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Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > If the MTA were down, you'd get "connection refused". If it were > broken, the post would just disappear, to be found in the MTA's > queue. After sending some emails back and forth with the OP, including some from the Linux / Mailman host in question, I believe the problem to be a mis-configuration with the OP's MTA. It appears (according to headers) as if the OP is using fetchmail to pull messages out of a POP3 mail box on the GroupWise system and then injecting them via SMTP to the Linux / Mailman host. Postfix is then performing some expansion and messing up the delivery (hence the bounce(s) that I have received) and bouncing messages. As such I can be sure that Postfix is running on the Linux / Mailman host and that it knows how to send messages out to the world. I can also be sure that based on the contents of the DSN (expanded from ) That something, likely Postfix, is not configured properly on the Linux / Maiman host. > Start by checking for a network problem. Is the host plugged in to > the network? Is its IP address the one that DNS assigns to hearye? > Is that interface "up"? Is there a route from the GroupWise host to > the Linux host? Is it correct? What about firewalls? Many > organizations have firewalls that filter port 25 to all but a few > registered MXes. There may or may not be a firewall between the Linux / Mailman host, but seeing as how the OP is using fetchmail to retrieve messages from GroupWise, it does not really matter if the world can reach the Linux / Mailman host in question or not. Though, for email to function, there really does need to be an email server that is willing to accept email for the addresses that the Linux / Mailman host is sending out as. In this case, GroupWise is doing just fine. > BTW, this is not the place to get additional help until you have > confirmed that Mailman is visible to the world outside of the Linux > host. For general network problems and Linux advice, I strongly > recommend getting in touch with your local Linux Users Group (or Unix > or *BSD Users Group). LUG members are by and large happy to provide > concrete advice, and (if your organization permits) even free > hands-on diagnosis at off hours (well, not quite free, usual fee is > pizza and beer ;-). Agreed. Grant. . . . -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
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Tim Ferguson writes:
> This is the message I continue to receive when trying to send a
> post to the list.
> The message that you sent has been delayed.
>
> The reason given for the delay:
> 450 Host down (hearye.ccs135.com)
This looks highly unlikely to be a Mailman problem, nor an MTA
problem. If Mailman were broken, the post would bounce back ("no such
mailbox" or the like) or just disappear (and you would eventually find
it in Mailman's queue).
If the MTA were down, you'd get "connection refused". If it were
broken, the post would just disappear, to be found in the MTA's queue.
Start by checking for a network problem. Is the host plugged in to
the network? Is its IP address the one that DNS assigns to hearye?
Is that interface "up"? Is there a route from the GroupWise host to
the Linux host? Is it correct? What about firewalls? Many
organizations have firewalls that filter port 25 to all but a few
registered MXes.
BTW, this is not the place to get additional help until you have
confirmed that Mailman is visible to the world outside of the Linux
host. For general network problems and Linux advice, I strongly
recommend getting in touch with your local Linux Users Group (or Unix
or *BSD Users Group). LUG members are by and large happy to provide
concrete advice, and (if your organization permits) even free hands-on
diagnosis at off hours (well, not quite free, usual fee is pizza and
beer ;-).
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Tim Ferguson wrote: > This is the message I continue to receive when trying to send a post > to the list. I don't know if you have a firewall in between the Hearye and the world or not, but form the internets (and I believe GWIA's) perspective Hearye is not listing to port 25 on it's 209.174.197.37 IP. Please make sure that Postfix is configured to bind to port 25 on 209.174.197.37. Grant. . . . -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
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Tim Ferguson wrote: > >This is the message I continue to receive when trying to send a post to the >list. > >Tim > > >Tim Ferguson >Director of Technology >Centralia City Schools >Centralia, Illinois 62801 >618-532-1907, Ext. 1030 > > > > On 3/18/2009 at 9:14 PM, CCS135_D.GWIA.GATEWAY wrote: > > > >The message that you sent has been delayed. > >The reason given for the delay: >450 Host down (hearye.ccs135.com) There is nothing listening on port 25 at hearye.ccs135.com. Do you have an MTA running on that machine? Is it configured to listen on port 25? -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
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This is the message I continue to receive when trying to send a post to the list. Tim Tim Ferguson Director of Technology Centralia City Schools Centralia, Illinois 62801 618-532-1907, Ext. 1030 >>> On 3/18/2009 at 9:14 PM, CCS135_D.GWIA.GATEWAY wrote: The message that you sent has been delayed. The reason given for the delay: 450 Host down (hearye.ccs135.com) Information about your message: Subject: Special Announcement GroupWise Message Id: 49C1AA79.72D:189:6866 Message log tag: 1135103 Number of send attempts: 1 Time of initial send attempt: 03-18-09 21:14:37 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
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On 03/18/09 13:24, Tim Ferguson wrote: When I attempt to send a post to mailman, my GroupWise (8) GWIA sends me an e-mail that completion of the e-mail has been delayed because the server (Linux) is down, which it isn't. This message repeats about every fifteen minutes or so. Hum. This makes me believe that GWIA is not able to route email to the MTA, Postfix (guessing based on previous post), running on the Linux host. What (sub)domain are you using for your Mailman mailing lists? I.e. are your mailing lists part of your ccs135.com domain as in mailing_l...@ccs135.com or are they part of a sub-domain as in mailing_l...@sub_domain.ccs135.com? If you are using a sub-domain, do you have GWIA configured to route said sub domain to your Linux host? Since I've not worked with a Linux mail server before, what is the procedure, what software do I need, to send and receive e-mail using the Linux server as a regular user just to make sure mail is coming and going or to see where it might be hanging up? For install, will Thunderbird work, and, if so, how does it need to be configured? I realize this is very elementary, but it isn't cooperating like Novell's GroupWise or Microsoft's Exchange server. To start with, make sure that root on the Linux host can send it's self mail. I typically do something like 'ls' | mail -s "Testing..." root Note the single quotes around ls to turn off all formatting that may mess with the email. If that does work, try the same type of thing but sending the email to an address on the box with the full domain name on it. I.e. 'ls' | mail -s "Testing..." r...@example.net If that works, try sending the email to somewhere non local to the system. These all check "sending" of email, thus testing to make sure that your MTA is installed, functional, and running. If the above tests pass, then your problem likely is with routing email back in to the system. If you can, please give more details about your install as they will help in further diagnosing what is going on. Grant. . . . -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
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I've been tied up with other things and not been able to work on it, but I still can't use Mailman to send out posts because inbound traffic doesn't make it back to mailman. Thus, users register but their verification doesn't get "verified", etc. When I attempt to send a post to mailman, my GroupWise (8) GWIA sends me an e-mail that completion of the e-mail has been delayed because the server (Linux) is down, which it isn't. This message repeats about every fifteen minutes or so. Since I've not worked with a Linux mail server before, what is the procedure, what software do I need, to send and receive e-mail using the Linux server as a regular user just to make sure mail is coming and going or to see where it might be hanging up? For install, will Thunderbird work, and, if so, how does it need to be configured? I realize this is very elementary, but it isn't cooperating like Novell's GroupWise or Microsoft's Exchange server. Thank you! Tim Tim Ferguson Director of Technology Centralia City Schools Centralia, Illinois 62801 618-532-1907, Ext. 1030 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
