Re: [Mailman-Users] problem with mailman not working...

2012-01-16 Thread Troy Campbell
Thanks again.  Observations: Somehow the stale lock was stopping all 
emails from going out
and secondly, /var/lock/mailman is where the lock was.  I'm not sure how 
I happened to figure
that lock location out as it isn't ~mailman/locks.  Perhaps my config is 
non-standard.


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On 1/13/2012 4:11 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

Troy Campbell wrote:


It appears there was a list that created locks in /var/lock/mailman so I
deleted this list and recreated it
and life seems to be good again...thanks again man for the excellent
support!


I'm glad things are again working well for you, but deleting and
recreating the list was probably overkill. The FAQ at
http://wiki.list.org/x/noA9  gives information about clearing
stale/orphaned locks. I have now added a pointer to this FAQ from
section 7 of the FAQ athttp://wiki.list.org/x/A4E9.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] problem with mailman not working...

2012-01-13 Thread Troy Campbell
It appears there was a list that created locks in /var/lock/mailman so I 
deleted this list and recreated it
and life seems to be good again...thanks again man for the excellent 
support!


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On 1/12/2012 8:05 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

On 1/12/2012 6:09 PM, Troy Campbell wrote:


It seems to be recognizing the email as local now:

Jan 12 18:57:27 request1 sendmail[3015]: q0D1vRSU003015:
to=troyt...@mailman.rmtc.fedex.com, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:00,
xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30076, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1],
dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (Ok: queued as C7FE237878)
Jan 12 18:57:28 request1 postfix/local[1069]: C7FE237878:
to=troyt...@mailman2.rmtc.fedex.com, relay=local, delay=0.23,
delays=0.07/0/0/0.16, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command:
/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post troytest)

No email is coming out though?  It should be expanding to my email
address?


OK. The mail was piped to the wrapper to be posted to the list, so now
it's getting to Mailman.

See the FAQ athttp://wiki.list.org/x/A4E9, particularly sections 2b,
6b, 7, 8, 9 and 13.


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[Mailman-Users] problem with mailman not working...

2012-01-12 Thread Troy Campbell
For some reason Mailman just stopped working and I must confess that I 
have forgot how to debug since it

has run so well for the last couple of years...it appears
that when a Mailman email is sent to the Mailman server it that it 
doesn't recognize it as local but instead tries to
relay out and then the relay sends it back and this happens multilple 
times if I'm reading the logs right so I assume
that the aliases file for the Mailman lists isn't being recognized 
properly by Postfix?


Here is some info (yes, I know it's ancient):

rpm -qa | grep -i mailman
mailman-2.1.9-4.el5

/etc/postfix/main.cf:
alias_maps =hash:/etc/aliases
hash:/etc/mailman/aliases

and in /etc/mailman/aliases it has the list troytest with this:
# STANZA START: troytest
# CREATED: Sun Mar 14 19:20:17 2010
troytest: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post troytest
troytest-admin:   |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin troytest
troytest-bounces: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces troytest
troytest-confirm: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm troytest
troytest-join:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join troytest
troytest-leave:   |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave troytest
troytest-owner:   |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner troytest
troytest-request: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request troytest
troytest-subscribe:   |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe troytest
troytest-unsubscribe: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe troytest
# STANZA END: troytest

There is also a python process owned by mailman that is varying between 
75-100% of the CPU.


I realize that Postfix per se is out of the scope of this list but any 
suggestions/tips are sincerely appreciated.
My current thinking is I need to run a postmap command to update the 
aliases config perhaps?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] problem with mailman not working...

2012-01-12 Thread Troy Campbell

Thanks so much Mark...see inline replies below

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On 1/12/2012 5:48 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

Troy Campbell wrote:


For some reason Mailman just stopped working and I must confess that I
have forgot how to debug since it
has run so well for the last couple of years...it appears
that when a Mailman email is sent to the Mailman server it that it
doesn't recognize it as local but instead tries to
relay out and then the relay sends it back and this happens multilple
times if I'm reading the logs right so I assume
that the aliases file for the Mailman lists isn't being recognized
properly by Postfix?


Yes, it sounds like a Postfix issue, but in order to say anything, we'd
need to see postconf -n and some relevant Postfix log messages.

# postconf -n
alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases
alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliaseshash:/etc/mailman/aliases
command_directory = /usr/sbin
config_directory = /etc/postfix
daemon_directory = /usr/libexec/postfix
debug_peer_level = 2
html_directory = no
inet_interfaces = all
local_recipient_maps =
mail_owner = postfix
mailbox_size_limit = 0
mailq_path = /usr/bin/mailq.postfix
manpage_directory = /usr/share/man
mydestination = $myhostname
localhost.$mydomainlocalhost
localhost.localdomainrequest1.localdomain
request2.localdomain
request1.rmtc.fedex.com
request2.rmtc.fedex.com
mailman.rmtc.fedex.commailman2.rmtc.fedex.com
mynetworks = 127.0.0.1/32146.18.0.0/16
155.161.0.0/16161.135.0.0/16
165.150.0.0/16170.5.0.0/16
170.86.0.0/16172.18.64.0/18
192.189.184.0/22198.140.0.0/22
199.81.0.0/16199.82.0.0/16
204.135.100.0/23204.135.106.0/23
204.135.108.0/23204.135.92.0/23
204.135.94.0/23204.135.96.0/23
204.135.97.0/23172.31.248.0/23
172.31.252.0/23

newaliases_path = /usr/bin/newaliases.postfix
owner_request_special = no
permit_mx_backup_networks = $mynetworks
queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix
readme_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.3.3/README_FILES
recipient_delimiter = +
relay_domains = cosd.fedex.comrmtc.fedex.com
relayhost = mapper.mail.fedex.com
sample_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.3.3/samples
sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix
setgid_group = postdrop
smtpd_authorized_verp_clients = localhost
smtpd_recipient_restrictions = check_recipient_access 
hash:/etc/postfix/accesspermit_mynetworks
reject_unauth_destination

transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport
unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 550




Here is some info (yes, I know it's ancient):

rpm -qa | grep -i mailman
mailman-2.1.9-4.el5

/etc/postfix/main.cf:
alias_maps =hash:/etc/aliases
 hash:/etc/mailman/aliases

and in /etc/mailman/aliases it has the list troytest with this:
# STANZA START: troytest
# CREATED: Sun Mar 14 19:20:17 2010
troytest: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post troytest
troytest-admin:   |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin troytest
troytest-bounces: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces troytest
troytest-confirm: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm troytest
troytest-join:|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join troytest
troytest-leave:   |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave troytest
troytest-owner:   |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner troytest
troytest-request: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request troytest
troytest-subscribe:   |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe troytest
troytest-unsubscribe: |/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe

troytest

# STANZA END: troytest

There is also a python process owned by mailman that is varying between
75-100% of the CPU.


Which one? (ps -fw)
mailman  21869 21862 92 16:16 ?02:24:52 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s




I realize that Postfix per se is out of the scope of this list but any
suggestions/tips are sincerely appreciated.
My current thinking is I need to run a postmap command to update the
aliases config perhaps?


The command is postalias, not postmap, and it's unlikely to help unless
perhaps you previously ran 'postmap /etc/mailman/aliases', but it
couldn't hurt to run 'postalias /etc/mailman/aliases'.

It seems to be recognizing the email as local now:

Jan 12 18:57:27 request1 sendmail[3015]: q0D1vRSU003015: 
to=troyt...@mailman.rmtc.fedex.com, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:00, 
xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30076, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], 
dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (Ok: queued as C7FE237878)
Jan 12 18:57:28 request1 postfix

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 80, Issue 2

2010-10-01 Thread Troy Campbell
Thanks again Mark.  I've decided to manage it with separate postfix
config files (one for when there is no service group on a server, one
for when there is just the Mailman service group, one for when there is
just the IMAP service group and one when there is both) and just restart
postfix and monitor it as part of VCS as it doesn't make sense to merge
config files for other reasons anyway.

Regards,
Troy


-Original Message-
Troy Campbell wrote:

For some reason when I moved the mailman configuration a few months ago

I had to add /etc/mailman/aliases to the alias_maps e.g.,:

alias_maps =hash:/etc/aliases

hash:/etc/mailman/aliases

 

whereas on the old installation I didn't.  Since this is on a server 
that can fail over to another server that has the IMAP configuration 
which

doesn't need /etc/mailman/aliases I would like to see if there is a 
workaround so that they both have the same postfix configuration.  
Sorry

if this is more of a postfix question but I didn't get an answer on 
their list yet.


Postfix doesn't do IMAP, nor do other MTAs, so I'm not sure if the IMAP
reference is relevant.

Is the Mailman package on the other server the same as the one on this
server which is clearly a downstream package if aliases are in
/etc/mailman.


Basically trying to get the /etc/postfix/main.cf files identical so I 
don't have to manage the differences and bounce postfix on failover.


If Mailman is installed the same way from the same package on both
servers, and there are no non-mailman differences in the Postfix
configuration, there should be no reason why they couldn't use the same
main.cf.

On the other hand if the two servers have different Mailman packages,
then their Postfix requirements could be different.

On the third hand, this could be simply that on the other server,
Mailman's aliases were copied to /etc/aliases so /etc/mailman/aliases
wasn't needed.

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[Mailman-Users] /etc/mailman/aliases.db

2010-09-30 Thread Troy Campbell
For some reason when I moved the mailman configuration a few months ago
I had to add /etc/mailman/aliases to the alias_maps e.g.,:

alias_maps =hash:/etc/aliases

hash:/etc/mailman/aliases

 

whereas on the old installation I didn't.  Since this is on a server
that can fail over to another server that has the IMAP configuration
which

doesn't need /etc/mailman/aliases I would like to see if there is a
workaround so that they both have the same postfix configuration.  Sorry

if this is more of a postfix question but I didn't get an answer on
their list yet. 

 

Basically trying to get the /etc/postfix/main.cf files identical so I
don't have to manage the differences and bounce postfix on failover.

 

Regards,

Troy

 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem sending emails out

2010-07-02 Thread Troy Campbell
Things magically started working after about an hour and a half so it
must have been something else this time.  Anyway, much appreciate your
timely reponse!

Regards,
Troy

-Original Message-
From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net] 
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 6:09 PM
To: Troy Campbell; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem sending emails out

Troy Campbell wrote:

The issue I'm having is that my mailman server is no
longer sending email out.  There was an issue with it
earlier in the day where VCS shut it down because of
the disk set monitor script was not completing.

I'm running:
mailman-2.1.9-4.el5

This was working up till today.  I did some googling and
there are qrunner processes running:
[r...@request1 mailman]# ps -ef | grep qrunner
mailman  13235 13231  0 16:26 ?00:00:01 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s
mailman  13236 13231  0 16:26 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=BounceRunner:0:1 -s
mailman  13237 13231  0 16:26 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=CommandRunner:0:1 -s
mailman  13238 13231  0 16:26 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s
mailman  13239 13231  0 16:26 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s
mailman  13240 13231  0 16:26 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s
mailman  13241 13231  0 16:26 ?00:00:01 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=VirginRunner:0:1 -s
mailman  13242 13231  0 16:26 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -s


Good.


check_perms says everything is ok


Good


crond is running


Irrelevant for non-digest mail delivery with Mailman 2.1.x


mailmanctl is running


Good.


I'm running postfix 2.3.3

Any help is much appreciated!


See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/A4E9.

What's in Mailman's queues (/var/spool/mailman/* in RHEL)?

What's in Mailman's logs, particularly smtp, smtp-failure and error?

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[Mailman-Users] Problem sending emails out

2010-07-01 Thread Troy Campbell

The issue I'm having is that my mailman server is no
longer sending email out.  There was an issue with it
earlier in the day where VCS shut it down because of
the disk set monitor script was not completing.

I'm running:
   mailman-2.1.9-4.el5

This was working up till today.  I did some googling and
there are qrunner processes running:
[r...@request1 mailman]# ps -ef | grep qrunner
mailman  13235 13231  0 16:26 ?00:00:01 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s
mailman  13236 13231  0 16:26 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=BounceRunner:0:1 -s
mailman  13237 13231  0 16:26 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=CommandRunner:0:1 -s
mailman  13238 13231  0 16:26 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s
mailman  13239 13231  0 16:26 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s
mailman  13240 13231  0 16:26 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s
mailman  13241 13231  0 16:26 ?00:00:01 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=VirginRunner:0:1 -s
mailman  13242 13231  0 16:26 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -s


check_perms says everything is ok

crond is running

mailmanctl is running

I'm running postfix 2.3.3

Any help is much appreciated!

Troy
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[Mailman-Users] migrated lists getting firefox error, and new name not original list name

2010-03-14 Thread Troy Campbell
Hello,

I just migrated some lists from a server called
mailman.rmtc.fedex.com to a new server called
mailman2.rmtc.fedex.com (both running
2.1.9) and configuring things to try to keep the
lists the original @mailman.rmtc.fedex.com name
and I'm running into two issues. 

First I've started getting the following error in firefox
on Mailman pages where I try to add a user or create
a list using the web pages:

Although this page is encrypted, the information you have entered is to be 
sent over an unencrypted connection and could easily be read by a third party.  
Are you sure you want to continue sending this information?

Then when I hit Continue nothing happens, it's
like I hit Cancel.  The workaround is to use the
command line to do the function (such as add a member).

I modified this in mm_cfg.py on mailman2 (after
migrating) to:

fqdn = 'mailman.rmtc.fedex.com'

so as to have everything stay
@mailman.rmtc.fedex.com in the name.

Also I'm rewriting http to https URLs however I was
doing that on the original server and not getting this
error.

After creating a newlist I see this:

# withlist -l troytest
Loading list troytest (locked)
The variable `m' is the troytest MailList instance
 m.getListAddress('admin')
'troytest-ad...@mailman.rmtc.fedex.com'
 m.getListAddress()
'troyt...@mailman.rmtc.fedex.com'

which seems to be what I want (not mailman2...).

I was going to try running the withlist...fix_url command
on all the lists I brought over but thought I should wait/see
as the issue seems to be related more to the fqdn
not taking effect?

Secondly when I send an email using a test list I also get
@mailman2.rmtc.fedex.com as the email address rather
than @mailman.rmtc.fedex.com?

Any help with either issue appreciated!

Troy
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Re: [Mailman-Users] migrated lists getting firefox error, and new name not original list name

2010-03-14 Thread Troy Campbell






Secondly when I send an email using a test list I also get
@mailman2.rmtc.fedex.com as the email address rather
than @mailman.rmtc.fedex.com?



Get it where? If you mean in things like the List-* headers and the
Sender:, fix_url will fix that too if DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST and
DEFAULT_URL_HOST are properly set or you can just change a list's
host_name on General Options.


Sorry I was unclear Mark.  When I email to the lists that I moved over
I'm getting this in the sender address: listn...@mailman2.rmtc.fedex.com
rather than listn...@mailman.rmtc.fedex.com.  I tried doing the
 withlist -l -r fix_url listname
but that didn't seem to have an effect?
I also tried
 withlist -l -a -r fix_url
which seemed to run pretty quick considering all the lists and the time
it took to do just one so I don't know if I ran it right?

Regards,
Troy


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Re: [Mailman-Users] buildup of attachment files...

2009-11-17 Thread Troy Campbell

Thanks Mark,

The list's Non-digest options - scrub-nondigest is No.

In the Content Filtering -Details for pass_mime_types field
I show the following:

multipart/mixed
multipart/alternative
text/plain

Would that be sufficient to do what you are suggesting if I
turn Edit filter_content on? 


Could I then remove the attachments subdirectories?

Regards,
Troy


on 11/16/2009 07:23 PM Mark Sapiro said the following:

Troy Campbell wrote:

  

On one mailing list I'm seeing alot of attachment files building up
in the archive directory:


[...]
  

Basically there are many directories in the attachments
directory that go from 20070808 to 20091116.

I'm running 2.1.9.  I just need to know how to cleanup and turnoff
if possible.




It is Scrubber.py that saves these. Depending on settings, you may get
one or two copies of each attachment which is either not text/plain or
text/plain with an unknown character set.

If the list's Non-digest options - scrub-nondigest is Yes, you will
get one saved attachment when the attachment is removed from the
message and replaced by a link to the saved attachment. Otherwise, you
get two. One when the attachment is scrubbed for the archive and one
when the attachment is scrubbed from the plain format digest.

You can avoid almost all of this by removing all non-plain text with
content filtering.

If you don't remove them with content filtering, you can avoid the
'digest copies' by setting Digest options - digestable to No. You can
avoid the 'archive copies' by turning off archiving for the list.

  

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[Mailman-Users] buildup of attachment files...

2009-11-16 Thread Troy Campbell

On one mailing list I'm seeing alot of attachment files building up
in the archive directory:

# pwd
/var/lib/mailman/archives/private
# ls listname*
listname:
attachments  index.html

listname.mbox:

Looking down a couple directory levels in attachements:
# pwd
/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/listname/attachments/20091116/4763b4e9
# file *
attachment.obj: gzip compressed data, was ErrorReport.21234.txt, from 
Unix, last modified: Mon Nov 16 11:03:59 2009

[r...@albers 4763b4e9]# ls
attachment.obj

Basically there are many directories in the attachments
directory that go from 20070808 to 20091116.

I'm running 2.1.9.  I just need to know how to cleanup and turnoff
if possible.

Thanks!
Troy




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[Mailman-Users] upgrading from 2.1.9 to 2.1.12

2009-10-20 Thread Troy Campbell

I'm considering upgrading from a current installation running
2.1.9 to a new server running 2.1.12.
Do I need to upgrade the 2.1.9 version on the existing server first?
I saw this note about 2.1.9 which I think I can safely ignore
but wondering if there are any other upgrade issues:
http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030623
My preference is to make a copy of everything on the new
server and try a cutover so I would have the old server to
fall back to in case there are any issues since it's a relatively
important mail server (production like qualities).

Secondly, how do I move the lists to the second server?  Is there
a way to export the lists and re-import to another server such
that all the password information is retained or do I have to move or
copy the var-prefix directory over and other parts?  I'm
looking for a tool that's a bit more robust than just list_members. 
I looked at this link but step 1 did not seem to apply to my

installation..my current configuration is alot more like step 3:
http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/How+do+I+move+a+list+to+a+different+server-Mailman+installation.

Appreciate your answering my preliminary and I'm sure basic questions 
while I do some googling to hopefully get some

better questions.

Regards,
Troy
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[Mailman-Users] mailmanctl status question...

2009-09-30 Thread Troy Campbell

Hello,

I'm starting an install of mailman but have not created the newlist
or started mailman but decided to test the status script and getting
the following:

[r...@request1 ~]# /etc/init.d/mailman status
Warning!  You may encounter permission problems.
[r...@request1 ~]# echo $?
0

My question is should the status below be non-zero?

Regards,
Troy
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[Mailman-Users] mmdsr question

2007-10-29 Thread Troy Campbell
I'm trying to figure out how to find out the location of my queue 
directory e.g.,
for the mmdsr script:

QUEUEDIR=/var/lib/mailman/qfiles

Thanks
Troy
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