[Mailman-Users] Re: AT Blocking (was AOL list member not receiving list traffic)
Hi Just another RBL testing site: https://multirbl.valli.org/lookup/ Kind regards, Christian Mack Am 10.09.22 um 15:37 schrieb Julian H. Stacey: No known instances of members reporting us as spam. Un-realised reports are worse, where you only later discover your domain name or an IP number has been falsely listed. I searched for a tool to periodically run, to automatically scan with a list of RBL providers, whether any RBL has silently listed your domain names or numbers: http://www.anti-abuse.org/multi-rbl-check/ https://mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx https://rspamd.com/doc/modules/rbl.html Any recommendations ? Opinion: Bad enough that some commercial companies profit by dumping their admin problems on the innocent far end. Worse that the far end may be an unpaid organisation, so companies steal time from volunteer admins. Worst are fake RBL lists, criminal libelling for profit http://berklix.org/~jhs/mail/sorbs/ I have list members who admitted incompetence to unsubscribe majordomo, less with mailman. Worse were the lazy who refused to learn, demanding to waste volunteer admin time for manual help. Procmail rules discarded their noise. Worst were malicious faked reports to black listers. Cheers, -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: Flooded with signup requests
Hello You only can enable captcha on your registration form. Kind regards, Christian Mack Am 28.07.22 um 10:50 schrieb Max: Hi, I'm admin for multiple lists and I am getting flooded with fake signup requests. I have already set signup to "confirm and allow". I've also added a lot of domais to the ban list (see below), still I get tons of gmail and yahoo signups which I can't blanket ban since some legitimate users use these mail providers. What else can I do? It also seems that the same address is trying to sign up multiple times and this results in multiple mails to the admins/moderators. How can I at least stop the bots from repeated signups with the same email? ^.*@zenithhomes.com.au$ ^.*@aol.com$ ^.*@qq.com ^.*@yandex.ru$ ^.*@mail.ru$ ^.*@narod.ru$ ^.*@customs.gov.ua$ ^.*@womclub.com$ ^.*@cox.net$ ^.*@naiau.kiev.ua$ ^.*@dostavkadobra.com.ua$ ^.*@mfa.gov.ua$ ^.*@i.ua$ ^.*@vng.com.vn$ ^.*@contactplatinum.com$ ^.*@ukr.net$ ^.*@aga.org$ ^.*@sbcglobal.net$ ^.*@msn.com$ ^.*@163.com$ ^.*@verizon.net$ ^.*@comcast.net$ ^.*@earthlink.net$ ^.*@tmomail.net$ ^.*@dvdevgroup.com$ ^.*@hqsec.com$ ^.*@centurylink.net$ ^.*@gmai.com$ ^.*@nijel.ca$ ^.*@globals-globals.com$ ^.*@omnicell.com$ -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: max value of mailman2
Hello Am 15.02.22 um 10:19 schrieb kukyayuni--- via Mailman-Users: > > I would like to know the MAX values listed below for mailman2. > Is there any document that explains them? > > Is there a limit to the number of mailing lists that can be created in > mailman2? > What is the maximum number of recipients that can be registered to a single > mailing list created by mailman2? There is no limit for maximum number of mailing lists. You need enough disk space for settings and archives on your system. And your system has to be able to cope with the traffic. There is no limit for maximum members of one list. It all depends on your system and its network capabilities. As long as you have enough network bandwidth for sending to those members in a timely fashion everything is well. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Christian Mack Mailinglisten-Administration Universität Konstanz Kommunikations-, Informations-, Medienzentrum (KIM) Abteilung IT-Dienste Forschung & Lehre 78457 Konstanz, Deutschland ++49 7531 88 4416 -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: Should CSRF check disregard case of addresses?
Hello Am 13.12.21 um 12:09 schrieb Sebastian Hagedorn: > Hi, > > thanks for the recent security fixes regarding potential CSRF attacks! I > checked our mischief logs for relevant messages today and the only one I > found was this: > > Nov 24 19:33:24 2021 (117276) Form for user x...@smail.uni-koeln.de > submitted with CSRF token issued for x...@smail.uni-koeln.de. > > The only difference is in the case of the email address. I’m no expert > on CSRF attacks, but to me it seems as though the comparison should > perhaps disregard differences in case only? > As local part of an email address can be case sensitive, this should only be case insensitive for the domain part. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Christian Mack Mailinglisten-Administration Universität Konstanz Kommunikations-, Informations-, Medienzentrum (KIM) Abteilung IT-Dienste Forschung & Lehre 78457 Konstanz, Deutschland ++49 7531 88 4416 -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: OpenPGP and S/MIME aware Mailman
Hello Am 11.02.21 um 19:24 schrieb Dennis Putnam: > Does anyone have any experience with this that can provide a review > and/or advice? TIA. > > http://non-gnu.uvt.nl/mailman-pgp-smime/ > 1) From the site itself: "Beware! This code has not been touched since 2010-09. Therefore, it's mainly obsolete. DO NOT USE THIS CODE" 2) In my experience the main problem is not to decrypt and encrypt emails, it is to get the public keys of your users and keep your private keys valid. For a public encrypted mailing list server you need an S/MIME certificate *and* an PGP certificate for each list. That is, because you usually can not restrict users to one method or the other, and they are not compatible. Especially S/MIME certificates expire after some time (yearly, or up to 5 years). Your PGP certificates should expire too, for security reasons. You need to keep them both up to date with overlapping new certificates. And you need to distribute their public keys to your users. Then you need to know the preferred encryption method of each user plus their public keys. Those will change too, therefore you need some mechanism to get the current one and keep them in sync. And make sure, to never use expired ones. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Christian Mack Mailinglisten-Administration Universität Konstanz Kommunikations-, Informations-, Medienzentrum (KIM) Abteilung IT-Dienste Forschung & Lehre 78457 Konstanz, Deutschland ++49 7531 88 4416 -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: Virtualhosts in mailman 3 / postorius
Hello Sorry, but you are on the wrong mailinglist. This ione is for Mailman 2 only. Kind regards, Christian Mack Am 25.09.20 um 12:49 schrieb Johannes Rohr: > Dear all, > > I am now playing around with Mailman 3, considering to migrate > eventually. Reading the documentation, I haven't understood whether > there is still a possibility to configure virtual hosts within mailman. > > My goal is to ensure that visitors of https://lists.domain1.org only see > the lists @lists.domain1.org and not the others, just as the setting > VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = 1 in /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py does. I would assume > that one can have a similar behaviour in mailman3, can't one? > > Thanks a lot in advance! > > Johannes > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ > -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: Problem with outlook.com
Hello Am 23.09.20 um 15:29 schrieb nikos: > Hello list. > > For some reason none of hotmail or outlook users don't receive any of > our newsletter. Finally all of them auto unsubscribe. > > The following is an error received form protection.outlook.com: > > Remote Server returned '550 5.6.0 CAT.InvalidContent.Exception: > ExchangeDataException, Decoding of header Subject failed+ADs- raw value: > +AFs-Ps+AF0- > +AD0-?iso8859-7?b?wer98fnz5yDF8OX05enh6t7yIOXq5N7r+-fPn8iDz9Oft?+AD0-; > cannot handle content of message > > That happened since September 10th this year. Before, all received > without problem. > > Any suggestions? > Seems you have an encoding problem in your subject fields. I assume you add something which isn't in a character set matching your List settings for default language. Therefore mailman doesn't encode it properly and sends 8-bit characters in the subject. Specifically the starting: +AFs-Ps+AF0-+AD0- Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: forbidding subscriptions to a list
Hello Am 21.08.20 um 09:53 schrieb Lucio Chiappetti: > I am maintaining a list on mailman 2.1.18 on a server I have no control > (actually it is some 1000's km from here). The list is absolutely > closed, reserved to a committee with a small membership which is > updated, if any, every severl years. > > In the last days the list is receiving subscription requests from odd > addresses, apparently in couples. When I found two of them yesterday, I > rejected them with a notice "list usage reserved ". Today I found a > mail announcing two further requests, and when I entered the > administrative interface found two more. > > I would like to close completely the list from subscription requests (so > that they can be inserted only by the administrators). > > I thought to set ban_list ^.*@.* > > Is there any other better option ? > Will the ban_list interfere with existing subscriptions ? > This is a known attack wave, running since 2 days now. Where Skripts use the web interface to subscribe a lot of email addresses. I do not know how to disable the subscription page altogether. I assume Mark will comment on that :-) We are mitigating this by: * subscription requires admin to agree * Hardening web interface with settings in mm_cfg.py: SUBSCRIBE_FORM_SECRET SUBSCRIBE_FORM_MIN_TIME BLOCK_SPAMHAUS_LISTED_IP_SUBSCRIBE BLOCK_SPAMHAUS_LISTED_DBL_SUBSCRIBE RECAPTCHA_SITE_KEY RECAPTCHA_SECRET_KEY Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Toggle plain text setting for new users
Hello Per default mailman is distributing whatever it gets. Check your settings in admin page topic "Content filtering". Kind regards, Christian Mack Am 22.04.20 um 15:11 schrieb Johannes Rohr: Dear all, I would like to toggle a default setting for new users, name the HTML/plain text switch. In our use case, having everything converted to plain text by default is not very practical. I am not sure how I achieve this, this question isn't mentioned in the FAQ either. I am looking for a global switch to be put in mm_cfg.py or a local config option for each of the lists. So far I haven't found either. Would greatly appreciate any hint!!! Johannes -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] New installation sudo /etc/init.d/mailman start
Hello Am 18.03.20 um 13:06 schrieb scoutdubna: I have made a new installation of mailman using https://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-and-configure-mailman-with-postfix-on-debian-squeeze This is on an Ubuntu 18.04 server hosted by IONOS I get all the way through but when I input the start command sudo /etc/init.d/mailman start I get the error sudo: /etc/init.d/mailman: command not found Any ideas please? Ubuntu 18.04 uses mostly systemd. Try: sudo service mailman start or sudo systemctl start mailman Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman eats this message. Why?
Hello Sending text/html emails is ok. But using "Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit" with UTF-8 content can get it dumped if: * there is any character not ASCII in the whole email * there is any line with more than 1000 characters in the whole email Not sure, if that is your problem, as you redacted the contents. Kind regards, Christian Mack Am 31.07.19 um 23:13 schrieb Brett Delmage: > I've been having trouble with one subscriber whose content was always > stripped. > > After changing a Content filtering flag and discovering that lynx was > not installed, my tests of my own multipart html + text, and html-only > messages indicated I had finally had Mailman correctly configured, or so > it seemed. I got content in both cases. > > But a test message from this user appears to have been eaten by MM. > Postfix shows delivery to the MM list alias and that's where it ends. MM > logs nothing for this message in any log and it is not posted. > > Using Mailman version: 2.1.29 > > I have included the Content filtering section from bin/config_list and a > stripped-down version of the message that went AWOL with content and > headers that are of potential interest. > > I'd welcome any suggestions or requests for more info or next debugging > steps as may be appropriate. Thank you! > > Brett > > p.s. forget asking this user to send multipart including text. Some > users are just incapable of that. But if I have to inform him that his > HTML-only messages as sent will never get through MM, that's ok. > > > lost message: > > Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 15:14:23 -0400 (EDT) > ... > Message-ID: > <566705347.6949993.1564600463102.JavaMail.open-xchange@mtlgui02> > Subject: Re: Please help us test the new freelance email list server > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Mailer: Open-Xchange Mailer v7.6.1-Rev29 > X-Originating-Client: open-xchange-appsuite > > > "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd;> xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;> > > > > > Hi Brett:Would be great to participate in the > discussions on the list. > thanks > > -- Original Message -- ... > > > > > > > --- > > excerpt of config_list -o: > > filter_content = 1 > > filter_mime_types = '' > > pass_mime_types = """multipart/mixed > multipart/alternative > multipart message/rfc822 > text/plain > text/html""" > > filter_filename_extensions = """exe > bat > cmd > com > pif > scr > vbs > cpl > pdf > zip > doc > rtf > xls > vcf""" > > pass_filename_extensions = '' > > collapse_alternatives = True > > convert_html_to_plaintext = True > > filter_action = 3 > -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How long will Mailman version 2 be supported for?
Hello See: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg71795.html Kind regards, Christian Mack Am 21.06.19 um 00:07 schrieb Steven Jones: > > thanks > > > regards. > Steven -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] From Address for 'mailpasswds'
Am 05.06.19 um 20:18 schrieb Dennis Putnam: > Hi Mark, > > After looking at this a bit I have a question. Are the strings 'owner', > 'request' and 'bounces' appended to the list name? > > list1-owner@domain > list1-request@domain > list1-bounces@domain > yes. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Starting mailman on reboot
Am 26.02.19 um 08:59 schrieb Odhiambo Washington: > Server: Ubuntu 18.01 > > I have followed these: > http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node42.html > > % update-rc.d mailman defaults > > But still, mailman doesn't start on reboot. > > Nothing in the logs suggest any reason. > Ubuntu 18.04 is a systemd based distro. Per default it is not using system V init system anymore. Check systemd-sysv-generator for getting those running. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing not made easy?
Hi Am 07.12.18 um 14:06 schrieb Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users: > > I have a Mailman 2.1.27 installation on cPanel 76.0.7. > > Today a subscriber of a list sent an empty email trying to unsubscribe. He > addressed the message to the list address , with the > subject "unsubscribe", and else nothing. But instead of his unsubsciption > being processed, Mailman sent a message to the kist owners telling us to > approve or reject the message. > > As a reason it was mentioned "message might contain mailman commands". > > Of course, at the end of each list message a footer is added mentioning the > address - but isn't it a standard alternative > procedure to unsubscibe using the command in the subject field of an else > empty message? > No. > Is there anything I could do with the list configuration to correct the > behaviour? > No, as the behaviour is correct. Your list owners could manually remove the user as requested. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unexpected password reminder from this list
Hello Am 06.08.2018 um 10:22 schrieb Jayson Smith: > > Last night at 11:15 or so, I received a password reminder from > Mailman-users, with my correct password. Only problem is, I never > requested such a reminder. Did anyone else get one, was someone testing > something with a random sample of subscribers, or was I targeted (not > realizing that they'd have to hack my Email account to get the password)? > Password reminders are enabled on List level. Each admin of a list can set that. You can disable monthly reminders in the listinfo page after login with your list credentials. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not sending mail???
Am 19.04.2018 um 13:16 schrieb Jon Clements: > Hi, my Mailman seems to have stopped sending mail. Posts to a list(s) are > not going anywhere, nor for example, subscribe notifications, etc. are not > going out. It seems to be receiving mail as pending moderator requests are > there. Webadmin seems to be working normally (except for not sending mail > when requested). Where do I start looking? Sorry, not very technically > proficient, it's a wonder I got it (Mailman v. 2.1.20) up and running a > couple years ago on Mac OS 10.10.5 (using Server v. 5.0.15) but it has been > running great since then (until now). I will say there was quite a bit of > spam coming in before the problem started, and I stopped Mail service (on > Server) for about a day to hopefully make it go away, and then the Mailman > sending problem cropped up after I re-started Mail service (I think). > Local/normal Mail accounts seem to be working fine. > > Appreciate any help you can give me... > I had a died OutgoingRunner a couple of times. Check if all mailman processes are still running. If not restart mailman. Kind regards Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Brute force attacks on mailman web ui
Hi Am 16.04.2018 um 00:53 schrieb Steven Jones: > Hi, > > We are currently under brute force attack on our mailman server's web ui. > Is there anything / feature that Mailman has that can be used to > watch/monitor it? > Sadly I think we'll have to remove it off the Internet. > > This is not a mailman specific problem. Brute Force attempts can only be mitigated by e.g. fail2ban. It monitors your log files and will block access for IPs that try to login too often with invalid credentials for a short time. This will only catch IPs which try multiple times. A DDoS with constantly changing IPs will still hurt you. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderator Message List
Hello Am 06.12.2017 um 00:38 schrieb List Manager: > Yesterday, I asked: Is there a way, with mailman 2.1.24 to sort the > Pending Moderator > Requests list in something other than alphabetically? Chronologically > would be especially helpful. > > And Mark answered: >> Yes. >> First of all, the "Discard messages marked Defer" selection will not >> discard any messages which aren't listed and marked Defer on the page >> when you submit it, so you don't need to worry about discarding messages >> that arrived after you loaded the page. > > VERY good to know... HOWEVER, since my moderator list of deferrals has > both SPAM and a few members set to moderate, and I check these moderated > members' messages as I encounter them on the list, that means the list > is being reloaded after each moderated message I handle, so my fear is > justified (though I wish it were not)... > You always have to check all listed emails on the moderation page, before using that button. Moderation is a tedious task, and there is nothing to prevent that. >> As far as sorting is concerned, if you can update the server config or >> influence those that can > > I can do both/either > > # Shall the admindb held message summary display the grouping and > sorting > # option radio buttons? Set this in mm_cfg.py to one of the following: > # SSENDER -> Default to grouped and sorted by sender. > # SSENDERTIME -> Default to grouped by sender and sorted by time. > # STIME -> Default to ungrouped and sorted by time. > DISPLAY_HELD_SUMMARY_SORT_BUTTONS = No > > Key question here: does this impact ALL lists on the server, or just my > list? I have not mucked about with configuration settings for the list, > save those on the Admin web page(s), and we have several lists managed > by other people, whose toes I'd like to avoid trampling upon... You activate a default setting for all lists, but all admins/moderators can change that for their list in the moderation page. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] list_members when listname has a period
Am 21.11.2016 um 08:37 schrieb Mark Dale: > Hi, > > If a list's name has a period in it, the "bin/list_members" doesn't seem > to like it. For example: > > $PATH/bin/list_members -f acme_widgets (works fine) > > $PATH/bin/list_members -f acme.widgets (gets ignored) > > I've tried escaping the period, wrapping the name in quotes, and I'm not > seeing anything in the bin file - list_members - as an obvious place to > hack. > > Any clues from anyone would be greatly appreciated. > Works for me. Which version of mailman are you using? Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Start qrunner on ElCapitan (MacOS X Server)
Am 18.10.2016 um 10:57 schrieb Matthias Schmidt via Mailman-Users: > Hello, > I’m trying to start mailman on startup with ElCapitan. > > I tried a plist in LaunchDaemons - that was working in the past with the > command: > /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start > > this produces now the error: > Service only ran for 2 seconds. Pushing respawn out by 8 seconds > > the error log says: > The master qrunner lock could not be acquired because it appears as if another > master qrunner is already running > > So it starts, creates a lock as localhost … and then it tries to start again. > > than I created a startup script as described here: > https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/BPSystemStartup/Chapters/StartupItems.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/1172i-SW9-CJBBHDII > > and it does … nothing > > the only thing which works currently is starting it manually with sudo > and this is kind of inconvenient > > I installed mailman manually without using macports or something like that. > > I hope someone on the list can share some insight here. > Do you shutdown mailman cleanly? If not, you leave a pid file behind, which will prevent mailman from starting. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] email subscribe command not responding
Hello Walt Thiessen Am 2014-04-15 23:25, schrieb Walt Thiessen: I have a list where the email command to subscribe another user doesn't seem to work when I include it in the body of an email and send it to mylist-requ...@mydomain.tld. subscribe [$$PASSWORD$$] [digest|nodigest] [address=$$ADDRESS$$] When I try to use it, I get no notification back of any kind. is there a setting somewhere that might be affecting this functionality? Did you activate this functionality for this list mylist ? Look for: administrivia - Yes autorespond_requests(Yes if you want always a response) autorespond_request_text Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] 'Dynamic' footer
Hello Rodti MacLeary Am 2014-03-13 10:40, schrieb Rodti MacLeary: I've trawled the archives and found a variety of questions asking how dynamic content might be added to Mailman message footers, but no real answers. While I appreciate that the Mailman tags available to the footer can be useful for adding list admin info etc into the footer, it would be nice to be able to inject scripted or dynamic content in there. Even if the footer could be persuaded to read a text file (like the other template files) then that text file could be updated. If there's no current solution or workaround to this is it something that could be considered for Mailman 3? You could use bin/config_list -i text_file.txt yourlist for the corresponding list. You would have to provide your text file in mailman config syntax to this command. So something like this in the text file text_file.txt would work: msg_footer = Some Text to put at the footer. With multiple lines. And with tags like %(host_name)s. digest_footer = Some Text to put at the digest footer. With multiple lines. And with tags like %(host_name)s. This also works for headers. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Add a footer to each digest entry that will allow a reply
Hello Steve Nospam Am 2014-03-12 19:25, schrieb Steve Nospam: I would like to add a footer to each message in the digest that will allow the recipient to click and post a reply with the correct subject, etc. Is this possible? My searches haven't produced any useful hits. No, it is not possible. I have subscribers who only want to get a single email each day but they would like to answer some of the postings. For that there is MIME digest. http://www.list.org/mailman-member/node28.html But then your subscribers have to use an email client which supports MIME digest mails. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Prefix for subject line
Hello nikos Am 2014-02-03 09:43, schrieb nikos: What will happened if i remove (leave blank) Prefix for subject line? You will get subjects without any prefix for that list ;-) Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] niltonp...@hotmail.com is sending OoO messages (with Adverts)
Hello Mark Sapiro Am 2014-01-15 04:45, schrieb Mark Sapiro: On 01/14/2014 02:41 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Jim Popovitch jim...@gmail.com wrote: Posts to MM-Users gets you a strange OoO message, from niltonp...@hotmail.com, with a Travel - Promotional Prices advertisement. Booo! If I get the same response to this post I will disable his delivery. I didn't get an autoresponse to this. Has anyone else seen one in reply to their mailman-users posts? No I didn't get any autoresponses from the list. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] couple of questions...
Hello Ricardo Kleemann Am 2014-01-15 06:32, schrieb Ricardo Kleemann: On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: On 01/14/2014 04:28 PM, Ricardo Kleemann wrote: 1) What file would I modify to customize the text for the subscription results? I'm looking to customize the text in another language (pt_BR) but I can't find the text file. I do see the subscribe.html template and it makes a mention to MM-Results The replacement for the MM-Results tag is built on the fly by the Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py module. See that module for the English strings involved. These strings are the keys for the pt_BR translations in messages/pt_BR/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po. So I understand I need to use msgfmt.py to compile changes made to the text. It seems my mailman installation doesn't have that file, it's not in the bin directory and a locate msgfmt.py returns nothing... is there somewhere I can grab it? You need the GNU gettext package for your OS. msgfmt is a tool within it. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman doesn't send messages from smart phone
Hello Camelia Botez Am 2014-01-14 07:05, schrieb Camelia Botez: One of our user tried to send an e-mail to a mailing list from his smart phone including an attachment. He got back the following error message: The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce format was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted from it. This mailing list has been configured to send all unrecognized bounce messages to the list administrator(s). How can I fix this? Your user didn't email the list, but the bounce address of the list. Tell him to use the proper email address without -bounce in the name part. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Manual Weiel's moderating app?
Hello Peter Shute Am 2014-01-13 02:21, schrieb Peter Shute: I came across this thread about a moderating app written by Manuel Weiel: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg60445.html I can't find it in the App Store. Is it still available somehow? Did you try the given Link? http://cl.ly/DyCl Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How can I know what I joined the mailing list ?
Hello Tian Zhiying Am 2013-09-09 05:34, schrieb Tian Zhiying: I have subscribed a lot of mailing list, but how can I know what I joined the mailing list ? You will know the moment you get emails from each list :-) You will at least for mailman-users get a monthly reminder email. And, Mailman and OpenLDAP can integrate？ No, mailman uses its own authentication. AFAIK this is planned for Mailman 3 (which is in beta now). Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Tangential encryption issue, FWIW
Hello Lindsay Haisley Am 2013-05-07 04:40, schrieb Lindsay Haisley: Pursuant to a conversation I had on this list last year, I did develop a patch and application for AES encryption of the address of the posting subscriber and the list name and poking the result into the Resent-Message-ID. This is a patch against MM 2.1.15, not against the v3 development tree. I know I did suggest that I intended to put together some suggested code which would implement this in v3, but as they say, the road to Hell is paved with good intentions. I have a lot on my plate. If anyone would like a copy of my work, it's pretty simple, and if someone wants to pick up the ball and put it into MM3 they have my blessing. Let me know. Does that patch activate it for all lists, or selective for specified lists? Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and SpamAssassin
Hello Lindsay Haisley On 2012-08-28 17:24, Lindsay Haisley wrote: I'm putting in a new server and would like to integrate SpamAssassin into Mailman (2.1.15) according to the directions previously posted online at http://www.jamesh.id.au/articles/mailman-spamassassin/, which I updated at http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030589 and have been using successfully on another server. Unfortunately, the original article is no longer online. Does anyone know if there's a mirror or archive of it somewhere? Waybackmachine is your friend here. Be aware that pictures and multimedia files normally are not saved there. http://web.archive.org/web/20100323051444/http://www.jamesh.id.au/articles/mailman-spamassassin/ Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] creating second mailinglist
Hello Andre Vallese On 2012-08-09 14:03, Andre Vallese wrote: We have a mailinglist already running well. Now trying to create a new mailinglist. So we are on http://listen.ifz.name/mailman/admin and click on create new list. What appears is the site http://listen.ifz.name/mailman/create with the text: “Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@localhost and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error. More information about this error may be available in the server error log. Perhaps this is a permisson problem or a misconfiguration of suhosin, or your harddisk is full or ... Perhaps you should do what the error message suggests: Look into the apache server error log! Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Administratively subscribe other users via email
Hello Nick Bright
On 2012-08-14 01:59, Nick Bright wrote:
I'm sorry if this is a repeated question; but I've spent the last hour
searching/reading faq's and not finding anything useful.
I'm creating a newsletter mailing list, which I've successfully done -
now, I am trying to get my billing system to automatically add new
customers to the mailing list.
The easiest way to do this would be to have my billing system send an
email to mailman to subscribe the user.
However, I have as of yet been unable to locate any information on how
to do so.
I've tried using the Approved: header with a subscribe command in the
mail body, following the subscribe command syntax at
http://www.list.org/mailman-member/node41.html, but the response back
from mailman is that the commands remain unprocessed.
What is the correct syntax for doing this?
Send an email with subject help and empty body to your
${listname}-request@${your.mailman.server}.
You will get back a description of all commands supported by email.
Kind regards,
Christian Mack
--
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3
Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe:
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Error on attempt to create a List in Mailman 2.1.7-15.12.1 from Mailman Web admin UI
Hello Bob Perez, Hello Mark Sapiro On 2012-06-24 15:36, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 6/23/2012 12:33 PM, Bob Perez wrote: I see the error in the log with the list name I try to create (list1, etc) admin(10317): OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/list1.mbox' So looks like a permission problem. I ran ./check_perms and then check_db - Did not help. What does ls -ld /var/lib/mailman/archives/private show? What does ls -l /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/create (assuming that's the correct path to the create wrapper) show? I think if I do a chmod 755 -R /usr/lib/mailman/ , I may break something in mailman. Did not do this. Good. I see that the user mailman in the mailman group is the owner of the mailman files and directories, but after running the ./check_perms now root is the owner of the mailman group, however he is not a part of the group, so I made him a member - Same problem, even after restaring mailman with ./mailmanctl restart In general, the 'owner' of mailman's files doesn't matter. Everything is controlled by group permissions. All the qrunners run as group mailman. The web CGI wrappers are supposed to be SETGID and group mailman so they run with effective group mailman. I fell into that too. The problem is, that even after bin/fixurl is run, the archive directory /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/ has owner:group = mailman:mailman . You have to set it to wwwrun:mailman, in order for the apache server to have write access to it too. It needs write access for creating lists via webinterface. This was changed by the last update of mailman via SLES 10 updates, therefore is a distro bug. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Error on attempt to create a List in Mailman 2.1.7-15.12.1 from Mailman Web admin UI
Hello Stephen J. Turnbull On 2012-06-25 09:37, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Mailman Admin writes: The problem is, that even after bin/fixurl is run, the archive directory /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/ has owner:group = mailman:mailman . You have to set it to wwwrun:mailman, in order for the apache server to have write access to it too. The httpd doesn't need access to the archives; the mailman CGI does. So the CGI wrapper should be setgid mailman. Is it? Yes it is. ls -ld /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ drwxr-sr-x 2 root mailman 4096 Jun 14 08:37 /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ ls -l /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ total 144 -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 10832 May 18 19:18 admin -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 10840 May 18 19:18 admindb -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 10840 May 18 19:18 confirm -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 10840 May 18 19:18 create -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 10840 May 18 19:18 editarch -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 10840 May 18 19:18 edithtml -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 10840 May 18 19:18 listinfo -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 10840 May 18 19:18 options -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 10840 May 18 19:18 private -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 10840 May 18 19:18 rmlist -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 10840 May 18 19:18 roster -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 10840 May 18 19:18 subscribe This was changed by the last update of mailman via SLES 10 updates, therefore is a distro bug. +1 to that, though. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] more questions about Yahoo feedback loop and abuse complaints
Hello David On 2012-06-13 17:16, David wrote: We received 23 Yahoo feedback loop notices this morning from one user. Supposedly these are abuse or complaint notices. The person joined us in Sept of last year. After we received these notices from Yahoo today, we contacted the member. She did not remember reporting us as spam. She didn't offer us any useful feedback because she didn't remember any details. However, she *does* wish to continue receiving emails from our list. So it seems clear this was not an actual case of abuse. Unfortunately, Yahoo will not deliver our messages to this address any longer, as far as I know. And the person did not want to get a new email address. As mentioned previously, we try to follow all best practices. Emails from our list are DKIM signed, we have valid SPF records, rDNS is set up, our IP address is dedicated to this mailing list. The content is purely from members of the list, and every single message is moderated by a human so almost nothing ever slips by that would be a marketing-type message. (For example, if a member sends info about some product they have personally benefited from, we review those carefully to be sure the message is appropriate and informative, and is coming directly from a well-known and trusted member of our list.) The only info we received from Yahoo about this incident is the original message we sent and a line like this: This is an email abuse report for an email message received from example.com on Thu, 07 Jun 2012 03:32:29 PDT My questions are: 1. Why are we just receiving a feedback on 13 June 2012 for a message we sent out on 07 June 2012? With this kind of delay, it apparently leads to more abuse reports (23 in this case) because we can't remove that address until we are notified. (Again, in this case, the person actually wished to continue receiving emails.) You get it, when the Yahoo user is pressing the this is SPAM/Junk-Button. This can take some time. I once got one 14 Months after sending the actual message ;-) 2. Does an incident like this count 23 times against our Yahoo reputation? AFAIK this counts as one, because it was on one day and one recipient only. 3. Is anyone else seeing notification delays coupled with multiple notices like this? I never got multiple ones on the same message from one user, but from multiple users and on multiple messages from one user. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and cpanel - opinions?
Hello David On 2012-04-24 03:21, David wrote: We just switched to a new VPS host for our mailing lists. I was expecting a standard Mailman installation. Instead, we got a cpanel installation. All the Mailman stuff is moved around. Is it much different administering Mailman in the cpanel installation? I have never used cpanel. Normally, I just SSH into a server and do what needs to be done on the command line. I prefer that. Should we expect any problems in the future if we want to migrate to a normal Mailman installation without cpanel (e.g., apt-get install mailman on Ubuntu)? Can anyone who has experience in this area offer some opinions? Should we stick with this unexpected cpanel version of Mailman or will we regret it later? I'm guessing that cpanel uses exim instead of postfix. I'm not sure how to find out (other than ask the host), but that is unexpected too. I was expecting postfix. Did you read: http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/Mailman+and+CPanel http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030604 Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Adding archive link to mail footer?
Hello Sascha Rissel On 2012-03-05 16:26, Sascha Rissel wrote: is there a nice way of adding a link to the list's archive to msg_footer? Like it is done with the link to the list info page %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Sure. For private archives use %(web_page_url)sprivate/%(_internal_name)s And for public ones use %(web_page_url)spublic/%(_internal_name)s Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Thoughts about migrating to Mailman instead of Sympa (from Majordomo)
On 2012-01-19 19:32, Geoff Mayes wrote: I hope a general question about Mailman's features and future direction (along with some Sympa comparisons) are appropriate for this list. The University of Oregon is migrating away from Majordomo. We decided on Sympa because Mailman sends passwords over email ... Does anyone know a way around the emailed passwords issue in Mailman, clever hacks, certain plugins, or a timeline for Mailman 3's release? You can stop the cronjob used to email reminders. With this you don't email them to the users, but they will still be saved in clear text in Mailman. I've written a number of Django apps using my own LDAP module, so I was also wondering if folks think now is a mature-enough time to perhaps grab Mailman 3, its Django front-end, and hack together what I'm after? A final, random question: Mailman 3 is still in alpha, but is it stable given that it's almost been in alpha for 4 years? Didn't test it yet, so no comment from me. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] E-Mail Interface Documentation
Hello Sascha Rissel On 2012-01-20 09:04, Sascha Rissel wrote: is there a documentation of the email interface available somewhere? I found: http://www.list.org/mailman-member/node10.html but that page seems to be offline. You can send an email to any list with activated processing of email commands, in order to get the command syntax. Just send an email with subject help (without quotes) to somelist-requ...@yourdomain.org As an example mailman-users-requ...@python.org should work. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to subscribe user without notify one
Hi Степанов Роман Владимирович
On 2011-12-21 06:36, Степанов Роман Владимирович wrote:
We have automotive process to subscribe/unsubscribe when users visit
a site and select a specific list and leave their email than robot
must send a command by email to mailman to subscribe or unsubs that
user.
How to do it by email command not from GUI or command line tool
without notify user?
By email command you can't do that without knowing the password of the user.
From commandline use:
bin/remove_members --nouserack ${LISTNAME} ${LIST_OF_USERS_TO_UNSUB}
or
bin/remove_members --nouserack --file=${FILE_WITH_USERS_TO_UNSUB}
${LISTNAME}
Kind regards,
Christian Mack
--
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3
Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe:
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Duplicate posts?
On 2011-11-23 11:11, Carlos Palomino wrote: Several subscribers of my list are complaining of duplicate posts. They say it happens only sometimes. Are there any common reasons for such occurrences? I don't experience this on my test-member account or in my regularly subscribed address, so it's difficult to track down. Any ideas are appreciated. Perhaps this comes with users replying to all. So they send their reply to the user and the list. BTW: This is usually recommended in nettiquetts to do this. I always do it on lists. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] stuck bounce-events write
Hi Richard Haas On 2011-11-22 15:14, Richard Haas wrote: ... The original address that led to the bounce was accepted outbound for delivery, and then came back about 17 seconds later, after remote translation of someoneelse@someresearch.com to someone@telecdyne.com ... but cam back only once at: Nov 16 16:41:55 myhost amavis[26807]: (26807-14) Passed CLEAN, [66.18.18.67] [66.18.18.67] - mylist-news-boun...@my.org, Message-ID: 2016214143.10704.6...@hm-mx2b.solinus.com, mail_id: PvH5EnpUQiLg, Hits: -, size: 7808036, queued_as: 3272D601E21, 677 ms cut What do you get for the queued Message 3272D601E21 in your postfix.log? Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Is Character Permitted
On 2011-11-09 09:55, David Andrews wrote: Is the character allowed in a list name, such as in: artartists? No, as it must be a valid email address. In email addresses are only the following characters allowed a to z A to Z 0 to 9 . - _ Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] User management via email?
Hi Glenn Sieb On 08/10/2011 03:00 AM, Glenn Sieb wrote: On 8/3/11 2:35 PM, Chase, Edward wrote: I thought that I had done this task as part of my initial testing, but I cannot find that I documented that at all. My Google-fu is coming up very empty on the subject. I've found a number of people asking the same question with few replies. The best I found was a *dated* web page that states that user management is only possible via the web interface. Is it possible to do user management via email at this time? Not user management, but you can subscribe via email. You have to send a mail with FROM: set to the address you want to subscribe, TO: set to listname-request@servername.domain and Subject set to subscribe. The used address will get a confirmation request. On responding to that request it gets subscribed. Perhaps this is sufficient for you. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman on freeBSD 8.2: getgrgid error
Hello Rekhesh Mohan On 08/03/2011 08:23 AM, Rekhesh Mohan wrote: I can now confirm that issue is with system/OS security and not with mailman. getgrgid()-gr_name returns meaningful value only if a member of wheel group calls it. I added my apache-user www to wheel group (his primary group is still www) and mailman is happy - web interface is working. I am not sure about the security implications of apache user being a member of wheel group. The wheel group is the group for all admins not named root! You never should give the apache user admin privileges. If someone breaks into your apache she can overtake your whole machine at once. I don't know freeBSD. Does it use something like SELinux? Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Pending messages queue empty
Hi On 07/06/2011 02:39 PM, rfox wrote: Got it, mailman is not listserv. Thank you for the correction. Any specific help for my issue? Did you read the following? Mark Sapiro-3 wrote: See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/EoCE. Bye Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] PLEASE HELP
Hi Christy Johnson On 06/06/2011 06:33 PM, Christy Johnson wrote: One of my listservs stopped working a while back and some of the other ones have been finicky since. Then just today, the system automatically unsubscribed everyone who was on the listserv. I am completely at a loss for what to do here. I suspect you got a lot of bounces. Then mailman automatically unsubscribed your members because of this. You have to check your mailman logs and SMTP server logs, why you got bounces from all addresses in your lists. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] PHP front-end for Mailman?
Hi William Ashworth On 06/01/2011 06:44 AM, William Ashworth wrote: I've searched for a bit and perhaps nothing is available (or I'm typing the wrong searches). A client of mine is looking to integrate more tightly to their Mailman list. There's an archive page, but we're trying to format it nicely for inclusion on their website so that it matches for members to see. I can see two possibilities right now... 1. We write a custom PHP application to scrape and store the archive pages into a database to call later, however we want. 2. We create an email address and subscribe it to the list. Any new messages will be checked via a PHP script we build and stored in the database, then we'll pull from our own archive format however we choose. The only problem with #2 is that we lose 8 years of legacy emails that are already present in the archives. My best bet is to find some way to hook into the archives with PHP so that we can roll it into the rest of their complicated website. Looking at another development language other than PHP at this time would be a conflict of interest with the rest of their website applications. I may be dreaming, but if there's some way to nightly export the data to XML from the archive or something, which we can then (also) nightly import that XML data into a MySQL database, then the sky's the limit...I simply don't know if there's a standardized way to access the archived information, as scraping is very messy. I'm completely new to Mailman. Any assistance you can offer to help get my bearings straight would be greatly appreciated. There was an Google Summer of Code project last year, which tried to produce better archive frontends. Perhaps you should look there first: 1) threaded conversation demo http://dev.systers.org/pipermail/testing/all/conversation-3.html 2) search demo http://lists.priyakuber.in/cgi-bin/mailman/mailocate/search.py With documentation http://systers.org/systers-dev/doku.php/doumentation-priya And code http://github.com/beachbrake/Mailocate/tree/master/demo/ Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] PHP front-end for Mailman?
Hi William Ashworth
There is no database, but a file in mbox format.
You can find it under /${path_to_mailman}/archives/private/${listname}.mbox/
It contains all emails in order of arrival with all attachents.
Hope this helps a bit,
Christian Mack
On 06/01/2011 04:37 PM, William Ashworth wrote:
I'm attempting to learn more about the Mailman system in general as
well. If there's some form of database that the system uses to
store its archived message data, then I'm sure there's a way to build
a script around it. If the only form of stored data is actually just
static HTML files, then a scraper application may be the way to go.
Thoughts?
I'm checking out the links you sent over. Much appreciated.
-Original Message- From: Mailman Admin
[mailto:mailman-ad...@uni-konstanz.de]
On 06/01/2011 06:44 AM, William Ashworth wrote:
I've searched for a bit and perhaps nothing is available (or I'm
typing the wrong searches).
A client of mine is looking to integrate more tightly to their
Mailman list. There's an archive page, but we're trying to format
it nicely for inclusion on their website so that it matches for
members to see. I can see two possibilities right now...
1. We write a custom PHP application to scrape and store the
archive pages into a database to call later, however we want.
2. We create an email address and subscribe it to the list. Any
new messages will be checked via a PHP script we build and stored
in the database, then we'll pull from our own archive format
however we choose.
The only problem with #2 is that we lose 8 years of legacy emails
that are already present in the archives. My best bet is to find
some way to hook into the archives with PHP so that we can roll it
into the rest of their complicated website. Looking at another
development language other than PHP at this time would be a
conflict of interest with the rest of their website applications.
I may be dreaming, but if there's some way to nightly export the
data to XML from the archive or something, which we can then (also)
nightly import that XML data into a MySQL database, then the sky's
the limit...I simply don't know if there's a standardized way to
access the archived information, as scraping is very messy.
I'm completely new to Mailman. Any assistance you can offer to help
get my bearings straight would be greatly appreciated.
There was an Google Summer of Code project last year, which tried
to produce better archive frontends.
Perhaps you should look there first: 1) threaded conversation demo
http://dev.systers.org/pipermail/testing/all/conversation-3.html
2) search demo
http://lists.priyakuber.in/cgi-bin/mailman/mailocate/search.py With
documentation
http://systers.org/systers-dev/doku.php/doumentation-priya And code
http://github.com/beachbrake/Mailocate/tree/master/demo/
--
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3
Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe:
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] regarding specific mail ids
Hi Arun Gupta On 04/06/2011 05:40 PM, Arun Gupta wrote: First of all thanks for your response, Is it any way to customize my mailman to achieve my goal please give me some clue or some document. Perhaps you can use topics for this. http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/Mailman+2.1+Members+Manual#Mailman2.1MembersManual-9Mailinglisttopics But this depends on users setting topics while posting. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] The No Attachments Option
Hello Richard Troy On 03/10/2011 01:42 AM, Richard Troy wrote: Up until now many list participants on a list I manage have been clammoring for attachments, but in deference to some, we've prevented them. Now that the server has had its hardware upgraded and a new O/S installed (Fedora Core 14 with Mailman 2.1.13, and Postfix 2.7.1), I thought it'd be a good time to solve that problem. In sum, it would be _fantastic_ if list subscribers have an option to receive or not receive attachments on a per-user basis, much as users can now elect to recieve digests. But, as that option doesn't appear to exist, I was thinking I could facilitate the same effect by using two lists - maybe three. You can move attachments from incoming emails to the archive and send only a link to it to recipients. In this way only those who are interested in the attachment will have to download it. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] bilingual list problem
Hello
On 03/02/2011 08:38 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Henry Olders wrote:
What I would like would be a way to set mailman to NOT strip out accented
characters when english is set as the default language.
Add one of the following lines to mm_cfg.py depending on your preferred
character set
add_language('en', 'English (USA)','utf-8')
or
add_language('en', 'English (USA)','iso-8859-1')
Beware:
If you use utf-8, you have to change all english templates to contain
the Unicode BOM-Bytes at the beginning.
Kind regards
Christian Mack
--
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3
Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe:
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Missing emails
Hello Mike On 02/08/2011 02:35 PM, Mike McFall wrote: I have people on my list that seem to get some emails that are sent out, but not others. Anyone know why this might be? Yes, of course we do. Sorry, couldn't resist. ;-) There are multiple possibilities. A) There are limits defined by each email provider (e.g. max size, max number of recipients). So if you send an email to multiple providers some will get through and others won't, depending on these limits. B) Spam filtering is done by each provider on it's own. The same email will be passed on by some and dropped by others. C) Perhaps you have a misconfigured smtp server which delivers emails only to some domains. D) Perhaps there was an temporary network failure. This will lead to delayed delivery of emails. In order to check these, you should look into your smtp server log. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Backing Up the List of Members
Hi On 11/15/2010 07:08 PM, Alan McConnell wrote: I am now having the problem: I wish to back up the list of members of a couple of my lists to my home machine. I used to get all the members on one page. Now the members are alphabetized and each initial letter is put on a diffent page. I can still back-up, but it is a laborious process. As list admin you can set General Options -- admin_member_chunksize to a value bigger than the number of currently subscribed members. With that you get the old behaviour back with all members on one page instead of split into seperate alphabetized chunks. With this you don't need access to the console. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] How to change bounce_score_threshold value?
Hi all, we have about 300 lists. We would like to change the bounce_score_threshold value in all existing lists. How could we do it automatically? Next, is it possible to set another default value for the new lists? Thank you! Kind regards, Milda -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
