Re: [Mailman-Users] Does mailman send one message at a time, or all at once?

[Mark Sapiro]

Daevid Vincent wrote:
>
>So are you saying, I could tell mailman to group in chunks of say 50 and
>even though I have 150 people on the list, mailman would deliver 3 batches
>of 50 to cover them all? Thereby I can keep below my 100 / email limitation
>that this service provides me?


Just set

SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 50

in mm_cfg.py. You may also need to set

SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = 1

depending on how your smtp service counts the 50, i.e. 50 recipients in
one transaction vs. 50 in one connection.

See the

#
# Delivery defaults
#

section in Defaults.py for more info.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Does mailman send one message at a time, or all at once?

[Daevid Vincent]

 

> -Original Message-
> From: Brad Knowles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 6:33 PM
> To: Daevid Vincent
> Cc: 'Mailman Users'
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Does mailman send one message at 
> a time, or all at once?
> 
> At 6:06 PM -0800 2005-12-02, Daevid Vincent wrote:
> 
> >  I run a 'mailman v2.1.5' list for club events happening 
> around town. I have
> >  around 150 people on the list. Will this work? Does 
> mailman send out one
> >  message at a time, or will I be limited to this restriction above?
> 
>   By default, Mailman will group recipients together into chunks 
> the size specified in your mm_cfg.py, or in Defaults.py (if you 
> didn't put in anything in mm_cfg.py).

So are you saying, I could tell mailman to group in chunks of say 50 and
even though I have 150 people on the list, mailman would deliver 3 batches
of 50 to cover them all? Thereby I can keep below my 100 / email limitation
that this service provides me?

>   However, if you turn on personalization, then Mailman will send 
> out one message per person.  Search the FAQ for "VERP" and 
> "personalization" in order to learn more.
> 
> >  P.S. if anyone can suggest a way to get out of RBL hell, I 
> am all ears. I
> >  run Gentoo and Exim 4.54 on my home cable modem. I'm 
> getting increasingly
> >  frustrated with this RBL shit. Many ISPs (AOL, earthlink, 
> etc.) are blocking
> >  mail from my domain simply because I happen to be on a 
> Comcast (Seattle, WA)
> >  dynamic IP.
> 
>   Use an outbound mail relay service, whereby you pay 
> them money to 
> act as your relay.  Route all outbound mail through them.  Make sure 
> they're clean and not spammer-friendly, otherwise you're back in the 
> same RBL hell that you're in now.

Is this different than 
http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound.html
Or
http://www.no-ip.com/services/managed_mail/inbound_port_25_unblock.html

Can you (or anyone) suggest one that "just works" with my setup (above)?

Thanks for the reply.

Daevid.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Does mailman send one message at a time, or all at once?

[Brad Knowles]

At 6:06 PM -0800 2005-12-02, Daevid Vincent wrote:

>  I run a 'mailman v2.1.5' list for club events happening around town. I have
>  around 150 people on the list. Will this work? Does mailman send out one
>  message at a time, or will I be limited to this restriction above?

By default, Mailman will group recipients together into chunks 
the size specified in your mm_cfg.py, or in Defaults.py (if you 
didn't put in anything in mm_cfg.py).

However, if you turn on personalization, then Mailman will send 
out one message per person.  Search the FAQ for "VERP" and 
"personalization" in order to learn more.

>  P.S. if anyone can suggest a way to get out of RBL hell, I am all ears. I
>  run Gentoo and Exim 4.54 on my home cable modem. I'm getting increasingly
>  frustrated with this RBL shit. Many ISPs (AOL, earthlink, etc.) are blocking
>  mail from my domain simply because I happen to be on a Comcast (Seattle, WA)
>  dynamic IP.

Use an outbound mail relay service, whereby you pay them money to 
act as your relay.  Route all outbound mail through them.  Make sure 
they're clean and not spammer-friendly, otherwise you're back in the 
same RBL hell that you're in now.

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[Mailman-Users] Does mailman send one message at a time, or all at once?

[Daevid Vincent]

I'm considering getting this MailHop Outbound service, however one of the
restrictions they have is in this FAQ:

http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/faq.html#q114
Q: What is the maximum number of recipients in a message sent via MailHop
Outbound?
A: You may specify at most 100 recipients per message. If you need to send a
message to more than 100 recipients, you will need to split it into blocks
of 100 or less. This restriction is necessary to deter spammers.

I run a 'mailman v2.1.5' list for club events happening around town. I have
around 150 people on the list. Will this work? Does mailman send out one
message at a time, or will I be limited to this restriction above?

Daevid.

P.S. if anyone can suggest a way to get out of RBL hell, I am all ears. I
run Gentoo and Exim 4.54 on my home cable modem. I'm getting increasingly
frustrated with this RBL shit. Many ISPs (AOL, earthlink, etc.) are blocking
mail from my domain simply because I happen to be on a Comcast (Seattle, WA)
dynamic IP.

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