[Mailman-Users] New lists not being displayed on the listinfo page
Howdie, I have just created two new lists and they are not appearing in the listinfo or admin page views. Is there something I am missing? --- Gareth Hopkins Server Operations UUNET South Africa (o) +27.21.658.8700 (f) +27.21.658.8552 (m) +27.82.929.6668 http://www.uunet.co.za 08600 UUNET (08600 88638) The contents of this e-mail and any accompanying documentation is confidential and any use thereof, in whatever form, by anyone other than the addressee for whom it is intended, is strictly prohibited. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Problem with Archiver
Howdie, I am sure that there is a setting somewhere regarding this but I cannot seem to find it. It looks like the qrunner archiver process waits 1 minute between archiving messages. During this time all the CPU time is used. A truss on the process shows the following break(0xa86d000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa7f9000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa871000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa7fb000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa875000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa7fd000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa879000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa7ff000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa87d000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa801000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa881000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa803000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa885000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa805000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa889000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa807000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa88d000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa809000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa891000) = 0 (0x0) I am running FreeBSD 4.7-Stable. The process in question is qrunner /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s (python2.2) Is there a way of making the archiver archive all mail without the 60 second wait time? --- Gareth Hopkins Server Operations UUNET South Africa (o) +27.21.658.8700 (f) +27.21.658.8552 (m) +27.82.929.6668 http://www.uunet.co.za 08600 UUNET (08600 88638) The contents of this e-mail and any accompanying documentation is confidential and any use thereof, in whatever form, by anyone other than the addressee for whom it is intended, is strictly prohibited. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] What is python doing?
On 3 Feb 2003, Jon Carnes wrote: JCSome guesses (since no information was provided): JC Mailman 2.0.x JC IDE disk subsystem JC Archiving turned on for list JC JCIf that is the case, then Mailman is doing a lot of writing to the disk. Howdie, I have switched off archiving and the python process is still using over 98% CPU time. A truss on the process shows the following break(0xa7e3000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xac48000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa7e5000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xac4c000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa7e7000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xac5) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa7e9000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xac54000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa7eb000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xac58000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa7ed000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xac5c000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa7ef000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xac6) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa7f1000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xac64000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa7f3000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xac68000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa7f5000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xac6c000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa7f7000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xac7) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa7f9000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xac74000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa7fb000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xac78000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa7fd000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xac7c000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa7ff000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xac8) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa801000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xac84000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa803000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xac88000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xa805000) = 0 (0x0) break(0xac8c000) = 0 (0x0) Any ideas? --- Gareth Hopkins Server Operations UUNET South Africa (o) +27.21.658.8700 (f) +27.21.658.8552 (m) +27.82.929.6668 http://www.uunet.co.za 08600 UUNET (08600 88638) The contents of this e-mail and any accompanying documentation is confidential and any use thereof, in whatever form, by anyone other than the addressee for whom it is intended, is strictly prohibited. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] What is python doing?
On 6 Feb 2003, Jon Carnes wrote: JCI have no idea what a truss is (besides something you wear when you have JCa hernia). JC JCWhat kind of a system are running on (cpu, ram, amount of virtual memory JCcurrently in use)? How many messages/minute are you seeing pass through JCyour system? JC JCCould it be that you are using a great deal of virtual memory (or even a JClittle on an IDE box)? Howdie, I am running a 4.7-STABLE Freebsd Machine. The truss command is used to trace system calls. Cpu in a PIII 500. we have 256 megs of ram and 512 Megs of swap. Disks are not busy at all. With the archive off it seems to be okay but as soon as archiving is switched on the messages start to queue up in ~/mailman/qfiles/archives and ~/mailman/qfiles/in. On one of the lists it could be up to 30 messages per minute. --- Gareth Hopkins Server Operations UUNET South Africa (o) +27.21.658.8700 (f) +27.21.658.8552 (m) +27.82.929.6668 http://www.uunet.co.za 08600 UUNET (08600 88638) The contents of this e-mail and any accompanying documentation is confidential and any use thereof, in whatever form, by anyone other than the addressee for whom it is intended, is strictly prohibited. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] What is python doing?
Howdie, What is the python process doing here? Just got 5 messages in the space of about 10 seconds to the same list on the machine. The list has about 15 recipients all in the same domain. A top shows last pid: 24442; load averages: 0.99, 0.87, 0.73 up 9+22:18:18 15:19:30 91 processes: 2 running, 89 sleeping CPU states: 97.7% user, 0.0% nice, 2.3% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% idle Mem: 100M Active, 85M Inact, 43M Wired, 10M Cache, 35M Buf, 11M Free Swap: 512M Total, 96K Used, 512M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZERES STATETIME WCPUCPU COMMAND 24306 mailman 61 0 30280K 29444K RUN 9:00 97.61% 97.61% python2.2 24442 root 29 0 2024K 1076K RUN 0:00 15.00% 0.73% top --- Gareth Hopkins Server Operations UUNET South Africa (o) +27.21.658.8700 (f) +27.21.658.8552 (m) +27.82.929.6668 http://www.uunet.co.za 08600 UUNET (08600 88638) The contents of this e-mail and any accompanying documentation is confidential and any use thereof, in whatever form, by anyone other than the addressee for whom it is intended, is strictly prohibited. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] What is python doing?
On 3 Feb 2003, Jon Carnes wrote: JCSome guesses (since no information was provided): JC Mailman 2.0.x JC IDE disk subsystem JC Archiving turned on for list JC JCIf that is the case, then Mailman is doing a lot of writing to the disk. Howdie, Ah yes, a little info that may have helped. Mailman is version 2.1 I am running an IDE Mirror. The disks seem pretty quick doing around 30 Meg a second. [root] /archives # dd if=/dev/zero of=foo bs=1024k count=100 100+0 records in 100+0 records out 104857600 bytes transferred in 3.218110 secs (32583596 bytes/sec) and archiving is turned on on all the lists. --- Gareth Hopkins Server Operations UUNET South Africa (o) +27.21.658.8700 (f) +27.21.658.8552 (m) +27.82.929.6668 http://www.uunet.co.za 08600 UUNET (08600 88638) The contents of this e-mail and any accompanying documentation is confidential and any use thereof, in whatever form, by anyone other than the addressee for whom it is intended, is strictly prohibited. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting mailman to use the same smtp connectionfor messages sent to the same domain
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Simon White wrote: SW31-Jan-03 at 14:39, Gareth Hopkins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : SWIs there a way to get mailman to deliver messages to the same SW domain in one smtp connection. SW SWExample SW SW[EMAIL PROTECTED] SW[EMAIL PROTECTED] SW[EMAIL PROTECTED] will all be delivered in the same smtp connection. SW SWAt the moment it is connecting, delivering to [EMAIL PROTECTED], then SW disconnecting. Then connects, delivers to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and disconnects and SW so on and so on. SW SWUse an MTA that supports connection pooling or whatever it is called, SWinstead of mailman? howdie, I am using postfix but it looks like when the messages are sent mailman sends out list-bounces email to each address. This causes a single connection to be made to the same host. --- Gareth Hopkins Server Operations UUNET South Africa (o) +27.21.658.8700 (f) +27.21.658.8552 (m) +27.82.929.6668 http://www.uunet.co.za 08600 UUNET (08600 88638) The contents of this e-mail and any accompanying documentation is confidential and any use thereof, in whatever form, by anyone other than the addressee for whom it is intended, is strictly prohibited. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting mailman to use the same smtp connectionfor messages sent to the same domain
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: BAW BAW SW == Simon White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BAW BAWSW Chunking like this means that you're actually sending RCPT TO: BAWSW based on TLD, and then only US TLDs, right? So SMTP_MAX_RCPTS BAWSW set to 50 could mean several different second level domains in BAWSW the same chunk, but for every TLD outside the US there will be BAWSW separate sessions for each mail sent? BAW BAWNot exactly. All the other tlds get dropped in the same bucket and BAWthe chunks are filled from the buckets. There are at most 4 buckets: BAW BAW0 == everything else BAW1 == .com BAW2 == .org .net BAW3 == .edu .us .ca Howdie, Is there any way one can change these settings? Most of mine are .co.za's which is right down there :) --- Gareth Hopkins Server Operations UUNET South Africa (o) +27.21.658.8700 (f) +27.21.658.8552 (m) +27.82.929.6668 http://www.uunet.co.za 08600 UUNET (08600 88638) The contents of this e-mail and any accompanying documentation is confidential and any use thereof, in whatever form, by anyone other than the addressee for whom it is intended, is strictly prohibited. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Getting mailman to use the same smtp connection for messages sentto the same domain
Howdie, Is there a way to get mailman to deliver messages to the same domain in one smtp connection. Example [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] will all be delivered in the same smtp connection. At the moment it is connecting, delivering to [EMAIL PROTECTED], then disconnecting. Then connects, delivers to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and disconnects and so on and so on. Thanks --- Gareth Hopkins Server Operations UUNET South Africa (o) +27.21.658.8700 (f) +27.21.658.8552 (m) +27.82.929.6668 http://www.uunet.co.za 08600 UUNET (08600 88638) The contents of this e-mail and any accompanying documentation is confidential and any use thereof, in whatever form, by anyone other than the addressee for whom it is intended, is strictly prohibited. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Full headers in archive
Howdie, Is there anyway to get the full headers of messages added when messages are archived? At the moment only the senders address is shown. This is using mailman 2.1 Thanks --- Gareth Hopkins Server Operations UUNET South Africa (o) +27.21.658.8700 (f) +27.21.658.8552 (m) +27.82.929.6668 http://www.uunet.co.za 08600 UUNET (08600 88638) The contents of this e-mail and any accompanying documentation is confidential and any use thereof, in whatever form, by anyone other than the addressee for whom it is intended, is strictly prohibited. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto-Aliases in v2.1 -was- X-Loop
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Jon Carnes wrote: JCVersion 2.1 automatically creates the aliases in ~mailman/data/aliases so JCyou can include that in your MTA's alias checks and from that point on the JCaliases are created automagically. Read the INSTALL file. What could be JCbetter than that? Ah excellent, thanks --- Gareth Hopkins Server Operations UUNET South Africa (o) +27.21.658.8700 (f) +27.21.658.8552 (m) +27.82.929.6668 http://www.uunet.co.za 08600 UUNET (08600 88638) The contents of this e-mail and any accompanying documentation is confidential and any use thereof, in whatever form, by anyone other than the addressee for whom it is intended, is strictly prohibited. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] X-Loop
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Chuq Von Rospach wrote: CVR CVROn Thursday, January 23, 2003, at 10:01 PM, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: CVR CVR Huh? What's an X-loop header? Mailman doesn't use or add this CVR header. CVR CVR CVRIt's a procmail convention, so that procmail recipes can tell they've CVRalready seen a message and break a potential mail loop. So is there anywhere I can add this then in mailman or change the X-Beenthere settings? --- Gareth Hopkins Server Operations UUNET South Africa (o) +27.21.658.8700 (f) +27.21.658.8552 (m) +27.82.929.6668 http://www.uunet.co.za 08600 UUNET (08600 88638) The contents of this e-mail and any accompanying documentation is confidential and any use thereof, in whatever form, by anyone other than the addressee for whom it is intended, is strictly prohibited. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] X-Loop
On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: BAW BAW GH == Gareth Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BAW BAWGH So is there anywhere I can add this then in mailman or change BAWGH the X-Beenthere settings? BAW BAWI'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish, but sure you can add it BAWto Mailman. Pick a module in Mailman/Handlers, or make up your own BAWthat just adds the header with whatever value you think will help you BAWaccomplish your goal wink. Howdie, Thanks for the info :) Was wondering something about the newlist command. In version 2.1 you cannot use the -o aliases option. Is there another way to automatically add the entries of a new list to the aliases file? --- Gareth Hopkins Server Operations UUNET South Africa (o) +27.21.658.8700 (f) +27.21.658.8552 (m) +27.82.929.6668 http://www.uunet.co.za 08600 UUNET (08600 88638) The contents of this e-mail and any accompanying documentation is confidential and any use thereof, in whatever form, by anyone other than the addressee for whom it is intended, is strictly prohibited. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] X-Loop
Howdie, I have just upgraded to version 2.1. Apparently in this version I can add an X-loop header. Where abouts do I do this? Thanks for your time --- Gareth -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org