Re: [Mailman-Users] Python version?

2003-03-28 Thread irwin
On Friday 28 March 2003 05:36 pm, you wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 18:01:19 -0500
>
> Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Mailman 2.0 will be happy with Python 1.5.2.  Mailman 2.1 requires
> > Python 2.
>
> Is there a good way to install Python2 without deinstalling Python1.5.

They don't conflict.   Just download the tarball from python.org and install.

> Then configuring mailman 2.1 to use Python2.
> We are on Red Hat 7.1.
> I suppose we could build mailman from source, put python2 into
> /usr/local.

Once you have Python2 installed, configuring mailman2.1 is relatively 
straight forward.

Irwin

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Python version?

2003-03-28 Thread irwin
On Friday 28 March 2003 02:50 pm, you wrote:
> I run a RedHat 7.3 system, it has mailman 2.0.13, python 1.5 and python 2.2
> installed.
>
> If you run python you run V1.5.2
> If you run python2 you run V2.2.2
>
> I have noticed in the mailman scripts that it calls python (not python2).
>
> I thought you needed python V2.2 to run mailman ?
>
> AFAIK there are no sym links to python2, but I may be wrong.
>
> What gives? Just curious.
>
> Thanks
> Darryl
>

Mailman 2.n requires python2.n
Mailman 1.n uses python.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Sendmail port 25

2003-03-28 Thread irwin
On Friday 28 March 2003 11:32 am, Sullivan, John wrote:
> No I found the problem: Sendmail is shipped to only listen on the local
> host. I need to change that. Here's an FAQ on it below. Most of you using
> sendmail as your MTA had to configure this at some point - Can anyone give
> me directions -

I simply changed as follows:

# O DaemonPortOptions=Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA
O DaemonPortOptions=Port=smtp

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Re: [Mailman-Users] web admin help

2003-03-28 Thread irwin
On Friday 28 March 2003 08:36 am, you wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have set up a mailman server on redhat 7.3.
> It sends messages, it signs people up, the web interface all works,
> pipermail works... but when I go to the administrative interface I try
> to log in with either the list admin password or the global admin
> password I always get "Authentication Failed" message in red letters on
> the web page.
>
> I followed the instructions for the RHL install of Mailman, it was
> already installed by my host, and can't find anything that I skipped.  I
> look in the log files but don't see the right message.
>
> Can anyone help me with this?  Any suggestions on where to look to find
> out what is going on would be a great help.
>
> thanks!

Are you accepting cookies?   or

If you have root access, you might try resetting the password.  

.../bin/change_pwfor the list
.../bin/mmsitepass   for the site

Irwin

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Securing

2003-03-26 Thread irwin
On Tuesday 25 March 2003 03:50 am, Sharksforum wrote:
> How do we secure mailman so that only a certain IP can post to the list?

Depending upon which version you are using, look for Sender filter options.

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[Mailman-Users] A funny thing happened... (bug?)

2003-03-12 Thread irwin
On the overview pages, listinfo and admin, the email address was appearing as 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED]   In both the 
Defaults.py and mm_cfg.py files, the DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST  was correct as 
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST='domain.com'

By removing the DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST='domain.com' from the mm_cfg.py file the 
problem was corrected.

Is there a known bug that DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST= in the mm_cfg.py file is not 
being picked up correctly?

Irwin


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Web interface

2003-03-10 Thread irwin
On Monday 10 March 2003 01:32 pm, you wrote:
> I upgraded from mailman 2.0.13 to 2.1.1 and the lists are working.  
> However, the web server allows access and accepts the admin password for
> the lists but will not accept any of the form data.The Apache server is
> a secure server and worked fine under 2.0.13.
>
> Did I miss something in the upgrade?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Irwin

Answering my own question.   The problem is that 2.1.1 web access only works 
with an insecure server.   By changing my virtual hosts in httpd.conf, I got 
it to work.Does anyone have abetter solution?

Thanks.  Irwin

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[Mailman-Users] Web interface

2003-03-10 Thread irwin
I upgraded from mailman 2.0.13 to 2.1.1 and the lists are working.   However, 
the web server allows access and accepts the admin password for the lists but 
will not accept any of the form data.The Apache server is a secure server 
and worked fine under 2.0.13.

Did I miss something in the upgrade?

Thanks.

Irwin

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[Mailman-Users] aliases and smrsh

2003-03-09 Thread irwin
I have just upgraded from 2.0.13 to 2.1.1 on RH 7.2, sendmail

The mail is getting delivered okay, but I need to update the /etc/aliases 
file and smrsh with all the new addresses.  I did one list, but with 27 more 
to go it would be a monster pain in the butt.  Is there is script available 
or does anyone have an easy way to do this?

Thanks.

Irwin

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Sending mail to lists gets stuck

2002-09-26 Thread irwin

On Thursday 26 September 2002 07:55 am, Reuven M. Lerner wrote:

> Sep 26 16:34:07 mail sendmail[32214]: g8QDY7j32213:
> to="|/var/mailman/mail/wrapper post reuventest",
> ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (8/0), delay=00:00:00,
> xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30047, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
>
> Following this, I get nothing at all.  In other words, the e-mail
> reached Mailman, but Mailman didn't pass the message along to members
> of the list.  Nothing appears in the archives either.
>
> I followed the directions included in the RPM for configuring for Red
> Hat Linux.  I also used check_perms, and discovered that the
> permissions used by the RPM aren't acceptable to Mailman, since they
> use gid 0 rather than the "mailman" user's gid.  I used "check_perms
> -f" to fix this, and now check_perms indicates that everything is OK.
>

Did you set up the mailman cron file?   Check to see if the messages are 
sitting in  .../mailman/qfiles

Irwin

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman List admin password not working anymore?

2002-09-26 Thread irwin

On Thursday 26 September 2002 06:53 am, Chris Joelly wrote:
> Hello again!
>
> i habe also tried to login with the site password, and after i could not
> login with that "global" password i reset and changed the password with
> mmsitepass, but its all the same. mailman doesn't accept any password...
>
> can anybody tell me whats f** wrong?
>
> thanks, Chris

I think that happens when you are not accepting cookies.

Irwin

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with mailman 2.0.13

2002-09-17 Thread irwin

On Tuesday 17 September 2002 08:27 am, Ísak Ben wrote:
> Hi there.
>
> Im running RedHat Linux 7.2 with Sendmail 8.12.5 compiled from source and i
> just compiled mailman 2.0.13 from source
>
> This is my error:

Looks like you don't have the aliases set up correctly.   Here is what works 
for me with almost the exact same setup.

/etc/aliases
...
testlisti:  |testlisti  
testlisti-admin:|testlisti-admin
testlisti-request:  |testlisti-request
testlisti-owner:testlisti-admin
...

then create a three files in /etc/smrsh:
permissions:   755

file:  /etc/smrsh/testlisti
content:   /var/mailman/mail/wrapper post testlisti 

file:  /etc/smrsh/testlisti-admin
content:   /var/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner testlisti   

file:  /etc/smrsh/testlisti-request
content:   /var/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd testlisti   

and don't forget to run 'newaliases'

Irwin


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Is one-way possible?

2002-09-05 Thread irwin

On Thursday 05 September 2002 09:49 am, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> * G. Armour Van Horn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20020905 19:45]: wrote:
> > There is no way to automatically discard the messages that come to the
> > list
>
> I may be wrong but if you search the archives of this list for "clear
> requests", someone did contribute a script that can be run via cron to
> discard the messages.

Works for me.

Irwin

Here is the cron line:

45 16 * * * /usr/bin/python2.1 -S /var/mailman/cron/clear-requests listname

Here is the script:

#! /usr/bin/env python

# We can use this and run it differently from the others - !/usr/bin/python

# I configured a list to accept messages from subscribers only
# so that unsubscribers' messages can be approved by admin manually.
# But these days some spammers started to send too many messages
# so deleting those messages takes quite time.
#
# Is there any way to configure mailman delete every messages
# from unsubscribers automatically and do not even notify it
# to the list admin?

# I use this script to do just that. Name it (clear_request) and put it in
# mailman cronjob.

# The default cron job for mailman most likely mails admins at 5pm about
# pending requests so you should run this script at 4:50pm or something.


# Written by Donal Hunt
# April 23rd 2001
#
# argv[1] should be the name of the list.

"""Clear pending administrative requests for a list

Usage:
clear_requests listname

Where:

listname
The name of the Mailman list you want to clear
pending requests from.  It must already exist.

"""

import sys
import os
import string
import getopt
import paths
from Mailman import mm_cfg
from Mailman import Utils
from Mailman import MailList
from Mailman import Errors
from Mailman import Message
from Mailman.Logging.Syslog import syslog


def usage(status, msg=''):
if msg:
print msg
print __doc__ % globals()
sys.exit(status)


def main():
try:
ml = MailList.MailList(sys.argv[1])
except Errors.MMListError, e:
usage(1, 'No such list: %s (%s)' % (listname, e))
try:
print 'No of Requests Pending: %s ' % ml.NumRequestsPending()
print 'No of postings awaiting approval: %s ' % ml.GetHeldMessageIds()
print 'No of subsciptions awaiting approval: %s ' % 
ml.GetSubscriptionIds()
for i in ml.GetHeldMessageIds():
ml.HandleRequest(i, 3)
for i in ml.GetSubscriptionIds():
ml.HandleRequest(i, 2, 'No subscription allowed - please mail %s' 
% ml.owner[0] )

print 'No of Requests Pending: %s ' % ml.NumRequestsPending()
ml.Save()
finally:
ml.Unlock()

main()

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Re: [Mailman-Users] NAT translation problems?

2002-08-21 Thread irwin

On Thursday 22 August 2002 11:10 am, Drew Krause wrote:
> Hello, a few subscribers with city and county government email addresses
> are complaining that our list mail is not getting to them. A peek at our
> mail logs confirms this. One of their system administrators noted that
> their server makes use of 'NAT translation', a concept new to me.
>
> Has anyone else had this problem? (Is it indeed a mailman issue?) Are
> there any settings or workarounds to solve this?
>
> Any help appreciated!

Don't flame me for this perhaps over simplification.  NAT, Network Address 
Translation, is a technique whereby a single IP is distributed for use of 
multiple nodes on a network.   Commonly used on networks for putting nodes 
behind a firewall (IP Masquerading).

I don't know why they should have problems receiving email, I use NAT 
and don't have any problems.   Perhaps their addresses need a node name as 
part of the address.  In other words,  "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".

Irwin

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Re: [Mailman-Users] (no subject)

2002-08-13 Thread irwin

On Tuesday 13 August 2002 08:47 am, Mark Paterson wrote:
> I'm a newbi to mailman and have run into a problem when I try to send mail
> to my test list. I have run through the setup line by line but I get the
> following error listed below. This mail just sits in the mail queue. Has
> anyone run into this problem before or know what I might me doing wrong?
> I'm running RH7.2
>
> Thanks in advance,
> -Mark

Check two items.   First, the cron file and secondly, RH7.2 uses a smrsh 
directory so instead of:

nsadmin:"|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post nsadmin"

in your /etc/aliases file, you need 

nsadmin:|nsadmin

in your aliases file, and in a file in the /etc/smrsh directory named 
"nsadmin" (without the quotes) with permissions 755

|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post nsadmin

Irwin


> Forcing the attempted delivery of mail with the command /usr/lib/sendmail
> -v -q ..
>
>
> Running /var/spool/mqueue/g7DFXPd14087 (sequence 1 of 1)
> "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post nsadmin"... Connecting to prog...
> Operating system error

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I pay for Technical support? re: MailMan?

2002-08-13 Thread irwin

On Tuesday 13 August 2002 08:24 am, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
> On 8/13/02 6:58 AM, "Support Desk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Anyone
> > who thinks they can "host" from their basement, using DSL
> > or Cable, is sadly misinformed,
>
> Okay, I've been doing exactly that (well, back room, not basement) since
> 1995. How am I badly misinformed? I mean, it works fine. I've been
> slashdotted multiple times and my server doesn't implode, unlike many
> others.
>
> Frankly, I don't think you have a clue here. I'm DOING IT. Have been for
> years. So why don't I have a clue? And you do?

And you're not alone.   I'm sure their are many of us enjoying our reliable 
DSL connections and running servers with multiple nodes, static IP's, and 
multiple domains. 

Irwin

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Re: [Mailman-Users] problems with email

2002-08-01 Thread irwin

On Wednesday 31 July 2002 12:31 pm, you wrote:

>
> I checked the aliases and virtualalias files and cannot find any place
> where MailMan created the mail alias when it created the list.
>
> Any ideas you have would be most helpful.

Mailman can't create it since it doesn't know which MTA you are using.  You 
to modify the aliases and virtualalias files.

Irwin

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Fwd: [Mailman-Users] Approval notice

2002-08-01 Thread irwin

Did you subscribe to the list after creating it?

Irwin


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Subject: [Mailman-Users] Approval notice
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:09:30 -0700
From: "Fawad Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

After creating a new test list I set the option under privacy options
That the mails being sent to this mail need not be approved by an
Administrator but I still keep getting the following mail.

But, then it never sends me an email asking me to approve or disapprove
this Email. Ideally I'd like it to post the mail without the approval
but cannot
think of any other option other than the privacy option that I have
already checked.

I am the admin of the concerned list.

Thanks,
Fawad.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Your message to Fawad3-test awaits moderator approval


Your mail to 'Fawad3-test' with the subject

(no subject)

Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.

The reason it is being held:

Message has implicit destination

Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive
notification of the moderator's decision.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie needs help

2002-07-31 Thread irwin

On Wednesday 31 July 2002 06:20 pm, you wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>   I am a newbie self taught Linux user, so this is probably
> embarrassingly simple.  I have installed Mailman, run check_perms
> and fixed the errors from that, and my test list sends to me.  However, the
> web pages and e-mail sent to the list both return messages (below).  I
> think part or all of my problem is setting the server so Mailman is allowed
> to run CGI scripts.  I have no idea where to set this permission, and am
> unsure of what to write to the appropriate file.  I am running Redhat 7.1
> and Ensim.
> Thanks in advance, Paul

Looks to me like you are running a later version of sendmail which uses a 
smrsh utility for the /etc/aliases file executions.   If you have the source, 
read README.SENDMAIL and see if that is your problem.  If you don't have that 
file. drop a a personal note and I'll send it to you.

Irwin



> ---
>- Mail sent
> to test list returns:
>
> - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
> "|/home/virtual/site5/fst/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test4"
>  (reason: service unavailable)
>  (expanded from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
>
> - Transcript of session follows -
> smrsh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs
> 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable
> Reporting-MTA: dns; ensim.rackshack.net
> Arrival-Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:12:03 -0500
>
> Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> X-Actual-Recipient: X-Unix;
>
> |/home/virtual/site5/fst/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test4
>
> Action: failed
> Status: 5.5.0
> Diagnostic-Code: X-Unix; 69
> ---
>-
> http://women-of-worth.org/mailman/admin/test4 returns:
> Internal Server Error
> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable
> to complete your request.
> Please contact the server administrator, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
> inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have
> done that may have caused the error.
> More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
>
> Apache/1.3.19 Server
> -

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Fwd: [Mailman-Users] Corrupt Archive Help

2002-07-31 Thread irwin

Try the following:

cd /var/mailman/archives/private
touch milcom.mbox/milcom.mbox

I need to do that with each new list.  Your path may be different.

Irwin

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I am getting the following error in Mailman logs.

Jul 31 08:49:02 2002 qrunner(1567): ValueError: insecure string pickle
Jul 31 08:49:02 2002 (1567) CORRUPT ARCHIVE FOR LIST: milcom

When I run arch against the list it bombs out with a bad marshal data error.

I have seen several requests for help on this in the archives of this list
 but no replies as how to fix it.

Any help would be appreciated.

Tim


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Fwd: Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderated list

2002-07-30 Thread irwin


On the Privacy Option page put the address you will be posting from in the
 "Addresses of members accepted for posting to this list without implicit
 approval requirement" box.

That worked. 

Thanks.

Irwin

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Re: Fwd: Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderated list

2002-07-30 Thread irwin

On Tuesday 30 July 2002 10:32 am, you wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 09:10:30AM -0700, irwin wrote:
> > Doesn't appear to be.   Unless somehow it is comparing to host.domain.com
> > instead of just domain.com, but I cannot find any reference in any of the
> > headers to host.domain.com.
>
> Does this question from the FAQ (http://www.list.org/faq.html) sound at
> all like what you're seeing?
>
>   Q. I set member_posting_only to yes because I want to limit posts to
>   members only, however it seems like all messages coming from members
>   are held for approval. Why?

No.I set up a new list for testing.   First, I made the list un-moderated 
and subscribed.   The message was delivered without requesting approval.
Secondly, I made the list moderated and posting from the administrator 
account the message requested approval.
Lastly, I moved to another computer, a WIN 98, with a different internet 
account, made that account an administrator, subscribed, and tried to post.  
The result was that both administrators received a message requesting 
approval.

Maybe that is the way it is supposed to work?  

Thanks for your help.

Irwin

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Fwd: Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderated list

2002-07-30 Thread irwin

On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 08:44:03AM -0700, irwin wrote:
> Is there an option so that the list administrator may post without my
> having to approve my own postings?

Hmmm ... I've had some difficulties with this, because my username is
[EMAIL PROTECTED], but I email from [EMAIL PROTECTED]; the latter is
an alias for the former, but mailman doesn't know that. Consequently, if
I'm not careful about giving other mailing lists the right subscription
information, I'll get my messages put in queue to be processed by the
administrator.

Is that similar to your problem?

Steve

Thanks for the reply.

Doesn't appear to be.   Unless somehow it is comparing to host.domain.com 
instead of just domain.com, but I cannot find any reference in any of the 
headers to host.domain.com.

Irwin

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[Mailman-Users] Moderated list

2002-07-30 Thread irwin

I just installed mailman-2.0.13 on RedHat Linux 7.2.  Working okay for three 
lists I have set up.   Two of them are moderated lists, for posting, and even 
my post as list administrator required approval.   

Is there an option so that the list administrator may post without my having 
to approve my own postings?

Thanks.

Irwin

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[Mailman-Users] Trying to load large(?) mailing list, it gets corrupted

2002-03-18 Thread StockCarFans, Mike Irwin


I am a brand new user of Mailman and Python, with primarily a IBM
mainframe and Windows background.

I am trying to load a 12,000 member mailing list using the mass add HTML
page.

Using iManager, I am looking at   / {HOME} / usr / local / mailman /
logs / error 

The following error appears.

admin(23163): [- Mailman Version: 2.0.7 -]
admin(23163): [- Traceback --]
admin(23163): Traceback (most recent call last):
admin(23163):   File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 96, in
run_main
admin(23163): main()
admin(23163):   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 63,
in main
admin(23163): FormatAdminOverview()
admin(23163):   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line
199, in FormatAdminOverview
admin(23163): l = MailList.MailList(n, lock=0)
admin(23163):   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 79,
in __init__
admin(23163): self.Load()
admin(23163):   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 903,
in Load
admin(23163): raise Errors.MMCorruptListDatabaseError, e
admin(23163): MMCorruptListDatabaseError

Now I can tell the list is corrupt, but how would I be able to tell why
or how this is happening?

Any help very much appreciated!!!

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