[Mailman-Users] Footers as Attachments

2023-09-07 Thread David Andrews
Some of my users have complained about getting an attachment with 
each message. The attachment seems to be the footer fort the list. It 
also looks like this may be an Outlook thing. Is this true? Is there 
anything to be done to change it.


I would guess that changing to text-only messages would do it, but 
that isn't necessarily a popular option either.


Dave

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[Mailman-Users] Footers As Attachments

2010-03-12 Thread Zone Page
I've been using Mailman for a long time for several small lists that I
maintain. There are two configuration issues that I still do not
understand. First, messages sent to participants have the footer as an
attachment. The only way I could get rid of the attachment was to delete
the footer text. The messages on this list have the footer, and it is
not showing up as an attachment, so I am doing something wrong.

The other question has to do with bounce processing. When I load a new
list of email addresses, how can I check for bad ones other than wait
until there are enough bounces within a period of time to unsubscribe?
It would be very helpful to be able to designate an email address to
which ALL bounces are sent. Can that be done?

Thanks!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Footers As Attachments

2010-03-12 Thread Mark Sapiro
Zone Page wrote:

I've been using Mailman for a long time for several small lists that I
maintain. There are two configuration issues that I still do not
understand. First, messages sent to participants have the footer as an
attachment. The only way I could get rid of the attachment was to delete
the footer text. The messages on this list have the footer, and it is
not showing up as an attachment, so I am doing something wrong.


See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/84A9

The footers are not (usually) separate MIME parts on this list because
people tend to post plain text, and this list uses Mailman's content
filtering to remove non plain text parts from posts so the footers can
be added to the simple plain text message body.


The other question has to do with bounce processing. When I load a new
list of email addresses, how can I check for bad ones other than wait
until there are enough bounces within a period of time to unsubscribe?
It would be very helpful to be able to designate an email address to
which ALL bounces are sent. Can that be done?


When you load a new list of email addresses, invite the list rather
than subscribing it. Problem solved.

There already is an address to which all bounces are sent. It is
listname-boun...@... If you have control over the MTA that delivers
this mail, you can deliver it anywhere you want. You can also set the
bounce processing threshold score to 1 to disable delivery and notify
the admin upon the first bounce.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Footers As Attachments

2010-03-12 Thread Zone Page
On 3/12/2010 11:01 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
 Zone Page wrote:
 I've been using Mailman for a long time for several small lists that I
 maintain. There are two configuration issues that I still do not
 understand. First, messages sent to participants have the footer as an
 attachment. The only way I could get rid of the attachment was to delete
 the footer text. The messages on this list have the footer, and it is
 not showing up as an attachment, so I am doing something wrong.
 See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/84A9
   

I already read that article, but it's over my head.

 The footers are not (usually) separate MIME parts on this list because
 people tend to post plain text, and this list uses Mailman's content
 filtering to remove non plain text parts from posts so the footers can
 be added to the simple plain text message body.

Is that Option 2?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Footers As Attachments

2010-03-12 Thread Mark Sapiro
Zone Page wrote:

On 3/12/2010 11:01 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

 The footers are not (usually) separate MIME parts on this list because
 people tend to post plain text, and this list uses Mailman's content
 filtering to remove non plain text parts from posts so the footers can
 be added to the simple plain text message body.

Is that Option 2?


Yes, that's option 2.

Note, if your list is an announcement type of list, and you want to
post HTML (rich text), you can always remove the list's msg_footer and
just include the equivalent at the bottom of your posts.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Footers As Attachments

2010-03-12 Thread Zone Page
On 3/12/2010 1:07 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
 Zone Page wrote:
   
 On 3/12/2010 11:01 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

 
 The footers are not (usually) separate MIME parts on this list because
 people tend to post plain text, and this list uses Mailman's content
 filtering to remove non plain text parts from posts so the footers can
 be added to the simple plain text message body.
   
 Is that Option 2?
 
 Yes, that's option 2.

 Note, if your list is an announcement type of list, and you want to
 post HTML (rich text), you can always remove the list's msg_footer and
 just include the equivalent at the bottom of your posts.
   

The page says, Choosing option #2 from the above list is quite a bit
more difficult to configure than you may think it is. Even if you can
get the system to do this, the result would most likely be quite a bit
more drastic than you think. So, how do I configure my list this way?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Footers As Attachments

2010-03-12 Thread Mark Sapiro
Zone Page wrote:

The page says, Choosing option #2 from the above list is quite a bit
more difficult to configure than you may think it is. Even if you can
get the system to do this, the result would most likely be quite a bit
more drastic than you think. So, how do I configure my list this way?

Here's one suggestion.

filter_content: Yes

filter_mime_types: empty

pass_mime_types:
  multipart
  message/rfc822
  text/plain
  text/html

filter_filename_extensions: default (it doesn't matter much with the
   above in pass_mime_types)

pass_filename_extensions: empty

collapse_alternatives: Yes

convert_html_to_plaintext: Yes

This will ensure only plain text is delivered to the list and will
accept essentially all text/plain parts of a message and in addition
will accept HTML that is not a multipart/alternative sub-part and use
an external command (defaults to lynx) to convert the HTML to plain
text.

It will break or remove signatures from some signed mail.

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