[Mailman-Users] Displaying the sender email

2012-03-09 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,

Is there a way to configure Mailman lists so the From: line can say:

   From listn...@mymanserver.com [On Behalf of john@yahoo.com]

We are using a 3rd-party SMTP relay for all outbound mail, so we need to 
approve all senders for the service to allow the email to go through.

This poses a problem with the dozens of mailing lists we host, since it is not 
practical to approve hundreds (if not thousands) of members.

So what we are doing is configuring the mailman lists to Hide the sender of a 
message, replacing it with the list address (Removes From, Sender and Reply-To 
fields) , setting it to Yes.

So now all members of the list will see posts as:

   From: listn...@mymailmanserver.com

Instead of the address of the poster.

This is actually a good thing for us, and we actually prefer this behavior to 
ensure that discussions will stay on the lists, but also this solves the 
problem of the SMTP relay service, since now we only need to approve the 
wildcard for *@mymailmanserver.com so the service will relay the email.


The problem is that posters don't always include signatures, and we need to 
know who sent them, but by stripping out the original sender, unless they do 
include a signature in the body, members might not always be able to tell who 
posted to the list.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Displaying the sender email

2012-03-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 3/8/2012 8:39 AM, Duane Winner wrote:
 
 Is there a way to configure Mailman lists so the From: line can say:
 
 From listn...@mymanserver.com [On Behalf of john@yahoo.com]


First, please see the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/RoA9. Hopefully,
this will explain what MS Outlook is actually displaying as the From: of
the message.

T answer your question, no there is not, at least not as a standard
configuration. This could be done by setting the Sender: to
listn...@mymanserver.com instead of listname-boun...@mymanserver.com,
but this would not be desirable as it could result in bounces being
returned to the list instead of to bounce processing.


 We are using a 3rd-party SMTP relay for all outbound mail, so we need
 to approve all senders for the service to allow the email to go
 through.


Are you sure the relay is not looking at the envelope sender rather than
any From: or Sender: header in the message. I would expect that it is,
in which case, the addresses you need to 'whitelist' are the
listname-boun...@mymanserver.com addresses regardless of any From: in
the message.


 This poses a problem with the dozens of mailing lists we host, since
 it is not practical to approve hundreds (if not thousands) of
 members.
 
 So what we are doing is configuring the mailman lists to Hide the
 sender of a message, replacing it with the list address (Removes
 From, Sender and Reply-To fields) , setting it to Yes.
 
 So now all members of the list will see posts as:
 
 From: listn...@mymailmanserver.com
 
 Instead of the address of the poster.
 
 This is actually a good thing for us, and we actually prefer this
 behavior to ensure that discussions will stay on the lists, but also
 this solves the problem of the SMTP relay service, since now we only
 need to approve the wildcard for *@mymailmanserver.com so the
 service will relay the email.


I suspect the above will work regardless of any list settings.


 The problem is that posters don't always include signatures, and we
 need to know who sent them, but by stripping out the original sender,
 unless they do include a signature in the body, members might not
 always be able to tell who posted to the list.


Try setting anonymous_list back to No, and if you want to ensure that
discussions will stay on the lists, set reply_goes_to_list to This
list. I suspect that together with whitelisting *@mymailmanserver.com
will do what you want.

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