Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown
On 2013-06-08 7:13 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: So, the doesn't occur with a single message to a single list, but it occurs when Postfix receives six messages at once FROM the lists-all list. Also your deliveries to to=validus...@media-brokers.com et al are via the virtual transport which is apparently unaffected. Hmm, so when a list only contains other lists as members, those will use postfix's local transport, but when the members are individuals (for final delivery), it uses virtual. Ok, that makes sense then. Also the weirdness when a list member has their vacation enabled - they get the original list message, but the vacation message gets stuck in the queue with the error. Another case of multiple messages to be handled by the local transport. Ok, yeah, I think you've nailed it... the problem is when more than one message at a time is passed to postfix/local... I'm thinking of trying to reinstalling (this is gentoo, so that will be easy) first mailman, then postfix... I'll probably try that tomorrow if no other solution presents itself. If you reinstall Mailman without touching Postfix and that fixes this, I'll be incredibly surprised. I think you're right, I'll do postfix first. All the evidence you've presented together with everything I know says this is a Postfix issue, not a Mailman issue. If I knew Postfix as well as I know Mailman, I could probably tell you how to fix this. Wish I did... I did get a comment from Victor on the postfix list to check all of my aliases, so I ran newaliases but that didn't help. Is there anything else I can do to test the mailman aliases? Since the individual lists work - confirmed because I sent the mass email I've been trying to send since this happened to each individual list that is a member of the lists-all list, and those all worked fine. I agree with you that this seems to be a postfix problem, but is it possible that some kind of corruption in a userb could cause these warnings? To recap, they are: The first one from postfix/master only shows up rarely - 11 times since I got the system back up, and within 5 or 10 minutes (but usually with 5 or 10 seconds) of postfix being restarted: postfix/master[6406]: warning: master_wakeup_timer_event: service tlsmgr(private/tlsmgr): Resource temporarily unavailable Then these (only when I try to send to my lists-all list): warning: connect to transport private/local: Resource temporarily unavailable warning: connect to transport private/retry: Resource temporarily unavailable I do have backups of my mysql userdb, as well as all others (mailman aliases/dbs, etc), so I can replace any of these from backups if it will fix the problem. Thanks again for your time and help Mark... Charles -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown
Thanks for trying, but mailman is running fine. Lists that have only real email addresses work fine. Also, individual messages invoking postfix/local also work fine, (ie, emails sent from cron (8 from last night and this morning), etc)... Mark has helped me narrow the problem down to whenever multiple messages are submitted to postfix/local simultaneously. On 2013-06-08 2:20 PM, Richard Shetron gue...@sgeinc.com wrote: I'd suggest trying ps -auxww|grep mailman to seem if any mailman processes are running, this assumes mailman runs as its own user id. Some installs use the username list or lists instead of mailman. If nothing show up then I'd check: 1) /etc/postfix/*.cf and /etc/postfix/transport and diff them with an older copy to make sure they haven't changed. 2) check /var/lib/mailman/qfiles/maildir The actual location may depend on your version and installation options. If mailman is NOT running then the cur subdir should be empty. I've found mailman will not restart if there is anything in the directory cur. I'd check the files, if any, in both new and cur and tmp just to see what's there. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown
On 06/09/2013 05:49 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: Wish I did... I did get a comment from Victor on the postfix list to check all of my aliases, so I ran newaliases but that didn't help. Is there anything else I can do to test the mailman aliases? I thought about aliases, but aliases are only consulted by the local transport, and the issue is in passing the message to the local transport (and also the retry transport and the vacation transport). Thus, I don't think aliases could be involved. However, if aliases were involved, the thing to run is Mailman's bin/genaliases, but we know aliases are not the problem, both from the above and the fact that the lists all work 'one at a time' There is definitely some resource contention issue when Postfix is trying to access the same socket for multiple messages. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown
Hello, Ok, we had a power failure, and apparently my UPS thought it had more time left than it did, as the UPS shut down before it shut down the system. Everything is back up and running, and postfix is running fine for all other mail, except list/mailman mail. I'm getting the following error when trying to send an email to one of the lists: 2013-06-08T06:30:47-04:00 myhost postfix/postsuper[29691]: Requeued: 1 message 2013-06-08T06:31:12-04:00 myhost postfix/pickup[3124]: D55D7B7D175: uid=207 from=valid-l...@media-brokers.com orig_id=45BF8B7B393 2013-06-08T06:31:12-04:00 myhost postfix/cleanup[29631]: D55D7B7D175: message-id=51b30786.7020...@media-brokers.com 2013-06-08T06:31:12-04:00 myhost postfix/qmgr[3126]: D55D7B7D175: from=valid-list-boun...@media-brokers.com, size=4065, nrcpt=6 (queue active) 2013-06-08T06:31:12-04:00 myhost postfix/qmgr[3126]: warning: connect to transport private/local: Resource temporarily unavailable 2013-06-08T06:31:12-04:00 myhost postfix/qmgr[3126]: warning: connect to transport private/retry: Resource temporarily unavailable I've run check_perms and it says 'No problems found'... Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks, charles -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown
On 6/8/2013 6:43 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: Ok, we had a power failure, and apparently my UPS thought it had more time left than it did, as the UPS shut down before it shut down the system. Everything is back up and running, and postfix is running fine for all other mail, except list/mailman mail. Is mailman possibly not running? Try this: ps -A | grep mailmanctl If that gives blank output, try this: /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl start (This was the solution for me when I had a similar problem a month and a half ago. I would like to know where to plug this in so it happens automatically on reboot. That should be an elementary question but I'm still not familiar with all these sysadmin tasks.) -- Larry Kuenning la...@qhpress.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown
On 2013-06-08 8:10 AM, Larry Kuenning la...@qhpress.org wrote: Is mailman possibly not running? Try this: ps -A | grep mailmanctl If that gives blank output, try this: /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl start Not blank - but what does the question mark mean? # ps -A | grep mailmanctl 2600 ?00:00:00 mailmanctl (This was the solution for me when I had a similar problem a month and a half ago. I would like to know where to plug this in so it happens automatically on reboot. That should be an elementary question but I'm still not familiar with all these sysadmin tasks.) I've tried restarting mailman (appears to work), and even tried rebooting... Thanks for the assist - any other ideas? Note: I think this is related to the three postfix errors I posted regarding a problem with the local transport - but I've googled and can't find a solution for that either... I only posted two of these here: 2013-06-08T06:31:12-04:00 myhost postfix/qmgr[3126]: warning: connect to transport private/local: Resource temporarily unavailable 2013-06-08T06:31:12-04:00 myhost postfix/qmgr[3126]: warning: connect to transport private/retry: Resource temporarily unavailable The third, which I don't see every time, is: postfix/master[29913]: warning: master_wakeup_timer_event: service tlsmgr(private/tlsmgr): Resource temporarily unavailable -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown
On 6/8/2013 8:52 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-06-08 8:10 AM, Larry Kuenning la...@qhpress.org wrote: Is mailman possibly not running? Try this: ps -A | grep mailmanctl If that gives blank output, try this: /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl start Not blank - but what does the question mark mean? # ps -A | grep mailmanctl 2600 ?00:00:00 mailmanctl Leaving out the grep to get the header (ps -C mailmanctl would have been better to start with) I see that that column is headed TTY. I guess the question mark means the process is not tied to a terminal and so will continue running even if all users log out. Which is the behavior you want, so the problem must be elsewhere. Thanks for the assist - any other ideas? Now you need help from somebody who actually knows how Mailman works. -- Larry Kuenning la...@qhpress.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown
On 06/08/2013 05:10 AM, Larry Kuenning wrote: (This was the solution for me when I had a similar problem a month and a half ago. I would like to know where to plug this in so it happens automatically on reboot. That should be an elementary question but I'm still not familiar with all these sysadmin tasks.) The GNU Mailman tarball distribution contains misc/mailman.in which configure uses to make misc/mailman. This is a sample init.d script for Mailman and it contains instructions for installing and activating it on RedHat/CentOS and Debian/Ubuntu. And if you installed Mailman from a package, your packager should have provided this or something similar. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown
On 06/08/2013 08:33 AM, Larry Kuenning wrote: On 6/8/2013 8:52 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: Not blank - but what does the question mark mean? # ps -A | grep mailmanctl 2600 ?00:00:00 mailmanctl Leaving out the grep to get the header (ps -C mailmanctl would have been better to start with) And 'ps -fwC python' or 'ps -fwu mailman' will show the qrunners too, but all this is moot as it is extremely unlikely that Postfix errors have anything to do with whether or not Mailman is actually running. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown
On 06/08/2013 03:43 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: I'm getting the following error when trying to send an email to one of the lists: 2013-06-08T06:30:47-04:00 myhost postfix/postsuper[29691]: Requeued: 1 message 2013-06-08T06:31:12-04:00 myhost postfix/pickup[3124]: D55D7B7D175: uid=207 from=valid-l...@media-brokers.com orig_id=45BF8B7B393 2013-06-08T06:31:12-04:00 myhost postfix/cleanup[29631]: D55D7B7D175: message-id=51b30786.7020...@media-brokers.com 2013-06-08T06:31:12-04:00 myhost postfix/qmgr[3126]: D55D7B7D175: from=valid-list-boun...@media-brokers.com, size=4065, nrcpt=6 (queue active) Postfix has received the message and is trying to deliver it via the local transport which is good. 2013-06-08T06:31:12-04:00 myhost postfix/qmgr[3126]: warning: connect to transport private/local: Resource temporarily unavailable but Postfix can't find the local transport or more likely there is a stale lock on the transport left over from before the crash, so Postfix tries to queue the message for retry. 2013-06-08T06:31:12-04:00 myhost postfix/qmgr[3126]: warning: connect to transport private/retry: Resource temporarily unavailable but it can't access the retry transport either ... I've run check_perms and it says 'No problems found'... Because this isn't a Mailman problem. It's a Postfix problem. I don't know enough Postfix to point directly at a solution, but I doubt that Postfix can deliver any mail via the local transport. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown
On 06/08/2013 10:20 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Postfix has received the message and is trying to deliver it via the local transport which is good. 2013-06-08T06:31:12-04:00 myhost postfix/qmgr[3126]: warning: connect to transport private/local: Resource temporarily unavailable but Postfix can't find the local transport or more likely there is a stale lock on the transport left over from before the crash, so Postfix tries to queue the message for retry. 2013-06-08T06:31:12-04:00 myhost postfix/qmgr[3126]: warning: connect to transport private/retry: Resource temporarily unavailable but it can't access the retry transport either ... Actually, private/local and private/retry refer to the sockets used for communication between the Postfix master and the various daemons. If you do 'netstat -l' you should see these and many others 'LISTENING', Do you? I don't know why a reboot or even just a stop and start of Postfix doesn't fix this. If you stop and start Postfix, are there any messages in the mail logs beyond the postfix/master[]: daemon started ... message? -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown
I'd suggest trying ps -auxww|grep mailman to seem if any mailman processes are running, this assumes mailman runs as its own user id. Some installs use the username list or lists instead of mailman. If nothing show up then I'd check: 1) /etc/postfix/*.cf and /etc/postfix/transport and diff them with an older copy to make sure they haven't changed. 2) check /var/lib/mailman/qfiles/maildir The actual location may depend on your version and installation options. If mailman is NOT running then the cur subdir should be empty. I've found mailman will not restart if there is anything in the directory cur. I'd check the files, if any, in both new and cur and tmp just to see what's there. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown
On 2013-06-08 1:58 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: Actually, private/local and private/retry refer to the sockets used for communication between the Postfix master and the various daemons. If you do 'netstat -l' you should see these and many others 'LISTENING', Do you? Yep, they're all there. And local is working - at least sometimes (see below) :( I don't know why a reboot or even just a stop and start of Postfix doesn't fix this. If you stop and start Postfix, are there any messages in the mail logs beyond the postfix/master[]: daemon started ... message? Nothing more than the three warnings I already posted, two of which you see below, and the third being: 2013-06-08T13:10:19-04:00 myhost postfix/master[4076]: warning: master_wakeup_timer_event: service tlsmgr(private/tlsmgr): Resource temporarily unavailable But, I have more details after some testing... First, mailman is definitely working. I tested sending to one of my test lists with just two people on it, and it works fine: 2013-06-08T16:28:31-04:00 myhost postfix/qmgr[4078]: 88BA3831DC: from=cmar...@media-brokers.com, size=743, nrcpt=1 (queue active) 2013-06-08T16:28:31-04:00 myhost postfix-587/smtpd[5878]: disconnect from client.atl.media-brokers.com[192.168.1.110] 2013-06-08T16:28:31-04:00 myhost postfix/local[5884]: 88BA3831DC: to=test-l...@smtp.media-brokers.com, orig_to=test-l...@media-brokers.com, relay=local, delay=0.31, delays=0.08/0/0/0.23, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/lib64/mailman/mail/mailman post test-list) 2013-06-08T16:28:31-04:00 myhost postfix/qmgr[4078]: 88BA3831DC: removed 2013-06-08T16:28:32-04:00 myhost dovecot: imap(cmar...@media-brokers.com): Connection closed in=1013 out=1725269 2013-06-08T16:28:32-04:00 myhost dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=cmar...@media-brokers.com, method=PLAIN, rip=192.168.1.110, lport=993, mpid=5900, TLS, session=T7IhZKreIgDAqAFu 2013-06-08T16:28:33-04:00 myhost postfix-25/smtpd[5887]: connect from myhost.media-brokers.com[127.0.0.1] 2013-06-08T16:28:33-04:00 myhost postfix-25/smtpd[5887]: 668EA831DC: client=myhost.media-brokers.com[127.0.0.1] 2013-06-08T16:28:33-04:00 myhost postfix/cleanup[5883]: 668EA831DC: message-id=51b393ef.2010...@media-brokers.com 2013-06-08T16:28:33-04:00 myhost postfix/qmgr[4078]: 668EA831DC: from=test-list-boun...@media-brokers.com, size=1269, nrcpt=1 (queue active) 2013-06-08T16:28:33-04:00 myhost postfix-25/smtpd[5887]: 77983189530: client=myhost.media-brokers.com[127.0.0.1] 2013-06-08T16:28:33-04:00 myhost postfix/cleanup[5883]: 77983189530: message-id=51b393ef.2010...@media-brokers.com 2013-06-08T16:28:33-04:00 myhost postfix/qmgr[4078]: 77983189530: from=test-list-boun...@media-brokers.com, size=1271, nrcpt=2 (queue active) 2013-06-08T16:28:33-04:00 myhost postfix-25/smtpd[5887]: disconnect from myhost.media-brokers.com[127.0.0.1] 2013-06-08T16:28:33-04:00 myhost postfix/virtual[5889]: 77983189530: to=recipi...@media-brokers.com, relay=virtual, delay=0.2, delays=0.05/0/0/0.15, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to maildir) 2013-06-08T16:28:33-04:00 myhost postfix/pipe[5890]: 77983189530: to=recipient#media-brokers@autoreply.media-brokers.com, orig_to=recipi...@media-brokers.com, relay=vacation, delay=0.4, delays=0.05/0/0/0.35, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via vacation service) 2013-06-08T16:28:33-04:00 myhost postfix/qmgr[4078]: 77983189530: removed 2013-06-08T16:28:35-04:00 myhost postfix/smtp[5888]: 668EA831DC: to=recipi...@example.org, relay=filtered.maildistiller.com[176.31.241.80]:25, delay=1.8, delays=0.07/0/0.62/1.1, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 0F38F157) 2013-06-08T16:28:35-04:00 myhost postfix/qmgr[4078]: 668EA831DC: removed I tested with another list that has 6 people on it, two of whom have their vacation message enabled (I use postfixadmin vacation), and while all 6 recipients got the message, there were two messages that got stuck in the queue that are related to the vacation message: 2013-06-08T16:36:50-04:00 myhost postfix/qmgr[4078]: 4F86719D832: from=cmar...@media-brokers.com, size=935, nrcpt=1 (queue active) 2013-06-08T16:36:50-04:00 myhost postfix-587/smtpd[5968]: disconnect from client.atl.media-brokers.com[192.168.1.110] 2013-06-08T16:36:50-04:00 myhost postfix/local[5970]: 4F86719D832: to=test-li...@smtp.media-brokers.com, orig_to=test-li...@media-brokers.com, relay=local, delay=0.28, delays=0.09/0.01/0/0.18, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/lib64/mailman/mail/mailman post test-list2) 2013-06-08T16:36:50-04:00 myhost postfix/qmgr[4078]: 4F86719D832: removed 2013-06-08T16:36:52-04:00 myhost postfix-25/smtpd[5973]: connect from myhost.media-brokers.com[127.0.0.1] 2013-06-08T16:36:52-04:00 myhost postfix-25/smtpd[5973]: 22FAC19D832: client=myhost.media-brokers.com[127.0.0.1] 2013-06-08T16:36:52-04:00 myhost postfix/cleanup[5969]: 22FAC19D832: message-id=51b395e2.7070...@media-brokers.com
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown
On 06/08/2013 02:21 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: It also seems to be something to do with how many recipients are involved. One or two appear to be ok, but more than that and it gets iffy... I think that's a coincidence. The biggest problem is with delivery from Postfix to Mailman, at which point nothing knows how many list members there are or how many messages Mailman will send. Appreciate any more thoughts on this weirdness, because I'm stumped See this http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/postfix-users/message/245375, particularly the replies from Wietse. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown
On 2013-06-08 5:44 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: On 06/08/2013 02:21 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: It also seems to be something to do with how many recipients are involved. One or two appear to be ok, but more than that and it gets iffy... I think that's a coincidence. The biggest problem is with delivery from Postfix to Mailman, at which point nothing knows how many list members there are or how many messages Mailman will send. Appreciate any more thoughts on this weirdness, because I'm stumped See this http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/postfix-users/message/245375, particularly the replies from Wietse. I read them all, and I don't think it is relevant (this is the same kernel and same versions of postfix dovecot and mailman for some time now), but, I changed the default limit to 10 and reloaded postfix, with the same error when sending to my 'All' list (that has only 6 members, all lists). Also, as I said, lists that only have individual recipients work just fine, even with 30+ recipients. Also the weirdness when a list member has their vacation enabled - they get the original list message, but the vacation message gets stuck in the queue with the error. I'm thinking of trying to reinstalling (this is gentoo, so that will be easy) first mailman, then postfix... I'll probably try that tomorrow if no other solution presents itself. Thanks for your help, Mark, much appreciated... -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown
On 06/08/2013 03:10 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: I read them all, and I don't think it is relevant (this is the same kernel and same versions of postfix dovecot and mailman for some time now), but, I changed the default limit to 10 and reloaded postfix, with the same error when sending to my 'All' list (that has only 6 members, all lists). How long was the system up before the crash, and during that time did you change any dynamic configuration parameters the would have been reverted by the crash. Also, as I said, lists that only have individual recipients work just fine, even with 30+ recipients. So, the doesn't occur with a single message to a single list, but it occurs when Postfix receives six messages at once FROM the lists-all list. Also your deliveries to to=validus...@media-brokers.com et al are via the virtual transport which is apparently unaffected. Also the weirdness when a list member has their vacation enabled - they get the original list message, but the vacation message gets stuck in the queue with the error. Another case of multiple messages to be handled by the local transport. I'm thinking of trying to reinstalling (this is gentoo, so that will be easy) first mailman, then postfix... I'll probably try that tomorrow if no other solution presents itself. If you reinstall Mailman without touching Postfix and that fixes this, I'll be incredibly surprised. All the evidence you've presented together with everything I know says this is a Postfix issue, not a Mailman issue. If I knew Postfix as well as I know Mailman, I could probably tell you how to fix this. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Hello! Req: Mailing List Issue : Plz Help About This
*Detail Issue: *Sir i m sending emails to yahoogroups through (Mail Man) mailing list .. but my emails are not show or not delivered on some yahoogroups domain (like yahoogroups.com) page ... according to my observation if i add more than 10 yahoogroups in my mailing list so my email is not delivered to specially (yahoogroups.com) domain ... and if i add less than 10 yahoogrops in my mailing list so my emails is delivered to all yahoogroups (like yahoogroups.com, yahoogroups.com.ca, yahoogroups.com.mx) included (yahoogroups.com) domain ... Plz sir help me ... i m thankfull to you for this Thanx Rgard : -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello! Req: Mailing List Issue : Plz Help About This
_!!!_ DesiAmie _!!!_ wrote: *Sir i m sending emails to yahoogroups through (Mail Man) mailing list .. but my emails are not show or not delivered on some yahoogroups domain (like yahoogroups.com) page ... according to my observation if i add more than 10 yahoogroups in my mailing list so my email is not delivered to specially (yahoogroups.com) domain ... and if i add less than 10 yahoogrops in my mailing list so my emails is delivered to all yahoogroups (like yahoogroups.com, yahoogroups.com.ca, yahoogroups.com.mx) included (yahoogroups.com) domain ... I suspect that this is a Yahoo groups feature that prevents cross-posting to more than 10 groups. Whether or not anything can be done in Mailman to work around this depends on what Yahoo is doing. If Yahoo is basing their decision solely on the RCPTs of a single message, you might be able to work around this by enabling VERP in Mailman or setting SMTP_MAX_RCPTS to something less than 10. On the other hand, if when there are more than 10 Yahoo groups recipients, up to 10 accept the post and the rest do not, I suspect the filtering depends on Message-ID and since all deliveries of a post from Mailman have the same original Message-ID, there's nothing much you could do. Why are you using a Mailman list to post to multiple Yahoo groups anyway? -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello List
Hi, You're right in that I did forget the Approved: approach, as I didn't iknow about it until recently. Howver, thinking about it further, there's one thing I don't like about it. It's OK if the people posting are list admins or moderators, but if you have othwers who should be able to post to the list, you don't necessarily want to give them all the admin or moderator password. An additional password for this purpose would perhaps be called for here, one that's only used to allow posts through without granting any other access. Geoff. - Original Message - From: Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net To: Geoff Shang ge...@quitelikely.com; Mailman-Users@python.org Sent: Wednesday, 16 December, 2009 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello List Geoff Shang wrote: And of course unmoderate the list admin and anyone else you want to be able to post. This is not good advice. Everyone should be moderated and posters should use an Approved: password header to post. Otherwise, it's too easy for an unauthorized poster to spoof an authorized address. Spammers even do it accidently. You should also probably set the list to reject posts from moderated members, otherwise you'll need to manually process posts from anyone who tries to post. Yes. This is all covered in the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/3YA9. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4699 (20091218) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4699 (20091218) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello List
On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 18:17 +0200, Geoff Shang wrote: Howver, thinking about it further, there's one thing I don't like about it. It's OK if the people posting are list admins or moderators, but if you have othwers who should be able to post to the list, you don't necessarily want to give them all the admin or moderator password. An additional password for this purpose would perhaps be called for here, one that's only used to allow posts through without granting any other access. Is there some reason that you, as admin, can't just un-set their moderation flag? -- Lindsay Haisley |Fighting against human | PGP public key FMP Computer Services | creativity is like | available at 512-259-1190 | trying to eradicate |http://pubkeys.fmp.com http://www.fmp.com| dandelions | | (Pamela Jones) | -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello List
Hi, Yes I can clear their moderation flag, and in fact this is what I first suggested, but my message was in response to a message from Mark who was putting forward the position that this was a bad idea and that it's better to post using the Approved: header instead. Geoff. - Original Message - From: Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com To: mailman-users@python.org Sent: Friday, 18 December, 2009 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello List On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 18:17 +0200, Geoff Shang wrote: Howver, thinking about it further, there's one thing I don't like about it. It's OK if the people posting are list admins or moderators, but if you have othwers who should be able to post to the list, you don't necessarily want to give them all the admin or moderator password. An additional password for this purpose would perhaps be called for here, one that's only used to allow posts through without granting any other access. Is there some reason that you, as admin, can't just un-set their moderation flag? -- Lindsay Haisley |Fighting against human | PGP public key FMP Computer Services | creativity is like | available at 512-259-1190 | trying to eradicate |http://pubkeys.fmp.com http://www.fmp.com| dandelions | | (Pamela Jones) | -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/geoff%40quitelikely.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4699 (20091218) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4699 (20091218) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello List
On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 18:34 +0200, Geoff Shang wrote: Yes I can clear their moderation flag, and in fact this is what I first suggested, but my message was in response to a message from Mark who was putting forward the position that this was a bad idea and that it's better to post using the Approved: header instead. I don't entirely agree with Mark on this. I generally offer my customers the option of using either mechanism, with the caveat that using the mod flag is potentially less secure. You have two moderation passwords, one for administrators and one for moderators. Either will work in an Approved header or pseudo- header. If you don't designate any moderators, then only the administrator password is effective. There's no reason you couldn't designate a group of moderators and give them the password, and then change it administratively if their service is no longer needed. -- Lindsay Haisley | Never expect the people who caused a problem FMP Computer Services | to solve it. - Albert Einstein 512-259-1190 | http://www.fmp.com| -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello List
On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 18:34 +0200, Geoff Shang wrote: Yes I can clear their moderation flag, and in fact this is what I first suggested, but my message was in response to a message from Mark who was putting forward the position that this was a bad idea and that it's better to post using the Approved: header instead. I don't entirely agree with Mark on this. I generally offer my customers the option of using either mechanism, with the caveat that using the mod flag is potentially less secure. You have two moderation passwords, one for administrators and one for moderators. Either will work in an Approved header or pseudo- header. If you don't designate any moderators, then only the administrator password is effective. There's no reason you couldn't designate a group of moderators and give them the password, and then change it administratively if their service is no longer needed. -- Lindsay Haisley | Never expect the people who caused a problem FMP Computer Services | to solve it. - Albert Einstein 512-259-1190 | http://www.fmp.com| -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello List
Lindsay Haisley wrote: On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 18:34 +0200, Geoff Shang wrote: Yes I can clear their moderation flag, and in fact this is what I first suggested, but my message was in response to a message from Mark who was putting forward the position that this was a bad idea and that it's better to post using the Approved: header instead. I don't entirely agree with Mark on this. I generally offer my customers the option of using either mechanism, with the caveat that using the mod flag is potentially less secure. FWIW, I was recommending the Approved: password approach in the context of a reply where the OP said I only want the list administrator to be able to post messages to the list. I agree that in the case where you have authorized posters who are not necessarily admins or moderators that controlling posting by unmoderating posters and/or accept_these_nonmembers is appropriate although still subject to spoofing. It all depends on the list. You have two moderation passwords, one for administrators and one for moderators. Either will work in an Approved header or pseudo- header. If you don't designate any moderators, then only the administrator password is effective. There's no reason you couldn't designate a group of moderators and give them the password, and then change it administratively if their service is no longer needed. Just to be clear, the presence or absence of an email address in the owner or moderator attributes of a list has nothing to do with who can do what. It only controls where notices are sent and what appears in web page footers. It is quite possible to set a moderator password without adding any addresses to 'moderator', and anyone who knows that password can post an Approved: or Urgent: message and log in to the admindb page. See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/5YA9. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello List
On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 11:00 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: Just to be clear, the presence or absence of an email address in the owner or moderator attributes of a list has nothing to do with who can do what. It only controls where notices are sent and what appears in web page footers. It is quite possible to set a moderator password without adding any addresses to 'moderator', and anyone who knows that password can post an Approved: or Urgent: message and log in to the admindb page. I'm aware of this, but it does bring up another question, which, in my own cowardly way, I was trying to avoid dealing with ;-/ I assume that if one sets up a new list and doesn't set a moderator password, then only the administrator can use an Approved: [pseudo]header and there's no default moderator password. If one sets up a moderator password then either will work. I (naively) assumed that deleting all moderator email addresses _might_ thereby render the moderator password ineffective, but in my guts, I knew it probably wasn't so. Is there any way to nullify the moderator password altogether? Does submitting the passwords page with an empty field for the mod pw accomplish this? -- Lindsay Haisley | The difference between | PGP public key FMP Computer Services | a duck is because one | available at 512-259-1190 | leg is both the same | http://pubkeys.fmp.com http://www.fmp.com| - Anonymous | -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello List
On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 11:00 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: Just to be clear, the presence or absence of an email address in the owner or moderator attributes of a list has nothing to do with who can do what. It only controls where notices are sent and what appears in web page footers. It is quite possible to set a moderator password without adding any addresses to 'moderator', and anyone who knows that password can post an Approved: or Urgent: message and log in to the admindb page. I'm aware of this, but it does bring up another question, which, in my own cowardly way, I was trying to avoid dealing with ;-/ I assume that if one sets up a new list and doesn't set a moderator password, then only the administrator can use an Approved: [pseudo]header and there's no default moderator password. If one sets up a moderator password then either will work. I (naively) assumed that deleting all moderator email addresses _might_ thereby render the moderator password ineffective, but in my guts, I knew it probably wasn't so. Is there any way to nullify the moderator password altogether? Does submitting the passwords page with an empty field for the mod pw accomplish this? -- Lindsay Haisley | The difference between | PGP public key FMP Computer Services | a duck is because one | available at 512-259-1190 | leg is both the same | http://pubkeys.fmp.com http://www.fmp.com| - Anonymous | -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello List
Lindsay Haisley wrote: Is there any way to nullify the moderator password altogether? Does submitting the passwords page with an empty field for the mod pw accomplish this? You can't remove a moderator password through the GUI. You could always enter some obscure string that you will immediately forget, and that's probably as good, but if you really want to remove it, you have to set mod_password = None via bin/withlist or bin/config_list. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Hello List
Here's my first post to this list :) I'm setting up a mailing list and I only want the list administrator to be able to post messages to the list, can this be set as some kind of default setting? Thanks Wayne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello List
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 08:11:22PM -0600, Wayne Cook wrote: Here's my first post to this list :) I'm setting up a mailing list and I only want the list administrator to be able to post messages to the list, can this be set as some kind of default setting? http://wiki.list.org/x/3YA9 (searching for announcement gave that as the first result) -- I only can properly enjoy carol services if I am having an illicit affair with someone in the congregation. Why is this? Perhaps because they are essentially pagan, not Christian, celebrations. (Alan Clark's 'Diaries') -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello List
Wayne Cook wrote: I'm setting up a mailing list and I only want the list administrator to be able to post messages to the list, can this be set as some kind of default setting? See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/3YA9 for how to set this up. If you want this to be the default for newly created lists, some of these settings can be made defaults in the site's mm_cfg.py. See Defaults.py for the descriptions of the available settings. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello List
Wayne Cook wc...@mycoachonline.com wrote: Here's my first post to this list :) I'm setting up a mailing list and I only want the list administrator to be able to post messages to the list, can this be set as some kind of default setting? Thanks Wayne Change the list configuration so that all subscribers are moderated. And then set each current subscriber to moderated via one click on the membership admin web page. -- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone:+1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 240, Room 5.B.8 Internet: bsfin...@anl.gov Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello List
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Barry Finkel wrote: I'm setting up a mailing list and I only want the list administrator to be able to post messages to the list, can this be set as some kind of default setting? Change the list configuration so that all subscribers are moderated. And then set each current subscriber to moderated via one click on the membership admin web page. And of course unmoderate the list admin and anyone else you want to be able to post. You should also probably set the list to reject posts from moderated members, otherwise you'll need to manually process posts from anyone who tries to post. Geoff. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello List
Geoff Shang wrote: And of course unmoderate the list admin and anyone else you want to be able to post. This is not good advice. Everyone should be moderated and posters should use an Approved: password header to post. Otherwise, it's too easy for an unauthorized poster to spoof an authorized address. Spammers even do it accidently. You should also probably set the list to reject posts from moderated members, otherwise you'll need to manually process posts from anyone who tries to post. Yes. This is all covered in the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/3YA9. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Hello, In need of help please
Hello All, I have setup mailman on my server, I got it up running created a maillist. During my testing, I sent I test message to my list I got a failure back. The first failure I got when I sent it from an email account not associated with the server.. This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason: Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server. The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why each recipient was rejected. Recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reason:5.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Relay access denied This next error come when I sent from an email address that is set up through the mail server on the same machine as mailman. This is the mail system at host li20-14.members.linode.com. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The mail system [EMAIL PROTECTED]: mail for xalarisirc.net loops back to myself Any ideas or suggestions on what I can do to correct this? Thanks Juston Griggs -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello, In need of help please
Juston Griggs wrote: The first failure I got when I sent it from an email account not associated with the server.. This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason: snip Reason:5.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Relay access denied This next error come when I sent from an email address that is set up through the mail server on the same machine as mailman. This is the mail system at host li20-14.members.linode.com. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The mail system [EMAIL PROTECTED]: mail for xalarisirc.net loops back to myself These are MTA (Postfix?) configuration questions, not Mailman questions. Just one guess - if this is Postfix, add xalarisirc.net to virtual_alias_domains in Postfix's main.cf. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello, In need of help please
Thanks for the response, I did what you suggested, and I tried a test message, now I get this... This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason: Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server. The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why each recipient was rejected. Recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reason:5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table Thanks for the help Juston -Original Message- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 11:41 AM To: Juston Griggs; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello, In need of help please Juston Griggs wrote: The first failure I got when I sent it from an email account not associated with the server.. This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason: snip Reason:5.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Relay access denied This next error come when I sent from an email address that is set up through the mail server on the same machine as mailman. This is the mail system at host li20-14.members.linode.com. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The mail system [EMAIL PROTECTED]: mail for xalarisirc.net loops back to myself These are MTA (Postfix?) configuration questions, not Mailman questions. Just one guess - if this is Postfix, add xalarisirc.net to virtual_alias_domains in Postfix's main.cf. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1340 - Release Date: 3/23/2008 6:50 PM -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello, In need of help please
Juston Griggs wrote: Thanks for the response, I did what you suggested, and I tried a test message, now I get this... This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason: Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server. The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why each recipient was rejected. Recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reason:5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table See http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node12.html including the subsections # 6.1.1 Integrating Postfix and Mailman # 6.1.2 Virtual domains for information about setting up Mailman and Postfix to work together. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Hello, I am new to this list and need a little help
I have two mailman mailing lists on my server, the first one is working great, however the second one is having some problems. When accessing the adminitrative website it is using 'localhost.localdomain.com' for the url. I am not sure where I can go to change this for the second list I have. The first list resolves to my actual domain correctly. I am using mailmain version 2.1.8, if you need any more information please let me know. Thank you in advance, John -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello, I am new to this list and need a little help
John Lieber wrote: When accessing the adminitrative website it is using 'localhost.localdomain.com' for the url. I am not sure where I can go to change this for the second list I have. The first list resolves to my actual domain correctly. The list's web_page_url attribute is wrong. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?query=web_page_urlquerytype=simplecasefold=yesreq=search for more information about running fix_url to correct it. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Hello! And Emails Stuck on my lists
Hello, I am new, my name is Sara. I have been using the MailMan Mailing lists for about 5 years now I think. I have loved it. I just got a new problem that is pretty annoying. First, I don't have FULL control of my servers. I have tech guys who run it, but my clients have run into a problem of emails not sending. They can access everything, the emails show up in the list archives. But it won't send to the users on the list. I have searched all past posts and tried to tell my tech guys that it seemed as if they were getting stuck in cache. All the rest of the emails work on the server, they all go to the person they should, just the mailing list won't send out. Can someone please give me something I can tell them? Or even where I can maybe see if it is something I can do myself? We are running on a Cpanel server and I know that makes it a bit harder, but I would love any suggestions anyone can offer me. Thank you again for the wonderful lists, I would be so lost with out them! Which I am feeling that now lol Sara -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] hello genaliases
Mark
Thanks very much..
It is ok..
Gus
Mark Sapiro escribió:
Gustavo U. Navarro wrote:
Mark Sapiro escribió:
Gustavo U. Navarro wrote:
I need generate a file aliases in mailman.. for postfix..
Do you have
MTA = 'Postfix'
in mm_cfg.py?
not because I use local domain and not virtual domain
these is part of my file mm_cfg.py
You still need MTA = 'Postfix' in mm_cfg.py if you want Mailman to
generate and maintain the data/aliases* files for Postfix.
#-
# Uncomment this if you configured your MTA such that it
# automatically recognizes newly created lists.
# (see /usr/share/doc/mailman/README.{EXIM,...})
# MTA=None # Misnomer, suppresses alias output on newlist
#-
# Uncomment if you use Postfix virtual domains, but be sure to
# read /usr/share/doc/mailman/README.POSTFIX first.
# MTA='Postfix'
# Note - if you're looking for something that is imported from mm_cfg,
but you
# didn't find it above, it's probably in
/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py.
I don't know what brain dead packager put those comments in mm_cfg.py,
but that comment is just wrong. If you want Mailman to generate
aliases for Postfix, you need MTA = 'Postfix' whether or not you are
using virtual domains. See
http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node12.html. You need to do the
things discussed in sec 6.1.1 in any case. If you are using Postfix
virtual domains, you also need the things discussed in section 6.1.2.
You may also find the comments in Defaults.py regarding MTA and
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS to be of interest.
but when I put /bin/genaliases..
I can't generarte..
What happens when you give the bin/genaliases command? What is the
response?
## lista de distribuci?n mailman
mailman: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman
mailman-admin: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman
mailman-bounces: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman
mailman-confirm: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman
mailman-join: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman
mailman-leave: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman
mailman-owner: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman
mailman-request: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman
mailman-subscribe: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman
mailman-unsubscribe: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman
Because you have not overridden the default MTA = 'Manual', genaliases
just prints the aliases for you to deal with manually.
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[Mailman-Users] hello genaliases
Hello I need generate a file aliases in mailman.. for postfix.. but when I put /bin/genaliases.. I can't generarte.. Could anyone help me... thanks gustavo navarro -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] hello genaliases
Gustavo U. Navarro wrote: I need generate a file aliases in mailman.. for postfix.. Do you have MTA = 'Postfix' in mm_cfg.py? but when I put /bin/genaliases.. I can't generarte.. What happens when you give the bin/genaliases command? What is the response? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] hello genaliases
Mark Sapiro escribió:
Gustavo U. Navarro wrote:
I need generate a file aliases in mailman.. for postfix..
Do you have
MTA = 'Postfix'
in mm_cfg.py?
not because I use local domain and not virtual domain
these is part of my file mm_cfg.py
#-
# Uncomment this if you configured your MTA such that it
# automatically recognizes newly created lists.
# (see /usr/share/doc/mailman/README.{EXIM,...})
# MTA=None # Misnomer, suppresses alias output on newlist
#-
# Uncomment if you use Postfix virtual domains, but be sure to
# read /usr/share/doc/mailman/README.POSTFIX first.
# MTA='Postfix'
# Note - if you're looking for something that is imported from mm_cfg,
but you
# didn't find it above, it's probably in
/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py.
but when I put /bin/genaliases..
I can't generarte..
What happens when you give the bin/genaliases command? What is the
response?
## lista de distribuci?n mailman
mailman: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman
mailman-admin: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman
mailman-bounces: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman
mailman-confirm: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman
mailman-join: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman
mailman-leave: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman
mailman-owner: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman
mailman-request: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman
mailman-subscribe: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman
mailman-unsubscribe: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman
Could you help me...
thanks
gus
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Re: [Mailman-Users] hello genaliases
Gustavo U. Navarro wrote:
Mark Sapiro escribió:
Gustavo U. Navarro wrote:
I need generate a file aliases in mailman.. for postfix..
Do you have
MTA = 'Postfix'
in mm_cfg.py?
not because I use local domain and not virtual domain
these is part of my file mm_cfg.py
You still need MTA = 'Postfix' in mm_cfg.py if you want Mailman to
generate and maintain the data/aliases* files for Postfix.
#-
# Uncomment this if you configured your MTA such that it
# automatically recognizes newly created lists.
# (see /usr/share/doc/mailman/README.{EXIM,...})
# MTA=None # Misnomer, suppresses alias output on newlist
#-
# Uncomment if you use Postfix virtual domains, but be sure to
# read /usr/share/doc/mailman/README.POSTFIX first.
# MTA='Postfix'
# Note - if you're looking for something that is imported from mm_cfg,
but you
# didn't find it above, it's probably in
/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py.
I don't know what brain dead packager put those comments in mm_cfg.py,
but that comment is just wrong. If you want Mailman to generate
aliases for Postfix, you need MTA = 'Postfix' whether or not you are
using virtual domains. See
http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node12.html. You need to do the
things discussed in sec 6.1.1 in any case. If you are using Postfix
virtual domains, you also need the things discussed in section 6.1.2.
You may also find the comments in Defaults.py regarding MTA and
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS to be of interest.
but when I put /bin/genaliases..
I can't generarte..
What happens when you give the bin/genaliases command? What is the
response?
## lista de distribuci?n mailman
mailman: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman
mailman-admin: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman
mailman-bounces: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman
mailman-confirm: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman
mailman-join: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman
mailman-leave: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman
mailman-owner: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman
mailman-request: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman
mailman-subscribe: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman
mailman-unsubscribe: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman
Because you have not overridden the default MTA = 'Manual', genaliases
just prints the aliases for you to deal with manually.
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[Mailman-Users] hello postfix and mailman
Dears
I have a problem with postfix...and mailman
Postfix is run ok but when run with mailman said one error
Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table..
These is my file
main.cf
myhostname = piluso.clacso.edu.ar
# mydomain = clacso.edu.ar
alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases
alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases
myorigin = /etc/mailname
mydestination = clacso.edu.ar, piluso.clacso.edu.ar,
muleto.clacso.edu.ar, local
host.clacso.edu.ar, , localhost
relayhost =
mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8, 168.96.200.0/24
mailbox_command = procmail -a $EXTENSION
mailbox_size_limit = 0
recipient_delimiter = +
inet_interfaces = all
# configuracion mailman
relay_domains = piluso.clacso.edu.ar
transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport
mailman_destination_recipient_limit = 1
master.cf
I put in the file
Configuracion para mailman
mailman unix - n n - - pipe
flags=FR user=list
argv=/var/lib/mailman/bin/postfix-to-mailman.py ${nexthop} ${user}
I created transport with
piluso.clacso.edu.ar mailman:
after I created the transport.db
---
in mm_cfg.py
I created
# configuracion para mailman
MTA = None # No MTA alias processing required
#alias for postmaster, abuse and mailer-daemon
DEB_LISTMASTER = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Someone could help me
Thanks
gus
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[Mailman-Users] hello, question about mailheaders
hello everybody!.I'm a new mailman user, I'm installing it for a mailing list on my university (UNAM). Until now I haven't had any problems with my configuration, but my boss (teacher) wants me to put a banner on every mail posted on the list. The banner must be a jpeg image and it should be loaded from my server. I thought of putting a src image label on my header in regular delivery configuration, but it seems that is not allowed, the symbol lt; appears instead; i've tried everything / and other characters before the character but nothing seems to work. p.d i put no on my html to text checkbox If someone answers this , I will be very grateful . thanks everybody -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello and newbie question(s)
Thank you to Mark and Bryan for the help. Trying to figure out what
this all this means (I'm still in the deep water.) I've asked our
network guy to take a look, though I know I'm driving him crazy.
I might perhaps need to come back and ask some for some further
simplification, but here's hoping I can figure it out.
Thanks again!
Jeremy
On Jan 14, 2006, at 7:57 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
J. Horton wrote:
I'm very adept at configuring list via the web interface, but I now
have a bit of a problem.
Recently, we decided to set up individual lists for each Kentucky
county represented in our organization's BIG LIST. I created these
lists (120 in all) using the command lines, and they are now set up
and running (though empty). Problem is, I'd like to set the same
bounce processing variables for each list, without having to go into
the web interface to each individually (a huge time killer).
Is there anyway to do this kind of work globally via the command
line? Here are the configurations I would like to try and do all at
one time, and I was wondering not only how to type the command, but
also how to enter the values (whether integer or Yes/No):
You need a combination of things.
bin/config_list -i file_name list_name
will do the work of configuring one list. Run
bin/config_list --help
for details of the command. Run
bin/config_list -o file_name some_list_name
to get an example of what things need to look like in the input file.
Keep in mind that the input file need have only those attributes you
want to change.
Then you need to wrap the above command in a shell script that will
run
it for each list.
Also, I have yet to import email addresses into these 120 individual
lists. I have, however, separated all the lists into individual text
files (countyX.txt, countyY.txt, etc.) Is there a way (again) to
do this import via the command line (thus bypassing the web
interface?)
bin/add_members is what you want here. Again, run
bin/add_members --help
for details. and you'll need to wrap this in a shell script to run the
command once for each list/input combination.
I have no idea what the scripting commands look like in the Mac
Terminal shell, but this kind of script is fairly simple.
For example, suppose you have the listnames in a file named
/path/to/listnames, and further suppose for simplicity that the list
names are countyX, countyY, etc. as in the file names above.
Then if this were a *nix sh compatible shell, the script might look
like
for name in `cat /path/to/listnames`
do bin/config_list -i /path/to/config/input ${name}
bin/add_members -r /path/to/${name}.txt -w n -a n ${name}
done
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[Mailman-Users] Hello and newbie question(s)
Hello- Been a regular user of Mailman for a while now (it's fantastic), but only recently digging into the command line side of things. Our network guy did all the install, and slowly started showing me tips and tricks to do in Terminal (Mac). I'm very adept at configuring list via the web interface, but I now have a bit of a problem. Recently, we decided to set up individual lists for each Kentucky county represented in our organization's BIG LIST. I created these lists (120 in all) using the command lines, and they are now set up and running (though empty). Problem is, I'd like to set the same bounce processing variables for each list, without having to go into the web interface to each individually (a huge time killer). Is there anyway to do this kind of work globally via the command line? Here are the configurations I would like to try and do all at one time, and I was wondering not only how to type the command, but also how to enter the values (whether integer or Yes/No): Configs with values the are integers: bounce_score_threshold bounce_info_stale_after bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings_interval Configs with values that are Yes/No: bounce_unrecognized_goes_to_list_owner bounce_notify_owner_on_disable bounce_notify_owner_on_removal Also, I have yet to import email addresses into these 120 individual lists. I have, however, separated all the lists into individual text files (countyX.txt, countyY.txt, etc.) Is there a way (again) to do this import via the command line (thus bypassing the web interface?) My apologies for the newbie questions, but I'm on a bit of a deadline, so I wanted to see if there was an answer before I blocked out the next 10 hours digging into 120 Mailman web interfaces... Thank you! Jeremy Horton -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello and newbie question(s)
J. Horton wrote:
I'm very adept at configuring list via the web interface, but I now
have a bit of a problem.
Recently, we decided to set up individual lists for each Kentucky
county represented in our organization's BIG LIST. I created these
lists (120 in all) using the command lines, and they are now set up
and running (though empty). Problem is, I'd like to set the same
bounce processing variables for each list, without having to go into
the web interface to each individually (a huge time killer).
Is there anyway to do this kind of work globally via the command
line? Here are the configurations I would like to try and do all at
one time, and I was wondering not only how to type the command, but
also how to enter the values (whether integer or Yes/No):
You need a combination of things.
bin/config_list -i file_name list_name
will do the work of configuring one list. Run
bin/config_list --help
for details of the command. Run
bin/config_list -o file_name some_list_name
to get an example of what things need to look like in the input file.
Keep in mind that the input file need have only those attributes you
want to change.
Then you need to wrap the above command in a shell script that will run
it for each list.
Also, I have yet to import email addresses into these 120 individual
lists. I have, however, separated all the lists into individual text
files (countyX.txt, countyY.txt, etc.) Is there a way (again) to
do this import via the command line (thus bypassing the web interface?)
bin/add_members is what you want here. Again, run
bin/add_members --help
for details. and you'll need to wrap this in a shell script to run the
command once for each list/input combination.
I have no idea what the scripting commands look like in the Mac
Terminal shell, but this kind of script is fairly simple.
For example, suppose you have the listnames in a file named
/path/to/listnames, and further suppose for simplicity that the list
names are countyX, countyY, etc. as in the file names above.
Then if this were a *nix sh compatible shell, the script might look like
for name in `cat /path/to/listnames`
do bin/config_list -i /path/to/config/input ${name}
bin/add_members -r /path/to/${name}.txt -w n -a n ${name}
done
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello and newbie question(s)
On 14/01/06, J. Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and running (though empty). Problem is, I'd like to set the same bounce processing variables for each list, without having to go into the web interface to each individually (a huge time killer). Is there anyway to do this kind of work globally via the command line? Here are the configurations I would like to try and do all at one time, and I was wondering not only how to type the command, but also how to enter the values (whether integer or Yes/No): I use a shell script with a config file to do things like this. The shell scripts (mm_cfg_change) is: #!/bin/bash # To use this script, change the variable in mm_cfg_change.dat to the # variable you want changes and the new value you want to assign it for i in $( /var/mailman/bin/list_lists -b); do /var/mailman/bin/config_list -i ./mm_cfg_change.dat $i done and the config file mm_cfg_change.dat hold a single line with the variable and value: max_days_to_hold=2 Then all you have to do is change the .dat file and not worry about messing up the shell script. To run the changes just use ./mm_cfg_change and away it goes. Also, I have yet to import email addresses into these 120 individual lists. I have, however, separated all the lists into individual text files (countyX.txt, countyY.txt, etc.) Is there a way (again) to do this import via the command line (thus bypassing the web interface?) I would imagine that this could be done in a similar fashion, but I've nver done this before so ican't offer any advice. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello Question about compile error under OS X10.4.2
According to Mark Sapiro, on 11-9-05 21:23 the word on the street was... See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.021.htp and in particular the linked post at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-July/045693.html Thanks, but I already found those articles and followed their instructions -- they work well until I run make install and encounter this error :( I think you can simply edit /usr/local/mailman/bin/paths.py That was the first thing I tried, without success ... And as I'm trying again now, I've just completed the make step, but can only find paths.py in /usr/local/mailman-2.1.6/misc/ (which is the dir I'm installing from, not to). *some waiting later* Strangely, but happily, it worked now. I have no idea what I did wrong first time round, but make install just exited without errors. Thanks :) Time to get on with the rest of the install :) -- Jakko Westerbeke [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/afv -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello Question about compile error under OS X10.4.2
Jakko Westerbeke wrote: But: I wouldn't have joined this list if I didn't have a problem with Mailman that I can't figure out the solution to ... I'm trying to set up Mailman 2.1.6 on a Mac running OS X 10.4.2, with Apple's default installation of Python 2.3.5. The system is pretty much clean out of the box (literally) and has Apple's developer tools installed in order to get gcc. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.021.htp and in particular the linked post at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-July/045693.html Anyway, the problem is that I get an error during the make install phase of installation, to be precise: Compiling /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/versions.py ... Traceback (most recent call last): File bin/update, line 46, in ? import paths File /usr/local/mailman/bin/paths.py, line 55, in ? import japanese ImportError: No module named japanese make: *** [update] Error 1 ./configure and make both work without errors, but things stop at this point during make install every time. I've traced this back to the installation of the Japanese codecs that are supplied with Mailman, because these refuse to install as well -- both when trying to make Mailman itself, and when trying to install the codec separately using the instructions provided with it. Is there a quick fix that I can't see? FWIW, I couldn't care less about Japanese codecs due to the fact that I don't speak Japanese and seriously don't expect to ever run a Japanese-language list, which makes it annoying that I can't find a way to simply skip this whole step ... I think you can simply edit /usr/local/mailman/bin/paths.py and comment out import japanese and also import korean import korean.aliases if they are a problem too. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Hello
I want with problem in mailman and Freebsb. When I send mail for list the file maillog register only one time, after don´t register more and not arrived e-mail for list. Thank´s -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello friends
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Euler Ricardo Rodrigues Ribeiro) scripsit/wrote: I have one problem. When I go create list show the message: Error: You are not authorized to create new mailing lists What happened? You did not type the list creation password correctly. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Hello friends
I have one problem. When I go create list show the message: Error: You are not authorized to create new mailing lists What happened? Euler Ricardo -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Hello
I have one problem When I go start mailmanctl show de message: Site list is missing: mailman What I make? Please help me -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello
:: When I go start mailmanctl show de message: :: Site list is missing: mailman :: What I make? Read up on the INSTALL file that comes with the distribution. It explains what the site list is and how to generate one. Cheers - Erick -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] hello, help with problem, please
Your cron job on burlador2 /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests produced the following output: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests, line 94, in ? main() File /usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests, line 86, in main mlist.send_digest_now() File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Digester.py, line 60, in send_digest_now ToDigest.send_digests(self, mboxfp) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 131, in send_digests send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 304, in send_i18n_digests msg = scrubber(mlist, msg) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py, line 311, in process t = t.encode(charset, 'replace') File /usr/local/lib/python2.2/encodings/__init__.py, line 51, in search_function mod = __import__(modname,globals(),locals(),'*') ValueError: Empty module name Empty module name?? i recently update mailman to 2.1.3 version. One of my mailman lists stops sending messages on friday,but all lists are working fine... thank for your help! -- Javier Romero Casado tel.913357274 Dep. Comunicaciones CEDEX -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] hello
Any equivalent of Mailman for Windows Servers? Yeah, I know but we don't have a linux server right now. Thanks L Marcus -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Hello
Hi, Can i use this mailman thing via windows XP? I tried to send an email to via MS Outlook but got a response saying my mail message was invalid... Would appreciate your assistance... Thanks, Geoff.
[Mailman-Users] Hello again
I was the person who asked about removing the password feature so that subscribers could just send an email to unsubscribe...without having to remember or search for the password. You had mentioned that this might be available some time in the future. If one were to help pay you to do this sooner...what kind of expense would be involved. I am a reseller of hosting service. My current hosting service provider uses Mailman...which is one of the best I've seen out there. I know they too would get more mileage out of this if it were tweaked. Or...is there any other way around the password situation in the current configuration. Thanks, D. Jeffrey Morrow JAKStar Enterprises, Inc. We build web sites so you don't have to! 100 Cavendish Drive - Cary, North Carolina 27513 Phone: 919-467-8410 Fax: (707) 924-0012 On the web at: www.jakstar.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] hello Mailmen and Mailwomen
On 04/02/02 14:56 +1300, brenda and fred wrote: I was just checking out Mailman to see if its suitable for our organisation where can I get a look at the administrative interface (whithout installing it myself)? I have a demo at http://yourdomain.cis.to/mailman/admin/demo (this is the standard admin interface with some minimal modifications to make it accessible without password and to prevent website visitors from messing things up.) Greetings, Norbert. -- A founder of the http://DotGNU.org project and Steering Committee member Norbert Bollow, Weidlistr.18, CH-8624 Gruet (near Zurich, Switzerland) Tel +41 1 972 20 59 Fax +41 1 972 20 69 http://thinkcoach.com Your own domain with all your Mailman lists: $15/month http://cisto.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] hello Mailmen and Mailwomen
I was just checking out Mailman to see if its suitable for our organisation where can I get a look at the administrative interface (whithout installing it myself)? does it support headers and footers? can it filter atachments if wanted? can anyone be bothered answering a lot of stupid questions about it? thanks fred
Re: [Mailman-Users] hello Mailmen and Mailwomen
On Sunday 03 February 2002 20:56, brenda and fred wrote: does it support headers and footers? Yes. can it filter atachments if wanted? No. That is a function of many other programs that work with your MTA (sendmail, qmail, exim, postfix,...). For a recommended list of such programs see the Users list FAQ -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Hello, and a couple of questions
Hi, I just installed Mailman on an elderly Pentium box (P200, 64 MB RAM, Red Hat 7.1) on which we plan to start running a few informational newsletters (~3x400 subs). Now, we're going to introduce Mailman to our potential listadmins, does anyone know if there is a/ a step-by-step instruction for setting up a list (not the manual, I've read it) b/ a Swedish translations of the docs. mvh/ Regards, Martin S. CTO, Forum Syd Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] hello all
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[Mailman-Users] hello all
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[Mailman-Users] hello
Hello all, I have recently got mailman up and running and am very impressed with the system. I have a query though, is it possible for people to subscribe, unsubscribe, change mode etc without ever using the mailing lists web interface. My problem is that I am running the list on a server on my home lan behind an adsl router. I am not quite yet ready to open up port 80 on my firewall to let the outside world in. So I want the users to manage their subscriptions through mail only. Anyone any thoughts, ideas, experiences? Also FYI, i have it running on a Slackware 7.1 box with Exim as the MTA. Mark Johnson Thunderous Solutions Ltd 31 Vale House Drive. SK13 1BT. England. Web: www.thunderoussolutions.com E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (+44)7971 226412 Internet communications are not secure and therefore the Barclays Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Barclays Group. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] hello
I have recently got mailman up and running and am very impressed with the system. I have a query though, is it possible for people to subscribe, unsubscribe, change mode etc without ever using the mailing lists web interface. My problem is that I am running the list on a server on my home lan behind an adsl router. I am not quite yet ready to open up port 80 on my firewall to let the outside world in. So I want the users to manage their subscriptions through mail only. Anyone any thoughts, ideas, experiences? Also FYI, i have it running on a Slackware 7.1 box with Exim as the MTA. Every list has a LISTNAME-request address that is specifically for the purpose of handling email requests. If you have a list called slackwarerocks then folks can subscribe to it by sending an email to slackwarerocks-request. The subject should be something like: subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Likewise they can unsubscribe, as well as a host of other options. Take a scan through the Docs for more details. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Hello~
Title: Hello~ i'm a korean. i installed mailman and tested successfully. all other's thing is normally operated, but the character in web is strange. i sent message in korean, and received it successfully, but in web, i can't read it. how can i solve this problem? should i patch about korean(hangul) character? thanks in advance. Bak, yuhyeon.
[Mailman-Users] Hello~
Title: Hello~ i'm a korean. i installed mailman and tested successfully. all other's thing is normally operated, but the character in web is strange. i sent message in korean, and received it successfully, but in web, i can't read it. how can i solve this problem? should i patch about korean(hangul) character? thanks in advance. Bak, yuhyeon.
