Re: [Mailman-Users] Fw: can't get replies back from list mailing...
Dr. Scott S. Jones wrote: > >My MTA, exim4, does seem to get the mail out, but can't get it back in to >the right place. Obviously, I run Mutt and it works fine, in both >directions, just not in feeding the email to the various MM lists on my >system. I'm still not clear on one point. I understand that when an outside user mails to (e.g.) [EMAIL PROTECTED], the mail is rejected by Exim. What I am not clear on is what happens when you, using Mutt on the local host, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does that mail get piped to Mailman and delivered to the list, or do you get your mail to Mailman in another way, and if so, how? In any case, this is still an Exim configuration problem. If you are mailing to a list (e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and it works, then there is some difference in the way Exim is treating mail originating locally, vs. mail originating outside. If you post in another way, then Exim just isn't set up properly for your mailman configuration. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.019.htp for pointers to Exim configuration information. (Your other questions were addressed in Jim's reply in this thread.) -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Fw: can't get replies back from list mailing...
On Oct 12, 2005, at 14:25, Dr. Scott S. Jones wrote: > My MTA, exim4, does seem to get the mail out, but can't get it back > in to > the right place. Obviously, I run Mutt and it works fine, in both > directions, just not in feeding the email to the various MM lists > on my > system. If the problem is with mail to aliases other than the bare listname, double check the local_part_suffixes in your Mailman router in your Exim configuration. > I notice that in some of my lists, I click on the Archives, and see > messages > from several months back, while with others, for example, newer > lists, there > is no archive, but instead this error message: > > Not Found Is the difference between those lists with public and private archives? (If so, and it is the public archives that are missing, make sure you have your web server configured to have the option FollowSymLinks, at least for your mailman/archives/public tree.) > I read the archives at the mailman site at times, and notice the > site is > magically able to list communications 20 years into the future, a > la ... > > April 2024: > June 2013: > > Any idea how those folks at Mailman can see so far into the future? > I'd bet By changing ARCHIVER_CLOBBER_DATE_POLICY in your mm_cfg.py you can avoid relying on the user supplied Date:. Setting it to '2' allows only munging the date if it is outside the limits defined by the ARCHIVER_ALLOWABLE_SANE_DATE_SKEW variable. (See the documentation in your Defaults.py file.) -- Jim Tittsler http://www.OnJapan.net/ GPG: 0x01159DB6 Python Starship http://Starship.Python.net/crew/jwt/ Mailman IRC irc://irc.freenode.net/#mailman -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Fw: can't get replies back from list mailing...
Mark > Then I don't know why your post had no content other than a "-- " line, > but it did have a "X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6" > indicating that there was a non text/plain part removed. > > Both the original message and the message to which I'm replying > indicate "User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i" and the latter message is a single > text/plain part, so I can't explain what happened with the original. I am not too worried about the content issue for now. It's on the back burner for now. > There is some issue with the configuration of the incoming MTA. If you > are saying you can post to the list by mailing to [EMAIL PROTECTED], > then presumably you have something (aliases) in the MTA that can pipe > this address to Mailman, but it seems that perhaps whatever it is only > works for mail originating from the localhost and not from outside. > > If you create the test59 user, then presumably the mail is delivered to > that users mailbox, but that doesn't get it to Mailman. My MTA, exim4, does seem to get the mail out, but can't get it back in to the right place. Obviously, I run Mutt and it works fine, in both directions, just not in feeding the email to the various MM lists on my system. > Comments at the front of Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py give a rough > idea of the flow of messages through Mailman. In addition to what's > there, are the facts that a message to be sent out from Mailman is > delivered via SMTP to the outgoing MTA and then by the MTA to the > recipients. A reply back to the list is received by the incoming MTA > and piped to the mail wrapper with the appropriate action and listname > arguments. It is this last bit that apparently isn't working in your > case, at least for mail originating outside localhost. I checked the IncomingRunner.py to get a better idea. It's helpful, but still leaves me in the dark as to why my messages with MM are getting mistreated. I notice that in some of my lists, I click on the Archives, and see messages from several months back, while with others, for example, newer lists, there is no archive, but instead this error message: Not Found The requested URL /pipermail/bonez/ was not found on this server. Apache/2.0.54 (Debian GNU/Linux) mod_python/3.1.3 Python/2.3.5 PHP/4.3.10-16 mod_perl/1.999.21 Perl/v5.8.4 Server at fyrenice.com Port 80 Does this suggestion I have troubles just with this 'bonez' list or with pipermail installation as well? With an older list, that I have used more, the archives open up and list several months. which leads to one final question. I read the archives at the mailman site at times, and notice the site is magically able to list communications 20 years into the future, a la ... April 2024: June 2013: Any idea how those folks at Mailman can see so far into the future? I'd bet they are working on the side for a few stock brokers...or for Madam LaRue, the local Psychic! Scott -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Fw: can't get replies back from list mailing...
Dr. Scott S. Jones wrote: > >When I posted my question to the list, I opened mutt, typed in my questions >and hit y to send it offI didn't send from any GUI mail client..just >mutt, composing my message with vim. Then I don't know why your post had no content other than a "-- " line, but it did have a "X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6" indicating that there was a non text/plain part removed. Both the original message and the message to which I'm replying indicate "User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i" and the latter message is a single text/plain part, so I can't explain what happened with the original. >Here's what I had posted: > >I have Mailman version 2.1.5 on my debian 3.1 system. > >I can mail OUT to list members, but if they attempt to reply back to the >list, or to the administrator, they (I included myself here) get an error >message telling that the address is untraceable or unroutable, i.e., that th >name of the list, for example [EMAIL PROTECTED] is unroutable. > >If I manually run 'adduser test59' to create a 'user' on my system with that >name, then that error is eliminated, but I still do not get any incoming >list email upon replies to list mailing. There is some issue with the configuration of the incoming MTA. If you are saying you can post to the list by mailing to [EMAIL PROTECTED], then presumably you have something (aliases) in the MTA that can pipe this address to Mailman, but it seems that perhaps whatever it is only works for mail originating from the localhost and not from outside. If you create the test59 user, then presumably the mail is delivered to that users mailbox, but that doesn't get it to Mailman. >Does any reference exist that tells the pathway of a message from send to >receive and then from Reply on recipient's end back to the mailman machine >serving this all up? Comments at the front of Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py give a rough idea of the flow of messages through Mailman. In addition to what's there, are the facts that a message to be sent out from Mailman is delivered via SMTP to the outgoing MTA and then by the MTA to the recipients. A reply back to the list is received by the incoming MTA and piped to the mail wrapper with the appropriate action and listname arguments. It is this last bit that apparently isn't working in your case, at least for mail originating outside localhost. -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Fw: can't get replies back from list mailing...
Dr. Scott S. Jones wrote: > >-- I can only guess what your issue is since the bulk of your post was stripped by content filtering, but perhaps that is the answer. Try posting plain text only. -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Fw: can't get replies back from list mailing...
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