Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not sending
Well, I *thought* I had it fixed, but not. It worked for the domain that actually matches the machine name, but not for the virtual domain I just tested. The list address is something like [EMAIL PROTECTED], and my mm-cfg.py is as follows: ## # Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line. DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/' DEFAULT_NNTP_HOST = 'amd64.csd-bes.net' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'amd64.csd-bes.net' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'amd64.csd-bes.net' MTA = 'Postfix' POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postalias' POSTFIX_MAP_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postmap' POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['amd64.csd-bes.net','mail.csd-bes.net','lists.csd-bes.net','sbypc.org','eagles81.org','ez-realty.net','maccounting.net','re-techtalk.com','hoopscout.com'] DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' SMTPHOST = 'localhost' add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) add_virtualhost('amd64.csd-bes.net', 'amd64.csd-bes.net') add_virtualhost('mail.csd-bes.net', 'amd64.csd-bes.net') add_virtualhost('lists.csd-bes.net', 'amd64.csd-bes.net') add_virtualhost('sbypc.org', 'amd64.csd-bes.net') add_virtualhost('eagles81.org', 'amd64.csd-bes.net') add_virtualhost('ez-realty.net', 'amd64.csd-bes.net') add_virtualhost('maccounting.net', 'amd64.csd-bes.net') add_virtualhost('re-techtalk.com', 'amd64.csd-bes.net') add_virtualhost('hoopscout.com', 'amd64.csd-bes.net') IMAGE_LOGOS = '/mailmanicons/' The error message is the same as below. Since the add virtualhost item above sets that to amd64.csd-bes.net, and amd64.csd-bes.net is the name of the machine in the dns settings, that should take care of it, right? But it doesn't. Rob Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks, this put me on the right track. My machine id did not match the settings in my config file after the server swap. Rob Quoting Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no maillog activity indicating delivery attempts, and in viewing the mailman smtp-failure log I see lots of messages like this: Jul 21 15:46:54 2005 (1361) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code -1: (-2, 'Name or service not known') See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq06.014.htp -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/bronto%40csd-bes.net Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/bronto%40csd-bes.net Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not sending - Solved(?)
Thanks for your corrections and tips. I made the changes, and it still didn't work. I read the thread you referenced, and verified that my permissions and users were correct. I then went back to look at my dns and machine settings, and found that my host name had reverted back to the machine name, not the full name I changed to it to previously that fixed the problem. So it wasn't that it was working for just one list and not others, it was that the fix that I previously made reverted before I tested other mailing lists. When I changed it back again, all the files in the retry queue flushed and I got a bunch of messages delivered on serveral lists. I'm running SuSE 9.2; maybe there's a process running somewhere that is doing this. I know there are processes that keep permissions and other settings in sync. If this reverts again, I think the logical solution would be to find where SuSE is deciding what hostname to use and change it, or to change mm-cfg to match the hostname that SuSE wants to use. Rob Quoting Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I *thought* I had it fixed, but not. It worked for the domain that actually matches the machine name, but not for the virtual domain I just tested. The list address is something like [EMAIL PROTECTED], and my mm-cfg.py is as follows: See comments below, although virtual hosts shouldn't have anything to do with this issue. ## # Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line. DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/' DEFAULT_NNTP_HOST = 'amd64.csd-bes.net' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'amd64.csd-bes.net' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'amd64.csd-bes.net' MTA = 'Postfix' POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postalias' POSTFIX_MAP_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postmap' POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['amd64.csd-bes.net','mail.csd-bes.net','lists.csd-bes.net','sbypc.org','eagles81.org','ez-realty.net','maccounting.net','re-techtalk.com','hoopscout.com'] DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' SMTPHOST = 'localhost' It is best to add VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() here to remove the entry from Defaults.py although this usually isn't strictly necessary. add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) add_virtualhost('amd64.csd-bes.net', 'amd64.csd-bes.net') The line above essentially duplicates the one above it and is redundant. add_virtualhost('mail.csd-bes.net', 'amd64.csd-bes.net') add_virtualhost('lists.csd-bes.net', 'amd64.csd-bes.net') add_virtualhost('sbypc.org', 'amd64.csd-bes.net') It seems from your reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED] that this should probably be add_virtualhost('sbypc.org', 'sbypc.org') and maybe similarly for all the others. add_virtualhost('eagles81.org', 'amd64.csd-bes.net') add_virtualhost('ez-realty.net', 'amd64.csd-bes.net') add_virtualhost('maccounting.net', 'amd64.csd-bes.net') add_virtualhost('re-techtalk.com', 'amd64.csd-bes.net') add_virtualhost('hoopscout.com', 'amd64.csd-bes.net') Also, the Mailman.Archiver.Archiver.GetBaseArchiveURL() method inverts the VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary to get the URL host name corresponding to a particular email host. This doesn't work well if there are entries with duplicate email host values. IMAGE_LOGOS = '/mailmanicons/' The error message is the same as below. Since the add virtualhost item above sets that to amd64.csd-bes.net, and amd64.csd-bes.net is the name of the machine in the dns settings, that should take care of it, right? But it doesn't. The VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary is not involved in this at all. See http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-May/044742.html for a Python script that does exactly what SMTPDirect does to send mail. Also see thread starting at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-June/045157.html -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/bronto%40csd-bes.net Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not sending - Solved(?)
Quoting John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 11:27 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your corrections and tips. I made the changes, and it still didn't work. I read the thread you referenced, and verified that my permissions and users were correct. I then went back to look at my dns and machine settings, and found that my host name had reverted back to the machine name, not the full name I changed to it to previously that fixed the problem. So it wasn't that it was working for just one list and not others, it was that the fix that I previously made reverted before I tested other mailing lists. When I changed it back again, all the files in the retry queue flushed and I got a bunch of messages delivered on serveral lists. I'm running SuSE 9.2; maybe there's a process running somewhere that is doing this. I know there are processes that keep permissions and other settings in sync. If this reverts again, I think the logical solution would be to find where SuSE is deciding what hostname to use and change it, or to change mm-cfg to match the hostname that SuSE wants to use. I can't speak for SuSE nor do I know how you changed your hostname, but I can tell you this, if you used the plain hostname command that change will not persist across reboots. See the hostname man page on your system for how to make a permanent change. Also, if your machine is being assigned a permanent IP address via a local DHCP server you will likely have to make that change in the DHCP configuration. Thanks, the server has not rebooted, and the IP address is fixed. Rob This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman not sending
I have a brand new server replacing my old hardware for all my existing domains. With mailman, I am using Postfix/MySQL and virtual domains. Today I went live, but mailman is not sending email. I had this working a couple of weeks ago in my setup environment, and I don't know what changed to prevent it working now. The web interface works, I can manage lists, and emails sent to a test list get saved to the archive. There is no maillog activity indicating delivery attempts, and in viewing the mailman smtp-failure log I see lots of messages like this: Jul 21 15:46:54 2005 (1361) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code -1: (-2, 'Name or service not known') It looks like all my test messages are in the retry deliver queue. Here are my settings from mm_cfg.py: DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/' DEFAULT_NNTP_HOST = 'amd64.csd-bes.net' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'amd64.csd-bes.net' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'amd64.csd-bes.net' MTA = 'Postfix' POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postalias' POSTFIX_MAP_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postmap' POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['amd64.csd-bes.net','mail.csd-bes.net'] DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' SMTPHOST = 'localhost' add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) add_virtualhost('amd64.csd-bes.net', 'amd64.csd-bes.net') add_virtualhost('mail.csd-bes.net', 'amd64.csd-bes.net') add_virtualhost('lists.csd-bes.net', 'amd64.csd-bes.net') IMAGE_LOGOS = '/mailmanicons/' it seems to me that localhost should be fine for SMTPHOST. Ideas? Rob This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not sending
I should add that this is a SuSE 9.2 installation with mailman 2.1.5 from rpm. Rob Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have a brand new server replacing my old hardware for all my existing domains. With mailman, I am using Postfix/MySQL and virtual domains. Today I went live, but mailman is not sending email. I had this working a couple of weeks ago in my setup environment, and I don't know what changed to prevent it working now. The web interface works, I can manage lists, and emails sent to a test list get saved to the archive. There is no maillog activity indicating delivery attempts, and in viewing the mailman smtp-failure log I see lots of messages like this: Jul 21 15:46:54 2005 (1361) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code -1: (-2, 'Name or service not known') It looks like all my test messages are in the retry deliver queue. Here are my settings from mm_cfg.py: DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/' DEFAULT_NNTP_HOST = 'amd64.csd-bes.net' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'amd64.csd-bes.net' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'amd64.csd-bes.net' MTA = 'Postfix' POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postalias' POSTFIX_MAP_CMD = '/usr/sbin/postmap' POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['amd64.csd-bes.net','mail.csd-bes.net'] DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' SMTPHOST = 'localhost' add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) add_virtualhost('amd64.csd-bes.net', 'amd64.csd-bes.net') add_virtualhost('mail.csd-bes.net', 'amd64.csd-bes.net') add_virtualhost('lists.csd-bes.net', 'amd64.csd-bes.net') IMAGE_LOGOS = '/mailmanicons/' it seems to me that localhost should be fine for SMTPHOST. Ideas? Rob This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/bronto%40csd-bes.net Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not sending
Thanks, this put me on the right track. My machine id did not match the settings in my config file after the server swap. Rob Quoting Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no maillog activity indicating delivery attempts, and in viewing the mailman smtp-failure log I see lots of messages like this: Jul 21 15:46:54 2005 (1361) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code -1: (-2, 'Name or service not known') See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq06.014.htp -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/bronto%40csd-bes.net Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Cron errors
This morning when I got in to work, my mail box was full of cron error notifications that resulted from Mailman cron jobs. What do they mean? Traceback (most recent call last): Logging error: StampedLogger to '/usr/local/mailman/logs/error' Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py, line 91, in write f.write(msg) File /var/tmp/python2-2.1.1-root/usr/lib/python2.1/codecs.py, line 340, in write return self.writer.write(data) File /var/tmp/python2-2.1.1-root/usr/lib/python2.1/codecs.py, line 138, in write self.stream.write(data) IOError: [Errno 28] No space left on device Original log message: [Errno 28] No space left on device File /usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 274, in ? main() File /usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 249, in main lock.lock(timeout=0.5) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py, line 243, in lock self.__write() File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py, line 424, in __write fp.close() IOError: [Errno 28] No space left on device ___ No space left on device seems plain enough, but I've checked my drive space and there's tons of space left - more than 200mb. TIA Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Cron errors
I did check all of my partitions, and the partition for /var/ has about 20gb of space. What further investigation DID reveal is that the partition that handles everything else really did run out of space, as a result of an out of control backup temp file. First thing I did when I got in this morning was OK an error message on the server (no mention of lack of space), then check my email. By the time I saw the email notifications, the temp file was gone and there was plenty of space. Bottom line, problem solved. Rob Quoting Andrew Tait [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:27:02 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This morning when I got in to work, my mail box was full of cron error notifications that resulted from Mailman cron jobs. What do they mean? Traceback (most recent call last): IOError: [Errno 28] No space left on device ___ No space left on device seems plain enough, but I've checked my drive space and there's tons of space left - more than 200mb. Have you run: df -h to ensure there is enough room in all partitions, eg if /var/ is on a separate partition? Andrew -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Pay per list?
J C; Thanks for the detailed answer. Read on: Please see the FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Read it well and carefully. Follow ALL the instructions. Loosely: Will do. Thanks. Buy some RAM. Stuff your box full of it. Get up to the couple Gig+ range if you can (I don't know Macs well to know how easy that is). Don't even attempt this without at least 512Meg (1Gig will be much better). It's already maxed out at 768 mb. But another off list suggestion was that I would want to get a dedicated box for this anyway, since no matter how fast I got it to go, it would still take a while and would block other activities in the meantime. Get a new disk for /var/spool/postfix and another separate disk for /var/log. If you have the opportunity, make the spool disk faster. At this point don't worry about IDE vs SCSI. Very interesting suggestion, and disks are sooo cheap now. If you can smarthost all outbound traffic to a different system from your Mailman system. Set it up similarly as above/below (distinct spindle for spool and log, postfix config etc). This simple step would make handling this sort of load almost easy. If you can't do this, check with your ISP and see if they'd be willing to smarthost for you. Many will. smarthost is a new term for me. I'll look it up. Go straight to Mailman v2.1. Don't bother with 2.0. Already there. As a comparable under Postfix on a dual PII-333 with 512Meg RAM sitting on a couple T3s and a T1 I can sustain 1,400 deliveries a minute. You should be comfortably able to sustain at least half that given that you've a slightly less muscled box and your outbound bandwidth situation is likely skinnier. As this is not delivering time sensitive information, these expectations are encouraging. Given a reasonable distribution of slow MX'es (which is a silly meaningless unrelative thing to say, but hey) that would mean that you'd drain the majority of the queue down to the slow MXes in about an hour (accounting for IO and spool contention). If you want to use your system for anything else during that time (expect system loads in the 20 - 30 range for the majority of that time) you can reduce the number of queue runners or throw in some bandwidth profiling, but note that that will extend drain time non-linearly. That's a good hint. If this goes through, I might use this as a dedicated list server and try to recruit other list clients and give them specific time slots for sending messages to keep them spaced apart. Or maybe it will be a dedicated mail server, but require them to send the messages late at night. Be prepared for a fairly extensive period of fiddling getting this really happy. You're not up in the range where things get really sensitive, but you're getting there. Some care and discretion will be required. Thanks again for your excellent suggestions. Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Pay per list?
I just got an interesting telephone call from the brother of a client of mine; he works for a large company, a name most of you would recognize, and is dissatisfied with the blast emailing services being provided to them by their current host. He's asking for a quote from me, and I've got no idea where to start. I usually do hosting for small businesses, and some of them want discussion lists, and I use them myself. That's what I have mailman for. It working so well is probably what got me this referral. He says they send out one or two messages per week, to a list of between 10-15,000 subscribers. My mail server is a beige G3 Mac running YellowDog Linux, with Postfix and mailman. What say you? TIA Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] cron errors, no archiving, v2.1b3
I posted a question regarding error messages last week while I was still running 2.1b2. I have just upgraded to v2.1b3 after being chastised for being tardy with updating. :') Now back to the questions - I have more info. Here's what I posted last week (the 23rd): I'm running Mailamn v2.1b2, and just got these errors sent to my email: _ Subject: Cron mailman@g3 /usr/bin/python2 -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 44, in ? from Mailman import MailList ValueError: bad marshal data Subject: Cron mailman@g3 /usr/bin/python2 -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 44, in ? from Mailman import MailList File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 65, in ? from Mailman.OldStyleMemberships import OldStyleMemberships ValueError: bad marshal data __ They came five minutes apart. The reference to gate suggests to me that it might have something to do with newsgroup syncing, but I'm not doing any of that. Since posting that last week, I have discovered that one of my mailing lists has stopped functioning to some degree. I had set up this particular list to be a simple personal archive of messages from another mailing list I subscribe to. It doesn't send anything, so I hadn't noticed any problems. While doing my mailman update, I discovered that no messages have been archived since the 23rd when I got the above errors. Snooping around the mailman directories, I see a ton of files (several hundred) in the qfiles/shunt directory, dated since 9/23. There are also a few dozen from 7/2, FWIW. I'm betting this isn't a coincidence, but know nothing more than that. What now? TIA Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Can I use Webmin to create/manage .htaccess files?
I need to be able to rapidly create and edit .htaccess files for my customers. I've only set one up once, months ago, and it works well for the directory it was intended for but I need to start doing this a lot. Can I use webmin for this? If so, is there a step-by-step somewhere? Thanks -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I use Webmin to create/manage .htaccessfiles?
Sorry everybody. I'm an idiot :') I meant to send this message to the webmin mailing list. Rob I need to be able to rapidly create and edit .htaccess files for my customers. I've only set one up once, months ago, and it works well for the directory it was intended for but I need to start doing this a lot. Can I use webmin for this? If so, is there a step-by-step somewhere? Thanks -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] managing mailman lists through webmin version0.990
I think that Dene is referring to the mailman module that is/was available for webmin. Dene; unless you have urgent need, don't spend too much time on this. I never got the mailman module for webmin to work. I think is was for a 1.x version of mailman and that's quite old now. Plus, v2.1 of mailman is coming along nicely in beta testing and it has a fully featured web based mailing list creation interface, negating the need to have one in webmin. Rob Dene Ulmschneider wrote: Does anyone here know how to redirect Webmin to look in a different location for the mailman files? When I try to access the Mailman Manager through webmin - I get the following error: Cannot find Mailman files! Do you have Mailman installed? But I know I have mailman installed and working - it already has a few lists that are running correctly. Any help would be greatly appreciated. This is really a question for the webmin mailing list. I would assume there are configuration files for webmin where you can alter the default paths, however not using webmin myself, I can't verify that theory. -- H | Life is the art of drawing without an eraser. - John Gardner + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Mailman/Cron error
I installed mailman v2.1b2 on my server last month. Everything seems to be working fine. This morning I got an email: --- Subject: Cron mailman@g3 /usr/bin/python2 -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/mailpasswds Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 05:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Site list is missing: mailman --- This obviously has to do with the automatic mailing of passwords such at the beginning of every month, but what do I do about it? I didn't get any password notifications this morning like I would have expected. I haven't asked any subscribers but I imagine not. Thanks -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman + HTDig Intergration
Use the versions of these patches for MM 2.0.11 ... Is there a solution for v2.1b2 yet? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1b2: wrong admin archives URL
I am using mailman 2.1b2; this is on a relatively new machine, and I created new instances of my existing lists on it before transfering all of my existing domains to the new server. Therefore, I created the lists via the 'wrong' domain, and now accessing the admin functions and archives forwards me to that domain. So if I go to http://www.rightdomain.com/mailman/listinfo/somelist and click on the admin link it goes to http://www.wrongdomain.com/mailman/admin/somelist. Apparently this info is hard-coded somewhere, but I can't find it. Can someone in-the-know give me a hint? Thanks Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1b2: wrong admin archives URL
I may be blind, but I don't see an option for Base URL for each list. Where is it? Rob bronto wrote: In any case, there still remains a problem with archives; every one of my lists points to a URL for archives at wrongdomain.com. Each list properly points to the correct domain in the Host name this list prefers for email. field, if that makes a difference. I think this must be a bug, or a programming oversight. Did you also check that the Base URL is correct for each list? -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Need an installer -- will pay.
I concur; webmin is extraordinarily helpful in learning linux. In the linux learning curve, you inevitably get something wrong but for a newbie it's difficult to know whether the problem at hand is one of not understanding the concept correctly or if you've simply gotten the syntax wrong with the last thing you've done. Webmin with it's GUI interface helps eliminate the problem of syntax errors and typos. However the Mailman plugin for Webmin is for version 1.x; at least I never got it to work with Mailman 2.0x. I suspect that whoever wrote it won't undate it, since it was only for creating and deleting mailing lists, and Mailman 2.1 has it's own interface for that. At 02:51 AM 7/8/02 +0200, Danny Terweij wrote: From: Marc Ash [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am not proficent with command line server interaction. First learn some basic linux knowledge before installing mailman. Many things would be ended up in console interaction, even after a complete installed mailman setup. Go to www.webmin.com for a GUI installation of many linux services within an webinterface. I did see there also a 3rd party module for Mailman. Danny Terweij --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.373 / Virus Database: 208 - Release Date: 2-7-02 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Wrong domain in 2.1b2
I have mailman 2.1 beta 2 up and running on my web server. Most everything is working well, AFAIK. One strange thing though; I have several virtual domains setup, each with some of their own lists. When I want to view the archives, the domain used in the url to access the archives are all the 'main' domain of the server, not the domain the list belongs to. All of the other urls for a particular list stick to the correct domain. Only the archives poin to the main one. Is there a way to fix this? TIA Rob -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py