Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer question...

2008-12-05 Thread Greg and Cheryl Sabens
Thank you, Mark S and Brad K.

It certainly helps to know the correct terms and words to search.  Sorry for 
repeating a question that probably gets repeated quite a bit.  I doubt I would 
have ever been able to find the answer.  I didn't even know what 'munging' was 
or what it meant so I certainly wouldn't have searched using it.

Thanks again!

Greg





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Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer question...

Greg and Cheryl Sabens wrote:

Question #1
So, I'm unclear about something concerning footers (mainly on the Non-digest 
options).  It appears that whenever I create a footer, something (whether it's 
mailman or Yahoo!) is adding the following line:

-Inline Attachment Follows-

Can someone tell me where this is originating from.  Sometime is looks like it 
from Mailman, but I have confirmed that it's not part of the footer that I 
created.  But sometimes it seems to be in Yahoo! because when I receive the 
same email in Outlook and that text is not there.


It occurs because of the answer to Question #2, but it is the specific
mail client (Yahoo) that is displaying the footer in this way.


Question #2
Even beyond that, no matter which mail program/service I use (Yahoo! or 
Outlook), what footer I do create is attached to the email as an attachment.  
Again, I don't know what is causing that; 1) is Mailman sending it that way, 
or 2) are the mail programs/services forcing the footer (which does show up in 
the email body) to also be attached?


Mailman is doing it because the MIME structure of the incoming message
does not allow simply adding the footer to the 'body' of the mail.


I'd like to have a footer in the body of the email coming through my maillist, 
but I'd rally rather not have the -Inline Attachment Follows- text 
in the body or the footer included as an attachment to the email.

Again, sorry if this is repetitive, but I couldn't find any thread or faq that 
spoke specifically to these questions...only close to it.


The FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/84A9 speaks exactly to this
question (Question #2). In order for Mailman to add a footer and add
it to the message 'body', the incoming post must be a simple
text/plain message, not HTML or multipart/alternative or you must set
content filtering to make it so.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer question...

2008-12-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
Greg and Cheryl Sabens wrote:

It certainly helps to know the correct terms and words to search.  Sorry for 
repeating a question that probably gets repeated quite a bit.  I doubt I would 
have ever been able to find the answer.  I didn't even know what 'munging' was 
or what it meant so I certainly wouldn't have searched using it.


But what did you search for? Searching the FAQ for footer gives 20 hits
and you might well miss the 4.39 entry, but searching for the two
words footer attachment gives 5 hits and the top excerpt shown is:

[4.39 Mailman is munging HTML  MIME-formatted messages before they are
sent out? (problems with Mailman 2.1.x footers)]  4.39 Mailman is
munging HTML  MIME-formatted messages before they are sent out?
(problems with Mailman 2.1.x footers)  (Documentation)
... Mailman 2.1.x footers) a.k.a., Why are footers (or message bodies)
being shown as attachments to HTMLformatted messages? For Mailman
2.0.x, see also 4.05 Why don't the footers ... some list messages?
(Mailman 2.0.x). The problem is that there is no generalpurpose method
of determining where a ...
Jul 31, 2008 

I ask because we would always like to improve the searchability of the
FAQ, and if there's something we can add to this to make it easier for
you to find, we'd like to do it.

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[Mailman-Users] Footer question...

2008-12-04 Thread Greg and Cheryl Sabens
I apologize in advance because I'm sure my questions below have been discussed 
over and over.  I have search through Google and the Mailman FAQ and the 
archives.  I see questions and answers that almost answer these questions of 
mine but just not quite.

Question #1
So, I'm unclear about something concerning footers (mainly on the Non-digest 
options).  It appears that whenever I create a footer, something (whether it's 
mailman or Yahoo!) is adding the following line:

-Inline Attachment Follows-

Can someone tell me where this is originating from.  Sometime is looks like it 
from Mailman, but I have confirmed that it's not part of the footer that I 
created.  But sometimes it seems to be in Yahoo! because when I receive the 
same email in Outlook and that text is not there.


Question #2
Even beyond that, no matter which mail program/service I use (Yahoo! or 
Outlook), what footer I do create is attached to the email as an attachment.  
Again, I don't know what is causing that; 1) is Mailman sending it that way, or 
2) are the mail programs/services forcing the footer (which does show up in the 
email body) to also be attached?


I'd like to have a footer in the body of the email coming through my maillist, 
but I'd rally rather not have the -Inline Attachment Follows- text in 
the body or the footer included as an attachment to the email.

Again, sorry if this is repetitive, but I couldn't find any thread or faq that 
spoke specifically to these questions...only close to it.

Thank you in advance!
Greg
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer question...

2008-12-04 Thread Brad Knowles

Greg and Cheryl Sabens wrote:


Can someone tell me where this is originating from.  Sometime is looks
like it from Mailman, but I have confirmed that it's not part of the
footer that I created.  But sometimes it seems to be in Yahoo! because
when I receive the same email in Outlook and that text is not there.


This is created because the original message is in HTML, and when Mailman 
adds the footer it's added as a separate ASCII text portion of the message.


All of this is explained in FAQ 4.39 at http://wiki.list.org/x/84A9.


Again, sorry if this is repetitive, but I couldn't find any thread or faq
that spoke specifically to these questions...only close to it.


If you search for footer, you'll come up with several hits, and 4.39 
should be close to the top of that list.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer question...

2008-12-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
Greg and Cheryl Sabens wrote:

Question #1
So, I'm unclear about something concerning footers (mainly on the Non-digest 
options).  It appears that whenever I create a footer, something (whether it's 
mailman or Yahoo!) is adding the following line:

-Inline Attachment Follows-

Can someone tell me where this is originating from.  Sometime is looks like it 
from Mailman, but I have confirmed that it's not part of the footer that I 
created.  But sometimes it seems to be in Yahoo! because when I receive the 
same email in Outlook and that text is not there.


It occurs because of the answer to Question #2, but it is the specific
mail client (Yahoo) that is displaying the footer in this way.


Question #2
Even beyond that, no matter which mail program/service I use (Yahoo! or 
Outlook), what footer I do create is attached to the email as an attachment.  
Again, I don't know what is causing that; 1) is Mailman sending it that way, 
or 2) are the mail programs/services forcing the footer (which does show up in 
the email body) to also be attached?


Mailman is doing it because the MIME structure of the incoming message
does not allow simply adding the footer to the 'body' of the mail.


I'd like to have a footer in the body of the email coming through my maillist, 
but I'd rally rather not have the -Inline Attachment Follows- text 
in the body or the footer included as an attachment to the email.

Again, sorry if this is repetitive, but I couldn't find any thread or faq that 
spoke specifically to these questions...only close to it.


The FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/84A9 speaks exactly to this
question (Question #2). In order for Mailman to add a footer and add
it to the message 'body', the incoming post must be a simple
text/plain message, not HTML or multipart/alternative or you must set
content filtering to make it so.

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[Mailman-Users] Footer Question

2008-02-19 Thread Bruce Clark
Hi All,

Apologies if this is a bit simple; I have looked through the FAQ...

I have a bit of footer text which I put in msg_footer (digest and non
digest).

Some people can see it, but some people cannot. Those that cannot see it,
get a small file as an attachment (ATT).

Am I doing something wrong, or would this be specific  to a mail client?

Thanks,

Bruce.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer Question

2008-02-19 Thread Barry Finkel

Hi All,

Apologies if this is a bit simple; I have looked through the FAQ...

I have a bit of footer text which I put in msg_footer (digest and non
digest).

Some people can see it, but some people cannot. Those that cannot see it,
get a small file as an attachment (ATT).

Am I doing something wrong, or would this be specific  to a mail client?

Thanks,

Bruce.

Maybe this FAQ:

 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.039.htp

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[Mailman-Users] Footer question

2003-11-21 Thread aaron
I'll try this one more time - would appreciate any guidance

Hello.

I need to append a footer (w/unsubscribe info) to all Mailman messages
going out from my server. I need to do this in a way so that it is not
possible for list admins to modify the footer. Does anyone have any
suggestions?

I searched the list archives and found something about using
Decorate.py, to do this, but I have been unable to figure out how to
make this work.

I'm using Mailman 2.1.3 with Python 2.1.3. on FreeBSD.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Aaron


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