Re: Rel: [Mailman-Users] feature - multiple web views for adminlists
Well, I have run into a problem with this.
When I visit the admin page for any list I get 'inconsistent dedent' In
apache's logs.
Any ideas?
THank you!
On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 12:20, Bob Weissman wrote:
> At 09:55 AM 5/21/02, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
> >Terry Davis wrote:
> >> Thank you for your reply. Where can I read up on how to 'recompile' for
> >> that directory? What config files much I change, etc.
> >
> >When that's done, recompile, and reinstall. Do this for each individual vhost.
>
> You don't need to do this. One installation of Mailman is sufficient for multiple
>vhosts. I have this running just fine on my site. You have to be willing to patch
>Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, but this is much cleaner than having multiple copies of Mailman.
>
> 1. Create your virtual hosts, if you haven't already. Make sure your vhosts are
>pointing to Mailman for cgi, icons, and pipermail. For Apache, this is (depending on
>where ~mailman lives):
>
> ScriptAlias /mailman /usr/home/mailman/cgi-bin
>
> AllowOverride None
> Options None
> Order allow,deny
> Allow from all
>
> Alias /icons /usr/home/mailman/icons
> Alias /pipermail /usr/home/mailman/archives/private
>
> This goes inside your sections of vhosts.conf for each vhost.
>
> 2. In your Mailman/mm_config.py file, make sure that VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW is set to
>1. (I use 2, which is nonstandard, to get an exact vhost match rather than the
>standard substring match. See patch below. If you have vhost names which are
>substrings of each other, you will need to use 2 and you will also need to change
>listinfo.py similarly to admin.py.)
>
> 3. Apply the patch below to admin.py. This copies some vhost-discrimination code
>from listinfo.py to admin.py. It works for 2.0.9 and above (I haven't tried it on
>older versions.)
>
> 4. For each list, change the web_page_url to point to the virtual host. This is the
>bottom-most parameter on the main admin page for each list. You may need to wait some
>time for the DNS records of the new vhosts to propagate before people can access the
>pages.
>
> - Bob
>
> Patch follows
>
> *** admin.py.ORIG Thu May 9 12:24:58 2002
> --- admin.pyThu May 9 12:32:06 2002
> ***
> *** 25,30
> --- 25,31
> import types
> import rfc822
> import signal
> + from urlparse import urlparse
>
> from Mailman import Utils
> from Mailman import MailList
> ***
> *** 200,205
> --- 201,229
> for n in names:
> l = MailList.MailList(n, lock=0)
> if l.advertised:
> + # Following cloned from listinfo.py - BW 5/9/02
> + # XXX We need a portable way to determine the host by which we are being
> + # visited! An absolute URL would do...
> + http_host = os.environ.get('HTTP_HOST', os.environ.get('SERVER_NAME'))
> + port = os.environ.get('SERVER_PORT')
> + # strip off the port if there is one
> + if port and http_host[-len(port)-1:] == ':'+port:
> + http_host = http_host[:-len(port)-1]
> + if mm_cfg.VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW:
> + if mm_cfg.VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW == 2: # Want an exact match
> + # extract the host part of the url
> + host_part = urlparse(l.web_page_url)[1]
> + # remove the port, if any
> + host_part = string.split(host_part, ":")[0]
> + if http_host and host_part != http_host:
> + # List is for different vhost - skip it.
> + continue
> + else: # Want a simple containment match
> + if http_host and \
> + string.find(http_host, l.web_page_url) == -1 and \
> + string.find(l.web_page_url, http_host) == -1:
> + # List is for different identity of this host - skip it.
> + continue
> advertised.append(l)
>
> if error:
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Re: Rel: [Mailman-Users] feature - multiple web views for adminlists
Nice hack
I indeed like this better. In that time I was able to switch things
over and everything works great!
On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 12:20, Bob Weissman wrote:
> At 09:55 AM 5/21/02, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
> >Terry Davis wrote:
> >> Thank you for your reply. Where can I read up on how to 'recompile' for
> >> that directory? What config files much I change, etc.
> >
> >When that's done, recompile, and reinstall. Do this for each individual vhost.
>
> You don't need to do this. One installation of Mailman is sufficient for multiple
>vhosts. I have this running just fine on my site. You have to be willing to patch
>Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, but this is much cleaner than having multiple copies of Mailman.
>
> 1. Create your virtual hosts, if you haven't already. Make sure your vhosts are
>pointing to Mailman for cgi, icons, and pipermail. For Apache, this is (depending on
>where ~mailman lives):
>
> ScriptAlias /mailman /usr/home/mailman/cgi-bin
>
> AllowOverride None
> Options None
> Order allow,deny
> Allow from all
>
> Alias /icons /usr/home/mailman/icons
> Alias /pipermail /usr/home/mailman/archives/private
>
> This goes inside your sections of vhosts.conf for each vhost.
>
> 2. In your Mailman/mm_config.py file, make sure that VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW is set to
>1. (I use 2, which is nonstandard, to get an exact vhost match rather than the
>standard substring match. See patch below. If you have vhost names which are
>substrings of each other, you will need to use 2 and you will also need to change
>listinfo.py similarly to admin.py.)
>
> 3. Apply the patch below to admin.py. This copies some vhost-discrimination code
>from listinfo.py to admin.py. It works for 2.0.9 and above (I haven't tried it on
>older versions.)
>
> 4. For each list, change the web_page_url to point to the virtual host. This is the
>bottom-most parameter on the main admin page for each list. You may need to wait some
>time for the DNS records of the new vhosts to propagate before people can access the
>pages.
>
> - Bob
>
> Patch follows
>
> *** admin.py.ORIG Thu May 9 12:24:58 2002
> --- admin.pyThu May 9 12:32:06 2002
> ***
> *** 25,30
> --- 25,31
> import types
> import rfc822
> import signal
> + from urlparse import urlparse
>
> from Mailman import Utils
> from Mailman import MailList
> ***
> *** 200,205
> --- 201,229
> for n in names:
> l = MailList.MailList(n, lock=0)
> if l.advertised:
> + # Following cloned from listinfo.py - BW 5/9/02
> + # XXX We need a portable way to determine the host by which we are being
> + # visited! An absolute URL would do...
> + http_host = os.environ.get('HTTP_HOST', os.environ.get('SERVER_NAME'))
> + port = os.environ.get('SERVER_PORT')
> + # strip off the port if there is one
> + if port and http_host[-len(port)-1:] == ':'+port:
> + http_host = http_host[:-len(port)-1]
> + if mm_cfg.VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW:
> + if mm_cfg.VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW == 2: # Want an exact match
> + # extract the host part of the url
> + host_part = urlparse(l.web_page_url)[1]
> + # remove the port, if any
> + host_part = string.split(host_part, ":")[0]
> + if http_host and host_part != http_host:
> + # List is for different vhost - skip it.
> + continue
> + else: # Want a simple containment match
> + if http_host and \
> + string.find(http_host, l.web_page_url) == -1 and \
> + string.find(l.web_page_url, http_host) == -1:
> + # List is for different identity of this host - skip it.
> + continue
> advertised.append(l)
>
> if error:
--
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Re: Rel: [Mailman-Users] feature - multiple web views for adminlists
Great! One last question... You are saying 'vhost'. Do I have to have an explicit vhost in apache or can there be one vhost pointing to the root dir '/home/mailman' ? On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 11:55, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: > Terry Davis wrote: > > > Thank you for your reply. Where can I read up on how to 'recompile' for > > that directory? What config files much I change, etc. > > Add a prefix to your configure line: > > --prefix=/home/mailman/vhost > > When that's done, recompile, and reinstall. Do this for each individual vhost. > > -- > W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. > + > Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 > IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 > Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 > http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. > > -- Terry Davis http://approbation.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: Rel: [Mailman-Users] feature - multiple web views for adminlists
On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 11:48, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: > Terry Davis wrote: > > > Yes, I have complete control over my machine. So I can simply have a > > separate installation for each v-host basically? > > > > /home/mailman/install1 > > /home/mailman/install2 > > /home/mailman/install3 > > Yes. I have this setup on my server. > > > > If that is the case, how can I move an existing installation to a > > different directory? > > Yes, as long as you a) recompile it for that directory, and b) run >~mailman//bin/move_list afterwards. Read 'move_list -h' for more >information. Thank you for your reply. Where can I read up on how to 'recompile' for that directory? What config files much I change, etc. Thank you!! -- Terry Davis http://approbation.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: Rel: [Mailman-Users] feature - multiple web views for adminlists
On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 09:32, Bob Weissman wrote: > At 11:59 PM 5/20/02, you wrote: > >Do I need to have separate installations for something like this? I really >appreciate any ideas. > >I am using 2.0.8 right now. > > > >>I have several administrators. I want them only to see the lists they > >>are responsible for. Is this possible somehow? > > There is no feature for this. Do you have enough privileges on your machine to >create virtual hosts? If so, you can create one vhost for each administrator and >they'll see only their own lists. > > - Bob Yes, I have complete control over my machine. So I can simply have a separate installation for each v-host basically? /home/mailman/install1 /home/mailman/install2 /home/mailman/install3 Like this ^ ? If that is the case, how can I move an existing installation to a different directory? -- Terry Davis http://approbation.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Rel: [Mailman-Users] feature - multiple web views for admin lists
Do I need to have separate installations for something like this? I really appreciate any ideas. I am using 2.0.8 right now. >Hello, > >I have several administrators. I want them only to see the lists they >are responsible for. Is this possible somehow? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] feature - multiple web views for admin lists
Hello, I have several administrators. I want them only to see the lists they are responsible for. Is this possible somehow? thank you! -- Terry Davis http://approbation.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] send digest command
This works perfectly. I thank you very much for responding to my email! I think I need to learn a bit of python. On Thu, 2002-02-21 at 18:06, Jon Carnes wrote: > POC! Copy the file ~mailman/cron/senddigests to > ~mailman/cron/senddigest > Next, edit the new file so that it only runs the digest for > (get rid of the first "for" statement and in the second statement, change > 'listname' to '""') > > I think that should work. If not play with it a bit on a test list. It > shouldn't take more than an hour to get it working the way you want. > > Now when you want to send a digest for that specific list run: > /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/senddigest > > Hope this helps, >Jon Carnes > > - Original Message - > From: "Michael Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 2:28 AM > Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] send digest command > > > > > > No idea. I'd check the documentation. I believe (and I haven't researched > > this) that it will trigger digests for all lists on that particular > Mailman > > system. I'm sure if I'm wrong someone will pipe in that knows a bit more > > about it. > > > > > > >From: "Terry Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >Thank you and excuse me for my laziness. :( > > > > > >This suggests all lists. Can this be done on a per list or per user > basis? > > > > > >Thank you once again! > > > > > >-- > > >Terry Davis > > >Systems Administrator > > >BirdDog Solutions, Inc. > > > > > > > > >Quoting Michael Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > Always helps to help oneself and do a bit of reading. > > > > > > http://www.list.org/admins.html > > > > > > Cron scripts > > > Mailman comes with a number of scripts that are typically only run by > > >cron. > > > However, it is generally okay for the site administrator to run these > > > scripts manually, say to force a sending of accumulated digests, or to > > >mail > > > out member passwords, etc. You generally run these by invoking the > Python > > > executable on them, like so: > > > % cd /home/mailman > > > % python -S cron/senddigests > > > > > > The -S option is an optimization and (minor) security recommendation; > it > > > inhibits Python's implicit import site on initialization. Not all of > > >these > > > scripts support the --help option. Here is a brief description of what > > >the > > > cron scripts do: > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Terry Davis > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:10 PM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: [Mailman-Users] send digest command > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it possible to force a digest somehow? Like with a command either > > > > sent over email or directly out of cron on the box? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Terry Davis > > > > Systems Administrator > > > > BirdDog Solutions, Inc. > > > > (402) 829-6059 > > > > www.birddog.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > > > > > > > > > _ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > > > > -- > > Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] send digest command
Is it possible to force a digest somehow? Like with a command either sent over email or directly out of cron on the box? -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
RE: [Mailman-Users] send digest command
Thank you and excuse me for my laziness. :( This suggests all lists. Can this be done on a per list or per user basis? Thank you once again! -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. Quoting Michael Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Always helps to help oneself and do a bit of reading. http://www.list.org/admins.html Cron scripts Mailman comes with a number of scripts that are typically only run by cron. However, it is generally okay for the site administrator to run these scripts manually, say to force a sending of accumulated digests, or to mail out member passwords, etc. You generally run these by invoking the Python executable on them, like so: % cd /home/mailman % python -S cron/senddigests The -S option is an optimization and (minor) security recommendation; it inhibits Python's implicit import site on initialization. Not all of these scripts support the --help option. Here is a brief description of what the cron scripts do: > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Terry Davis > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:10 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Mailman-Users] send digest command > > > Is it possible to force a digest somehow? Like with a command either > sent over email or directly out of cron on the box? > > -- > Terry Davis > Systems Administrator > BirdDog Solutions, Inc. > (402) 829-6059 > www.birddog.com > > > -- > Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > > -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] send digest command
Is it possible to force a digest somehow? Like with a command either sent over email or directly out of cron on the box? -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] implicit destination - help
For compatibility reasons, I created virtuser entries for all of my lists. There are some old email addresses that people use to use for the list functions. For example: [EMAIL PROTECTED] has a virtuser of [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it will require approval. What can I do to get around the approval? Thank you -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] create list via web
Excuse me if this is obvious. Is there a way to create/delete a list via a webpage? I am not seeing these options. Thank you -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] nntp / mailman sync
Henrik Lewander wrote: >>Thank you for your reply! I am using version 2.0.7. The "error" log >>shows nothing. The usenet log shows this every 5 minutes: >>Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) test: [1..3] >>Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) nothing new for list test >>Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) test watermark: 7 >>Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) customers-ups: [1..3] >>Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) nothing new for list customers-ups >>Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) customers-ups watermark: 3 >> >>However, there are new posts in the "test" newsgroup that did not get >>put on the test list. I have the information in mailman setup >>correctly, just verified. >> >>It may be working intermittently because the customers.ups group had a >>few posts that made it to the customers-ups list. I am not certain as >>to why that one worked however. It also seems as if it took a while for >>them to appear on the list as well. >> >>I hope this helps. >> >>Thank you! >> > > Go to your webconfiguration and and say yes to "Should Mailman perform a > catchup on the newsgroup?" under "Mail-News and News-Mail gateways" for > test. That should reset your "watermark" for the list. > > Regards Henrik > -- > ( http://henrik.lewander.com ][ Husaberg FE 400 > ) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ Aprilia RS 250 > c[] Join the Aprilia RS webring at > http://henrik.lewander.com/mc/aprilia/ring > I get how that works now, thank you! -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] nntp / mailman sync
Jon Carnes wrote: Since it is posting to the News server, the News server information must be correct. - What version of Mailman are you using? - Look in the log files ~mailman/logs/.. and tell us if you see any errors or warnings Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: "Terry Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 1:42 PM Subject: [Mailman-Users] nntp / mailman sync Hello, I am having difficulty keeping my news server and lists in sync. When a message is posted the the list, mailman updates the newsgroup just fine. However, if a post is made to the newsgroup, the list is not updated. There is an option in the admin pages of mailman that says this should happen for me: "Should new posts to the newsgroup be sent to the mailing list?" What am I doing wrong here? Thank you all for any help! -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Thank you for your reply! I am using version 2.0.7. The "error" log shows nothing. The usenet log shows this every 5 minutes: Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) test: [1..3] Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) nothing new for list test Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) test watermark: 7 Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) customers-ups: [1..3] Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) nothing new for list customers-ups Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) customers-ups watermark: 3 However, there are new posts in the "test" newsgroup that did not get put on the test list. I have the information in mailman setup correctly, just verified. It may be working intermittently because the customers.ups group had a few posts that made it to the customers-ups list. I am not certain as to why that one worked however. It also seems as if it took a while for them to appear on the list as well. I hope this helps. Thank you! -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] nntp / mailman sync
Hello, I am having difficulty keeping my news server and lists in sync. When a message is posted the the list, mailman updates the newsgroup just fine. However, if a post is made to the newsgroup, the list is not updated. There is an option in the admin pages of mailman that says this should happen for me: "Should new posts to the newsgroup be sent to the mailing list?" What am I doing wrong here? Thank you all for any help! -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] nntp gateway | list to NNTP works but NNTP to list does not
My question was, I want to keep a newsgroup and a list in sync. I am seeing that when a post is made to the list, the mailman updates the newsgroup, but if a new post is made to the newsgroup, the list is NOT updated. What am I missing? Thank you all for your patience with me. Terry >ummm, its in the administration pages in the news mail gateway section. >-- >Terry Davis >Systems Administrator >BirdDog Solutions, Inc. >(402) 829-6059 >Quoting Justin Zygmont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > hi, where did you setup that option? > > > > On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Terry Davis wrote: > > > There is an option in the gateway setup that says: > > Should new posts to the newsgroup be sent to the mailing list? > > > > I have that marked as yes but I am not seeing new posts to the nntp > > group being shot over to the mailing list. What am I missing here? > > > > Thank you! > > > > -- > > Terry Davis > > Systems Administrator > > BirdDog Solutions, Inc. > > (402) 829-6059 > > www.birddog.com > > > > > > -- > > Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > > > -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] no require password for unsubscribe?
Hrm, ya and you cant even specify a blank password when subscribing, that makes things harder. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > unfortunately, i don't have an answer to that one yet...i'm looking > though...and trying to do something similar. Most of the users on my > list fall into the computer illiterate category too... > > Ron > > -Original Message- > From: tdavis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 3:12 PM > To: mailman-users > Cc: tdavis > Subject: FW: Re: [Mailman-Users] no require password for unsubscribe? > > > Anyone have an answer for me here? Here is my original question: > I want to be able to allow my users to unsubscribe from a list without a > > password. How can I setup a list this way? > > > > Michael Johnson (firewing) wrote: > > >>If nothing else (security concerns aside), it'll alleviate confusion >> > on > >>subscribers' part who often get frustrated when they don't realize (or >> > >>read the message they are sent or the information pages) that to unsub >> > >>they need their password. >> >>At 04:44 PM 1/10/2002 -0600, you wrote: >> >> >>>I want to be able to allow my users to unsubscribe from a list >>> > without > >>>a password. I understand this can be dangerous but this is a >>>controlled list and my users are going to be sub-par as far as >>>intelligence goes. I notice that when I do a mass subscribe, it >>>auto-generates a password for every user, if I could make that blank >>>somehow, that would rock. But would the password being blank mean >>>there is no password? >>> >>>Thank you! >>> >>>-- >>>Terry Davis >>>Systems Administrator >>>BirdDog Solutions, Inc. >>>(402) 829-6059 >>>www.birddog.com >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >>> > > > > > -- > Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > > > -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] no require password for unsubscribe?
Anyone have an answer for me here? Here is my original question: I want to be able to allow my users to unsubscribe from a list without a password. How can I setup a list this way? Michael Johnson (firewing) wrote: > If nothing else (security concerns aside), it'll alleviate confusion on > subscribers' part who often get frustrated when they don't realize (or > read the message they are sent or the information pages) that to unsub > they need their password. > > At 04:44 PM 1/10/2002 -0600, you wrote: > >> I want to be able to allow my users to unsubscribe from a list without >> a password. I understand this can be dangerous but this is a >> controlled list and my users are going to be sub-par as far as >> intelligence goes. I notice that when I do a mass subscribe, it >> auto-generates a password for every user, if I could make that blank >> somehow, that would rock. But would the password being blank mean >> there is no password? >> >> Thank you! >> >> -- >> Terry Davis >> Systems Administrator >> BirdDog Solutions, Inc. >> (402) 829-6059 >> www.birddog.com >> >> >> -- >> Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] a few questions
are you upgrading your mailman or is it a new install ? Justin Zygmont wrote: > when I get to the 'make install' step everythink looks fine except for > this last part: > > Upgrading from version 0x0 to 0x20008f0 > no lists == nothing to do, exiting > > Please let me know if this is still ok, or I have midded something. I > cannot get meail man to work and i've tried several times. > > > I just want to verify this to make sure i'm getting it right, > --with-mail-gid should be the GID of 'DefaultUser' in /etc/sendmail.cf? > the DefaultUser is 'mail' and it's GID is 12 > > thanks.. > > > > -- > Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] nntp gateway | list to NNTP works but NNTP to list does not
ummm, its in the administration pages in the news mail gateway section. -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 Quoting Justin Zygmont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > hi, where did you setup that option? > > > > On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Terry Davis wrote: > > > There is an option in the gateway setup that says: > > Should new posts to the newsgroup be sent to the mailing list? > > > > I have that marked as yes but I am not seeing new posts to the nntp > > group being shot over to the mailing list. What am I missing here? > > > > Thank you! > > > > -- > > Terry Davis > > Systems Administrator > > BirdDog Solutions, Inc. > > (402) 829-6059 > > www.birddog.com > > > > > > -- > > Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > > > -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] no require password for unsubscribe?
Michael Johnson (firewing) wrote: > If nothing else (security concerns aside), it'll alleviate confusion on > subscribers' part who often get frustrated when they don't realize (or > read the message they are sent or the information pages) that to unsub > they need their password. > > At 04:44 PM 1/10/2002 -0600, you wrote: > >> I want to be able to allow my users to unsubscribe from a list without >> a password. I understand this can be dangerous but this is a >> controlled list and my users are going to be sub-par as far as >> intelligence goes. I notice that when I do a mass subscribe, it >> auto-generates a password for every user, if I could make that blank >> somehow, that would rock. But would the password being blank mean >> there is no password? >> >> Thank you! >> >> -- >> Terry Davis >> Systems Administrator >> BirdDog Solutions, Inc. >> (402) 829-6059 >> www.birddog.com >> >> >> -- >> Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > I agree, but that doesnt answer my question of how. :) Thank you -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] no require password for unsubscribe?
I want to be able to allow my users to unsubscribe from a list without a password. I understand this can be dangerous but this is a controlled list and my users are going to be sub-par as far as intelligence goes. I notice that when I do a mass subscribe, it auto-generates a password for every user, if I could make that blank somehow, that would rock. But would the password being blank mean there is no password? Thank you! -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] nntp gateway | list to NNTP works but NNTP to list does not
There is an option in the gateway setup that says: Should new posts to the newsgroup be sent to the mailing list? I have that marked as yes but I am not seeing new posts to the nntp group being shot over to the mailing list. What am I missing here? Thank you! -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] listname - first letter capitalized
Well, I am thinking more along the lines of cosmetics. When the person receives an email the FROM would say [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a almost a silly discussion but I expected it to be lower-cased since that is that I typed. BUT The RFCs state that you have to retain case in user addresses, in the event that the machine at the other end needs that information. Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: > Terry Davis wrote: > > >>This seems a bit weird to me. When I create a new list "foobar-list", the name >turns out to be "Foobar-list". This seems not correct to me. If I type all lower >cased, I expect that. Am I off base here? >> > > Does it really matter though? Most MTA's I'm aware of are case insensitive, so >sending email to 'foobar-list' or 'Foobar-list' will still go to the same list. You >can always change the case of the list name on the administration page, but as far as >your MTA goes, it _shouldn't_ matter. > > -- > H | "Life is the art of drawing without an eraser." - John Gardner > + > Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 > Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 > Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 > http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. > > > > -- > Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] listname - first letter capitalized
This seems a bit weird to me. When I create a new list "foobar-list", the name turns out to be "Foobar-list". This seems not correct to me. If I type all lower cased, I expect that. Am I off base here? Thanks for your thoughts. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman not being nice...
I figured out the problem with the hostname being used vs the name I specified. I am quite embarrassed to admit it but it should be a lesson that everyone should learn from. The name I was using was being used before as a web host. http://lists.domain.com/ I changed it and turned it into a mail host. I forgot to change it from a CNAME to an A record. This is why they tell you not to point CNAMEs and MX records. :) Thank you to all for trying. Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: > Terry Davis wrote: > > >>well, just FYI, I deleted and re-created the list with the new 'hacked' >>scripts and it still comes from hostname.domain.com. stupid. >> > > Go kick sendmail... :) Honestly, I don't think this is Mailman anymore. > > -- > W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. > + > Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 > IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 > Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 > http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. > > -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman not being nice...
no, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Raymond Tant wrote: > Your problem might be in your MTA. Does your local user mail show up as > [EMAIL PROTECTED]? > > Ray > > >>>>Terry Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01/09/02 03:41PM >>> >>>> > I am really confused. If any developers can help me/us out with this, > it would be greatly appreciated. > > Mailman is using hostname.domain.com as the domain of the lists. Like > [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus using what I have specified > in my mm_cfg.py file. > > Thank you > > Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: > > >>Terry Davis wrote: >> >> >> >>>hrm >>> >>>'host_name': 'lists.birddog.com', >>> >>> >>Okay, so that should also match the hostname visible in the admin pages (want to >verify that?). >>What the hee... This is where I personally would nuke everything, including my >sendmail config, and >>start rom scratch. However, I would push this back up to the list and wait for one >of the developers >>to answer... This has me baffled as well. >> >>-- >>W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. >> + >> Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 >> IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 >> Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 >> http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. >> >> >> > > > -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman not being nice...
I am really confused. If any developers can help me/us out with this, it would be greatly appreciated. Mailman is using hostname.domain.com as the domain of the lists. Like [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus using what I have specified in my mm_cfg.py file. Thank you Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: > Terry Davis wrote: > > >>hrm >> >> 'host_name': 'lists.birddog.com', >> > > Okay, so that should also match the hostname visible in the admin pages (want to >verify that?). > What the hee... This is where I personally would nuke everything, including my >sendmail config, and > start rom scratch. However, I would push this back up to the list and wait for one >of the developers > to answer... This has me baffled as well. > > -- > W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. > + > Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 > IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 > Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 > http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. > > -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] mail coming from different hostname than specified
I use sendmail. I have the hostname and fqdn lists.domain.com in my Fw file. If it was masquerading all mail out with this hostname, then all my email would say it was from [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than [EMAIL PROTECTED] like it is now. Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: > Richard Idalski wrote: > > >>WOuld this not be more of a problem with either your MTA's aliases file, or >>with your MTA's configuration file tacking the wrong name on there? For >>instance if you're running sendmail check your sendmail.cf file to see what >>it has, or if you're running postfix chekc the main.cf file. Not sure if >>that would have any bearing, but worth a look. >> > > That would be more with the MASQUERADING option, rather than the alias > file, but yes it's entirely possible his MTA is masquerading all outgoing email > - that was my next suggestion. > > -- > W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. > + > Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 > IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 > Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 > http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. > > -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] mail coming from different hostname than specified
Yes, that is in my mm_cfg.py file. Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: > Terry Davis wrote: > > >>I have the following set: >>DEFAULT_HOST_NAME = 'lists.domain.com' >>DEFAULT_URL = 'http://lists/mailman' >> > > In which file? They need to be in ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py: > > grep DEFAULT mm_cfg.py >DEFAULT_HOST_NAME = 'lists.diarist.net' ># DEFAULT_URL must end in a slash! >DEFAULT_URL = 'http://lists.diarist.net/mailman/' > > [ NOTE: the system itself is battle.yeehaw.net > running three different [lists] domains, hence the > 'lists.diarist.net' in the PATH info ] > > > -- > W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. > + > Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . 303.442.6410 x130 > IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 > Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 > http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. > > -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] mail coming from different hostname than specified
Hello, Support here has been great. Things are working out well. With one exception. I have an a-record set up that I am using (lists). When I send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], the response comes back from [EMAIL PROTECTED] where hostname is the actual hostname of the server. How can I fix this? I have the following set: DEFAULT_HOST_NAME = 'lists.domain.com' DEFAULT_URL = 'http://lists/mailman' thank you! -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] list access
I want to only allow access to my lists from people with @domain.com addresses. Is this possible? -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] cant get webpage to work
Hello, I am having some difficulty getting the web part of mailman to work. I wanted to create a V-host in apache called lists.domain.com and point everything to a directory. But I am not quiet sure what directory to point it to. Also, it defaults to the path of http://lists/mailman/listinfo/listname I cannot find mailman or listinfo directories in anything I extracted from mailman. The instructions are kinda sparse in the docs. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
