Re: [Mailman-Users] Group mismatch ( YES I KNOW THIS IS A FAQ BUT..)
Thanks Geoff
You really got me on the track and pointed out what is was mixing.
Really confusing with all this information :-)
I did as you suggested:
recompiled with:
./configure --with-username=list --with-groupname=list
--with-mail-gid=list --with-cgi-gid=www-data
and removed the transport.
Thats it - thanks.
regards
Peter
Fra: Geoff Shang [ge...@quitelikely.com]
Sendt: 10. juni 2011 20:59
Til: Peter Sørensen
Cc: mailman-users@python.org
Emne: Re: [Mailman-Users] Group mismatch ( YES I KNOW THIS IS A FAQ BUT..)
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Peter Sørensen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I know this is a FAQ and yes I've tried to read all items and still I can't
> find my way out so hope someone
> Can shed some light to this.
Actualy, it's probably several.
> Just summarizing what I am about to do. I have an old mailman installation I
> need to port to a new server.
> The old one is based on EXIM as MTA but I would like to use postfix, because
> this is the one I use on a lot of servers.
> I need to make mailman virtual. I have around 20 mail domains to handle.
>
> So I install a Ubuntu 10.04LTS 64 bit and get the packages for postfix
> apache2 and mailman and install
> No problem.
>
> When trying to make the virtual postfix/mailman integration, I ran across a
> post recommending to use mailman 2.1.14
> Ok - I removed the mailman package from Ubuntu , actually 2.1.13 - downloaded
> the 2.1.14 source
> Ran configure, make and make install all seems OK.
It's because of the very sort of permission problems you hit that I don't
generally do this. Unless you really need to run Mailman 2.1.14, 2.1.13
should be plenty fine enough. One server I help administer still runs
Debian Lenny with Mailman 2.1.11 and again works fine for me.
However, I did have to hand-compile Mailman on a Ubuntu system for work (I
no longer have access to this box) because I needed to have multiple
installs for separate domains. I made some notes. See below.
> I have added following to mm_cfg.py
>
> ##
> MTA = "Postfix"
> # Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line.
> POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = [ 'test.sdu.dk',
>'some.other.domain',
> ..
>
> add_virtualhost('test.sdu.dk','test.sdu.dk'
> add_virtualhost('some.other.domain','some.other.domain')
>
> called check_perms -f
> called genaliases
> and checked that i have the files :
> my@mls2:/usr/local/mailman$ ll data/alia*
> -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 114222 2011-06-10 09:04 data/aliases
> -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 172032 2011-06-10 09:04 data/aliases.db
> my@mls2:/usr/local/mailman$ ll data/virt*
> -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 86149 2011-06-10 09:04 data/virtual-mailman
> -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 176128 2011-06-10 09:04 data/virtual-mailman.db
>
> Added to postfix main.cf:
> transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport
> alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases
> alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases
You don't need this, and in fact if I recall correctly, it's bad to have
this.
> virtual_alias_maps = hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman
You don't have any other virtual alias domains?
> mailman_destination_recipient_limit = 1
I've never seen this one before.
> AND in transport i have entries like:
> test.sdu.dk mailman:
> some.other.domain mailman:
You're mixing up methods here.
You can set up Mailman+Postfix in one of two ways, using virtual alias
domains or using a Mailman-specific domain (e.g. lists.example.com) and
using a transport. You seem to have employed both here which is not
necessary, and by definition only one will ever work.
I've never used the transport option and consider it unnecessary, but it
may be simpler for someone who is using a subdomain specifically for lists
and no other Email.
Not sure which documentation you're using, but I recommend the official
installation guide, specifically the section on Postfix. It's a little
confusing but Email administration is a confusing business.
http://list.org/./mailman-install/node12.html
> Then when trying to send a mail to a new list I get the following in mail.log
>
> Jun 10 08:44:22 mls2 Mailman mail-wrapper: Group mismatch error. Mailman
> expected the mail#012wrapper script to be executed as group "mailman",
> but#012the system's mail server executed the mail script as#012group
> "nogroup". Try tweaking the mail server to run the#012script as group
> "mailman", or re-run configure, #012providing the comma
Re: [Mailman-Users] Group mismatch ( YES I KNOW THIS IS A FAQ BUT..)
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Peter Sørensen wrote:
Hi,
I know this is a FAQ and yes I've tried to read all items and still I can't
find my way out so hope someone
Can shed some light to this.
Actualy, it's probably several.
Just summarizing what I am about to do. I have an old mailman installation I
need to port to a new server.
The old one is based on EXIM as MTA but I would like to use postfix, because
this is the one I use on a lot of servers.
I need to make mailman virtual. I have around 20 mail domains to handle.
So I install a Ubuntu 10.04LTS 64 bit and get the packages for postfix apache2
and mailman and install
No problem.
When trying to make the virtual postfix/mailman integration, I ran across a
post recommending to use mailman 2.1.14
Ok - I removed the mailman package from Ubuntu , actually 2.1.13 - downloaded
the 2.1.14 source
Ran configure, make and make install all seems OK.
It's because of the very sort of permission problems you hit that I don't
generally do this. Unless you really need to run Mailman 2.1.14, 2.1.13
should be plenty fine enough. One server I help administer still runs
Debian Lenny with Mailman 2.1.11 and again works fine for me.
However, I did have to hand-compile Mailman on a Ubuntu system for work (I
no longer have access to this box) because I needed to have multiple
installs for separate domains. I made some notes. See below.
I have added following to mm_cfg.py
##
MTA = "Postfix"
# Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line.
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = [ 'test.sdu.dk',
'some.other.domain',
..
add_virtualhost('test.sdu.dk','test.sdu.dk'
add_virtualhost('some.other.domain','some.other.domain')
called check_perms -f
called genaliases
and checked that i have the files :
my@mls2:/usr/local/mailman$ ll data/alia*
-rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 114222 2011-06-10 09:04 data/aliases
-rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 172032 2011-06-10 09:04 data/aliases.db
my@mls2:/usr/local/mailman$ ll data/virt*
-rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 86149 2011-06-10 09:04 data/virtual-mailman
-rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 176128 2011-06-10 09:04 data/virtual-mailman.db
Added to postfix main.cf:
transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport
alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases
alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases
You don't need this, and in fact if I recall correctly, it's bad to have
this.
virtual_alias_maps = hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman
You don't have any other virtual alias domains?
mailman_destination_recipient_limit = 1
I've never seen this one before.
AND in transport i have entries like:
test.sdu.dk mailman:
some.other.domain mailman:
You're mixing up methods here.
You can set up Mailman+Postfix in one of two ways, using virtual alias
domains or using a Mailman-specific domain (e.g. lists.example.com) and
using a transport. You seem to have employed both here which is not
necessary, and by definition only one will ever work.
I've never used the transport option and consider it unnecessary, but it
may be simpler for someone who is using a subdomain specifically for lists
and no other Email.
Not sure which documentation you're using, but I recommend the official
installation guide, specifically the section on Postfix. It's a little
confusing but Email administration is a confusing business.
http://list.org/./mailman-install/node12.html
Then when trying to send a mail to a new list I get the following in mail.log
Jun 10 08:44:22 mls2 Mailman mail-wrapper: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail#012wrapper script
to be executed as group "mailman", but#012the system's mail server executed the mail script
as#012group "nogroup". Try tweaking the mail server to run the#012script as group
"mailman", or re-run configure, #012providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=nogroup'.
Jun 10 08:44:22 mls2 postfix/local[28200]: 3E460FFDF2: to=, relay=local, delay=0.03,
delays=0.01/0/0/0.02, dsn=5.3.0, status=bounced (Command died with status 2: "/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces
mailman". Command output: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group
"mailman", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group "nogroup". Try tweaking the
mail server to run the script as group "mailman", or re-run configure, providing the command line option
`--with-mail-gid=nogroup'. )
OK I go to the mailman source and recompile as suggested and get
Jun 10 07:28:29 mls2 Mailman mail-wrapper: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail#012wrapper script
to be executed as group "nogroup", but#012the system's mail server executed the mail script
as#012group "mailman". Try tweaking the mail server to run the#012script as group
"nogroup", or re-run configure, #012pr
Re: [Mailman-Users] Group mismatch ( YES I KNOW THIS IS A FAQ BUT..)
On 6/10/2011 2:28 AM, Peter Sørensen wrote:
>
> When trying to make the virtual postfix/mailman integration, I ran across a
> post recommending to use mailman 2.1.14
> Ok - I removed the mailman package from Ubuntu , actually 2.1.13 - downloaded
> the 2.1.14 source
> Ran configure, make and make install all seems OK.
And you have conflated your Debian/Ubuntu package configuration and the
standard GNU Mailman configuration.
> I have added following to mm_cfg.py
>
> ##
> MTA = "Postfix"
> # Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line.
> POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = [ 'test.sdu.dk',
> 'some.other.domain',
>..
>
> add_virtualhost('test.sdu.dk','test.sdu.dk'
> add_virtualhost('some.other.domain','some.other.domain')
OK
> called check_perms -f
> called genaliases
> and checked that i have the files :
> my@mls2:/usr/local/mailman$ ll data/alia*
> -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 114222 2011-06-10 09:04 data/aliases
> -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 172032 2011-06-10 09:04 data/aliases.db
> my@mls2:/usr/local/mailman$ ll data/virt*
> -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 86149 2011-06-10 09:04 data/virtual-mailman
> -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 176128 2011-06-10 09:04 data/virtual-mailman.db
OK
> Added to postfix main.cf:
> transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport
See below:
> alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases
> alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases
You don't need hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases in alias_database.
This only makes Postfix's newaliases command do extra work. See
.
> virtual_alias_maps = hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman
> mailman_destination_recipient_limit = 1
The above, the transport maps entries below, and the mailman transport
in master.cf are for postfix-to-mailman.py delivery which is an
incompatible alternative to delivery vfia aliases and virtual maps.
> AND in transport i have entries like:
> test.sdu.dk mailman:
> some.other.domain mailman:
>
>
> Then when trying to send a mail to a new list I get the following in mail.log
>
> Jun 10 08:44:22 mls2 Mailman mail-wrapper: Group mismatch error. Mailman
> expected the mail#012wrapper script to be executed as group "mailman",
> but#012the system's mail server executed the mail script as#012group
> "nogroup". Try tweaking the mail server to run the#012script as group
> "mailman", or re-run configure, #012providing the command line option
> `--with-mail-gid=nogroup'.
> Jun 10 08:44:22 mls2 postfix/local[28200]: 3E460FFDF2:
> to=, relay=local, delay=0.03,
> delays=0.01/0/0/0.02, dsn=5.3.0, status=bounced (Command died with status 2:
> "/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman". Command output: Group
> mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as
> group "mailman", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as
> group "nogroup". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group
> "mailman", or re-run configure, providing the command line option
> `--with-mail-gid=nogroup'. )
This looks like a delivery via aliases which should work if the
ownership of data/aliases.db is as above.
> OK I go to the mailman source and recompile as suggested and get
>
> Jun 10 07:28:29 mls2 Mailman mail-wrapper: Group mismatch error. Mailman
> expected the mail#012wrapper script to be executed as group "nogroup",
> but#012the system's mail server executed the mail script as#012group
> "mailman". Try tweaking the mail server to run the#012script as group
> "nogroup", or re-run configure, #012providing the command line option
> `--with-mail-gid=mailman'.
> Jun 10 07:28:29 mls2 postfix/local[22760]: 711C8FFD9D: to=,
> orig_to=, relay=local, delay=14, delays=14/0.02/0/0.03,
> dsn=5.3.0, status=bounced (Command died with status 2:
> "/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post its". Command output: Group mismatch
> error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group
> "nogroup", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group
> "mailman". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group
> "nogroup", or re-run configure, providing the command line option
> `--with-mail-gid=mailman'. )
And Postfix invoking the wrapper as group 'mailman' is what should have
happened above.
Now you should reconfigure with --with-mail-gid=mailman and try again.
I'm guessing that for the first try above when Postfix invoked the
wrapper as 'nogroup', the owner of data/aliases.db was root, and somehow
in the re-configure/install process, it got changed to 'mailman' which
is what it should be.
> Permissions on mailman wrapper are:
> ll /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman
> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 23741 2011-06-10 07:30
> /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman*
>
> Pos
[Mailman-Users] Group mismatch ( YES I KNOW THIS IS A FAQ BUT..)
Hi,
I know this is a FAQ and yes I've tried to read all items and still I can't
find my way out so hope someone
Can shed some light to this.
Just summarizing what I am about to do. I have an old mailman installation I
need to port to a new server.
The old one is based on EXIM as MTA but I would like to use postfix, because
this is the one I use on a lot of servers.
I need to make mailman virtual. I have around 20 mail domains to handle.
So I install a Ubuntu 10.04LTS 64 bit and get the packages for postfix apache2
and mailman and install
No problem.
When trying to make the virtual postfix/mailman integration, I ran across a
post recommending to use mailman 2.1.14
Ok - I removed the mailman package from Ubuntu , actually 2.1.13 - downloaded
the 2.1.14 source
Ran configure, make and make install all seems OK.
I have added following to mm_cfg.py
##
MTA = "Postfix"
# Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line.
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = [ 'test.sdu.dk',
'some.other.domain',
..
add_virtualhost('test.sdu.dk','test.sdu.dk'
add_virtualhost('some.other.domain','some.other.domain')
called check_perms -f
called genaliases
and checked that i have the files :
my@mls2:/usr/local/mailman$ ll data/alia*
-rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 114222 2011-06-10 09:04 data/aliases
-rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 172032 2011-06-10 09:04 data/aliases.db
my@mls2:/usr/local/mailman$ ll data/virt*
-rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 86149 2011-06-10 09:04 data/virtual-mailman
-rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 176128 2011-06-10 09:04 data/virtual-mailman.db
Added to postfix main.cf:
transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport
alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases
alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases
virtual_alias_maps = hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman
mailman_destination_recipient_limit = 1
AND in transport i have entries like:
test.sdu.dk mailman:
some.other.domain mailman:
Then when trying to send a mail to a new list I get the following in mail.log
Jun 10 08:44:22 mls2 Mailman mail-wrapper: Group mismatch error. Mailman
expected the mail#012wrapper script to be executed as group "mailman",
but#012the system's mail server executed the mail script as#012group "nogroup".
Try tweaking the mail server to run the#012script as group "mailman", or
re-run configure, #012providing the command line option
`--with-mail-gid=nogroup'.
Jun 10 08:44:22 mls2 postfix/local[28200]: 3E460FFDF2:
to=, relay=local, delay=0.03,
delays=0.01/0/0/0.02, dsn=5.3.0, status=bounced (Command died with status 2:
"/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman". Command output: Group
mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as
group "mailman", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group
"nogroup". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group "mailman",
or re-run configure, providing the command line option
`--with-mail-gid=nogroup'. )
OK I go to the mailman source and recompile as suggested and get
Jun 10 07:28:29 mls2 Mailman mail-wrapper: Group mismatch error. Mailman
expected the mail#012wrapper script to be executed as group "nogroup",
but#012the system's mail server executed the mail script as#012group "mailman".
Try tweaking the mail server to run the#012script as group "nogroup", or
re-run configure, #012providing the command line option
`--with-mail-gid=mailman'.
Jun 10 07:28:29 mls2 postfix/local[22760]: 711C8FFD9D: to=,
orig_to=, relay=local, delay=14, delays=14/0.02/0/0.03,
dsn=5.3.0, status=bounced (Command died with status 2:
"/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post its". Command output: Group mismatch
error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group
"nogroup", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group
"mailman". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group "nogroup",
or re-run configure, providing the command line option
`--with-mail-gid=mailman'. )
Permissions on mailman wrapper are:
ll /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman
-rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 23741 2011-06-10 07:30
/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman*
Postfix alias file has permissions:
ll /etc/alias*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 775 2011-06-09 15:45 /etc/aliases
-rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 12288 2011-06-10 07:43 /etc/aliases.db
>From what I can see, the postfix should use the owner of the mail wrapper
>script and get the corresponding group and
execute with that.
Can anyone help?
Regards
Peter Sorensen/Univ. Of Southern Denmark/email: mas...@sdu.dk
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