Re: [Mailman-Users] Best Mail Program to Use w/ Mailman

[Rich Kulawiec]

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:20:05AM -0500, Beyer, Clay wrote:
> We are setting up a Debian web server and would like to use Mailman to
> manage a couple of mailing lists that we control. After some initial
> complications with Mailman and Postfix we decided to uninstall and
> reinstall everything, before we get going again, I just wanted to get an
> idea of what the best mail program, taken from the Mailman
> Documentation, to use with Mailman... Postfix, Qmail, Exim, or Sendmail.

I strongly recommend against qmail, as it is not suitable for professional
or even amateur use.

I have deployed the rest in various environments numerous times.  None is
"best" across the board, but each may be "best" depending on your environment,
your needs, and your mail system knowledge.  Roughly, and I emphasize
ROUGHLY speaking:

- exim is the simplest to install and configure.   If your needs
are straightforward and modest, this might be the best choice.

- postfix is not as simple, but it *is* modular, well-designed,
and quite capable of supporting complex environments.

- sendmail is still more complex, but is widely known (in part
because of its longevity) and there is a larger knowledge base
for it than any other MTA.  Sendmail milters offer an extensive
feature set for sufficiently-advanced administrators.

Personally, I tend to use sendmail and postfix -- in part because I'm
usually dealing with non-straightforward environments.  However, I would
advise that if you think can manage with exim, you should at least try.

Without having detailed knowledge of the factors above (environment,
needs, knowledge) it's tough to say much further than that, but: if
you're only handling mail for one domain, if you're only handling mailing
list traffic, if you're not running an associated POP/IMAP server, if
you're running a single server, if you're handling low to moderate
volumes of traffic, then my guess would be that exim will work very
well for you.

---Rsk
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Best Mail Program to Use w/ Mailman

[Andrew Hodgson]

Beyer, Clay wrote:

>We are setting up a Debian web server and would like to use Mailman to
>manage a couple of mailing lists that we control. After some initial
>complications with Mailman and Postfix we decided to uninstall and
>reinstall everything, before we get going again, I just wanted to get an
>idea of what the best mail program, taken from the Mailman
>Documentation, to use with Mailman... Postfix, Qmail, Exim, or Sendmail.

Personally I would go with Debian's default of Exim and follow the well written 
instructions in the Debian package file 
/usr/share/doc/mailman/README.Exim4.Debian, it really is a cut and paste setup. 
 This basically emulates the Postfix virtual style setup, but includes the 
routers etc to get Exim to see the relevant virtual aliases files.

I have converted three Mailman setups that were using Postfix (on a mix of 
Ubuntu and FreeBSD) to this setup, and it worked fine.  In all these cases this 
was a separate box managing a bit of web stuff and lists, not the primary email 
server.

Thanks.
Andrew.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Best Mail Program to Use w/ Mailman

[Mark Sapiro]

On 2/23/2010 7:21 AM, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
> * Beyer, Clay :
>> We are setting up a Debian web server and would like to use Mailman to
>> manage a couple of mailing lists that we control. After some initial
>> complications with Mailman and Postfix we decided to uninstall and
>> reinstall everything, before we get going again, I just wanted to get an
>> idea of what the best mail program, taken from the Mailman
>> Documentation, to use with Mailman... Postfix, Qmail, Exim, or Sendmail.
> 
> Postfix
> That's what we're using here at python.org


And with Postfix, use Mailman's Postfix integration for automatic alias
generation. Don't use postfix-to-mailman.py.

Exim, with a Mailman router and transport per
 is another good choice for
ease of integration with Mailman.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Best Mail Program to Use w/ Mailman

[Ralf Hildebrandt]

* Beyer, Clay :
> We are setting up a Debian web server and would like to use Mailman to
> manage a couple of mailing lists that we control. After some initial
> complications with Mailman and Postfix we decided to uninstall and
> reinstall everything, before we get going again, I just wanted to get an
> idea of what the best mail program, taken from the Mailman
> Documentation, to use with Mailman... Postfix, Qmail, Exim, or Sendmail.

Postfix
That's what we're using here at python.org

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[Mailman-Users] Best Mail Program to Use w/ Mailman

[Beyer, Clay]

We are setting up a Debian web server and would like to use Mailman to
manage a couple of mailing lists that we control. After some initial
complications with Mailman and Postfix we decided to uninstall and
reinstall everything, before we get going again, I just wanted to get an
idea of what the best mail program, taken from the Mailman
Documentation, to use with Mailman... Postfix, Qmail, Exim, or Sendmail.


 

Thanks,

ClayB

 

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