pyc, and 
Moderate.pyo.  Then just to make sure that Mailman was restarted I 
rebooted the server.  (I know I could have done this differently but 
it was late and I was too lazy to do it another way).  But this still 
is not working for me.  I did check the the GUIBase.pyc and 
Moderate.pyc files are now back so I know that they recompiled 
themselves.

Here is what I have done. 1) I created a list called test and 
subscribed myself using my work email address.
2) I created another list called Auth_users and I subscribed myself 
using my home email address.
3) I went into the test list serv under Privacy Options, Sender 
Filters and input @Auth_users in the accept these non-members.

Then I send a message from my home email address and I get a message 
back telling me the my message has to be approved by the moderator.  
So what's going on and why didn't it go through?
Thank You
Ok, this gets more curious now.  I created another list called 
Authorized and I put my alternate email address in that list.  Then I 
changed the test list so so that the accept these non-members had 
@authorized.  I got one message through but then I could not longer seem 
to get into the lists test or authorized via the web interface or via 
the command line.  So I deleted both of these lists and started fresh.  
I created test as a list again but this time I gave my authorized list a 
new name, nclack.  I then made it so that @nclack was sin the Accept 
these non-members.  I sent two messages, one as a member of the list 
test and then the other as the user I input in the nclack list.  I got 
no messages at all, so I stopped Mailman and then restarted it.  Within 
two minutes I had both of my emails.  I'm not sure what is going on here 
but I found this rather odd. 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Authorized Users

2004-10-06 Thread Robert Haack
Thanks for the patch this should help out greatly.
Ok, I got the patch and applied it and I checked the source files and 
the patches are applied.  Then I tried it out and it didn't work so it 
dawned on me that I need to compile it first.  I've tried to compile it 
but I get the following error:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gui]# python -O GUIBase.py   (I've tried it with and without 
the -O)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File GUIBase.py, line 22, in ?
  from Mailman import mm_cfg
ImportError: No module named Mailman

So what am I missing here?  I've never used Python before so any help is 
appreciated.

Thanks in Advance.
Robert Haack
Robert Haack wrote:
 

I'm new to this list and to using Mailman.  Please forgive me if this 
question has been asked before but I could not find it in my search 
through the archives. On our old list serv software we had the ability 
to create a group of authorized users who could post to any of 15 lists 
without being subscribed to that list.  Is there any way to do the same 
sort of thing with Mailman?  I tried to create a list called Auth_users 
and then put this list in the List of non-member addresses whose 
postings should be automatically accepted but that did not work.  Any 
ideas would be greatly appreciated, I'd prefer not to have to go into 
each list and make changes every time.
   

See the post at
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[Mailman-Users] Authorized Users

2004-10-05 Thread Robert Haack
I'm new to this list and to using Mailman.  Please forgive me if this 
question has been asked before but I could not find it in my search 
through the archives. On our old list serv software we had the ability 
to create a group of authorized users who could post to any of 15 lists 
without being subscribed to that list.  Is there any way to do the same 
sort of thing with Mailman?  I tried to create a list called Auth_users 
and then put this list in the List of non-member addresses whose 
postings should be automatically accepted but that did not work.  Any 
ideas would be greatly appreciated, I'd prefer not to have to go into 
each list and make changes every time.

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