Re: [Mailman-Users] Everything stopped yesterday

2002-07-13 Thread G. Armour Van Horn

No, that didn't occur to me. I don't think it's a likely factor, as the
damaged message that actually caused the shutdown was several hours
earlier than the upgrade. The problem started filling up the error log at
08:52, and though the clock on the system was a few minutes off, I didn't
roll out of bed until nearly 11:00 am and probably didn't actually run the
upgrade until shortly after noon.

I am, at this point, absolutely certain that the upgrade was not a factor
in the shutdown of list messagse.

Van

Jim Popovitch wrote:

> Very Interesting Did you stop your inbound MTA before you did the
> upgrade to 2.0.12?
>
> -Jim P.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: G. Armour Van Horn
> > Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 4:35 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Everything stopped yesterday
> >
> >
> > Andy,
> >
> > For me it turned out not to be the case at all. After hours of
> > hair-pulling
> > I found that the oldest message in
> > /home/mailman/qfiles/
> > was truncated. Deleting that one message opened the floodgates.
> >
> > I've left the error entry in the original message below. It was the
> > "'string' object has no attribute 'lower'" that finally caused me to
> > look at
> > the earliest affected message.
> >
> > Van
> >
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RE: [Mailman-Users] Everything stopped yesterday

2002-07-13 Thread Jim Popovitch

Very Interesting Did you stop your inbound MTA before you did the
upgrade to 2.0.12?

-Jim P.

> -Original Message-
> From: G. Armour Van Horn
> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 4:35 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Everything stopped yesterday
>
>
> Andy,
>
> For me it turned out not to be the case at all. After hours of
> hair-pulling
> I found that the oldest message in
> /home/mailman/qfiles/
> was truncated. Deleting that one message opened the floodgates.
>
> I've left the error entry in the original message below. It was the
> "'string' object has no attribute 'lower'" that finally caused me to
> look at
> the earliest affected message.
>
> Van
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Everything stopped yesterday

2002-07-13 Thread G. Armour Van Horn

Andy,

For me it turned out not to be the case at all. After hours of
hair-pulling
I found that the oldest message in
/home/mailman/qfiles/
was truncated. Deleting that one message opened the floodgates.

I've left the error entry in the original message below. It was the
"'string' object has no attribute 'lower'" that finally caused me to
look at
the earliest affected message.

Van

Andy Firman wrote:

> Same thing happened to me.
> Roll back to 2.0.11 and it will work fine.
> Must be a bug in 2.0.12
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andrew Firman
>
> 907-357-3699 (office)
> 907-841-6498 (mobile)
> 509-695-7043 (fax)
> www.firmanconsulting.com
>
> -Excerpt from Original Message-
>
> Every one minute I am now getting the following in
> /home/mailman/logs/error:
> Jul 12 23:41:21 2002 qrunner(1355): Traceback (innermost last):
> Jul 12 23:41:21 2002 qrunner(1355):   File
"/home/mailman/cron/qrunner",
>
> line 283, in ?
> Jul 12 23:41:21 2002 qrunner(1355):  kids = main(lock)
> Jul 12 23:41:21 2002 qrunner(1355):   File
"/home/mailman/cron/qrunner",
>
> line 253, in main
> Jul 12 23:41:21 2002 qrunner(1355):  keepqueued =
> dispose_message(mlist, msg, msgdata)
> Jul 12 23:41:21 2002 qrunner(1355):   File
"/home/mailman/cron/qrunner",
>
> line 157, in dispose_message
> Jul 12 23:41:21 2002 qrunner(1355):  mlist.ParseMailCommands(msg)
> Jul 12 23:41:21 2002 qrunner(1355):   File
> "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py", line 123, in
> ParseMailCommands
> Jul 12 23:41:21 2002 qrunner(1355):  precedence =
> msg.get('precedence', '').lower()
> Jul 12 23:41:21 2002 qrunner(1355): AttributeError :  'string' object
> has no attribute 'lower'
>

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[Mailman-Users] Everything stopped yesterday

2002-07-13 Thread G. Armour Van Horn

Greetings:

I was on something of a maintenance tear this week, so when I got
Barry's announcement of 2.0.12 I decided it was time to catch up. I've
been running Mailman since 2.0.1, and had been running 2.0.8 from the
week it was released until this morning. I fetched the four patch files,

all of them patched without error. the reconfig and make install both
ran without any indication of problem.

So what could I have been missing? Not a single message has been sent
out by the server since the upgrade, as far as I can tell. My largest
list, with 450 members, had seven messages due for digesting this noon,
and the digest log indicates that they were properly handled, and the
digest is still in /home/mailman/qfiles.

Every one minute I am now getting the following in
/home/mailman/logs/error:
Jul 12 23:41:21 2002 qrunner(1355): Traceback (innermost last):
Jul 12 23:41:21 2002 qrunner(1355):   File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner",

line 283, in ?
Jul 12 23:41:21 2002 qrunner(1355):  kids = main(lock)
Jul 12 23:41:21 2002 qrunner(1355):   File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner",

line 253, in main
Jul 12 23:41:21 2002 qrunner(1355):  keepqueued =
dispose_message(mlist, msg, msgdata)
Jul 12 23:41:21 2002 qrunner(1355):   File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner",

line 157, in dispose_message
Jul 12 23:41:21 2002 qrunner(1355):  mlist.ParseMailCommands(msg)
Jul 12 23:41:21 2002 qrunner(1355):   File
"/home/mailman/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py", line 123, in
ParseMailCommands
Jul 12 23:41:21 2002 qrunner(1355):  precedence =
msg.get('precedence', '').lower()
Jul 12 23:41:21 2002 qrunner(1355): AttributeError :  'string' object
has no attribute 'lower'

Interestingly, this started at 08:52 Friday morning, a time that I
guarantee does not coincide with the upgrade, which would have been
closer to noon. My error log is now 1.4 MB in size, I doubt if more than

10KB of that is from before today. The first entry is from Jan 15 2001,
and it only takes a couple of screens to get down to Friday morning.

This server does almost nothing other than Mailman, I think there is one

very quiet website other than the mailman pages.

The OS is RedHat Linux 6.1.

Python is at 1.5.2

Mailserver is Postfix, /usr/src suggest that it's 20001212, since
discovering the problem I upgraded to 1.1.10 with no change. I can send
mail to a test user on the machine without problem. Whe I signed up for
one of my test lists, Mailman was able to send the new-member greeting.

CPU is AMD K6/233 - it's one of the first half-dozen demonstration
systems that AMD sent to reviewers when they first were promoting
the K6. 64MB RAM.

No partition is more than 30% full, so I'm not running out of disk.

I downloaded the complete tarball, deleted the old mailman /usr/src
directories, and started over with the 2.0.12 tarball - again, no
errors, no outgoing list mail.

I have 17 lists running, all happily for a year and a half. Any
suggestions? What other stuff can I look for?

Van

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